[04:28:47] <Lirodon>	 What would be the best property to use to say that something is an episode of a certain series?
[04:30:25] <Lirodon>	 Would it be a subclass?
[04:32:04] <Lirodon>	 or part of
[04:33:04] <HSJ>	 Lirodon: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P179
[08:29:28] <GerardM>	 http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.nl/2013/05/wmhack-dates-for-wikidata.html
[08:31:11] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Added EntityRemover" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/65493
[08:31:11] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Work on EntityRemover [DO NOT SUBMIT]" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/65494
[08:31:25] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Removed unused import in EntityInserter" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/65495
[08:31:26] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Fixed some docs in EntityInserter" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/65496
[08:31:26] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Remove EntityTable from EntityInserter" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/65497
[08:34:34] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Removed unused import in EntityInserterTest" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/65498
[08:43:41] <gerrit-wm>	 Change abandoned: Jeroen De Dauw; "Rename is actually not nice" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/64948
[08:47:36] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "getInternalIdForEntity now takes an EntityId rather then its components" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/65536
[08:48:14] <gerrit-wm>	 Change abandoned: Jeroen De Dauw; "Abandoning out of pure rage and lack of orange juice" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/64949
[08:55:16] <gerrit-wm>	 Change abandoned: Jeroen De Dauw; "Abandon for great justice!" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/65494
[08:57:04] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Added preliminary diff merger functionality" [mediawiki/extensions/Diff] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/63690
[08:57:07] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Added ArrayComparer interface" [mediawiki/extensions/Diff] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/63713
[08:58:20] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Remove obsolete test registration list" [mediawiki/extensions/Diff] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/65538
[09:14:37] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Hoo man; "Remove useless information from the client SiteModule" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/65542
[09:15:40] <hoo>	 aude: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/65542/1
[09:39:29] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Added SnakRemover" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/65552
[09:39:29] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Implemented ValueSnakStore->removeSnaksOfSubject" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/65553
[09:40:21] <ebraminio>	 Is wbeditentity able to edit aliases?
[09:51:40] <DanielK_WMDE__>	 any admin around?
[09:52:09] <DanielK_WMDE__>	 we'd need some abuse filter rules to be disabled for a workshop at the hackathon 
[09:52:38] <DanielK_WMDE__>	 a bunch of people playing with pywikipediabot from the same IP
[09:53:06] <aude>	 hoo1: ^
[09:53:41] <DanielK_WMDE__>	 getting this (i'm assuming it's an abuse filter rule):
[09:53:42] <Reedy>	 lol
[09:53:51] <DanielK_WMDE__>	 pywikibot.data.api.APIError: save-failed: As an anti-spam measure, you are limited from performing this action too many times in a short space of time, and you have exceeded this limit.
[09:53:52] <DanielK_WMDE__>	 Please try again in a few minutes.
[09:54:00] * aude  comes to workshop :)

[09:54:03] <rschen7754>	 DanielK_WMDE__: i thought that was a confirmed issue
[09:54:07] <Reedy>	 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:AbuseFilter
[09:54:24] <DanielK_WMDE__>	 rschen7754: confirmed issue? what do you mean?
[09:54:40] <rschen7754>	 if they're not autoconfirmed
[09:56:11] <DanielK_WMDE__>	 ah, autoconfirmed...
[09:56:21] <Reedy>	 autoconfirm all of the users
[09:56:26] <DanielK_WMDE__>	 rschen7754: could still disabled the filter for now
[09:56:33] <DanielK_WMDE__>	 but i don't see the rule in abusefilter
[09:56:36] <DanielK_WMDE__>	 may be something else
[09:56:55] <rschen7754>	 i'm pretty sure it's not abusefilter
[09:57:47] <DanielK_WMDE__>	 right
[09:58:12] <DanielK_WMDE__>	 so we'll need someone to autoconfirm all the bots :P
[09:58:18] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Diff] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/65257
[09:58:30] <rschen7754>	 i can do it if you give me the names
[09:58:39] <DanielK_WMDE__>	 rschen7754: mine is DuesenBot
[09:58:48] <DanielK_WMDE__>	 do't know the rest
[09:59:18] <rschen7754>	 done
[09:59:23] <rschen7754>	 and i got deskana's
[09:59:49] <lbenedix>	 mine is lbenedix_bot
[10:00:14] <DanielK_WMDE__>	 rschen7754: thanks
[10:00:19] <rschen7754>	 np
[10:00:21] <rschen7754>	 did that fix it?
