[00:56:39] I've been talking to Sumanah, and she suggests that I should scope my project for 6 weeks instead of 12 [00:57:37] This is the state of my application as of now : http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Pragunbhutani/GSoC_2013_Proposal [00:58:24] I'm in no position to judge your idea, pragunbhutani, but I think it's a good one [00:58:40] (and I do think the use of JS should be avoided where possible) [00:59:06] keeping the six week scope in mind, I propose moving everything after the first milestone (and the corresponding deliverables) to an 'if time permits' category and make space for code review/bug fixes instead [00:59:25] Jasper_Deng: thanks, that's the general idea :) [01:00:26] I wanted to run it by this channel before doing it [01:00:32] Does it seem like a good idea? [01:01:06] it does, but again, I'm not a Wikidata developer [01:01:24] and I don't see one online atm (except possibly JeroenDeDauw) [01:04:18] ppl [01:04:49] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat#Abusefilter-view-private_and_abusefilter-log-private_for_rollbackers is bothering me :-) [01:05:47] odder: I think we need a full RfC for that, that's not enough consensus for a new right. I don't think that's a big disclosure. [01:06:40] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47503#c1 my thoughts exactly [06:36:57] hello is anyone on? [06:37:29] coooooooooooooooooooooooooool [06:39:53] seriously no one is talking [06:40:07] isnt that the point of irc? [06:40:28] xhelmsx: it's the middle of the night in the US, and early morning in europe [06:40:43] this is true [06:40:46] and i am in the us [06:41:04] but come on 2:40am isnt early [06:42:37] anybody in here from eastern europe? [06:45:04] * jeremyb_ isn't going to bother responding to this mail on wikidata-l now... [06:45:12] maybe someone else will :) [06:48:31] jeremyb_: link? [06:48:37] errr [06:49:19] slooooow [06:49:23] i need to close some tabs [06:52:48] legoktm: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikidata-l/2013-April/002176.html [06:54:11] ty [06:54:51] Hahc21: ok where do i see all RfP's on one page? [06:55:18] eeeeeh [06:56:01] ill just make one fast [06:57:21] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_permissions/All [06:57:21] I was about to do that... [06:57:24] I was doing that [06:57:25] xD [07:35:59] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Added QUnit tests for DataType constructor and instances" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60809 [07:36:00] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Introduction of qunit-parameterized for usage in QUnit tests" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60808 [07:36:00] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Added tests for jQuery.valueview.ExpertFactory" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60811 [07:36:00] New patchset: Henning Snater; "DataType constructor taking DataValue constructors as 2nd argument now" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60810 [07:37:09] Change merged: Henning Snater; [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60808 [07:39:39] Change merged: Henning Snater; [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60809 [07:49:09] New patchset: Henning Snater; "DataType constructor taking DataValue constructors as 2nd argument now" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60810 [07:50:06] Change merged: Henning Snater; [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60810 [07:50:16] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Added tests for jQuery.valueview.ExpertFactory" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60811 [08:03:43] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Added tests for jQuery.valueview.ExpertFactory" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60811 [08:15:41] Change merged: Henning Snater; [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60811 [08:59:28] Lydia_WMDE: moin! uh, is denny there? should i dial in for the daily? what hangout? [09:00:01] DanielK_WMDE: denny sagt erst wenn abraham da ist und es organisiert ;-) [09:00:04] also nächste woche [09:00:50] :P [09:00:52] kk [09:00:55] moin Denny_WMDE [09:01:37] brief daily: got a