[00:16:17] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "(Bug 44536, Bug 44968) Use SiteLink instead of Title" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49066 [00:16:22] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "(Bug 44536, Bug 44968) Use SiteLink instead of Title" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49066 [00:16:24] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "(Bug 44536, Bug 44968) Use SiteLink instead of Title" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49066 [00:16:26] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "(Bug 44536, Bug 44968) Use SiteLink instead of Title" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49066 [00:32:56] New review: John Erling Blad; "(5 comments)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/50365 [00:34:02] hey, do we normally delete requests like this? http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Translation_administrators/hi [00:34:06] Jasper_Deng: ^ [00:34:52] no [00:35:00] I think that request should be declined [00:36:16] {{done|declined}} [00:36:16] How efficient, declined! [00:36:26] lol [00:36:34] lol [00:38:19] Jasper_Deng: huh why isn't it showing up in http://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Translation_administrators/hi&action=history ? it's in http://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?action=history&title=Translations:Wikidata:Translation_administrators/4/hi [00:39:00] I'm not very familiar with the extension but it looks like these are different pages [00:39:25] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "(Bug 45111) Change squashing to trimming of whitespace and control chars" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/50365 [00:40:13] Jasper_Deng: yeah but the subpages are all supposed to transclude to the page [00:40:25] not in the history.... [00:41:40] i know. that's the problem [00:42:24] * Jasper_Deng meant that transclusions don't add to page histories [00:43:10] the extension is crazy [00:43:22] * PinkAmpersand fixed it [00:43:33] those changes to the Translation: pages are duplicated on the actual page if you use it correctly [03:05:37] Change merged: Daniel Kinzler; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/50365 [03:33:50] split or steal? [04:14:51] where are the warning templates listed? [04:16:19] maybe in https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Category:Templates [04:16:50] maybe you should change the category of https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Template:Uw-link-removal1 to "User talk page template" or something like that [04:16:55] to be more specific [04:29:30] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/LesPam is changing en descriptions to spanish but i am not a native spanish speaker so a warning template would be useful in cases like this [04:29:44] A-Class reviews – 50 [04:29:47] oops wrong channel [04:30:25] morgankevinj: just ask a native Spanish speaker to warn or use google translate? [04:31:09] Or warn in English and let the user figure it out <- most common solution [04:37:42] Why is https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:AbuseLog/4156 blocked and not allowed??? [04:37:53] and https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:AbuseLog/4155 [04:37:58] thats a false positive [04:38:04] PinkAmpersand: ^ [04:38:05] also [04:38:13] PinkAmpersand: can you modify the uw-* templates so that they take {{{1}}} as ~~~~ [04:38:35] you mean so they autosign? [04:39:27] no [04:39:35] so its functionality is the same as [04:39:39] {{welcome}} [04:39:39] 10[14] 10https://wikidata.org/wiki/Template:welcome [04:39:47] and, legoktm, could you maybe throw some RegEx into filter 8 so that it only triggers if the added_lines consist of nothing but one of the strings in question [04:40:01] oh like so you can add a |~~~~ parameter ? [04:40:25] yeah [04:41:20] PinkAmpersand: https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Project_chat&diff=8336263&oldid=8331118 [04:41:28] maybe can fix it? [04:42:06] sorry for the my English [04:44:05] huh: i don't know enough about RegEx (as we've learned) to try something like that... /me coughs in lego's direction [04:44:13] I know regex [04:44:13] * legoktm is on the phone [04:44:31] * Jasper_Deng knows regex [04:44:31] oh. then i'd say just BEBOLD on this one, huh [04:44:37] oh [04:44:38] right [04:44:40] no [04:44:40] I'm not an admin [04:44:45] never be bold on abusefilters [04:44:46] * PinkAmpersand forgot [04:45:14] im a bit busy [04:45:19] legoktm: it would match a subset of what it currently matches, so less possibility of FPs :P [04:45:22] imo best solution is just stop warn [04:45:40] I don't think the regex is the problem [04:45:44] we did, but we had way too many people tripping the filter [04:45:48] I think it's the use of "added_lines" [04:45:50] PinkAmpersand: do you like