[17:43:04] Sohail - Hey Sohail. [17:43:18] Hi Jethro [17:43:39] Would you prefer to do use IRC for our meeting today? [17:43:57] to use* [17:44:24] I'm not very familiar with IRC. But I could give it a try. Skype can be an alternative. [17:45:24] IRC is pretty straightforward, I don't think you'll run into too many problems. [17:45:46] no worries then :) [17:45:48] The plus side is that our communication won't get cut off. : ) [17:46:03] sounds good [17:46:17] So, how are you? I know it has been a little while since we met last. [17:48:12] I'm good. A little occupied with work. I have been in touch with Soujanyaa, btw. Great work on the design part.. [17:48:58] I have had a chance to look at the syntaxs of the teahouse pages.. [17:49:13] Thanks! Soujanyaa has been great to work with. [17:49:32] I see a lot of inline styling done on the markup [17:50:02] And yeah, sorry that my initial e-mail about all that was a bit on the long side. I just wanted to make sure you got to see a number of examples there. [17:50:53] I did go through all the examples. It was quite helpful, but a bit confusing too.. [17:51:20] Sure, that is expected. : ) [17:52:31] So, I'd like to know what questions you have about the examples. I might not be able to answer them myself, but I can make sure we get them addressed for next time we meet. [17:53:35] Or, if not questions, what you were confused about. [17:55:46] The markup basically. I see a lot of inline css written on the markup itself. Is there a way to use the stylesheet instead of writing inline styles? [17:58:04] Hm. [17:58:17] Well, I can't answer that myself, but I can point you to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Cascading_Style_Sheets [17:58:54] This will show you what style sheets come loaded already... [18:00:57] ...and it does appear that you can create a new style type as well. [18:02:19] Right. Wondering, where would the new stylesheet be uploaded to.. [18:04:16] No worries. will create a separate stylesheet for now. If we find a way to upload the stylesheet somewhere, well and good. Otherwise, I will convert the stylesheet into inline styling. [18:04:50] OK. I'll look into it-- I understand that doing everything inline is not ideal. [18:05:02] Sure [18:05:10] Oh, wait a second... [18:05:14] I think I found it. [18:06:16] This is a page on customizing CSS for userpages, but it applies for other pages outside the userspace as well. [18:06:23] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:User_style#General [18:06:44] Oh, great. Let me look into it.. [18:08:46] So it looks like you can create a stylesheet in your userspace, and use importStylesheet() to avoid a lot of inline styling. [18:09:02] Hmm, okay [18:10:37] So, in the email you mentioned that you would like me to start working on the Learner's profile page. [18:10:46] Right. [18:11:05] Before we get to that-- did you get a chance to make an account on Wikipedia? [18:11:16] Yes [18:11:28] My user name on wikipedia is Slalani [18:13:06] Excellent, thanks. [18:13:40] Yeah, I was interested to hear what progress you've made on starting a Learner profile template. [18:15:38] Actually, I didnot get a chance to start working on it. But I can have something to show you by Monday night. [18:16:43] Monday would be great. Would you like to meet around 11:00 PM IST on Monday? [18:19:25] I'm not sure if I'll be available for a call on Monday. Can I confirm on a short notice on my availability that day? I can email you the work, though, and you can give your feedback on it. [18:21:40] Definitely e-mail me the work, but I would like you to walk me through the template; if you don't think you can be available on Monday, could you make sure to explain your work in an e-mail? [18:23:00] Sure, will do that. [18:24:17] One other thing-- [18:24:47] Can you explain me how the basic profile will work. Is p2 on the pdf mockup provided by Soujanyaa for the learner profile? [18:25:01] On your English Wikipedia userpage, could you write a little about yourself and just note your affiliation with [[WP:Co-op]]? [18:25:34] Okay, will do that [18:26:57] Sohail - Page 2 is actually the profile creation screen, but not the profile itself. [18:27:31] That said, it does query the editor for a lot of the inputs needs for the profile. [18:28:21] Page 5 of the "layout2.pdf" document shows what the profile actually looks like. [18:29:27] In terms of how the basic profile will work, let me break that down for you: [18:32:19] So, learners coming into the Co-op will be using this gadget that will basically bring up a form filled with