bunch of reactions/reviews from wmf folks after the call yesterday. will reply to those, then work on Special:EditEntity [09:01:53] that's it from my side :) [09:12:18] DanielK_WMDE: will spend time on the rc patrol thing, namespace setting for clients, and then back to change dispatcher [09:14:45] Danwe_WMDE: and Henning_WMDE will be working on the time datatype [09:14:59] and i will make slides, answer emails, and am there for any question [09:20:18] yay :) [09:23:04] Hi. Can I have IP block exempt on wikidata? My IP when I am connected to VPN is blocked on Wikidata. I have IP block exempt on en.wiki since 2010 [09:23:51] ebraminio: sure give me a sec [09:25:46] ebraminio: done [09:27:53] legoktm: Thanks :) [09:28:11] np [10:07:12] ouch. the gigaom article on wikidata is great. but it's screenshot shows a bug… http://gigaom.com/2013/04/26/wikipedia-is-now-drawing-facts-from-the-wikidata-repository-and-so-can-you/ [10:07:14] :P [10:07:16] hehe [10:10:30] hehe [10:25:34] Lydia_WMDE: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_comment/A_need_for_a_resolution_regarding_article_moves_and_redirects#Clarification [11:06:08] is there a welcome template we have encouraging ips to create an account? i'd love to autopatrol some IP addresses... [11:15:45] legoktm: yeah, I'd love to have that too. Haven't checked, though [11:16:22] Moe_Epsilon: poke [11:16:28] wanna make a welcome template? :) [11:16:38] howdy [11:16:50] a Wikidata welcome template? [11:17:04] well one targeted towards ips and telling them to make an account [11:17:08] lemme find the enwiki version [11:17:26] Denny_WMDE: Lydia_WMDE https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47620 [11:17:34] maybe someone could cleanup the mainpage... [11:17:34] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Welcome-anon [11:17:38] can you comment there if all talk page namespaces should be excluded [11:17:44] for having the widget, etc. [11:17:54] lbenedix: so fix it [11:18:03] :) [11:18:08] legoktm: sure, I can do that :) [11:18:12] :D [11:18:34] there are 14 Links in the Contribute-section [11:18:43] lbenedix: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q12000000 :D [11:18:46] er [11:18:51] that was just for everyone [11:19:03] lbenedix: i was gonna say if you draft a new main page in a userpage, that would be awesome [11:19:36] I'm not a designer... but I'll see what I can do [11:19:51] * Moe_Epsilon wonders what the prefix for the foundation website is [11:19:52] there should be a simple explanation what wikidata is... maybe a diagram [11:19:57] :foundationwiki ? [11:20:00] Moe_Epsilon: [[wmf:]] [11:20:02] [2] 04https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/ [11:20:05] that works :p [11:21:02] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Interproject_links_in_title_dropdown_(version_by_NaBUru38).jpg [11:21:53] legoktm: similar to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Welcome-anon [11:21:56] ? [11:22:01] Moe_Epsilon: yup [11:22:13] mmk :) [11:23:55] * Moe_Epsilon frowns searching for d:Template:Welcome and being brought to Q5611978 [11:25:29] yeah [11:25:38] theres a bug about that i think [11:33:46] DanielK_WMDE, hi, i partially agree with you re "if langlinks are stored externally, they should be requested from the source" argument [11:42:25] u"session-failure: * '''Sorry! We could not process your edit due to a loss of session data.'''\nPlease try again.\nIf it still does not work, try [[Special:UserLogout|logging out]] and logging back in.\n* \n" [11:42:28] hmmmmm [11:43:24] thats weird. [11:49:47] ugh [11:49:49] it wont go away [11:50:04] i can edit just fine logged out >.