https://simple.wiktionary.org/wiki/Special:AbuseFilter/6 ? [04:46:14] also, nvm about fixing templaes PinkAmpersand, i got it [04:46:23] oh ok [04:46:40] huh: wouldn't know. not a Simple sysop :P [04:46:50] I'm not either [04:47:02] yes but you're a global sysop huh [04:47:08] O rly? [04:47:20] so you can still see what we can't [04:47:40] huh: if it's important, you can export it to testwiki and i can look at it there (and then delete it when i'm done looking) [04:48:03] it's not that important I guess [04:48:07] ok [04:48:25] because only IPs can trigger that language-name filter and who cares about them? [04:50:53] well then [07:03:15] * legoktm looks at how much longer https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Database_reports/User_pages is getting [08:46:57] New patchset: Henning Snater; "(bug 45198) Do not hide entity selector's list of suggestion" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51643 [08:54:45] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Proper "enter" key handling for entity selector's "more" link" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51119 [08:55:28] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Entity selector: Option to emulate search box behavior" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51350 [08:55:35] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Entity search: Allow random text input in entity selector" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51351 [08:55:42] New patchset: Henning Snater; "(bug 45198) Do not hide entity selector's list of suggestion" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51643 [09:01:33] OHHHH [09:01:36] PinkAmpersand: I FIGURED IT OUT [09:01:46] so stupid [09:02:07] when i stick the ~~~~ in the code directly [09:02:10] mediawiki expands it [09:02:18] legoktm: ohhhh [09:02:37] also crazy that you jsut pinged me. i've been afk for like 2 hours. second time that's happened to me lately [09:03:01] so throw a /* */ in the middle or something? [09:03:32] nah [09:03:34] its just [09:03:38] '~~'+'~~' [09:06:06] ok fixed [09:07:19] btw, i ended up archiving all of WP:RFP [09:47:03] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Entity selector: Using user language when in MediaWiki context" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51646 [10:02:02] gnite [10:07:36] Tobi_WMDE: please to review https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/51179/ <- important fix that should go live asap [10:07:59] (or anyone else who can= [10:08:34] legoktm: oh. asleep? [10:10:49] Lydia_WMDE: ok [10:10:59] thx [10:28:46] guys please check https://docs.google.com/a/wikimedia.de/document/d/1JqI_wP_nnnW-GK6rYnKJGC80lfxi9x2XUyOAnJyqMzQ/edit# to see what's missing asap! [10:41:29] Wiki13: has there been a consensus that it's ok to have one item covering both a list in some languages and an article in others? [10:41:54] New patchset: Anja Jentzsch; "(testing) fix for selenium sitelinks tests" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf11) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51651 [10:42:03] (re http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions#Q1837343 ) [10:42:18] Change merged: Anja Jentzsch; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf11) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51651 [10:43:12] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bishop_of_Rochester also covers a list PinkAmpersand [10:43:28] altough its not in title [10:43:40] Wiki13: yes, but it contains non-list content [10:44:12] New patchset: Anja Jentzsch; "(bug 44095) enhanced claim diff visualizaion including refs" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf11) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51652 [10:44:35] and what if En forks the article and the list, or De creates a separate article on the post itself? [10:46:09] Change merged: Anja Jentzsch; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf11) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51652 [10:46:35] then we need to undelete the other item or create a new item I think [10:46:45] i suppose [10:46:54] sounds like we'll have to have a discussion on it sooner or later [10:47:23] yup [10:47:43] New patchset: Anja Jentzsch; "Simple diff visualization" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf11) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51653 [10:47:56] but the problem only will come if one of the wikis decide to do it different [10:48:01] decides* [10:48:04] Change merged: Anja Jentzsch; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf11) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51653 [10:48:50] until then we don´t really have a problem I think [10:49:54] /me is going to create an article on nlwiki [10:51:35] New patchset: Anja Jentzsch; "Further work on claim diff visualization" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf11) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51654 [10:52:12] Change merged: Anja Jentzsch; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf11) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51654 [10:58:36] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Improving focusing after "add" action in statements UI" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51655 [10:59:33] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "(Bug 44940) Add anchors and fragments" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49072 [11:09:16] hey, Lydia_WMDE, do you think it's possible we've made the "add" button for new sitelinks too hard to find? [11:09:37] PinkAmpersand: hey :) [11:09:52] that's the only plausible explanation i can see for all the odd descriptions we get [11:09:53] hmmm give me a sec [11:10:16] do you have an example for an odd description? [11:14:35] everything caught by [[Special:AbuseFilter/8]], for starters [11:14:35] 10[15] 10https://wikidata.org/wiki/Special:AbuseFilter/8 [11:14:58] then the more obvious type of people trying to add wikilinks as descriptions [11:17:55] New review: Aude; "(1 comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49072 [11:18:08] Jeblad_WMDE: just one small request there ^ [11:19:18] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Proper "enter" key handling for entity selector's "more" link" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51119 [11:19:40] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Entity selector: Option to emulate search box behavior" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51350 [11:19:50] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Entity search: Allow random text input in entity selector" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51351 [11:20:00] The changeset is defunc on the client without that line.. [11:21:20] Jeblad_WMDE: ? [11:21:45] what's wrong with special item by title without an anchor for now? [11:22:01] The reason for the changeset is to be able to get to the correct section [11:22:32] Without changing the link the changeset makes no sense [11:24:04] just add the anchor links in the entity and item views [11:24:13] let's do this in 2 patchsets [11:24:43] one thing at a time.... :) [11:27:24] Jeblad_WMDE: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44876 [11:27:30] solve that then we can solve the other one [11:29:32] New review: Aude; "please use bug 44876, to add the anchor links in the item and entity views" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49072 [11:30:27] Lydia_WMDE: here's an example, btw http://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q485966&action=history [11:30:38] PinkAmpersand: looking [11:31:18] PinkAmpersand: ok thx - will bring it up [11:31:28] thanks :) [11:31:37] np [11:32:03] oh, also, it'd be nice if someone could make the error message bubbles a bit more user friendly. currently they don't even parse the text, so you can't give any links [11:35:17] PinkAmpersand: we're working on the error reporting anyway and it might be a part of it - that's a bit of a bigger thing though because there are some underlying issues in core [11:35:53] ah [11:38:36] New review: John Erling Blad; "I don't see any nasty merge conflict, it is a single merge conflict that will come in one of two cha..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49072 [11:44:37] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "(Bug 41882) Followup for restrictions for special pages" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49641 [11:57:12] New review: Aude; "(2 comments)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49072 [12:11:46] Hey! Erm... did anything happen to our search function? [12:11:51] in the repo? [12:15:28] It doesn't work anymore [12:25:42] aha, thx, entityselector [12:37:24] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Fixing path to $.eachchange qunit tests" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51657 [12:37:24] New patchset: Henning Snater; "$.eachchange: Include input elements without type attribute" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51658 [12:39:09] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51108 [13:06:01] aude: ping [13:14:26] � [13:14:27] New patchset: Henning Snater; "$.eachchange: Allow attaching plugin to every input type" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51658 [13:38:32] New review: Tobias Gritschacher; "(1 comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51179 [14:03:06] hi! how do I create a new snak by JS? "var snak = new wb.Snak()" complains about missing a specific type, but I'm not sure how to specify one before instantiating the snak. [14:04:22] >.