[00:00:31] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "WikibaseClient uses __FILE__ instead of __DIR_" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54799 [00:05:21] I would really like to have a make-environment to set up which tests should be run.. [00:05:38] Gah... :-O [00:15:38] New review: John Erling Blad; "Trivial" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 2 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54799 [00:17:51] New review: John Erling Blad; "Please DNUA (Do Not Use Acronyms)!" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54704 [00:35:40] New review: Hoo man; "This even works in IE7 \o/" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54639 [00:35:44] Change merged: Hoo man; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54639 [00:35:47] aude: ^ :D [00:48:01] New review: John Erling Blad; "Dialog boxes should follow some default sizes, and stay within the smallest one if possible. The har..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54639 [00:48:45] hoo, ... and the dialog is not modal but you should not be able to access the underlaying page.. [00:49:21] I can't see any reason why you should be allowed to do that, so I would say that the dialog should be modal [00:49:26] Jeblad_WMDE: That's easy to accomplish [00:49:27] Is it possible to save claims via wbeditentity using json as format? [00:49:39] Will do ;) [00:50:09] getting the error: unknown key: claims [00:50:24] Also it is customary now (I think) to add a darker layer when something goes modal.. Or gray it out or something. [00:51:10] It could be that other people in the project will say it should not be modal, or that clicking outside the dialog should be a close. [00:51:16] Jeblad_WMDE: jQuery.ui can do that all :) [00:51:35] I'll do that later, that's a one line change ;) [00:51:43] I know, thats why I'm nagging you.. Its easy to do. ;) [00:52:17] Sk1d, its not done yet [00:52:30] :/ [00:52:34] But it will be available a wbsetclaim that can do that [00:52:54] The last one is in the queue for roll-out [00:53:08] * Jeblad_WMDE thinks so... [00:53:13] i see but what should i do if i want to edit the labels and claims with only one edit or something like that [00:54:17] I think it is better to do it with several operations [00:54:42] hopefully this will be possible in the future the problem is that if i modify the label and try to save it the claims get deleted using wbeditentity [00:55:10] huh? [00:55:16] That should not happen [00:55:29] ah i see i submitted "clear" [00:55:36] hehe [00:56:15] I think I wrote on project chat some time ago that you should _never_ use clear unless you can't avoid it [00:56:50] if i want to delete a label i will just submit the value "" ? [00:57:07] or remove an alias? [00:57:14] Do NOT call wbgetentities and then wbeditentity with everything, that is doomed to fail if someone edits the item in between [00:57:49] A label can be removed by setting it to anempty string or by using the key "remove" [00:58:46] { value:"", language:"nb" } [00:59:16] { value:"something", language:"nb", remove:"" } [00:59:24] Both have the same result [00:59:33] ok thx [00:59:43] You can do the same with alias [01:00:00] Add the remove keyword for an entry [01:00:12] no wait [01:00:51] Yes, you can [01:01:30] in wbsetalias you can do the same in "set".. or something.. [01:01:39] anyhow, check the code [01:01:40] =) [01:01:44] ^^ [01:03:46] I should rewrite lots of code -.- [01:04:04] New review: John Erling Blad; "Give it a -1 while working on it.. (It will be removed at the next patchset)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54650 [01:16:19] New review: John Erling Blad; "(1 comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54685 [01:18:21] New review: John Erling Blad; "WIP? Wery Important Project? Please DNUA (Do Not Use Acronyms)!" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54220 [01:41:56] New patchset: Hoo man; "(bug 46321) Lazy load wbclient.LinkItem" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54816 [01:44:22] New review: Hoo man; "I uploaded my change at I9a03c3d974f181e8eadaa30b673e7c662033cb1c as I didn't want to screw here (I ..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54650 [01:49:10] New patchset: Hoo man; "Make the dialog from wbclient.LinkItem modal" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54817 [01:52:31] hoo, its very nice to do followups in new changesets [01:52:55] Especially if additional features can create discussions :) [01:54:16] Jeblad_WMDE: Yes, I didn't want to block the lazy load change with this :) [01:54:45] Found another bug.. [01:54:55] I think I would call it a system bug [01:54:55] oh [01:55:50] This is weird.. I have a lost change.. [01:56:22] * Jeblad_WMDE sings on "Raiders of the Lost Change"... [02:01:02] Good night ;) [02:15:38] New review: John Erling Blad; "Works after rebase, but note that there are no tests for unexpected diffs." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54479 [02:15:50] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54479 [02:35:42] New review: John Erling Blad; "I think we should follow psr-0, and not move stuff into subfolders without updating the PHP-namespac..