< [11:51:40] heyas [11:51:56] WD doesn't work. [11:52:59] I just created [[simple:Footbridge]] (while logged in), and wanted to add x-wiki links. The thing asks me to log into wd to do this. [11:53:00] [4] 10https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Footbridge [11:54:22] hm [11:54:27] where were you trying to link it to? [11:54:38] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Footbridge [11:54:39] When I do the exactly same (add a link, eg. to [[de:Fußgängerbrücke]] I don't need to log in to wd [11:54:40] [5] 10https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fu%C3%9Fg%C3%A4ngerbr%C3%BCcke [11:55:13] legoktm: en:footbridge, but this doesn't matter, as I don't get the usual wd screen [11:55:53] ok this is weird [11:55:56] its not working for me [11:56:04] and hoo isnt here :( [11:56:23] actually [11:56:24] i got it [11:56:30] i just had to clear my cache a few times? [11:56:45] im not gonna link it though so you can try [11:57:12] legoktm: thats not a solution, nor explanation. thats a workaround at best [11:57:40] well im not sure [11:58:14] legoktm: guess Template:Welcome-anon/text should be marked from translation [11:58:24] have all the parameters for English up [11:59:04] marked for* [11:59:33] eptalon: its working for me first try on other simple pages [12:00:40] legoktm: http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:195.75.73.1 [12:00:47] ok, guess I am wrong them [12:00:50] er then [12:01:03] Moe_Epsilon: nice! [12:01:10] :) [12:03:53] legoktm: you're translation admin right? Can you mark http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Template:Welcome-anon/text for translation? [12:04:00] oh yeah [12:04:01] right [12:04:42] > The page Template:Welcome-anon/text has been marked up for translation with 7 translation units. The page can now be translated. [12:04:54] :) [12:05:45] ok this is seriously pissing me off [12:06:05] what is [12:06:45] im not sure why i keep getting session failures [12:06:50] u"session-failure: * '''Sorry! We could not process your edit due to a loss of session data.'''\nPlease try again.\nIf it still does not work, try [[Special:UserLogout|logging out]] and logging back in.\n* \n" [12:07:00] :< [12:07:49] you're not going back and forth between wikidata.org and www.wikidata.org are you? [12:08:12] or was that bug fixed? [12:08:18] nope [12:08:20] this is my bot [12:08:43] oh.. [12:08:56] 'wikidata': 'www.wikidata.org', [12:09:43] Hello! [12:09:49] hi! [12:11:11] it would be just easier to run this logged out or something >.< [12:19:55] ops, please delete http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q12012324 [12:20:36] ebraminio: done [12:23:34] Change on 12mediawiki a page Extension:Wikibase Client was modified, changed by Jens Ohlig link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=678869 edit summary: [+36] /* Requirements */ Extension:Scribunto [12:24:00] scribunto is a requirement? [12:24:13] not just an option? [12:27:36] legoktm: TNX! :) [12:27:42] np :) [12:28:50] I've completed a draft of my GSoC proposal [12:29:55] may I have some feedback please? [12:31:38] akjshdfjd i figured out what i did wrong [12:42:31] legoktm: say so [12:42:53] huh? [12:43:04] legoktm: what you did wrong :) [12:43:09] oh [12:43:17] i was trying to pass a token from nlwiki onto wikidata :P [12:43:22] pragunbhutani: yes, you should. ping us if you don't get it today :) [12:43:32] legoktm: ah. yeah. ok :) [12:43:48] multichill: im running through the nlwiki category right now and attempting to create items for those that dont exist yet [12:43:51] Denny_WMDE: roger that, thanks :) [13:36:43] hi [13:36:57] how can i mark something to be fictional? [13:37:17] should I? [13:38:38] legoktm: Ok, great! :-) [13:38:55] Schisma_: im not sure if we have a property for that [13:39:05] maybe instance of --> fictional character? [13:39:12] multichill: ill run through enwiki afterwards :) [13:39:24] More hits at enwp already? [13:40:52] legoktm: but its not a character [13:41:03] oh what is it then? [13:41:07] not necessarily [13:41:16] http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1110 [13:41:19] ► Commons category without a link on Wikidata‎ (113,514 C, 66,879 P) [13:41:30] fictional sovereign state ^^ [13:41:41] hahaah [13:41:56] Schisma_: im not sure :P [13:42:07] maybe someone should propose a boolean fictional property? [13:42:22] maybe there should be an "is fictional" property [13:42:36] or something like this [13:42:55] fictional characters could be "persons" and "is fictional" [13:44:29] propose it :) [13:44:53] maybe a fictional instance of? [13:44:57] does it make any sense? [13:45:08] yes... cool [13:45:10] well there should be something... [13:45:12] better [13:47:33] what about people whos actual existence is unknown? [13:47:33] http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q302 [13:48:49] like we need to start a debate about that >.