[02:06:55] <legoktm>	 JohnLewis: hold off a minute, lemme my bot mark them as done
[02:07:09] <JohnLewis>	 haha, Ok Legoktm.
[02:07:18] <legoktm>	 ok, go ahead :)
[02:07:26] <JohnLewis>	 Think I've done over 100 in the past 3 horus :)
[02:07:32] <JohnLewis>	 *hours
[02:14:38] <JohnLewis>	 Legoktm: Were you using your bot to mark them as done?
[02:14:43] <legoktm>	 yeah
[02:14:56] <JohnLewis>	 Too much to do or just prefer the bot?
[02:15:09] <legoktm>	 too painful to do manually
[02:15:36] <JohnLewis>	 :D
[02:15:45] <JohnLewis>	 Another 50 coming your way I think too :)
[02:20:23] <Riley_Huntley>	 And wikidata is down..
[02:21:21] <JohnLewis>	 Riley: I know you want too, but Don't blame the guy making about 3 edits a second to RfD :P
[02:21:51] <Riley_Huntley>	 I'm the guy making 3 deletions a second xD
[02:22:26] <JohnLewis>	 :) Your fault for insisting on deleting items I nom immediately :P
[02:22:34] <Riley_Huntley>	 Haha
[02:36:25] <PinkAmpersand>	 hey, could someone please mark https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46169 as a duplicate of https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45140 ?
[02:38:58] <legoktm>	 sure
[02:39:17] <PinkAmpersand>	 thanks :)
[02:40:01] <legoktm>	 omg
[02:40:05] <legoktm>	 email sent to like 30 people
[02:40:38] <JohnLewis>	 Legoktm; Make some more RfDs :P I promise, I only have 20 left on my list :)
[02:40:56] <legoktm>	 o.O
[02:42:04] <PinkAmpersand>	 legoktm: any clue where I could find the file that the bug is in? as far as I can tell, it's just that a few instances of 'wikibase-blockeduser-tooltip-message' need to be changed to 'wikibase-restrictionedit-tooltip-message'
[02:43:33] <legoktm>	 ummm
[02:43:38] <legoktm>	 grep
[02:44:52] <PinkAmpersand>	 ?
[02:46:18] <legoktm>	 sorry my ircclient just crashed
[02:46:48] <legoktm>	 oh
[02:46:55] <legoktm>	 grep is basically command line search
[02:47:00] <legoktm>	 you just gotta search for the message name
[02:47:19] <PinkAmpersand>	 oh. where do I find.... grep?
[02:47:21] <legoktm>	 its quite possibly a .js file
[02:47:32] <legoktm>	 windows, osx, or linux?
[02:47:40] <PinkAmpersand>	 ChromeOS :P
[02:47:52] <PinkAmpersand>	 I can dig up a PC if I have to though
[02:48:53] <legoktm>	 oh
[02:48:54] <legoktm>	 nvm
[02:48:56] <legoktm>	 just
[02:48:58] <legoktm>	 gah
[02:49:02] <JohnLewis>	 Leogktm: Done now. I think ~200 requests is enough for one night.
[02:49:07] <legoktm>	 you need to download the source code
[02:49:10] <legoktm>	 and search through it
[02:49:13] <JohnLewis>	 More like, 180 I think.
[02:49:16] <legoktm>	 JohnLewis: ill let Riley tackle it :)
[02:49:25] <JohnLewis>	 Haha :)
[02:49:57] <JohnLewis>	 401 edits :P 200 more than I started out at this morning.
[02:50:04] <PinkAmpersand>	 ugh. I'll leave it for one of the pros, then :P
[04:34:11] <legoktm>	 So from what I'm looking at right now, http://tools.wmflabs.org/legobot/dispatchstats.log, if the EPM is correct, it really means there is no correlation.