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54148 [04:01:09] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "(Bug 43994) New Special:UnconnectedPages" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53381 [05:00:22] New review: Aude; "(3 comments)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54816 [05:00:54] Change abandoned: Aude; "let's work with hoo's patch" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54650 [05:35:43] New review: Aude; "(5 comments)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54816 [05:38:21] New review: Aude; "changing namespaces would be a bigger and separate change, after discussion and decision to do that" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54148 [05:48:34] New review: Aude; "(1 comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53381 [05:55:20] New review: Aude; "I think the patch is okay, as-is, code looks reasonable, and it works fine for me although I don't h..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54685 [07:09:56] New review: John Erling Blad; "Its about whats most important; stuffing the work queue with more work or let the slave catch up first." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54685 [07:34:16] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "(Bug 43994) New Special:UnconnectedPages" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53381 [08:38:37] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "(1 comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54685 [08:44:20] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "rebuildTermSearchKey should wait for slaves." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54685 [08:50:26] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "(hotfix) PropertyParserFunction should be non-experimental" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54830 [09:01:43] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "(hotfix) PropertyParserFunction should be non-experimental" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54830 [09:02:25] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "(hotfix) PropertyParserFunction should be non-experimental" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54830 [09:08:04] New patchset: Henning Snater; "(bug 45673) Removing "add" placeholder DOM from claimlistview" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54831 [09:08:49] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q68 [09:08:53] instance of [09:08:54] unknown value [09:09:03] how does that happen? [09:09:03] "mainsnak": { [09:09:03] "snaktype": "somevalue", [09:09:03] "property": "p31" [09:09:03] }, [09:10:43] * legoktm finds a random dev to ping… Jeblad_WMDE ? [09:11:24] :/ [09:11:45] also, what a malformed description [09:12:48] yeah, i'm trying to parse a dump and it got caught up with that [09:13:10] should be "somevalue" [09:13:51] right, but what does that mean? [09:14:33] is it like a placeholder? [09:14:49] They say here that it is never updated to somevalue [09:15:42] sorry, where does it say that? if there's documentation explaining it i dont mind reading :) [09:16:05] Somevalue is a value that is known to exist but is unknown for the editors [09:16:17] ah [09:16:21] its in the data model [09:16:24] ok, that makes sense [09:16:50] thanks :) [09:16:56] Its like you know the person A has 5 kids, but you don't know their names [09:17:16] So you can make five items but you can't add names for them [09:17:36] There is also a novalue [09:17:51] Click on the blue gear to the left of the field [09:18:12] I think it was described in the glossary too [09:18:33] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "(bug 45568) propagate claim and label changes" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf12) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54833 [09:20:04] oh cool [09:20:04] i didnt know you could do that [09:24:44] * tommorris repeats the issue he found yesterday which nobody responded to: searched for [ rye railway station ] in Wikidata search. the object I was expecting didn't turn up - Q7384993 [09:54:14] New patchset: Henning Snater; "(bug 45673) Removing "add" placeholder DOM from claimlistview" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54831 [09:55:51] New patchset: Anja Jentzsch; "Show/hide the wikibase watchlist entries server side" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf12) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54836 [10:06:59] New patchset: Anja Jentzsch; "(Bug 44536, Bug 44968) Use SiteLink instead of Title" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf12) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54837 [10:09:49] New patchset: Anja Jentzsch; "(bug 45037) show edit link only if we have repo links" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf12) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54839 [10:23:22] aude: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/54830/ [10:24:23] Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53325 [10:26:13] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Removing toolbar node from wb-claim template" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54840 [10:36:57] DanielK_WMDE_: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/54445/ [10:37:12] hash 8587c0fab1fe6f9cc03988b890cf1c1b81e7da1e [10:37:17] AnjaJ_WMDE: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/53543/ [10:38:08] DanielK_WMDE_ : seems that all changes between commit and merge of this change are missing [10:38:24] all changes which have been merged in that timer [10:38:35] o_O [10:39:18] AnjaJ_WMDE: is https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/53414/ in? [10:42:49] Do you think importing templates is a good idea? [10:42:53] I want to import but i have doubt about it [10:42:57] New patchset: Anja Jentzsch; "(testing) waiting in Selenium tests for propagation of removed sitelinks" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf12) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54844 [10:43:02] template which have iw [10:43:08] not all of them [10:44:41] besides i mean importing template as an item [10:44:46] not the template itself [10:44:51] New review: Aude; "this works much better :)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54830 [10:44:53] Change merged: Aude; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54830 [10:45:47] aude, it is in - needs merging though [10:46:15] Change merged: Anja Jentzsch; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf12) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54836 [10:46:40] Change merged: Anja Jentzsch; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf12) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54837 [10:47:04] Change merged: Anja Jentzsch; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf12) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54839 [10:47:18] Change merged: Anja Jentzsch; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf12) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54844 [10:48:46] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54685 [10:48:56] AnjaJ_WMDE: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/54685/ [10:49:14] AnjaJ_WMDE: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/54830/ [10:51:53] Change merged: Henning Snater; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53881 [10:53:13] New patchset: Anja Jentzsch; "Use the watchlist options given by the hook" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf12) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54847 [10:53:29] Change merged: Anja Jentzsch; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf12) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54847 [10:53:29] Amir1: i think there are already some template items [10:53:45] you should be able to find them with the search? [10:57:53] New patchset: Anja Jentzsch; "(hotfix) PropertyParserFunction should be non-experimental" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf12) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54848 [10:58:15] yes [10:58:26] Lydia_WMDE: I was away sorry for delay [10:58:37] the bot can [10:58:44] I must run away :D [10:59:10] brb [11:00:57] :) [11:01:50] Change merged: Anja Jentzsch; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf12) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54848 [11:04:13] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_equinox#Calendars [11:04:29] Lydia_WMDE: It's like midnight of new year now [11:04:52] now is the time of equinox [11:05:10] New patchset: Anja Jentzsch; "rebuildTermSearchKey should wait for slaves." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf12) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54849 [11:05:41] Change merged: Anja Jentzsch; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf12) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54849 [11:08:10] New patchset: Daniel Werner; "Initializing referenceview "add" toolbar via toolbar controller" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54347 [11:09:37] all, please check asap the wmf12 branch for missing change sets: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/mw1.21-wmf12 [11:09:38] as in now ;) [11:14:51] Change merged: Anja Jentzsch; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf12) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54833 [11:17:33] New patchset: Anja Jentzsch; "Fix namespace filtering in ChangeHandler." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf12) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54850 [11:17:47] Change merged: Anja Jentzsch; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf12) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54850 [11:31:40] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Improved Selenium site links test stability" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54852 [11:40:39] are there some browser stats like this: http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikimedia/squids/SquidReportClients.htm for wikidata.org? [11:44:39] lbenedix: i think this is only available for all agregated [11:44:46] can't find one for only wikidata [11:45:08] okay [11:45:37] I tested my extension as working in ~70% of the 'real' Browsers [11:51:35] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54852 [11:52:00] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "(2 comments)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53381 [11:55:07] Change merged: Daniel Kinzler; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54148 [11:55:57] New patchset: Aude; "Second iteration of property parser function [WIP]" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54220 [11:57:28] New patchset: Aude; "Second iteration of property parser function (DNM!) [WIP]" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54220 [11:57:45] Jeblad_WMDE: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/54220/ (more acronyms!) :D [12:10:59] New patchset: Jens Ohlig; "(#46126) Lua function sitelink(id) that returns the link with the element" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54666 [12:12:42] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "(testing) small fix in selenium rollback test" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54853 [12:16:20] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Removed wb-claim-container node from wb-claim template" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54854 [12:22:45] New patchset: Daniel Werner; "Minor performance optimization for entityview initialization" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54855 [12:23:58] Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54347 [12:51:42] New review: Nikerabbit; "It's not trivial. Almost every single extension uses __FILE__ here. Why is this an exception? As far..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54799 [13:01:37] New review: Demon; "Yes, but that's in instances where the extension initialization file is in the root of the extension..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54799 [13:03:49] New review: Nikerabbit; "Did I understand correctly:" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54799 [13:11:38] New review: Demon; "It passes dirname( $path ) to the GitInfo class, which expects a .git directory at $path/.git. GitIn..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54799 [13:17:52] Change merged: Daniel Kinzler; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54666 [13:49:28] New patchset: Aude; "Second iteration of property parser function" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54220 [13:50:25] Tobi_WMDE: if ( Settings::get( "changesAsJson" ) === true ) [13:50:46] New review: Aude; "@todo add tests but otherwise patch does as much as I want to put in one patch" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54220 [13:52:34] Change merged: Henning Snater; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54855 [13:53:57] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "(9 comments)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51164 [14:08:53] Is there anyone admin here? [14:10:09] !admin [14:10:16] !aminds [14:10:22] Amir1: yes [14:10:22] what is it? [14:10:28] just ask [14:10:36] I want to delete a bunch of pages [14:10:48] there is a request foor deletions page [14:10:56] my bot made it foolishly [14:11:07] just put them on the RfD page and we'll delete them [14:11:08] I know that but it's one or two [14:11:24] i mean it's not one or two [14:11:30] it's like ten [14:12:33] http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q7780280 [14:12:42] http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q7780232# [14:16:50] hello! is there a recommended description/claim for Wikipedia list items? eg [[Q6598543]]. For example some items replicate the whole "list of ..." label into the description. And (sh|c)ould we consider an "instance of" -> "Wikipedia list article" (which doesn't exist yet AFAIK)? [14:16:51] 10[1] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6598543 [14:18:48] Amir1: since they're empty, they could be reused [14:18:53] at least [14:19:00] Amir1: you can add many items for deletion in same time with "bulk deletion request" like legobot just did on RFD page [14:19:10] oh noes, never mind [14:19:49] Stryn: I think it just this time [14:20:05] but next time I'll do your way [14:20:09] okay [14:21:18] New patchset: Aude; "Second iteration of property parser function" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54220 [14:22:00] this is the last one [14:22:01] http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q7780305 [14:25:19] Change merged: Daniel Kinzler; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54220 [14:29:21] DanielK_WMDE_: $wgWBSettings['changesAsJson'] = True; is working for the existing testcases [14:29:52] together with client wmf11 as well as client wmf12 [14:32:03] we still need to test the propagation of labels & claims manually [14:44:10] Tobi_WMDE: ok [14:48:04] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "(Bug 43994) New Special:UnconnectedPages [DO NOT MERGE]" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53381 [15:03:19] Hi, can i speak