< [13:48:50] um [13:49:15] we can use a the 'unknown' value [13:50:58] so the would also assume an is_fictional value [13:51:16] is_fictional=yes, is_fictional=no, is_fictional=unknown [13:51:25] doesn't look like wikidata logic [13:52:02] its unknown for the yeti [13:52:08] until you find one [13:52:28] well [13:52:28] idk [13:52:49] is it fictional until you find one? [13:53:51] lbenedix: not helping [13:54:04] Schisma_: please no booleans :P [13:54:17] ^^ [13:54:19] Denny_WMDE1: no booleans? [13:54:26] booleans suck [13:54:47] why that? [13:54:58] booleans suck == true ? [13:55:05] :D [13:55:12] LOL [13:55:29] otherewise for a boolean like "is fictional" someone could make the case that they should be on every persons page [13:55:39] true [13:55:40] Obama - is fictional = true [13:55:44] nah, you dont want that [13:55:53] I have never seen Obama [13:56:02] * legoktm slaps lbenedix [13:56:09] legoktm: thx [13:56:14] :P [13:56:19] if(booleans_suck == true) { false = true; } [13:56:26] :D [13:57:15] there is actually quite some philosophical research on the topic of the ontology of the fictional [13:57:55] but for now, I'd guess, just "instance of -> fictional person" or sth like this could handle that issue [13:58:20] Denny_WMDE1: only if you want to describe a fictional person [13:58:31] or, maybe even better, a property "fictional universe -> Marvel universe" [13:58:40] that could be used anywhere [13:58:55] only if there is a universe article [13:59:09] want to bet they all have? :) [13:59:14] "fictional universe -> Christianity" :D [13:59:45] Schisma_: your name points to the idea that that would be too simple :) [14:00:15] and I could imagine that some people might find it offensive to read "Moses, fictional universe -> Torah" [14:00:27] whatever, please no booleans [14:01:03] Santa Claus - fictional? :P [14:01:25] aude: no spoilers! we want to remain kid friendly ;) [14:01:32] :) [14:04:00] Denny_WMDE1: what is the problem with booleans? [14:06:28] hmm, i thought i already said so [14:06:44] booleans have the notorious quality of being either true or false for everything [14:07:04] or unknown [14:07:15] well, sure, but that's not the point [14:07:28] one could always make an argument that it should be there on every item [14:07:49] and you would not want any such property, for obvious reasons [14:08:45] but wont the community decide that "is fictoinal = false" is not a good property for Q525 [14:09:20] btw. a click on "edit links" in wikipedia dont show the links-section of the wikidata-page [14:09:24] maybe a bug [14:09:56] definitely confusing [14:09:57] lbenedix: i think fixed in next deployment [14:10:05] ok [14:15:06] * lbenedix stops arguing for bool type... all bools can be replaced by some "is a"-property [14:24:28] i need to force one wikidata-item into another wikidata-item since it just is another language for the single one. ? http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1049151 <-- http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q11976148 [14:24:50] could anyone do the trick here [14:29:16] howwddyyyyyy [14:32:08] hello anyone here... ? [14:33:18] Migrant: put the data from one in the other and put the other one here: http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions [14:33:42] or just put it there, and tell them to merge it :) [14:34:51] Migrant: {{doing}} [14:34:51] [1] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Template:doing [14:35:20] done [14:39:35] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Fix issues in Entity::patch" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60872 [14:40:51] Denny_WMDE1: okay will to the comment on the linked page you gave me.. thanks [14:41:04] Migrant: errrr, read Stryn above [14:41:07] JeroenDeDauw : i also just figured out why the tests were failing [14:41:11] :) [14:41:15] oh [14:41:18] ok, I'll review [14:41:44] we need to include a link to https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:Merge in the topic :P [14:41:51] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Import classes rather then using FQNs" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/61008 [14:43:26] Stryn : did you merge the