[08:01:24] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/58084
[08:19:14] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Cleanup of DataType related formatting code" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/57466
[08:24:58] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Tpt; "(Bug 42063, bug 44577) Special:EntityData supports RDF output" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51164
[08:29:24] <Lydia_WMDE>	 legoktm: hey :)
[08:29:30] <Lydia_WMDE>	 it's misleading
[08:30:07] <Lydia_WMDE>	 the thing that is really important is the number of changes that need to be dispatched
[08:30:12] <Lydia_WMDE>	 and that is going down
[08:30:24] <Lydia_WMDE>	 we just discussed this here in the office because we were confused as well
[08:30:43] <Lydia_WMDE>	 the issue is that there is a certain number of edits per minute we can deal with
[08:30:57] <Lydia_WMDE>	 and we had way beyond that in the last few days
[08:31:26] <Lydia_WMDE>	 those are still being caught up and that increases the lag while th enumber is actually going down
[08:31:47] <Lydia_WMDE>	 (yes this is confusing but it's all good and we should continue like this :))
[08:57:12] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Tpt; "(Bug 42063, bug 44577) Special:EntityData supports RDF output" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51164
[10:17:31] <JeroenDeDauw1>	 Tobi_WMDE: REVIEEEEEEEEEEW!!!!
[10:17:36] <JeroenDeDauw1>	 !nyan
[10:17:36] <wm-bot>	 ~=[,,_,,]:3
[10:17:40] <JeroenDeDauw1>	 !nyandata
[10:17:40] <wm-bot>	 https://bit.ly/nyandata
[10:37:02] <JeroenDeDauw1>	 Tobi_WMDE: You can haz belgian chocolate if you review :p
[10:37:06] <JeroenDeDauw1>	 \bribe
[10:53:15] <Tobi_WMDE>	 JeroenDeDauw1: will
[11:42:24] <lbenedix>	 JeroenDeDauw: is bribing reviewers working?
[12:33:06] <Tobi_WMDE>	 JeroenDeDauw1: I
[12:33:42] <Tobi_WMDE>	 'I'm now just getting a "TODO" instead of the item's label
[12:34:19] <JeroenDeDauw1>	 Tobi_WMDE: you broke it!
[12:34:25] <Tobi_WMDE>	 noooo
[12:34:41] <JeroenDeDauw1>	 Tobi_WMDE: means the hack is not working
[12:35:27] <Tobi_WMDE>	 bad
[12:37:01] * lbenedix  added a new feature to his Wikidatameter: http://www.youtube.com/embed/_yGXC9ePjUg

[13:22:41] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Tobias Gritschacher; "(1 comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Diff] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/57347
[13:46:44] <JeroenDeDauw1>	 Tobi_WMDE: do you know what type of value you are getting the TODO for?
[13:47:21] <Tobi_WMDE>	 JeroenDeDauw1: should be an item
[13:49:32] <JeroenDeDauw1>	 sure you got the latest patchset?
[13:50:38] <Tobi_WMDE>	 JeroenDeDauw1: patchset 19
[13:51:16] <Tobi_WMDE>	 before that I got the prefixed itemID instead of the label, now I'm getting the "TODO"
[13:59:05] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Diff] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/57347
[14:00:49] <JeroenDeDauw1>	 Tobi_WMDE: just TODO, or also a message afterwards
[14:02:24] <Tobi_WMDE>	 JeroenDeDauw1: it's only "TODO"
[14:07:44] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Diff] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/57349
[14:07:45] <Denny_WMDE1>	 lbenedix: can we buy a Wikidatameter for the office?
[14:08:20] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "Removed Diff\Exception" [mediawiki/extensions/Diff] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/57407
[14:08:44] <legoktm>	 Lydia_WMDE: gotcha 
[14:09:08] <Lydia_WMDE>	 legoktm: :)
[14:17:11] <Tobi_WMDE>	 JeroenDeDauw1: currently looking at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/57407/ Are you planning to make the phpunit tests also be executable standalone like in Ask?
[14:18:40] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Cleanup of DataType related formatting code" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/57466
[14:19:23] <Tobi_WMDE>	 JeroenDeDauw1: ^^^
[14:19:42] <JeroenDeDauw1>	 Tobi_WMDE: ok, found where the TODO is coming from
[14:19:54] <JeroenDeDauw1>	 Now ought to get a better error, though still need to figure out why its goijg wrong
[14:20:03] <JeroenDeDauw1>	 Tobi_WMDE: yes, diff also standalone
[14:20:12] <Tobi_WMDE>	 ok
[14:20:33] <JeroenDeDauw1>	 Tobi_WMDE: and that class was sort of odd anyways, not used luckily
[14:22:17] <Tobi_WMDE>	 JeroenDeDauw1: what class? the genericArray?