in portuguese? [15:04:11] I need some help about wikidata [15:05:58] Vinicius_: Sorry I guess nobody know pt in here [15:07:20] Vinicius_: you can try and see if anyone is around who speaks portugese [15:07:45] I will try to ask in english [15:07:53] Lydia_WMDE: Importing templates are so much harder than it seems [15:08:31] Lydia_WMDE, Denny_WMDE1: Is there anything I can do to get my Extension reviewed? I worked on every comment in gerrit and fixed all Issues. [15:08:42] I want to export only category from a wicktionary page, is it possible? [15:09:18] Vinicius_: at the moment wikidata only supports wikipedia - it'll be extended later [15:09:43] lbenedix: nothing i can think of right now :/ [15:10:28] Lydia_WMDE Thanks, you know where i can obtain this information? [15:10:39] I had to do this commit https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/pywikipedia/11229 [15:10:46] Vinicius_: which information? [15:11:08] About wickytionary development [15:11:51] there is [[Wikidata:Wiktionary]] [15:11:52] 10[2] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Wiktionary [15:12:55] nobody I can poke? [15:13:42] lbenedix: we need a clear mandate by the community. enough people to say they want it. that is a minimum. this still doesnt resolve the issue of how to security review the big extensions to be used, but without that i can only offer you to run it on our test server [15:20:18] Daniel sent me this Todo list after our last meeting: 1. extension is in gerrit (done on 2013-02-20) 2. review by wikidata team 3. wikidata team tells the foundation, that they want to use the extension 4. review by the foundation (Chris) [15:21:02] and Lydia told me that no reaction in the project chat can mean two things: 'dont care, go on' or 'dont understand' [15:39:05] Denny_WMDE1: so I'm still alive [15:41:15] JeroenDeDauw: good thanks [15:44:28] Denny_WMDE1: can I send the mail re deployment branch for tonight to chad and reedy? [15:45:39] yes [15:51:56] New patchset: Aude; "Add null check for property in property lookup" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54869 [16:11:57] hello, sorry for my english, the changes on wikidata put how long arriving on wikipedia ? [16:20:56] Harmonia_Amanda: hi! [16:21:04] hi :) [16:21:11] the changes are taking quite some time to show up on the wikipedias at the moment [16:21:16] we are working on making it faster [16:21:55] oh, it's not for me, another french wikipedian keep asking me (as if I knew) [16:21:57] if you have an article whos language links you want to update then you can add ?action=purge to the URL [16:22:02] then that page will immediately update [16:22:10] thank you ! [16:22:11] let me get you a bug number [16:22:14] one minute [16:22:56] Harmonia_Amanda: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45892 [16:23:36] Lydia_WMDE: many thanks :) [16:23:40] you're welcome [16:25:53] Every damn time my bot tries to add a site link, gets this error: [16:25:55] Got an unknown error when putting data: No entity found matching ID 6865413 [16:26:02] where is the problem [16:26:03] ? [16:26:55] but there is entity with this ID [16:27:06] [[Q6865413]] [16:27:07] 10[3] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6865413 [16:34:11] finallythe problem got solved [16:34:16] you must about this page [16:34:35] http://wikidata.org/w/api.php [16:34:37] anybody can? [16:38:29] Lydia_WMDE: Do you know who can? [16:39:48] Amir1: sorry - who can do what? [16:40:23] Amir1 finallythe problem got solved [16:40:24] Amir1 you must about this page [16:40:26] Amir1 http://wikidata.org/w/api.php [16:40:27] Amir1 anybody can? [16:42:54] must do what about this page? [16:43:40] update some of documentation [16:43:49] i'll tell you if you can [16:44:09] ah [16:44:16] that'd be jeblad's part [16:44:21] he left for today [16:44:51] ok [16:44:59] I'll tell him tomorrow [17:11:46] Wikibase, Diff, DataValues tagged 2013-03-20 [17:58:17] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54882 [17:58:29] \o/ [18:01:33] Reedy: yay! [18:05:07] aude: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/54816/1/client/resources/wbclient.LinkItem.js 4th comment... what? [18:14:33] hoo: i don't see the "add links" link after i close the dialog [18:14:50] ah, I see [18:14:58] what if i go log in and want to try again? :) [18:15:24] those changes can be separate from this change.... [18:15:31] but just things i noticed [18:26:28] aude: Do we want to have all functions in the global scope? [18:26:47] (I mean accessible) [18:27:26] hoo: probably not... what do you think? [18:27:49] Well, I could either just return init so that we can do like ( new wikibase.LinkItem() ).init(); [18:27:58] or I could do it like you did [18:30:19] the first option is what i was thinking [18:30:26] the loader can do that [18:30:41] Ok :) [18:30:50] but if one were to access the widget in the console or elsewhere, then we don't need it to auto init [18:30:54] on constructor [18:31:20] and not sure which functions are helpful to be public [18:33:02] mh [18:59:56] aude: So... what should I do now? Return init so that's it's accessible or