wikidata-items for me ? [14:43:34] yep :) [14:43:44] Thanks :) [14:43:49] you're welcome :) [14:46:11] hashar: please to merge https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/60211/ ? :p [14:46:26] ohhh [14:46:36] JeroenDeDauw: sorry haven't seen that one :D are they passing ? [14:46:53] hashar: probably not [14:47:00] hashar: this is not a real issue though [14:47:01] indeed http://integration.wikimedia.org/ci/job/mwext-Wikibase-testextensions-master/? [14:47:10] Right now we do not know if they are failing or not, and if they are, why [14:47:12] that will make jenkins vote -1 isn't it ? [14:47:28] If the tests fail, it should -2 [14:47:37] 17:40:47 DB connection error: Unknown error () [14:47:38] :( [14:47:56] hashar: alternatively if we had a way to tigger the tests to run manually on jenkins, we could also further debug this [14:48:09] ah [14:48:15] so whenever you are on a build result like http://integration.wikimedia.org/ci/job/mwext-Wikibase-testextensions-master/1465/ [14:48:23] on the left is a link "Rebuild" [14:48:37] that let you resubmit the job with all the parameters that were originally provided by zuul [14:48:46] gives you http://integration.wikimedia.org/ci/job/mwext-Wikibase-testextensions-master/1465/rebuild/? [14:48:55] pressing [Rebuild] at the bottom craft a new build [14:48:56] :) [14:49:24] hashar: I guess this link only shows up when one has certain rights? [14:49:54] JeroenDeDauw: aren't you logged in ? [14:49:59] Is the login for Jenkins the same as for labs/gerrit, or is it separate? [14:50:02] I am not logged in [14:50:04] that is labs [14:50:22] I am looking at the rights matrix [14:50:53] hashar: logged in, still don't see the rebuild button [14:51:30] ah that is for the ldap group 'wmf' [14:52:08] hashar: well, would be good if the wd team could trigger rebuilds for our codes :) [14:52:39] Or if possible, everyone who can +2 for some repo, also tirgger rebuilds for the tests for that repo [14:53:05] I guess that is not easily feasible unless there is a jenkins gerrit plugin thinghy for that tho :p [14:53:51] Tobi_WMDE: revieeeeeeeeeeeeew!!! :p [14:54:39] JeroenDeDauw: I guess we need to create a wmde LDAP group [14:54:46] that would be useful for Gerrit projects too [14:54:53] I think your group is manually maintained right now [14:55:12] hashar: we have a group on gerrit [14:55:15] not a wmde one [14:55:17] JeroenDeDauw: almost finished with testing [14:55:17] a wikidata one [14:55:19] :-P [14:56:42] Tobi_WMDE: hashar: so how feasible is it to have the Selenium tests we have run on WMF Jenkins? [14:56:58] JeroenDeDauw: we don't run selenium :D [14:57:11] hashar: why not? [14:57:15] hashar: that's what I thought [14:57:22] JeroenDeDauw: for now that is done using a third party : browserstack / cloudbees [14:58:22] so we though it would cost too much to build a farm of virtual instances that runs a gazillon of different browsers / OS [14:58:32] so instead we get the service from two 3rd parties [14:58:35] hashar: sure. We have selemium tests now though and are relying on them. They are run on our own Jenkins. Would be better if this was linked to gerrit though. So is there anything that prevents us from moving our current selenium infrastructure to labs and have it run by WMF Jenkins? [14:58:47] zeljkof is maintaining them. I am sure he could give you an introduction course / get you an account [14:59:03] ahh [14:59:08] hashar: can we use these things to run Selenium tests we wrote? [14:59:12] Or is that just for QUnit? [14:59:15] JeroenDeDauw: oh please no! labs is way too slow [14:59:20] that is selenium [14:59:37] QUnit has been implemented by Timo. They are being run in a headless browser (phantom.js) [14:59:53] and labs is a firm NO. It is not reliable :/ [15:00:03] is it possble to give me a temporary sysop flag for 5 minutes (300 seconds) to translate http://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Translate&taction=translate&group=translate-workflow-states&language=uk&filter=!translated&action=translate [15:00:07] hashar: well, we could also do better on the QUNit front. We have a lot of such tests, and it'd be awesome if they could be run by WMD Jenkins [15:00:14] Denny_WMDE1: i think there's essentially no public access to