[20:40:33] Hey I_Jethrobot [20:40:50] Hey Soni_WP [20:41:03] Ah, this reminds me of our old meetings! : ) [20:41:06] I_Jethrobot, Whenever you type a message, can you please ping my name, it's slightly more convenient for me on IRC [20:41:15] Soni_WP - Of course. [20:41:26] Indeed. Slightly longer but fun meetings :) [20:41:56] We didnt usually chat around so much then though. Typing the important bits was hard as it is [20:42:22] Soni_WP - That's true. [20:42:30] Soni_WP - So, the main thing I wanted to do at this meeting was just to review the portions of the final report you've written up. [20:43:39] Right, that makes sense. [20:44:16] Soni_WP - So, for starters, could you point me to where you've been doing this writing? [20:44:53] First off, I just wanted to let you know that I ended up being moe busy than I thought I would be these past couple weeks. There were a load of academic assignments that propped up last minute because of which the reporting on Co-op is yet to get finishing. [20:45:19] Yeah that. Most of my work has been on my local computer, but I'll link you to the relevant places. [20:45:21] Hang on.... [20:45:45] I_Jethrobot, First, can you check out https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Learning_patterns/Planning_existing_structures_for_ease_of_future_access and see how it looks? [20:46:23] It might need some polishing and adding of clarifications, but I think this is a solid learning pattern of what I think the Co-op should implement [20:46:27] ^ I_Jethrobot [20:46:55] Soni_WP - I see. Well, we are getting down to our deadline for the report. I'll be working on it over the next several days, so you do have some more time. [20:48:14] Soni_WP - Our deadline is officially April 30th, but Siko told me to take a few more days to put it together if we need to. The grant reviewing committee is kind of backlogged at the moment, and would not be able to review our final report on time. [20:48:40] That said, let me take a look at the Learning Pattern. [20:48:55] Right. So we're not the only ones behind on our schedule. Heh. [20:51:25] Yes, I think this is an excellent takeaway from this project. [20:52:08] The Map we've put together so far is a good starting point for editors who wanted to understand how the Co-op is structured. [20:52:21] ^Soni_WP [20:52:37] Right. [20:52:48] Also, I have most of the information mentally sorted out so I guess a few solid hours of work should do it. In an ideal case, I'll have all of that done in a couple days, I expect. [20:53:17] In terms of Learning Pattern, do you think there could be anything added to the current learning pattern? [20:53:20] ^ I_Jethrobot [20:54:11] Soni_WP - Yeah, a few things. I think under "When to use", you' [20:54:18] oops. [20:55:09] ...you'll want to point editors to the Map we've built so far, and also point out that, in general, creating these devices is helpful when the structure of a space is not readily apparent. [20:55:43] For instance, when you have templates working within templates, or whenever you are using parameters. [20:55:47] ^Soni_WP [20:57:27] Under "things to consider," you'll want to note that any documentation or maps should use similar language. [20:58:06] (e.g.We shouldn't call learners "new editors" in once place and "new editors" in another. Terms should be consistent within the documentation.) [20:58:16] er... [20:58:33] We shouldn't call them "new editors" in one place and "learners" in another, is what I meant! [20:58:39] ^Soni_WP [20:59:10] (Ah, now I remember the difficulty of writing stuff on here...) : ) [20:59:26] Will do. Makes sense. [21:00:05] (Yep. I cant help but remember how slow this made our communication and discussions :) ) [21:00:14] So, the other things left to do are: [21:00:57] 1) Methods and activities (i.e. What have you been doing since the midpoint?), These can be simple 1-2 sentence bullet points. [21:02:05] and 2) Project Resources. The biggest thing here is providing short, basic descriptions for the pages on the Co-op map. [21:02:37] I've found pretty much all the images we need for the final report-- those are on the map now. [21:03:06] ^ Soni_WP [21:03:26] Does that sound doable over the next few days? [21:03:41] ^ Soni_WP [21:03:52] Alright. Here's what I have got so far on the methods and activities. [21:04:13] Its not complete, but just go through them and see if it needs any further expansion [21:04:40] (Hang on... Just shifting it to a Google Drive) [21:05:01] Sure thing. [21:05:35] https://docs.google.com/document/d/1weKyehJIlOcTgWWv6u5tHVdbHal5TQbyQKNDnMWSvS0/edit [21:05:37] There [21:06:15] Soni_WP - OK, just checking it out now... [21:10:28] Soni_WP - Looks pretty good! I'd consider adding a few links in here and there to relevant phabricator tasks and some of the templates so it's easier for readers to see your work, but this is a great start. [21:11:40] Cool. Is there anything else you'd suggest I should be adding? [21:14:42] Soni_WP - I think that about covers your work, so I think that should be sufficient with some additional links. [21:15:09] Alright cool. [21:15:17] Soni_WP - Did you have any other questions about the final report? [21:15:28] As for the Project resources, I just updated the Co-op map a couple hours ago [21:15:56] Oh good! [21:15:59] It's not all done but I wanted your opinion on what you think about it with respect to how the Map should be headed [21:16:06] Soni_WP - Let me check it out... [21:16:09] Can you check and letmeknow? [21:17:29] Soni_WP - Nice work. I think these descriptions work well. They're short and provide enough context for someone unfamiliar with the Co-op's structure. [21:19:09] Ah, great. Do you think there should be something else I should keep in mind wrt the Map while making it? [21:19:31] Also, in terms of project resources, are there any further tasks left for me to work on? [21:19:39] Soni_WP - So, if you want to continue to work on those descriptions and revise your methods and activities, I think that will be sufficient. ; ) [21:20:05] Oops. That was not supposed to be a wink. : P [21:21:08] Soni_WP - There are other things we might consider doing for the map later (e.g. like formal documentation for the templates), but for now, the descriptions will be most helpful for the final report. [21:23:28] Soni_WP - Actually, not so much the templates, but the module pages. That will require some discussion with J-mo at a later time. [21:23:48] Soni_WP - So, with that in mind, any other questions? [21:24:44] Right. Apart from the map, are there any more project resources to be developed. [21:26:12] Soni_WP - Everything else that's needed, like the participants lists and images, are all included in the Map. I'll be adding a brief section on templated messages soon as well-- I can take care of the work for that. [21:26:41] Alright, great. [21:28:00] Soni_WP - OK. So, can I expect to get an update from you before the 30th? [21:29:05] Sure thing. I'll definitely try to complete it ASAP, but it mostly should be done by the 30th [21:29:14] Is there anything else you wanted to discuss? [21:30:01] Soni_WP - No, that's all that we needed to cover. Thanks for your time today, Soni. : ) [21:30:31] Sure thing. Sorry for the mic issues, I realise I made you stay for 30 mins more than expected [21:31:38] Soni_WP - No problem. I had time to stick around, so no need to apologize. : ) [21:32:25] Soni_WP - Alrighty, I'm heading out. Take care, Soni! [21:33:25] Bye I_Jethrobot