[07:29:42] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS5) 10Henning Snater: Upgraded ByPropertyIdArray [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/91179 
[08:45:24] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Henning Snater: Updating reference count when adding/removing references [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93936 
[09:57:57] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 Lydia_WMDE: http://www.georgbraeu.de/site/braustuben_salon_gambrinus/2687/salon_gambrinus.aspx
[10:52:29] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 04-1] "Catchable fatal error: Argument 1 passed to ValueFormatters\QuantityFormatter::__construct() must be an instance of ValueFormatters\Decima" [extensions/DataValues] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93694 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[11:16:33] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Addshore: Add validation for wbsetreference.... [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93944 
[11:16:48] <addshore>	 aude ^^^^^^
[11:16:55] <aude>	 whaaaa
[11:17:28] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Henning Snater: Fix builder for QuantityFormatter (constructor changed) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93697 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[11:19:40] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Fix builder for QuantityFormatter (constructor changed) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93697 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[11:25:43] <GerardM>	 Do we know how many Wikidata items do NOT have an English language link ?
[11:26:13] <GerardM>	 I need this for Jared Zimmerman
[11:26:22] <GerardM>	 (a WMF guy)
[11:26:34] * aude  doesn't know

[11:42:59] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS11) 10Addshore: Implement List Serializer and Unserializer [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92873 
[11:48:24] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS6) 10Addshore: Add byPropertyListSerialization Options [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92916 
[11:49:24] <josu>	 is wikidata.org down? or is it my internet connection
[11:50:00] <addshore>	 http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/wikidata.org
[11:50:01] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Henning Snater: [C: 04-1] "Entering "3±-0.2µ" results in an error response (code "invalid-snak-value"). As to WikibaseDataTypeBuilders.php, line 242ff, I guess this " [extensions/DataValues] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/89849 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[11:50:19] <addshore>	 although I dont actually appear to be able to load it right now :P
[11:52:33] <GerardM>	 Magnus informed me that 8,724,628 of 14,042,535 items have no enwiki link that is about 62%
[12:06:52] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: "Never min. Ingnore my comment. Didn't checkout the dependency.." [extensions/DataValues] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93694 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[12:07:12] <yurik>	 DanielK_WMDE: hi, in the content model, what's the right place to set html page title?
[12:10:08] <addshore>	 josu: should be back for you now
[12:10:28] <josu>	 addshore: yes it works now :)
[12:26:11] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Aude: (bug 49434) Support diff=0 in Wikibase [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92648 
[12:45:42] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Aude: (bug 49434) Support diff=0 in Wikibase [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92648 
[13:04:20] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Addshore: Add validation for wbsetreference.... [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93944 
[13:14:28] <GerardM>	 http://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/project_stats.php the number of links per language
[13:14:37] <GerardM>	 Thank you Magnus
[13:27:38] <gangleri_back>	 hi! can anybody ansver to https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat#instance_of_for_mythological_figure_pages ?
[13:56:00] <gangleri_back>	 Hi to admins: please take a look at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Ayack#MediaWiki_talk:Gadget-AuthorityControl.js.23NLR can this be solved today?
[13:57:24] <inductiveload>	 hello! if I add an ID (for example VIAF) by looking it up manually in the database, what, if anything, do I put for the source?
[14:01:10] <inductiveload>	 "imported from" -> "VIAF"?
[14:19:35] <gangleri_back>	 inductivrload there are boots who will add source Englich, Wikipedia, German Wikipedia etc.
[14:19:42] <gangleri_back>	 **bots**
[14:25:55] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Lydia_WMDE: please poke me if I should rejoin the meeting
[14:33:43] <GerardM>	 inductiveload you do not need to add a source
[14:33:47] <GerardM>	 tou may
[14:39:10] <inductiveload>	 ok, thanks :-)
[14:47:09] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Aude: Store serialized entity in parser output (DRAFT) [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/89792 
[14:47:34] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS5) 10Aude: Store serialized entity in parser output [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/89792 
[14:48:25] <inductiveload>	 why do some IDs go in a "Catalog ID" with a qualifier and some have their own properties? what determines that?