text fields to allow editors to create their profile. [18:33:12] The gadget will be similar to the "Ask A Question" button seen at the Teahouse: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions [18:33:48] And I have a few developers working on that one at the moment. [18:34:34] You will be creating the template that will be written to based on the learner's inputs. [18:35:49] So, as I wrote in the e-mail, the profile should contain a number of elements like their username, a description of why they need a mentor, an "about me" section, etc. [18:37:38] The most important thing though is that profiles contain a parameter for matching based on the categories we allow editors to choose for learning purposes (e.g. Writing, Best practices, etc.) [18:38:36] Later, when we create the template for mentor profiles, we have a program that will be matching editors based on this parameter. [18:40:18] Sohail - That's the basic idea behind the learner profile. Does that answer your question? [18:43:54] Okay. So, it will not be exactly like the p5 of the pdf, right? [18:44:13] For example, username is currently not displayed. But the full name is. [18:45:29] Sohail - Well, they would be one in the same in this case. We actually won't be asking for editors' full names, so it will display whatever the editor's username is. The examples here just happen to be full names. [18:45:32] And the orange text under the full name, it that a description of why the learner wants to join the co-op? [18:46:03] Okay [18:46:26] The orange text is a 90-character description of why the learner wants a mentor. They are prompted with "what would you like a mentor to help you with?" [18:46:55] Alright. Is it ok if I make a static html/css for the profile page, first? [18:47:08] Oh yeah, of course. [18:50:34] Okay. And once I have the static page ready, where do I go from there? Do I write the code in the sandbox? [18:51:11] Yeah, usually a subpage of your userpage is a good place to start. [18:51:34] So, you can create any subpage starting with User:Slalani/ [18:51:57] You can also create a subpage of the Co-op, if you want. [18:52:09] Which would be Wikipedia:Co-op/ [18:52:28] But I'd stick your userspace for now. [18:52:39] We can move stuff to the project page once it's more finalized. [18:53:11] Okay. My userspace is private, right? [18:53:58] Sohail - Definitely. You are free to test there as much as you need to. [18:54:09] Cool [18:54:46] Sorry if my questions seemed too lame. I have no prior experience working on the wikimedia platform.. [18:56:47] No need for apologies-- the interface has a bit of a learning curve. [18:56:59] Always feel free to ask me questions whenever you need. [18:57:40] Okay. Thanks a lot, Jethro :) [18:58:23] I guess I'll see you on Monday. [18:58:58] Yeah, I think that sounds good. E-mail me if you need to get in touch or have anything you want to clarify. [18:59:01] Oh, by the way... [18:59:13] I've been having trouble sending Soujanyaa her payment. [18:59:49] At one point, she had said that you might have been able to accept her payment and pass it on to her, though we've recently tried to use PayPal. [19:00:10] Okay, is Paypal not working for her? [19:00:16] Unfortunately, PayPal will not allow me to send funds to her (which is absurd)... [19:00:30] Wow. [19:00:57] Ok, let me speak with her and we'll come up with an alternate method of payment. [19:01:02] It seems like they won't allow me to send funds to *anyone* based in India, which makes me less inclined to use them as a service. : \ [19:01:06] Does Western Union work for you? [19:01:54] I'm not sure; I haven't used Western Union before. [19:02:32] It's probably doable, but just a matter of what information they need from me. [19:02:45] I have received funds using Western Union. And in my opinion, it is the best way to send money from the US to India. [19:03:23] They generally need basic info, name, phone number, address, etc. [19:03:46] You can also send funds through their website. [19:03:52] Ah, I see. [19:04:22] Once the transaction is done from your end, you're given a code called MCTN. [19:04:49] You will need to provide Soujanyaa with this MCTN, using which she can withdraw funds from here.. [19:05:06] Hm, OK. [19:05:20] Well, I've e-mailed Soujanyaa about this, but I will let her know about using Western Union as a possibility today. Thanks for letting me know. [19:05:59] No worries. I'll speak to her about it as well. [19:17:34] Alright, thanks Sohail. [19:17:51] Let me know when/if you are available for Monday. [19:18:16] I'll talk to you then. : )