< I am confused, why has my template not substed O_o http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Aanmelding_botgebruikers#Nieuwe_aanmeldingen_.2F_New_requests [14:06:37] oh :P [14:19:55] New patchset: Daniel Werner; "Entity selector: Option to emulate search box behavior" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51350 [14:20:56] New patchset: Daniel Werner; "Entity search: Allow random text input in entity selector" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51351 [14:35:49] New patchset: Daniel Werner; "(bug 45198) Do not hide entity selector's list of suggestion" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51643 [14:57:57] [[Property:P107]] — why only six? [14:57:57] 10[1] 10https://wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P107 [15:00:12] discussions at [[m:Talk:A newer look at the interlanguage link]] since 2008 suggested much more possible types. [15:00:13] 10[2] 10https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:A_newer_look_at_the_interlanguage_link [15:00:24] why all this were inored? [15:00:28] ignored [15:04:12] * Jeblad_WMDE shoots down core developers [15:04:17] BAM BAM BAM [15:04:38] ...thats what happen when jou write shitty documentation [15:04:54] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Entity selector: Using user language when in MediaWiki context" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51646 [15:31:47] New patchset: Henning Snater; "(bug 44674) "Full-text search" section for entity search" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51661 [15:49:05] Wiki13: what template did you use here? http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:198.86.93.254 [15:49:45] ehm [15:50:28] {{Uw-vandalism1}} [15:50:29] 10[3] 10https://wikidata.org/wiki/Template:Uw%2Dvandalism1 [15:50:34] ah, thx [15:50:51] we need to have 2 to 4 still... [15:51:14] uw-link-removal is from 1 till 4 [15:51:23] hopefully we won't need it ;) [15:51:28] well [15:51:51] I think i´m going to create them [15:52:07] I hope we don´t need them that often [15:52:19] ok. do that [16:16:37] New patchset: Henning Snater; "(bug 44674) Entity search: Prevent closing suggestion list" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51662 [16:33:20] Wiki13: do you want to try a new script? [16:33:30] sure [16:33:43] [[User:Bene*(move.js]] [16:33:43] 10[4] 10https://wikidata.org/wiki/User:Bene%2A%28move%2Ejs [16:33:46] gah [16:33:54] [[user:Bene*/move.js]] [16:33:55] 10[5] 10https://wikidata.org/wiki/user:Bene%2A/move%2Ejs [16:34:53] btw, I´m busy on catting the new and the older warning templates now benestar [16:35:21] k [16:37:52] ok [16:37:53] done [16:39:03] nice tool [16:39:56] I really would like to have a good warning tool still tough... we don´t have one at the moment [16:40:09] translating your tool benestar [16:40:14] into Dutch [16:40:28] ah, so some kind of button next to the revert link? [16:40:35] *rollback [16:40:47] benestar: Why do you keep reinventing the i18n wheel? [16:41:10] Not to mention that you could use wb.RepoApi [16:41:27] for what? [16:41:44] benestar: Instead of $.ajax [16:41:51] that's easier to use [16:41:55] oh [16:42:27] hoo: this one better? https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-Preview.js [16:44:14] $.getJSON( '//' + lang + '.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?callback=?', [16:44:16] don't do that [16:44:49] We have sites objects and everything so that you don't have to assume lang=site [16:45:08] Almost all gadgets will break if we ever introduce any non-WP [16:46:02] hoo: but why does the wikibase ui then uses lang codes? [16:46:37] if you add a sitelink you also have to give a language and no wikiid [16:46:49] that isn't consistent at all [16:46:58] benestar: What exactly do you mean? I know that WB is kind of inconsistent in itself [16:47:08] Benestar: more a tool where you can warn an user when you are on his/her talkpage with the current set of warning templates [16:47:19] if you go to any item and try to add a sitelink [16:47:34] then you have to enter a language and no wiki [16:47:44] benestar: Yes, that's known... [16:48:12] so it would be weird to change this logic on all the gadgets because they should be same as the interface itself [16:48:15] there are methods within the code you can use which don't do that assumption (lang=site) [16:48:28] hoo: please tell me [16:48:36] I would be really glad to know :) [16:48:38] The code itself doesn't do that assumptation, if it does that's a bug [16:50:44] benestar: There is wikibase.getSiteByGlobalId which returns wikibase.Site|null [16:51:34] and take a look at Wikibase/lib/resources/wikibase.Site.js [16:52:07] (You will need to add the modules as dependencies, btw) [16:52:41] but it does not give a site by a language :/ [16:53:25] benestar: Don't do by lang [16:53:40] how to do it then? [16:54:06] when clicked on edit a row with a specific language is selected [16:54:19] there is no site id given [16:54:49] hoo: there is a function wikibase.getSite [16:55:40] benestar: Yeah [16:55:57] It takes what