[14:22:30] <JeroenDeDauw1>	 Tobi_WMDE: that one as well
[14:23:55] <Tobi_WMDE>	 ok, I merged that one already
[14:30:08] <Riley>	 Morning, folks :)
[14:32:10] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Cleanup of DataType related formatting code" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/57466
[14:32:15] <JeroenDeDauw1>	 Tobi_WMDE: can you run with this new patchset?
[14:32:18] <JeroenDeDauw1>	 Will ouput debug info
[14:35:47] <Tobi_WMDE>	 ok
[14:40:38] <JeroenDeDauw1>	 Tobi_WMDE: can haz error>
[14:41:39] <edsu>	 legoktm: sorry i missed your msg earlier, still have a question?
[14:42:06] <legoktm>	 edsu: nope, someone else helped me :)
[14:43:21] <edsu>	 legoktm: what're you working on?
[14:43:36] <legoktm>	 i was writing something to keep track of the dispatch lag
[14:43:38] <legoktm>	 http://tools.wmflabs.org/legobot/dispatchstats.log
[14:43:45] <legoktm>	 and needed a way to get the EPM
[14:44:01] <legoktm>	 and someone showed me the .json file your tool outputs, so it uses that
[14:44:41] <Tobi_WMDE>	 JeroenDeDauw1: damn, getting dependency errors in JS again, could take some time
[14:44:54] <edsu>	 legoktm: ok :)
[14:45:31] <edsu>	 legoktm: i should really start running these little apps like wikipulse in the wmflabs environment
[14:45:40] <JeroenDeDauw1>	 Tobi_WMDE: well, if you can figure out what kind of input is causing the issue or write a failing unit test, that'd be great
[14:45:48] <legoktm>	 that would be cool :D
[14:46:19] <edsu>	 legoktm: it would make it more stable, i'm using a free heroku project space, and they can cycle things down when they are inactive
[14:46:29] <legoktm>	 ah, yeah
[14:46:34] <edsu>	 legoktm: of course, if you are pinging it every so often it won't be inactive :)
[14:46:42] <Tobi_WMDE>	 JeroenDeDauw1: forgot to rebase..
[14:46:46] <legoktm>	 every 10 minutes :P
[14:47:04] * tommorris  spots edsu in wikidata channel. was wondering when he'd jump on the wikidata train. ;)

[14:48:10] <edsu>	 tommorris: been on it for a while :)
[14:48:40] <edsu>	 tommorris: mostly as a passenger, just watching all the work get done like magic :)
[14:49:19] <edsu>	 tommorris: i heard about it when it was just an idea, via @skud
[14:49:30] <tommorris>	 yeah, I need to apply for a bot account and pushing buttons like a boss
[14:50:09] <tommorris>	 although slightly concerned about the "you gotta use PyWikipediabot" tendency in the bot applications I've glanced at
[14:50:51] <edsu>	 tommorris: i don't think that's the case is it?
[14:51:06] <tommorris>	 it's not a requirement, but some people did suggest that one ought to use it
[14:51:22] <edsu>	 probably just because it's the most battle tested more than anything
[14:51:59] <legoktm>	 heheheh
[14:53:18] <legoktm>	 over 6million edits and counting :D
[14:56:41] <Tobi_WMDE>	 JeroenDeDauw1: ähm.. it's working now
[14:56:54] <Tobi_WMDE>	 it does not run into that var_dump
[15:00:12] <dkpi>	 Hello, I'm new to wikidate, does anyone can indicate me where is the source code ?