[14:50:58] <GerardM>	 inductiveload: I do not understand your question
[14:52:53] <inductiveload>	 eg [[Q31264]]
[14:52:57] <AsimovBot>	 10[1] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q31264
[14:53:34] <inductiveload>	 what determines that, for example, NGC catalog codes aren't a separate property
[15:06:02] <inductiveload>	 or maybe abetter example: Q2469 has a lot of "catalog code" (P528), but also has a GND ID (P227) 
[15:08:35] <inductiveload>	 where is the line drawn between "add as a P528" and "make a specific property for this number"
[15:16:44] <aude>	 addshore: can you give me a link to affected item for references?
[15:16:52] <aude>	 so i can look at the json
[15:21:46] <aude>	 addshore: ^
[15:24:38] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 04-1] "please add a regression test" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93944 (owner: 10Addshore)
[15:34:12] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 hoo: hi! mein kalender sagt, wir haben jetzt 'nen meeting :) johl will auch dabei sein, daher lass uns nach #wikimedia-wikidata-foo gehen
[15:34:35] <hoo>	 ok
[15:35:04] <aude>	 deutsche sprachen :)
[15:36:14] <hoo>	 * deutsche Sprache (=> German language)
[15:36:16] <hoo>	 :D
[15:37:21] <aude>	 heh
[15:37:45] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 hoo, aude: note the inverted capitalization!
[15:38:02] * aude  doesn't use caps

[15:38:14] <aude>	 bad german!
[15:44:21] <Tobi_WMDE>	 addshore: did you enter a bug for those "vanishing" claims already?
[15:44:31] <addshore>	 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56673
[15:44:42] <Tobi_WMDE>	 addshore: thx!
[15:46:55] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Make entity change hooks usable by Wikibase Query [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93959 
[15:53:05] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Henning Snater: Removed .toJSON() usage in wikibase.SnakList.getPropertyOrder [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93960 
[15:55:17] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Addshore: [C: 032] Removed .toJSON() usage in wikibase.SnakList.getPropertyOrder [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93960 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[16:15:21] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 04-1] "(3 comments)" [extensions/DataValues] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/89849 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[16:15:24] <aude>	 DanielK_WMDE_: ^
[16:17:49] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 aude: thanks
[16:18:29] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Henning Snater: [C: 04-1] "The boundaries (±x) should probably be displayed whenever they exist while they should not be displayed when the amount specifically has b" [extensions/DataValues] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93694 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[16:20:01] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Notify the SQLStore of Entity changes [extensions/WikibaseQuery] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93966 
[16:20:10] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: "same thing as Henning describes happens with input such as "2162 °"" [extensions/DataValues] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/89849 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[16:20:57] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Notify the SQLStore of Entity changes [extensions/WikibaseQuery] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93966 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[16:21:31] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: "145±5 becomes +145" [extensions/DataValues] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/89849 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[16:22:52] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: "some of these edge cases should be fixed, although not sure i consider them a blocker as long as they are fixed before we deploy this to w" [extensions/DataValues] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/89849 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[16:23:08] <aude>	 more comments ^
[16:23:11] <aude>	 DanielK_WMDE_: 
[16:24:36] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: "(2 comments)" [extensions/DataValues] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/89849 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[16:33:44] <JeroenDeDauw>	 DanielK_WMDE_: Lydia_WMDE: http://www.lieferando.de/lieferservice-world-of-pizza-berlin#!cart
[16:35:58] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Lydia_WMDE: FOOOOOOD!
[16:36:03] <Lydia_WMDE>	 JeroenDeDauw: looking
[16:36:32] <Lydia_WMDE>	 JeroenDeDauw: hawaii chicken burger please
[16:38:11] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Lydia_WMDE: with?
[16:38:21] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Lydia_WMDE: anything on it?>
[16:39:09] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 JeroenDeDauw: ok, i'm goping for the boring option today: Pizza Hawaii
[16:43:42] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: "(1 comment)" [extensions/DataValues] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/89849 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[16:45:30] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: "if you make a new bug for values like "20°" and have Tobi_WMDE and Lydia_WMDE put it in the sprint, (and fix typo) then I remove my -1" [extensions/DataValues] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/89849 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[16:56:29] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Lydia_WMDE: "the video player with the cone" :D explaining things to non-technical people is fun
[16:56:39] <Lydia_WMDE>	 JeroenDeDauw: ;-)
[16:56:49] <Lydia_WMDE>	 JeroenDeDauw: that's what they always say!