make it one object like you did? [19:00:49] Reedy: hey :) you'll let us know when things are happening/done? [19:01:00] not sure i understand 100% but probably make it accessible [19:01:14] * aude would ask Danwe_WMDE what he thinks [19:01:15] aude: What? Everything? [19:01:22] Danwe_WMDE: ^ [19:01:32] hoo: init() [19:01:38] and i'm not sure what else [19:02:21] Lydia_WMDE: Update Wikidata related extensions for todays 1.21wmf12 deployment (Merged) has been merged but not deployed yet [19:02:24] i think [19:02:33] ok [19:02:46] * aude prepares a diff next/prev page to check [19:03:04] wikidata still on 1.21wmf11 (2f86684) [19:03:05] :D [19:03:07] ok [19:03:57] test2 is on wmf12 [19:04:04] Reedy: poke [19:04:07] aude: hoo: what? [19:04:16] i think test2 is okay [19:04:18] Hi [19:04:42] Reedy: it's not critical for now but i'll be submitting a settings change shortly [19:05:00] we have a settings for allow data transclusion (test2 = true; others false for now) [19:05:09] default = true, so that's fine [19:05:09] Danwe_WMDE: wbclient.linkItem [19:05:26] We want to externally call it, but we're not sure how to best expose the functions [19:05:57] * start it from another function [19:07:43] aude: transclusion is not active yet on test2, right? [19:08:04] Danwe_WMDE: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54650 (abandoned) and https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54816 [19:08:09] or Tobi_WMDE^ [19:08:21] Tobi_WMDE: it probably is \o/ but won't break anything i think [19:09:22] aude: just tried and it seems not to be active yet [19:09:46] hoo: hehe, now I remember, wanted to click on one of those change set at least two times already and got distracted by some other stuff :D [19:09:47] hmmm, ok [19:10:27] ok, i think the updated version of wikibase is not deployed yet [19:10:41] hi, what's the status? [19:10:52] sorry for being late [19:10:52] no, it's not [19:10:58] hence no !log in operations ;) [19:11:03] right :) [19:11:09] it's staged on fenari [19:11:17] * aude prepares the setting, although it's not required for test2 or wikidata [19:11:18] ok [19:11:20] I was waiting for you gius tp suggest what order you wanted your stuff doing ;) [19:11:21] it's just required for next week [19:11:29] just one quick question [19:11:36] if we deploy the code now [19:11:42] the clients will use it too, right? [19:11:44] aude? [19:12:02] Denny_WMDE: no, they are on wmf11 [19:12:09] only test2 has wmf12 [19:12:29] but didn't danielk explain today that they are using the same version of the extension? [19:12:32] in which case the parser function, as is, is very basic (label only) and items only [19:12:35] Denny_WMDE: not yet [19:12:37] ah, wait i think i got it [19:12:39] they will be next week [19:12:41] AnjaJ_WMDE : test2 is on wmf12 core, but not the extension. nothing else yet as far as I know [19:12:46] there is only one version for wmf12 [19:12:48] if you want the parser function off, we can do that for test2 [19:12:50] and one other for wmf11 [19:12:55] ok, got it [19:12:56] and wait for next week to try it [19:12:58] ignore me [19:13:47] * aude thinks it's ok to try the parser function on test2 but up to you [19:13:52] and lua [19:14:06] aude: we should enable it on test2 I think [19:14:24] to have it tested when we deploy to wikipedias next week [19:14:34] sure [19:14:36] i agree, but is the branched version already including it? [19:14:47] Denny_WMDE: not the version from today [19:14:53] Denny_WMDE : think so [19:14:53] right [19:14:55] the one from monday [19:15:07] that is label only, right? [19:15:10] yes [19:15:11] hoo: Why did you change wb.LinkItem into a constructor? It still makes use of globals all over the place, so right now I see no benefit. [19:15:16] we can see how it performs :) [19:15:19] ok [19:15:25] we can switch it on on test2 [19:15:29] would prefer to do so [19:15:32] default is on for data inclusion [19:15:44] Danwe_WMDE: You mean DOM nodes? But yeah :/ [19:15:54] but i'll submit a setting that makes it off by default (for next week) and selectively enable on test2 only [19:16:02] hoo: no, Globals in general. But yeah, also and especially the DOM nodes [19:16:07] any problem on test2 yet? [19:16:37] AnjaJ_WMDE: no, it still has the old version of wikibase [19:16:42] ah ok [19:16:43] Danwe_WMDE: What globals (despite wikibase, mediaWiki and jQuery)? [19:18:51] if you see the whole mw as one global then its just one, but you could consider usage of different parts of mw one global. E.g. you use mw.user instead of injecting the user via the constructor/options. Or even mw.config. [19:20:00] e.g. the code is using "mw.config.get( 'wgContentLanguage' )" in several places instead of having an option for the language which can then be set in the constructor and therefore the class would not be bound to the config in a strong way [19:20:18] ok i am ready with my part - poke me when please [19:20:20] hoo: have you considered making it a jQuery widget? [19:21:42] Reedy: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/54893/ [19:21:53] not required for tonight, but important not to forgest [19:21:55]