[15:01:06] <hoo>	 dkpi: Sure
[15:02:13] <hoo>	 dkpi: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/p/mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase.git
[15:03:24] <Tobi_WMDE>	 JeroenDeDauw1: o_O
[15:03:25] <hoo>	 The other extension developed by the wikidata team are:  https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/p/mediawiki/extensions/Diff.git and https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/p/mediawiki/extensions/DataValues.git 
[15:03:31] <edsu>	 dkpi: also http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Development/Setup
[15:03:33] <hoo>	 github mirror https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase
[15:03:45] <JeroenDeDauw1>	 Tobi_WMDE: what?
[15:04:01] <Tobi_WMDE>	 it works
[15:04:22] <Tobi_WMDE>	 have to find out if I'm doing something wrng..
[15:04:52] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "Cleanup of DataType related formatting code" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/57466
[15:07:27] <Tobi_WMDE>	 JeroenDeDauw1: think you can remove the var_dump again
[15:07:59] <Tobi_WMDE>	 JeroenDeDauw1: http://192.168.2.251/wikidata-client/index.php/Barry_Gibb
[15:08:10] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Cleanup of DataType related formatting code" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/57466
[15:10:13] <JeroenDeDauw1>	 Tobi_WMDE: huh?!
[15:10:19] <JeroenDeDauw1>	 you saying it works or what?
[15:13:15] <Tobi_WMDE>	 JeroenDeDauw1: seems
[15:13:43] <JeroenDeDauw1>	 Tobi_WMDE: so MEEEEEEEEEERGEEEEEEEEEEE
[15:13:44] <JeroenDeDauw1>	 !nyan
[15:13:44] <wm-bot>	 ~=[,,_,,]:3
[15:14:26] <Tobi_WMDE>	 JeroenDeDauw1: what did you do in PS23?
[15:14:50] <JeroenDeDauw1>	 Tobi_WMDE: last one was rem var dump
[15:14:52] <JeroenDeDauw1>	 check the diff
[15:26:51] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "Cleanup of DataType related formatting code" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/57466
[15:28:54] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/57466
[15:31:05] <tobyS>	 hihi :)
[15:31:08] <tobyS>	 Abraham_WMDE: that's me, btw
[15:31:35] <Abraham_WMDE>	 tobyS: hey! 
[15:31:38] <tobyS>	 :)I
[15:41:47] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Diff] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/57407
[15:52:16] <dkpi>	 hoo, edsu: Thank you
[15:52:52] <hoo>	 You're welcome ;)
[15:53:42] <JeroenDeDauw>	 .
[15:54:08] <JeroenDeDauw>	 !nyandata | tobyS
[15:54:08] <wm-bot>	 tobyS: https://bit.ly/nyandata
[15:54:21] <JeroenDeDauw>	 That is also very relevant to our overall architecture
[15:55:08] <legoktm>	 :D
[15:56:51] <tommorris>	 legoktm: if I proposed a bot which would just be bulk editing 'instance of' relationships based on enwiki categories, would that be approved? not using pywikipediabot, using a crazy custom message queue thing I've built in Scala
[15:57:04] <legoktm>	 my bot already does that...
[15:57:16] <dkpi>	 JeroenDeDauw: very relevant, thanks :-)
[15:57:26] * tommorris  has been running it in read-only mode, building up a list of objects that need tagging.

[15:57:28] <legoktm>	 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Tools/Array_properties_gadget
[17:38:28] <lbenedix>	 Denny_WMDE: of course you can get one for the office
[17:45:44] <lbenedix>	 is it possible to export several items from wikidata and import into my test system?
[17:53:14] <legoktm>	 lbenedix: special:export ?
[18:02:16] <lbenedix>	 legoktm: if i export one wikidata item, lets say helium, to i get all the properties and things?
[18:03:39] <legoktm>	 try it :{
[18:03:42] <legoktm>	 :P*
[18:04:40] <lbenedix>	 and how do i import?
[18:04:47] <lbenedix>	 special:import?