[16:57:55] <aude>	 DanielK_WMDE_: no fractions? :)
[17:00:55] <dennyvrandecic>	 aint it office hour?
[17:02:55] <aude>	 is that tomorrow?
[17:03:30] <dennyvrandecic>	 nah
[17:03:32] <dennyvrandecic>	 next week
[17:03:35] <dennyvrandecic>	 just found it
[17:03:37] <aude>	 oh
[17:03:37] <dennyvrandecic>	 sorry
[17:03:38] <aude>	 ok
[17:07:13] <lazowik>	 hey
[17:07:33] <lazowik>	 addshore: JeroenDeDauw: badge duplicates should probably be removed in datamodel?
[17:10:36] <aude>	 https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?search=athens&button=&title=Special%3ASearch&srbackend=CirrusSearch
[17:14:27] <JoeGermuska>	 hey, I'm a total wikidata noob wondering if there's a smart way to align work we're doing on my project with stuff in WD. anyone have a few minutes to talk through it a bit?
[17:16:03] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 JoeGermuska: hi! maybe just describe a bit what you are trying to do, then people can offer their thoughts.
[17:16:22] <JoeGermuska>	 sure. this is an example of a project page
[17:16:23] <JoeGermuska>	 http://censusreporter.org/profiles/16000US1714000/
[17:16:35] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Daniel Kinzler: Localize wikibase-validator-unknown-unit message. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93974 
[17:16:52] * JoeGermuska  presents data about US Census places in an easy to read format. It might be helpful if we linked the pages to relevant Wikipedia pages.

[17:17:19] <JoeGermuska>	 That would involve figuring out a mapping between the "geoids" (e.g. 16000US1714000) and the appropriate Wikipedia page (in this case, Chicago)
[17:17:33] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 JoeGermuska: that would be quite cool. Ideally, you would store the wikidata ID for each city in your database.
[17:17:36] <JoeGermuska>	 so if my hunch about Wikidata is right, it might be good to add a property
[17:17:44] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 then you can easily pull in information from wikidata.
[17:17:54] <JoeGermuska>	 right, we need to develop a xref between the geoids and the wikidata ids
[17:18:03] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] Fix {{#property:}} calls for missing data on wikis with LanguageConverter [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/90636 (owner: 10Liangent)
[17:18:19] <JoeGermuska>	 once we develop the xref, should that become wikidata properties?
[17:18:54] <JoeGermuska>	 so that people could know right away that 16000US1714000 is https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1297
[17:19:21] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 JoeGermuska: you can propose that, wikidata is unlikely to add a property for every site that has some kind of identifier for things also on wikidata.
[17:19:47] <JoeGermuska>	 i guess that makes sense. but this isn't just our property. it's the standard US Census identifier for the geography
[17:19:50] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 JoeGermuska: there may be a generic "also described by" property that takes a URL (there was discussion about this, but I don't know the outcome)
[17:19:57] <JoeGermuska>	 it seems to me in the same vein as the VIAF stuff, but a different authority
[17:20:17] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 oh, the standard cencus identifier definitly makes sense. changes are it's already there.
[17:20:29] <JoeGermuska>	 i don't see it on e.g. https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1297 (Chicago)
[17:20:34] <JoeGermuska>	 but maybe i don't know what i'm looking for
[17:20:41] * DanielK_WMDE_  isn't active on wikidata - just working on the software :)

[17:20:59] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 JoeGermuska: it'S quite possibel that the property exists but isn't widely used.
[17:21:30] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 JoeGermuska: I don't see it on https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:List_of_properties/Geographical_feature
[17:21:48] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 you can propose it on https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Place
[17:21:59] <JoeGermuska>	 it's kind of like GNIS which is on there. I believe the Census is gradually shifting to GNIS ids but it is going to be slow
[17:22:07] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] Localize wikibase-validator-unknown-unit message. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93974 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[17:22:25] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 if you'd be willing to do some matching work based on labels and/or wikipedia links, and add the ids based on that, that would probably be welcome
[17:22:37] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 be sure to propose and discuss it first, though
[17:22:55] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 aude: what do you think?
