[13:19:43] tos - Be sure to fill out your bio under the Participants section of the proposal! [13:19:56] On it already :) [13:20:04] (I'm heading off to work, you'll see me in a little more than an hour.) [13:20:09] tos - Thanks! [19:33:45] tos2 and halfak - If either of you can get a hold of Steven, please nudge him to put his bio up on the grant. I've e-mailed him directly today and left a message on his talk page, though. [19:34:12] Sure. I usually don't see Steven around though, so I don't have good contact with him. [19:34:32] OK. [19:34:39] I think I will be changing the status from "draft" to "proposed" by the end of today, regardless. [19:34:55] +1. Any outstanding issues you'd like to see addressed? [19:35:09] It would be nice to have them in an email. I'll try to pick a couple off the list. [19:35:16] Steven's online on gchat. [19:35:27] Pinged, and he said he's doing it today [19:35:38] Nice! [19:35:40] Oh, awesome. [19:35:41] Good work tos2 [19:35:47] Yeah, thanks. [19:40:24] halfak - I've been amassing a set of Qs for us to focus on... [19:41:45] I_Jethrobot, Can you put them up please? I hoped we'd have discussion on most unanswered Qs from the chat soon [19:42:12] halfak, tos2 -- Where do you think it'd be best to centralize the discussion about the other topics that have been coming up? My thought was either on a Google Doc or starting to set aside a space on en.wikipedia [19:43:04] Why not on the talk page of the proposal? Is this laundry that we don't want to show the committee? [19:43:10] I_Jethrobot, Unless there is a reason not to make it public, I think OnWiki is best; quite possibly on the grants talk page too [19:47:10] I_Jethrobot, I expect and hope others outside the proposal will be invited to give their opinion on some of the questions we hope to have answered too [19:48:12] tos2: on the other hand, we don't necessarily want to do out laundry on the front lawn -- if you know what I mean. [19:48:13] So, on the one hand, I think being transparent is a good policy and I agree with you, tos2, that we want outside feedback from folks on some approaches we are considering. [19:48:25] And on the other, what halfak just said. : ) [19:48:45] I'm hesitant to pull anything off-wiki, but there can be good reasons to do so. [19:49:13] I_Jethrobot, I agree. Maybe we could put them all on a GDoc first and see which of thse questions we want to keep onwiki [19:51:46] I will compile them this evening, probably between 1:00 - 3:00 UTC on 3/26. [19:51:56] (i.e. this evening for me) [19:52:07] tos2 ^ [19:52:48] Alright. That means I'll only check them out a few hours later after you put them up, I_Jethrobot. Will do and let you know [19:54:02] tos2 - OK, it's alright if you want to wait until the next day. We have some time. [19:54:51] It's mostly Timezone issues though [19:55:17] halfak & tos2 - Not sure if Steve let you know, but his daughter was in the hospital recently, hence he's had more important priorities. Thankfully, he said it wasn't an emergency. [19:57:30] He is driving right now and can do his bio in a few hours, he said. [19:57:45] Oh. Good that it's nothing serious [19:57:45] But I imagine he'll be somewhat occupied for the time being. [19:58:48] After his bio is in, I'll transition the proposal from "draft" to "proposed," which isn't anything official per se, but something we'd need to do by the 31st. [19:58:56] (i.e. we can still edit it and make changes) [19:59:45] But I reviewed the proposal and talked it over some with Jake. I think it is in good shape, and does a good job at reflecting what this team has to offer. [20:00:33] Hang on, be right back... [20:20:39] tos2, halfak - So right, I'll be getting the various questions together soon. I think many of them are definitely appropriate for the grant page (e.g. how many mentors and mentees do we want and how many can we handle?) [20:23:13] We can also get input from others on organizing the skills we can offer. [20:24:20] Re. how many users will we measure per experimental condition -- there's some nuance here. [20:24:36] When I say that I need at least 300 per condition, that doesn't mean that we need to mentor 300 newcomers. [20:24:46] It means we need to invite at least 300 newcomers. [20:24:58] Ah, I see. [20:26:34] halfak - At some point, I'm interested in hearing about what kinds of analyses you have planned. [20:28:27] halfak - But unfortunately, I have to get back to work. Guh. [20:29:38] You'll have a GDoc invite in several hours. Talk to you soon! [20:32:01] hasta