OAI [15:00:22] hashar: ok, no labs then [15:00:27] (in general, not specifically wikidata) [15:00:34] <^demon> jeremyb_: Yes. [15:00:43] if yes ask me when i will be ready because i'm afk for I while now [15:00:52] Barras: why do you need a sysop flag? [15:00:55] for that at least? [15:00:57] JeroenDeDauw: for QUnit the first step was to get them running for mw/core . The second step is having them running reliably for the Visual Editor extension (timo is part of that WMF team). [15:01:12] JeroenDeDauw: once they work fine on VisualEditor, we can generalize QUnit to other extensions. [15:01:13] er [15:01:19] hashar: Tobi_WMDE: so the two alternatives remaining for the Selenium tests then are: 1. we continue using our current infrastructure but have it linked up to gerrit. 2. we have the tests run by the 3rd party things you mentioned, if this is indeed possible [15:01:20] ^demon: you agree? [15:01:23] Base-w: why do you need a sysop flag to translate? [15:01:38] legoktm: I don't need any sysop flag... I've that access anyway. :-p [15:01:38] ^demon: did you see the thread about Instant data repo? [15:01:44] (wikidata-l) [15:02:01] <^demon> Huh? No. [15:02:07] Barras: wrong ping sorry :P [15:02:18] <^demon> I was just saying yes to "No you can't get to OAI without a user/password" [15:02:24] ok, good [15:02:31] well see the list if you feel like it :) [15:02:32] hashar: QUnit: well, it sucks for us to be blocked on that. What if we want to put some effort into this ourselves? [15:02:43] JeroenDeDauw: our selenium tests take about one hour to run once. do you think that would make sense to hook them to gerrit for each changeset? [15:03:21] Tobi_WMDE: perhaps not; however being able to request them to run for a single changeset would be great [15:03:33] <^demon> jeremyb_: I'm not on the list. Thread so I can search archives? [15:03:39] JeroenDeDauw: indeed, that would be nice [15:03:50] JeroenDeDauw: we could also discuss this on monday [15:04:01] I think we have a CI discussion then [15:04:01] <^demon> Ah, found it. [15:04:04] 26 06:52:47 < jeremyb_> legoktm: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikidata-l/2013-April/002176.html [15:04:32] Tobi_WMDE: a one hour run would not be very helpful for Gerrit reporting indeed :-] [15:04:55] Tobi_WMDE: yeah, we do have a meeting on this. It's good to get some of hashars thoughts before then though [15:05:14] hashar: presumably we can run some subset [15:05:24] JeroenDeDauw: Tobi_WMDE want me to join your monday meeting? or we can meet the three of us over skype/google hangout [15:05:54] hashar: in any case, even if we end up not running everything for each commit, it'd be very good to be able to trigger the tests manually. Right now only a few people have a selenium setup [15:05:57] <^demon> jeremyb_: tldr: Cross-wiki stuff is hard ;-) [15:06:09] hashar: that could work perhaps [15:06:16] hashar: JeroenDeDauw: sure. it's 3pm our time [15:07:58] ^demon: :-) [15:08:16] hmm [15:08:27] hashar: for now, it'd be great if we could get PHPUnit to work - so is it possible to give us the trigger build rights? [15:08:27] I am not sure I am willing to assist a meeting in German though :-D [15:08:41] hashar: I don't know German, so it'll be in English [15:08:47] oh my god [15:08:52] BREAKING NEWS [15:09:02] I thought you were german :) [15:09:13] lol :) [15:09:16] lulz [15:09:16] Nope, Dutch [15:09:19] <--- epic fails [15:09:41] (Permission is hereby granted to quote me and have fun) [15:10:07] hehe, what could possibly go wrong? [15:10:22] me revealing I am french? [15:10:25] oops [15:11:46] ^demon: oh, whoops, just now noticed that he /quit before i even started talking to him. and now the guy on the list figured out it's password protected and requested access [15:11:59] hashar: can you see this list? https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/admin/groups/32,members [15:12:00] JeroenDeDauw: Tobi_WMDE Iam dropping a mail and CCing Zeljko Filipin who is the selenium boss :-] [15:12:04] JeroenDeDauw: yeah [15:12:13] huh [15:12:14] heh [15:12:19] hasharok [15:12:19] hashar: well, if those people can get access... [15:12:24] JeroenDeDauw: will fill a RT ticket for ops to convert that to a LDAP group. Something like wmde [15:12:24]