[17:23:05] <JoeGermuska>	 that's what I'm thinking. if we provide this service, we'll do that matching. would love to share the results so no one has to do it again.
[17:23:42] <aude>	 huh?
[17:23:45] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 so, propose a property, post on the project chat, write to the mailing list... and see what happens :)
[17:24:00] <aude>	 i would ask on project chat
[17:24:27] <JoeGermuska>	 propose the property at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Place and then post on project chat to draw people's attention?
[17:24:30] <aude>	 i think fips codes are alreadya approved as properties
[17:24:33] <JoeGermuska>	 or post on the chat first?
[17:24:35] <aude>	 not sure if we have all yet
[17:24:36] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Fix {{#property:}} calls for missing data on wikis with LanguageConverter [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/90636 (owner: 10Liangent)
[17:24:52] <JoeGermuska>	 i searched for FIPS and didn't find it, but still learning to read wikidata pages
[17:25:01] <aude>	 they might be in discussion then
[17:25:10] <aude>	 proposed and not approved yet
[17:25:45] <JoeGermuska>	 like this FIPS county code  https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5425849
[17:25:52] <JoeGermuska>	 is there a way to look up what has that property?
[17:26:06] <aude>	 not yet within wikidata itself
[17:26:24] <aude>	 there are some experimental query tools
[17:26:25] <aude>	 e.g. http://208.80.153.172/wdq/
[17:26:30] <aude>	 that might allow that
[17:26:57] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Localize wikibase-validator-unknown-unit message. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93974 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[17:26:59] <JoeGermuska>	 ok. so i guess my main question is to continue this discussion with the wider community: post a new topic to Project chat first? or start a proposal so as to focus the chat and then mention it on?
[17:27:03] <aude>	 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/13#FIPS_for_US_counties_.28FIPS_6-4.29
[17:27:16] <JoeGermuska>	 oh that looks good
[17:27:17] <JoeGermuska>	 reading
[17:27:22] <aude>	 yeah and if we are missing any FIPS code properties, then i think the community is open to them
[17:27:28] <aude>	 but needs to be proposed/discussed
[17:28:25] <JoeGermuska>	 although for my case, it would maybe be nice to not chop up the ids by place type (state, county, etc). 
[17:28:35] <aude>	 true
[17:28:39] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 JoeGermuska: lookup by property value will be ready "really soon now"
[17:28:54] <JoeGermuska>	 where should i watch to learn when it is? i'm so new to wikidata
[17:28:54] <aude>	 within wikidata itself
[17:28:59] <JoeGermuska>	 in the web UI?
[17:29:03] <aude>	 yeah
[17:29:09] <JoeGermuska>	 cool.
[17:29:12] <aude>	 there are mailing lists and project chat
[17:29:27] <aude>	 https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
[17:29:39] <aude>	 and if you want more technical stuff
[17:29:40] <aude>	 https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-tech
[17:30:02] <aude>	 also twitter.... https://twitter.com/wikidata
[17:30:12] <aude>	 i expect big features like that will be announced there
[17:31:43] <JoeGermuska>	 thanks for the links and advice
[17:31:47] <aude>	 sure
[17:38:23] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 031] Correct and simplify direction setting for propertyedittool [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93512 (owner: 10Amire80)
[17:39:37] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 031] Set explicit direction for wb-entity-undefinedinfo [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93518 (owner: 10Amire80)
[17:42:23] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Daniel Kinzler: Implementing proper formatting for quantity values. [extensions/DataValues] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93694 
[17:43:32] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Implementing proper formatting for quantity values. [extensions/DataValues] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93694 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[17:48:59] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS4) 10Daniel Kinzler: Implementing proper formatting for quantity values. [extensions/DataValues] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93694 
[17:52:28] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: "* Fixed the error message localization in If198735ae2de7" [extensions/DataValues] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/89849 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[17:53:34] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 aude: --^
[17:54:13] <aude>	 k
[17:54:19] * aude  looking at json dumps

[17:54:54] <aude>	 i'd also like https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/93518/ and https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/93512/ merged, but probably requires henning to review
[17:57:28] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS8) 10Daniel Kinzler: Introducing QuantityParser and DecimalParser [extensions/DataValues] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/89849 
[18:04:54] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS5) 10Aude: Make dumpJson.php robust against failures. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92644 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[18:05:57] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] "does the right thing, allows the dump script to continue when an entity is deleted while the script is running and thus is not found." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92644 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[18:10:57] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Make dumpJson.php robust against failures. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92644 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[18:18:11] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Siebrand: "(1 comment)" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93974 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[18:20:16] <aude>	 DanielK_WMDE_: is there a bug for the floating point issue?