[18:07:12] <legoktm>	 yup
[18:07:24] <lbenedix>	 sounds easy
[18:07:42] <lbenedix>	 too easy that it actually can work
[18:12:30] <lbenedix>	 and it didnt
[18:12:36] <lbenedix>	 :(
[18:12:38] <legoktm>	 awww :(
[18:12:41] <lbenedix>	 http://lbenedix.monoceres.uberspace.de/mediawiki/index.php?title=Q64
[18:12:57] <lbenedix>	 p30 of Berlin is definitivly Molybdenum
[18:13:09] <lbenedix>	 I live in Berlin, I should know
[18:14:10] <legoktm>	 hmmm
[18:14:12] <legoktm>	 interesting
[18:14:52] <legoktm>	 http://lbenedix.monoceres.uberspace.de/mediawiki/api.php?action=wbgetentities&ids=q64&props=claims
[18:15:01] <legoktm>	 so they technically dont exist
[18:15:06] <lbenedix>	 Is it possible to delete everything from the database and start newly?
[18:15:48] <lbenedix>	 I think creating some Items and claims by hand is faster than exporting and importing...
[18:15:58] <lbenedix>	 I need something working for a Test
[18:16:13] * lbenedix  will be afk for half an hour

[18:16:28] <legoktm>	 yeah just delete the databases and re-install mediawiki
[18:16:45] <lbenedix>	 noooooooooooooo
[18:17:02] <lbenedix>	 is no "get rid of all the old shit"-button?
[18:18:00] <legoktm>	 i mean,
[18:18:04] <legoktm>	 Special:Nuke
[18:18:29] * lbenedix|afk  cant enter a unix timestamp to his nick... it would be to long

[18:19:11] <legoktm>	 :PP
[18:42:32] <legoktm>	 uhoh
[18:42:35] <legoktm>	 dispatch lag is rising
[18:58:59] <legoktm>	 guess what guys, we made it big time! http://wikipediocracy.com/2013/04/08/wikidata-is-jimbo-more-popular-than-jesus/
[19:00:57] <legoktm>	 lol edsu http://tools.wmflabs.org/legobot/dispatchstats.log
[19:01:23] * legoktm  goes to fix that

[19:02:05] <legoktm>	 screenshot if you miss it: http://cl.ly/image/3C3O280n2s3t
[19:04:38] <lbenedix>	 is it not possible to get rid of the old things without reinstalling mediawiki?
[19:04:49] <legoktm>	 special:nuke
[19:05:14] <hoo>	 There's a maintenance script as well, but ti sucks, AFAIR
[19:06:25] <lbenedix>	 what format for the Pattern? Regex?
[19:06:29] <lbenedix>	 Q.*
[19:06:39] <legoktm>	 er for what?
[19:07:19] <lbenedix>	 http://lbenedix.monoceres.uberspace.de/screenshots/gsuf0df7du_(2013-04-09_21.06.47).png
[19:07:41] <legoktm>	 just type in your username and leave it blank
[19:07:45] <legoktm>	 you wanted to delete everything right?
[19:08:03] <lbenedix>	 i'd like to start with all wikibase items
[19:08:13] <legoktm>	 oh
[19:08:20] <legoktm>	 probably regex then yeah
[19:08:56] * lbenedix  presses the red button (that appears to be grey here)

[19:09:31] <lbenedix>	 looks good: http://lbenedix.monoceres.uberspace.de/screenshots/tlnj48lx9b_(2013-04-09_21.09.08).png NOT!
[19:11:38] <lbenedix>	 now I need a mass restore for the uploaded files ;)
[19:12:09] <legoktm>	 lolwut
[19:12:16] <legoktm>	 oh
[19:12:21] <legoktm>	 your thumbnailing is broken
[19:12:22] <lbenedix>	 a Weapon of mass restoration
[19:13:51] <lbenedix>	 The Nuke extension get's an F for usability
[19:13:57] <legoktm>	 no
[19:14:03] <legoktm>	 your image thumbnailing is broken
[19:14:06] <legoktm>	 nuke works just fine
[19:14:55] <lbenedix>	 it nuked everything when I thougt it would remove the selectoin
[19:17:24] <lbenedix>	 is it possible to restore the deleted images?
[19:17:46] <legoktm>	 ....