[10:01:05] <DanielK_WMDE__>	 rschen7754: seems to work for me
[10:01:12] <rschen7754>	 ok, so maybe that's it
[10:01:31] <DanielK_WMDE__>	 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/DuesenBot
[10:02:38] <lbenedix>	 I dont think "imported from xz Wikipedia" is a good source
[10:02:54] <lbenedix>	 btw. I've never seen another source in wikidata
[10:03:02] <DanielK_WMDE__>	 lbenedix: well, since it's based on the categorization on wikipedia, it's actually accurate...
[10:03:32] <DanielK_WMDE__>	 lbenedix: otoh, it would be nice for the bot to have an option for providing a source
[10:04:04] <lbenedix>	 is there an overview about used sources in wikidata?
[10:05:41] <robla>	 need autoconfirm on RobLaBot
[10:06:49] <rschen7754>	 done
[10:06:58] <robla>	 thanks!
[10:07:08] <rschen7754>	 np
[10:12:14] <DanielK_WMDE__>	 lbenedix: not easy to get that form the database
[10:12:33] <lbenedix>	 its part of phase 3?
[10:12:39] <DanielK_WMDE__>	 lbenedix: no
[10:12:39] <lbenedix>	 running queries against wikidata
[10:12:47] <DanielK_WMDE__>	 queries is pahase 3
[10:13:03] <DanielK_WMDE__>	 but afaik there are no plans to allow queries for or by source
[10:13:12] <lbenedix>	 "generate a list of sources" is a querie, isnt it?
[10:13:30] <DanielK_WMDE__>	 that would be quite tricky, because sources can have any structure - a simple string, reference to an item, whatever 
[10:14:12] <DanielK_WMDE__>	 lbenedix: sure, but not one we are likely to support. at least at first, you will query for a property's (main snak) value, nothing else
[10:17:30] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Daniel Werner; "As discussed with Hoo at the hackathon, I'll have a further look at this and do the changes mentione..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/64472
[10:27:23] <Reedy>	 He discused with with who?
[10:47:47] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Implemented ValuelessSnakStore->removeSnaksOfSubject" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/65578
[10:56:59] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Added Travis CI config file" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/65580
[10:59:35] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/65580
[12:05:25] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Added phpunit.xml file for all projects in the repo" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/65587
[12:06:33] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Updated travis config file to run the tests of all components in this git repo" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/65588
[12:12:20] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Added README in the repo root" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/65590
[12:14:35] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Updated build status to point to auto updated travis project" [mediawiki/extensions/Diff] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/65592
[12:20:13] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Daniel Werner; "I don't think we want global events like this" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/65113
[12:23:00] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Daniel Werner; "(1 comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/65113
[12:24:49] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/65125
[13:37:23] * jarry1250_  tests his IRC connection

[14:54:59] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Henning Snater; "Import of coordinate.js [DO NOT MERGE]" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/65631
[14:54:59] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Henning Snater; "Formatted coordinate.js files according to coding style" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/65632
[14:57:16] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Henning Snater; "Added missing dependency of TimeInput expert" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/65633
[17:14:43] <nikki>	 if the plan is to only allow redirects rather than allowing a wikipedia link to be used on multiple wikidata items, doesn't that mean we'll have to create redirects in wikipedia in order to be able to link to things that combine multiple concepts?
[17:15:14] <nikki>	 and doesn't allowing redirects just hide the fact that a single page is for multiple concepts?
[17:28:28] <reosarevok>	 .......
[17:28:29] <reosarevok>	 http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q7399255
[17:28:49] <Sky2042_afk>	 reosarevok: :D
[17:29:06] <Sky2042_afk>	 dat's some trolly vandalism
[17:29:28] <Jasper_Deng>	 it isn't vandalism as much as it is confusion
[17:29:31] <Jasper_Deng>	 reverted
[17:30:26] <reosarevok>	 Thanks :)
[17:54:08] <Mr_F>	 So uh
[17:54:19] <Mr_F>	 Are people filing approval requests for those bots?
[17:54:31] <JohnLewis>	 Mr_F: Which?