[18:21:35] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: "(1 comment)" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93974 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[18:24:22] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Aude: add qqq message for wikibase-validator-unknown-unit [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93982 
[18:25:44] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Siebrand: [C: 032] add qqq message for wikibase-validator-unknown-unit [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93982 (owner: 10Aude)
[18:29:45] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: add qqq message for wikibase-validator-unknown-unit [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93982 (owner: 10Aude)
[18:54:51] <multichill>	 DanielK_WMDE_: Thanks for you reply :-)
[18:55:24] <multichill>	 We seem to engaged in a rather slow irc conversation ;-)
[18:55:57] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 multichill: hehe
[18:56:24] <multichill>	 Just implement the damn tracking and purging to get this over with 
[18:57:17] <multichill>	 DanielK_WMDE_: Should be easier than messing up the data model :P
[18:58:23] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 multichill: sure, right after implementing quantities, units, and queries :)
[18:58:43] <multichill>	 You will be home by Christmas!
[18:58:52] <aude>	 hi multichill 
[18:59:12] * DanielK_WMDE_  sttles in

[18:59:12] <aude>	 my bot is on vacation but hopefully back soon :)
[18:59:24] <multichill>	 Hi aude, did you see my note about the French railway stations and coordinates?
[18:59:35] <aude>	 not about railway stations
[19:00:11] <multichill>	 I'm cleaning out https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Database_reports/Constraint_violations/P197 and I noticed a lot of French railway stations that do have coordinates on the French Wikipedia, but not on Wikidata
[19:00:24] <aude>	 oh
[19:00:33] <aude>	 i need to work on swedish wikipedia next
[19:00:40] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS5) 10Daniel Kinzler: Implementing proper formatting for quantity values. [extensions/DataValues] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93694 
[19:00:56] <multichill>	 Go throught the 1M+ bot articles? :P
[19:00:57] <aude>	 DanielK_WMDE_: "if you make a new bug for values like "20°" and have Tobi_WMDE and Lydia_WMDE put it in the sprint, (and fix typo) then  I remove my -1"
[19:01:08] <aude>	 20 degrees is okay, i guess
[19:01:13] <aude>	 but for floating points, make a bug
[19:02:20] <aude>	 multichill: i might not do lakes, or maybe :)
[19:02:37] <aude>	 i'll do non-lakes first
[19:03:15] * aude  is just now adjusting to berlin timezone, even after a week

[19:06:28] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 aude: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56682
[19:06:36] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 Lydia_WMDE: can we have this on the board? ---^
[19:06:36] <aude>	 k
[19:06:51] <aude>	 Lydia_WMDE: that is required to be on the board for me to +2 the quantity parser
[19:58:20] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 031] "Now that we have bug 56686 regarding floating point issue and it's in the sprint, I am okay with this patch going in." [extensions/DataValues] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/89849 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[20:36:39] <Sven_Manguard>	 legoktm: you around?
[20:46:14] <hoo>	 legoktm: Do you want to give me "Template editor" on enwiki also? Stupid MediaWiki, I can edit edit=sysop pages, but not these pages -.-
[21:12:13] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Addshore: Cleanup the Api Module [extensions/WikibaseQuery] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/94048 
[21:12:32] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Addshore: Add 'wikibasewuery' permission and checks [extensions/WikibaseQuery] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/94049 
[21:13:51] <legoktm>	 hoo|away: done
[21:13:57] <legoktm>	 Sven_Manguard: yes, hello
[21:14:14] <Sven_Manguard>	 Hey. You already answered my question in -tech :D
[21:15:11] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Addshore: Add api param descriptions where missing [extensions/WikibaseQuery] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/94050 
[21:15:22] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Cleanup the Api Module [extensions/WikibaseQuery] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/94048 (owner: 10Addshore)
[21:16:02] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Add 'wikibasewuery' permission and checks [extensions/WikibaseQuery] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/94049 (owner: 10Addshore)
[21:16:08] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: "(2 comments)" [extensions/WikibaseQuery] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/94049 (owner: 10Addshore)
[21:16:43] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: "(1 comment)" [extensions/WikibaseQuery] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/94049 (owner: 10Addshore)
[21:17:20] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Add api param descriptions where missing [extensions/WikibaseQuery] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/94050 (owner: 10Addshore)
[21:17:42] <addshore>	 :D
[21:18:09] <Sven_Manguard>	 You are now ignoring @wikimedia/bot/grrrit-wm.