[19:17:47] <legoktm>	 yes
[19:17:52] <legoktm>	 its just like a normal delete
[19:18:51] <lbenedix>	 I'm not an advanced mediawiki user
[19:19:32] <legoktm>	 well, good thing you're learning :)
[19:19:58] <lbenedix>	 lesson 1: delete everything
[19:20:58] <JohnLewis>	 Lesson 2: Blocked everything :P
[19:21:03] <JohnLewis>	 *Block
[19:21:57] <lbenedix>	 what do you mean by blocking? make it impossible to edit enything?
[19:23:36] <JohnLewis>	 1. I was joking for those who thought I was serious. 2. Blocking is the restriction of editing so pretty much unless I am mis understanding the context of this discussion.
[19:24:06] <lbenedix>	 lesson 2: undelete the needed images
[19:58:13] <lbenedix>	 when I enter "special-newitem-url|special-newitem" to my MediaWiki:Sidebar I dont get the correct link
[19:58:52] <hoo>	 lbenedix: Is special-newitem-url set correctly?
[19:59:20] <lbenedix>	 where do I  have to set this?
[19:59:34] <hoo>	 MediaWiki:blah-url
[19:59:40] <hoo>	 Set that to Special:Blah
[19:59:44] <lbenedix>	 "Special:NewItem" is not working either
[20:00:00] <hoo>	 have a look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Sidebar
[20:00:27] <lbenedix>	 I had a look at: http://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Sidebar&action=edit
[20:06:23] <lbenedix>	 any hint how to get the create-new-item-link into the sidebar?
[20:08:29] <hoo>	 Set MediaWiki:Special-newitem-url to Special:NewItem then do special-newitem-url|New item
[20:09:52] <lbenedix>	 this is quite inconvenient
[20:11:58] <hoo>	 for years the idea of building a gui for editing that is around, but no one faced that yet
[20:12:27] <lbenedix>	 I dont understand that extra indirection
[20:12:37] <lbenedix>	 why not just Special:Foobar|Foooo
[20:13:25] <hoo>	 I didn't write it... no idea
[20:13:41] <hoo>	 is probably documented on MW.org
[20:14:11] * lbenedix  loves the mw.org documentation

[20:16:23] <lbenedix>	 next question for my tests... do you have any short introduction into wikidata what it is, why everyone should love it and how to edit?
[20:17:06] <hoo>	 Lydia has, I suppose
[20:17:33] <lbenedix>	 any idea where could look by myself?
[20:18:01] <hoo>	 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Introduction ?!
[20:18:32] <lbenedix>	 any conference recordings that i can show my test participants?
[20:18:40] <lbenedix>	 wikidata in 2min
[20:19:01] <hoo>	 I doub it... Lydia_WMDE?
[20:25:04] <lbenedix>	 maybe 5min
[20:28:03] <lbenedix>	 i've seen this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xb08DUnPuPE but its too long and she is talking about very early mockup versions
[20:30:27] <lbenedix>	 I think I should ask tomorrow when more people are here
[20:31:45] <HiggsBosonLizard>	 And when people are changing nicknames for a joke that no one in here will get :P
[20:31:53] <HiggsBosonLizard>	 *aren't
[20:32:36] <lbenedix>	 maybe he is telling some kind of storry
[20:32:53] <HiggsBosonLizard>	 Nope.
[20:34:35] <lbenedix>	 has it something to do with: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/cc/Rock_paper_scissors_lizard_spock.png ?
[20:35:31] <HiggsBosonLizard>	 Nope :P
[21:22:10] <legoktm>	 http://cl.ly/image/0j2w01353s0Q/o graph of dispatch lag vs epm
[21:22:17] <legoktm>	 Lydia_WMDE: ^
[21:23:30] <lbenedix>	 the end of your graph is looking weird: http://lbenedix.monoceres.uberspace.de/screenshots/avexdgil19_(2013-04-09_23.22.48).png
[21:23:44] <lbenedix>	 and the timestamp is quite unreadable
[21:24:25] <legoktm>	 meh
[21:24:41] <legoktm>	 the data is more important
[21:25:17] <legoktm>	 also, thats not what i see..