currently are langs [16:56:05] yes [16:56:11] so this should be used? [16:56:20] But that shouldn't be langs... that's a design failure [16:56:51] well, this isn't my fault, is it? [16:57:16] benestar: Best probably would be to iterate over all wb.getSites and check .getLanguageCode [16:58:51] Danwe_WMDE: Around? [17:02:08] New patchset: Daniel Werner; "(bug 44745) Toolbar controller widget" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/50911 [17:08:18] Wiki13: where do you want to have the links? [17:08:32] should there be a dialog or a link for each template? [17:10:01] I think a dialog would be better, as 8 links (and and number may grow in the future) take in sidebar would take quite some space I thin k [17:10:03] think* [17:10:13] k [17:10:29] and the* [17:10:37] to fix myself :P [17:19:17] hoo: I am listening [17:19:46] Jeblad_WMDE: do you know where i can find the source of these langlinks: http://it.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&titles=Ansan%20%28Elam%29&prop=info|langlinks&lllimit=max [17:19:56] Danwe_WMDE: Did you see the discussion above? (About lang vs. sites in JS) [17:21:23] Merlissimo: Via API or for users? [17:21:48] hoo: the api query return langlinks, right? [17:21:49] that's the "normal" UI link https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:ItemByTitle/itwiki/Anshan%20(Elam) [17:22:06] Merlissimo: Yes, but not where they're from (wikidata or wikitext) [17:22:19] so the langlink need to by either is page source or in wikidata. i cannot find the definition [17:22:39] the link above is without h . it is a redirect [17:23:05] and https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:ItemByTitle/itwiki/Ansan%20(Elam) return nothing [17:23:35] hoo: no, didn't see that, one moment [17:23:35] Merlissimo: https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anshan_%28Elam%29 [17:23:41] It's without h actually [17:23:44] * with [17:24:20] bit i an not requesting the redirect target (for this you have to add &redirects), but the redirect itself [17:25:09] Merlissimo: Sorry? [17:25:50] What's the exact problem? languages and site-IDs should not be confused [17:25:56] the api link is posted requests langlink on a redirect (without h), but you are talking about the redirect target (with h) [17:26:33] Danwe_WMDE: Sure, but we currently don't really distinguish... eg. wbSiteDetails has the langs. as key, not the global ids [17:26:44] which is broken by design [17:28:05] hoo: i needed 3 months to request this siteid change on api, so the ui change will the same time ;-) [17:28:56] Merlissimo: The JS change might not be as trivial [17:36:30] Can I get temp "translate sysop"? [17:36:42] Just for like 10-20 min. [17:38:13] No, don't need it. [17:38:48] Can a sysop, or steward pelase help 2 sec? [17:38:50] hoo: If I remember correctly, we don't use global IDs there because we initially didn't have the concept of global IDs and local IDs. Might make sense to change this. [17:38:58] *please [17:39:08] On the other hand, you have a wb.getSiteByGlobalId and that's all you need. The info is there and you can get it [17:39:34] Simeondahl: I´m translation admin. where do you need help? [17:39:52] Danwe_WMDE: I know... I wrote that method... but all of the repo stuff isn't probably using it [17:40:06] Wiki13: Yes, you can't change interface messages? [17:40:13] I know you wrote that method ;) [17:40:18] I can. [17:40:35] I´m also an normal afmin Simeondahl :) [17:40:44] admin* [17:40:55] Yep yep. [17:41:42] hoo: Might make sense that we are not using it in certain context. E.g. in the site id selector for entering new sitelinks, users should probably not have to care about the concept of global IDs, they seem to be a more technical thing. [17:42:50] Danwe_WMDE: For now that's probably fine, but by the time we want anything except of wikipedia this will blow [17:43:19] New patchset: Daniel Werner; "(bug 44745) Toolbar controller widget" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/50911 [17:43:25] hoo: why? [17:44:27] Danwe_WMDE: Well... we could use like wben (wikibooks en) as site id probably... that's uggly but it will work [17:44:50] hoo: You might be right, but the solution for then still has to be invented I think. Just using global IDs is not it. [17:45:44] We should display the sites like "English Wikipedia" and not like "English" [17:47:00] but that's not an issues now... but it will probably become one [17:47:22] Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/50911 [17:49:48] hoo: That's right. It could still be the local keys you want to use to show to the user though. The "language" field in the sites table had also to be changed to "sites" or so [17:51:34] If I am not wrong, the nice thing about the local keys is that you could always change them and they just work as aliases. So you can choose nice aliases suitable for the context of Wikibase wikis rather than