[21:19:42] <hoo>	 thanks, legoktm
[21:20:36] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Addshore: Add 'wikibase-query-run' permission and checks [extensions/WikibaseQuery] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/94049 
[21:20:42] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Add 'wikibase-query-run' permission and checks [extensions/WikibaseQuery] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/94049 (owner: 10Addshore)
[21:21:02] <aude>	 :)
[21:21:19] <addshore>	 [=
[21:30:37] <legoktm>	 hoo: [01:30:22 PM] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS1) Legoktm: Add 'templateeditor' to $wgAvailableRights [operations/mediawiki-config] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/94051
[21:31:08] <hoo>	 legoktm: ptwiki has an own group with another name, but the same purpose
[21:31:11] <hoo>	 Yes, that sucks
[21:31:22] <legoktm>	 heh
[21:33:04] <hoo>	 Editar páginas protegidas a nível de autorrevisor (autoreviewer)
[21:33:05] <hoo>	 :/
[21:34:29] <hoo>	 legoktm: Do you think we should add that as well?
[21:35:10] <legoktm>	 coren already merged it :P
[21:36:14] <hoo>	 that's probably the first time ever something within -config is merged fast :D
[21:36:28] <hoo>	 Do you have +2 there?
[21:36:57] <legoktm>	 No, I don't have deployment/cluster access.
[21:38:31] <hoo>	 We need more Reed.y :D $( Reed.y ).clone().attachTo( 'gerrit' );
[21:39:46] <legoktm>	 hahaa
[21:40:32] <siebrand>	 Mediawiki RFC review meeting in 20 minutes in #wikimedia-meetbot. Details at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Architecture_meetings/RFC_review_2013-11-06. Previous meeting notes at http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/RFC%20review
[21:44:17] <hoo>	 legoktm: Recently you're taking over much of the things I planned on doing some time (admin tools, ...). Great thing :)
[21:44:54] <legoktm>	 I'm just trying to help out :D
[21:45:01] <legoktm>	 I was thinking about global CU the other day
[21:45:35] <legoktm>	 what if we just had a JS script that made an API request on every wiki and then neatly formatted the results?
[21:45:38] <hoo>	 legoktm: mh, I think the stewards are doing ok since they can checkuser on loginwiki
[21:45:47] <multichill>	 hi legoktm
[21:45:52] <legoktm>	 hi multichill 
[21:46:15] <hoo>	 legoktm: If you want to do another great thing which I actually planned on doing: Make global abusefilters disableable
[21:46:35] <hoo>	 Stewards would love you for taht
[21:47:08] <legoktm>	 what's wrong with the wiki id method? wikid != "enwiki" & [stuff...]
[21:47:21] <hoo>	 legoktm: It's slow and bad and slow and especially bad
[21:47:46] <hoo>	 Wikisysops want to be able to do that on their own without having to ask a steward
[21:48:19] <hoo>	 Furthermore blacklisting let's say 10 wikis will already slow down the parser quite a lot (as it's a big slow legacy thing)
[21:48:22] <legoktm>	 hm right. would you do this entirely in AF, or use wikisets?
[21:48:52] <hoo>	 legoktm: I think we decided to do that fully in AF
[21:49:10] <hoo>	 create a new local DB table for this kind of things so that this is managed on a per wiki level
[21:49:29] <hoo>	 * can be
[21:50:32] <legoktm>	 is there a bug for this somewhere?