[21:27:03] <Lydia_WMDE_>	 legoktm: sorry - got disconnected
[21:27:21] <Lydia_WMDE_>	 [23:22:10] <legoktm> http://cl.ly/image/0j2w01353s0Q/o graph of dispatch lag vs epm
[21:27:21] <Lydia_WMDE_>	 [23:22:17] <legoktm> Lydia_WMDE: ^
[21:27:21] <Lydia_WMDE_>	 [23:23:18] <Lydia_WMDE> legoktm: thx - why are epm high again? :(
[21:27:21] <Lydia_WMDE_>	 [23:24:06] <Lydia_WMDE> legoktm: 500 epm is too high for the dispatcher to deal with atm
[21:27:21] <legoktm>	 no worries
[21:27:21] <Lydia_WMDE_>	 [23:24:23] <Lydia_WMDE> we discussed this today and it really shouldn't be more than 200 from bots atm
[21:27:21] <legoktm>	 hmm
[21:27:24] <Lydia_WMDE_>	 ^ last thing i have
[21:27:28] <legoktm>	 my bot stopped editing for the most part
[21:27:51] <Lydia_WMDE_>	 do you know who's currently editing at a high rate?
[21:28:08] <legoktm>	 https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges&hidebots=0
[21:28:23] <legoktm>	 notconf: ping
[21:28:29] <legoktm>	 your bot isnt sending bot=1
[21:28:38] <notconf>	 oh really
[21:28:53] <legoktm>	 yeah, you need to explicitly state it
[21:29:08] <legoktm>	 except for addClaim i think
[21:29:14] <Lydia_WMDE_>	 legoktm: hmmm i have a hard time picking out the worst offender there :(
[21:29:26] <legoktm>	 i think all the bots are going slowly, we just have a lot of bots.
[21:29:34] <Lydia_WMDE_>	 mpfh
[21:29:48] * Lydia_WMDE_  wonders what to do about it

[21:30:11] <legoktm>	 is there any update on the redis job queue?
[21:30:29] <Lydia_WMDE_>	 not yet - i hope we'll have on in the call on thursday with the foundation team
[21:30:35] <Lydia_WMDE_>	 *one
[21:31:07] <nconfusing>	 sorry, how should i remedy not sending bot=1
[21:31:18] <nconfusing>	 ?
[21:31:26] <legoktm>	 notconfusing: in the addSource(blah, bot=1)
[21:31:28] <legoktm>	 or bot=True
[21:31:32] <nconfusing>	 k
[21:31:32] <legoktm>	 or bot=something
[21:31:39] <legoktm>	 bot=False works too :PPP
[21:32:07] <legoktm>	 er, that only works for addSource, not for addClaim
[21:32:11] <legoktm>	 easiest is just bot=1
[21:32:54] <nconfusing>	 yes, i see that addClaim has the default argument set to True
[21:34:35] <legoktm>	 mhm
[21:47:23] <nconfusing>	 legoktm, I think I'm sending bot=True now
[21:47:29] * legoktm  checks

[21:47:46] <legoktm>	 yup :D
[21:48:21] <nconfusing>	 wikidata doesn't show bot edits with in view history it seems though?
[21:48:36] <hoo>	 No MediaWiki doe
[21:48:37] <hoo>	 s
[21:49:53] <legoktm>	 MediaWiki doesn't*
[21:50:12] <legoktm>	 the bot flag is only stored in the recentchanges table so you can only see it on Special:RecentChanges or on your watchlist
[21:50:32] <nconfusing>	 aha, that makes sense, i see now
[21:50:38] <hoo>	 I originally wanted to write no MediaWiki wiki... but then my laziness overwhelmed me
[21:53:27] <legoktm>	 :P
[22:01:09] <lbenedix1>	 you can see if an edit is made by a bot in the IRC-Chanel
[22:01:47] <lbenedix1>	 you have to look fast... 220Edits/min
[22:45:48] <Maple__>	 This looks sad: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AWhatLinksHere&target=Template%3AWikidata&namespace=0
[22:45:52] <Maple__>	 Just sayin'.
[22:51:04] <legoktm>	 most use https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Sister_project_links