[17:54:56] <Mr_F>	 RobLaBot, DuesenBot, lbenedix_bot, Deskana's bot
[17:55:23] <JohnLewis>	 Mr_F: Why? They were only Amsterdam worksop ones. They won't be used again unless their ops want to do bot work.
[17:55:39] <Mr_F>	 Oh.
[17:55:47] <Mr_F>	 They weren't planning to run them long term? :(
[17:56:04] <JohnLewis>	 Mr_F: You could ask them to consider running them :)
[17:56:59] <JohnLewis>	 Though I doubt Deskana would. He is the one who told me about the temp workshop running.
[17:58:29] <JohnLewis>	 Mr_F: Addshore notified them all onwiki about it and notified them all at the hackathon. Some may be interested and if so, they will request approval.
[17:58:38] <Mr_F>	 great
[17:59:09] <JohnLewis>	 I was considering putting them into a cateogry of somesort.
[18:36:29] <wm-bot>	 Change on 12mediawiki a page Extension:WikibaseLib was modified, changed by 81.129.84.113 link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=695747 edit summary: [+35] /* Requirements */
[20:38:09] <GerardM>	 The module by Jens Ohlig works well for me !!
[21:04:24] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Minor improvements to DataTypeFactory" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/65647
[21:14:40] <hoo>	 Anyone up to CR the stuff I wrote on the train back to Germany? :D
[21:15:13] <JohnLewis>	 hoo: A train you say? :P
[21:15:40] <hoo>	 multiple ones actually
[21:16:00] <JohnLewis>	 hoo: Ah. Back to the original topic, I may be up to it.
[21:16:05] <hoo>	 I think I was like the only one from Germany not flying but taking the lovely, slow train
[21:16:51] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Hoo man; "Implement Client to Repo move change propagation" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/65648
[21:17:35] <legoktm>	 hoo: :D
[21:17:37] <hoo>	 JohnLewis: There you go :P That's actually not quite trivial
[21:17:58] <JohnLewis>	 hoo: The hard part is remembering my username.
[21:18:36] <hoo>	 :D
[21:19:56] <legoktm>	 This
[21:19:56] <legoktm>	 will only happen if the user got a global account
[21:19:56] <legoktm>	 and both the local (client) and the repo account
[21:20:17] <legoktm>	 hoo: can we autocreate their account on wikidata if they dont have an account yet?
[21:21:05] <hoo>	 legoktm: Well... after the SUL finalization has been finished, I guess the WMF could
[21:21:24] <hoo>	 But then we'd still have blocked users and protected pages and things like that
[21:23:33] <legoktm>	 Oh right.
[21:24:44] <hoo>	 If we'd really wanted to have it consistent in a billion percent of the cases we'd have to use a pseudo-bot or so and just bypass these things... but I'm not sure that's good or that we really need that
[21:50:39] <hoo>	 DanielK_WMDE__: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/65648 I had some fights with the MediaWiki jobqueue ... and I think I've might even hit a bug (or it was my setup). But it works now
[22:17:59] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Hoo man; "Implement Client to Repo move change propagation" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/65648
[22:49:03] <reosarevok>	 legoktm, ping
[22:54:47] <legoktm>	 reosarevok: pong
[22:55:49] <reosarevok>	 so, the bot code is finally working
[22:55:57] <reosarevok>	 What would you suggest we use as source?
[22:56:30] <legoktm>	 well, where are you getting the data from?
[22:56:39] <reosarevok>	 The ISO codes are taken from ISO, mapped to wikipedia via the ISO pages in enwiki, then imported to MB, then fixed a bit in the matching, then submitted from the MB db
[22:56:57] <reosarevok>	 So, dunno what of all the steps is more important :)
[22:59:15] <legoktm>	 hm
[22:59:36] <legoktm>	 i'm not really sure either :P
[23:02:39] <reosarevok>	 heh
[23:02:46] <reosarevok>	 I mean, I might as well say MB
[23:03:01] <reosarevok>	 (that way I don't need to change anything since that's what the artist one says :p)
[23:05:11] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Hoo man; "Implement Client to Repo move change propagation" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/65648
[23:05:38] <legoktm>	 sounds good to me :P
[23:08:36] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Hoo man; "(1 comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/65648
[23:09:15] <reosarevok>	 ok, running a test run