[21:51:26] * legoktm  looks

[21:51:29] <hoo>	 yes, https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43761
[21:52:04] <legoktm>	 just found it :D
[21:52:51] <legoktm>	 ok, i'll take a stab at it when i get the chance
[21:53:20] <hoo>	 I hope that I find the time to review all that some time soon :P
[21:54:00] <legoktm>	 I'm hoping to get global js/css done before the end of the month
[21:54:33] <hoo>	 We originally wanted to have that in a separate extension as it's mostly not really CA related, but I guess having it in CA is ok for now
[21:54:39] <hoo>	 Didn't yet look at the code, though
[21:55:23] <legoktm>	 the only reason it needs CA is to establish that user a on xxwiki == a on yywiki
[21:55:23] <legoktm>	 I think that should be done via hook.
[21:55:46] <lazowik>	 addshore: addshore!
[21:56:06] <hoo>	 Yes, that functionality would also be useful for eg. wikis with a shared user table, that's why I thought it would be best to have it in an own extension
[22:14:04] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [V: 032] Notify the SQLStore of Entity changes [extensions/WikibaseQuery] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93966 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[23:08:07] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 Lydia_WMDE: we should start using meetbot. also usful for irl meetings.
[23:08:24] <Lydia_WMDE>	 DanielK_WMDE_: hehe really?
[23:08:25] <Lydia_WMDE>	 ok
[23:08:49] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 here's the minutes of the rfc meeting: http://integration-meetbot.instance-proxy.wmflabs.org/wikimedia-meetbot/2013/wikimedia-meetbot.2013-11-06-22.03.html
[23:09:08] <Lydia_WMDE>	 not bad
[23:09:13] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 we have been using it sparingly, it has some more nice features
[23:09:38] <Lydia_WMDE>	 ok let's talk about that tomorrow
[23:09:41] <Lydia_WMDE>	 it does look good
[23:10:18] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 sure. have a good night!
[23:11:06] <Lydia_WMDE>	 not yet -.-
[23:11:09] <Lydia_WMDE>	 still working on slides
[23:11:19] <aude>	 sleep!
[23:11:39] <Lydia_WMDE>	 but but but
[23:11:41] <Lydia_WMDE>	 slides!
[23:11:42] <Lydia_WMDE>	 :P
[23:11:52] <Lydia_WMDE>	 nah i really need to finish them now
[23:11:58] <Lydia_WMDE>	 will not get to it tomorrow during the day
[23:12:04] <aude>	 grrrrr
[23:12:13] <Lydia_WMDE>	 indeed
[23:12:17] <Lydia_WMDE>	 but not much left thankfully
[23:12:19] <aude>	 who needs slides? :)
[23:12:37] <Lydia_WMDE>	 <-
[23:12:41] <Lydia_WMDE>	 also Eloquence :P
[23:12:46] <aude>	 heh
[23:12:53] <aude>	 alright won't bother you
[23:12:57] <Lydia_WMDE>	 ;-)
[23:15:54] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 Lydia_WMDE: my slides for my talk at the SemanticmediaWeb hingy: http://brightbyte.de/repos/papers/2013//Wikidata-SemMediaWeb-2013.pdf?raw=1
[23:16:08] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 :D
[23:16:23] <Lydia_WMDE>	 :P
[23:16:29] <Lydia_WMDE>	 nice
[23:16:38] * aude  gives Lydia_WMDE kittens for the slides :)

[23:16:45] <Lydia_WMDE>	 haha
[23:16:51] <Lydia_WMDE>	 no kittens this time i fear
[23:16:57] <Lydia_WMDE>	 but cupcakes
[23:17:10] <aude>	 omnomnomnom
[23:23:23] <aude>	 ooooh, https://gdash.wikimedia.org/dashboards/apimethods/
[23:23:39] <aude>	 wbsearchentities is the most used api module and wbcreateclaim is #5
[23:24:23] <aude>	 top 10
[23:25:30] <aude>	 oh, it's request time :/
[23:29:23] <Lydia_WMDE>	 -.-
[23:29:52] <aude>	 not in this sprint, but improving request tiem and performance of search entities should be priority in backlog
[23:30:00] <aude>	 relates to indexing of wb_terms
[23:30:09] <aude>	 which we are aware of
[23:30:09] <Sven_Manguard>	 DanielK_WMDE_: umm... the diagram you're using about the layout is wrong, you know
[23:31:29] <Sven_Manguard>	 DanielK_WMDE_: I mean https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikidata_statement.svg (the one you're using, but translated) is close enough, but the layout is wrong for qualifiers