being bound to those global keys which are more difficult to change and might be confusing in some context [17:52:35] Danwe_WMDE: Speaking from data storing in the DB that's right... changing the code will still be a lot of work, I guess [17:53:06] Anyway, I'm off... Badminton :D [17:57:45] Change merged: Henning Snater; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/50771 [17:58:23] does anyone want to help me write bot requests? :/ [17:58:30] Change merged: Henning Snater; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51388 [18:10:38] Change merged: Henning Snater; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51389 [18:12:05] Change merged: Henning Snater; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51390 [18:16:36] Change merged: Henning Snater; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51391 [18:18:47] this is so longwindeddd [18:18:55] gragaggh [18:27:37] Wiki13: the prototype of the script is ready [18:27:45] ok [18:30:14] benestar: did you read my ping in #cvn-wikidata btw? [18:30:28] no, sorry [18:31:00] about 1 hour ago I PM´ed you [18:31:38] Wiki13: can you give me the msg again, please? [18:31:51] I think it is because I was disconnected between [18:31:57] ah ok [18:32:11] yea [18:32:18] you got discnnected in between [18:40:43] Why doesn't wgContentHandlerUseDB default to true? :/ [18:43:10] Wiki13: does it work? [18:43:37] I don´t have tried it yet [18:43:47] k [18:44:39] Reedy: Table updates took to long I think so somebody put it back to false before that was deployed on WMF wikis [18:44:49] I knew the first part [18:44:53] works, nice benestar [18:45:04] :) [18:45:09] 'wgContentHandlerUseDB' => array( [18:45:09] 'default' => false, [18:45:09] 'wikidatawiki' => true, [18:45:09] ), [18:45:15] * Reedy commits a change to change it back [18:45:17] Reedy: change it ;0 [18:45:19] :) [18:45:45] it was when content handler was new, some folks wanted to be cautious [18:45:48] The docs are slightly weird too [18:45:52] " * Set to false to disable use .." [18:46:08] not exactly [18:46:36] Reedy: What about changing the defaul within MW as well? [18:46:37] db usage enhances content handler but it mostly works withotu the db [18:47:11] hoo|away: That's what I changed [18:47:13] assumes default content for a page, based on namespace or for css /js based on page title [18:47:15] /what I was querying [18:47:45] Setting the InitialiseSettings one to true will break most sites [18:47:47] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51672 [18:47:56] Needs schema changes, yeah [18:48:09] yep, schema change needed [18:48:13] We still don't ahve a UI for changing the content on a per revision base within core [18:48:56] ope [18:49:03] ope? [18:49:15] nope [18:49:45] e.g. changing settings to change main namespace on wikidata to be wikitext would be bad :o [18:49:59] we're stuck with items [18:50:21] aude: People could edit the raw JSON... that's probably faster and we can save a lot of JS work :D [18:50:49] heh [18:51:12] wikitext turned into items is bad (e.g. the main page) [18:51:45] aude: Yeah... contenthandler totally blows on that [18:52:42] not the top priority but something to fix [18:53:12] I still don't like JS parsed as wikitext as some wikis still seem to do [18:55:21] hmmm.... [18:55:34] New review: Aude; "(1 comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51179 [18:58:39] New review: Tobias Gritschacher; "(1 comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51179 [19:00:40] oooh, it's a tobi :) [19:03:32] New review: Aude; "(1 comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51179 [20:09:08] !If anyone is good in a langugae other than english could they please try and translate the sentence here for me? :) http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Addbot/Wikidata_Summary [20:10:23] addshore: #mediawiki-i18n [20:13:34] How do I query properties of entities via api? :\ [20:17:39] doesn't seem possible with current api [20:21:00] kondi: that would be phase 3 i think [20:21:50] aude: I figured. How much time will it take? [20:22:10] don't know [20:22:52] but stuff like our search infrastructure will need to improve with stuff indexed in the *right* way to support it [20:23:19] for now, it's feasible to select entities by site link, so to get properties for a wikipedia page [20:23:27] (phase 2) [20:24:35] hm [20:25:04] * aude reads your question again [20:25:37] for properties of entities, maybe we have that sooner but not sure [20:26:02] we would need a tracking table like we have for site links per entity (item) [20:27:17] I wanted to use this for another semantic application. I'll just have to wait. [20:27:24] anyways thanks! [20:28:08] ok [20:28:40] not sure if we have a bug for that yet [20:29:46] i'll file it if you haven't already [20:30:49] kondi: i don't see a bug for this yet [20:33:20] aude: filing [20:34:03] kondi: thanks [20:34:08]