[00:03:52] hoo: yes experimental for now [00:04:14] as it is now, it will appear on wikipedia even though it's not quite ready :/ [00:04:48] so we'll at least need to backport an "experimental" patch for wmf10 [00:05:03] aude: Ok [00:05:18] I got a patch for that, will push it to gerrit in a few seconds [00:05:19] we can take a look more at it this week, to get it out of experimental [00:05:24] great [00:05:40] aude: Shall we show (None) under langlinks or don't show langlinks at all? [00:05:49] First one is easier to hack [00:09:02] None is okay, is suppose [00:09:17] Ok, will do [00:09:26] it'd be nice to have a link to special:createentity [00:09:34] not required [00:10:41] err createitem [00:11:07] mhm, yeah [00:11:21] New patchset: PleaseStand; "Remove dependency on Services_JSON class" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49604 [00:12:44] New review: Hoo man; "Patch Set 1: Code-Review+1" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49604 [00:13:04] https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Special:CreateItem&site=enwiki&page=Bradley%20Creek [00:13:20] in a little, (not ready) script i have on enwiki, it has a link like that one [00:13:25] if there is no item for a page [00:13:41] it populates the first sitelink in the form [00:15:03] aude: Why does the format with get params differ from https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:CreateItem/enwiki/Bradley_Creek [00:15:22] http://demos.filbertkm.com/wikidata/itemlink.js [00:15:24] it's hacky [00:15:48] no idea about the form params though seems doable to support both ways [00:17:45] * aude gets -2 for tabs :o [00:17:48] and spaces [00:20:15] aude: I'll do that link server side [00:22:46] That has the upside that we get a non-JS fallback "for free" on top :P [00:23:07] hoo: agree [00:23:26] * aude can't do that with scripts [00:26:51] hoo, could it be possible to place an ItemDisambiguation-like table in the lower half of the dialog? [00:27:41] Jeblad_WMDE: What should that be good for? [00:27:48] I don't think I get what you want [00:28:05] To see other similar items [00:28:42] It would force the user to have some form of double checks [00:29:07] Jeblad_WMDE: And where should it get those similar items from? [00:31:00] wbsearchentities and then a lookup with wbgetentities [00:31:36] We could also change wbsearchentities so it can return some props for the found entries [00:31:45] New review: John Erling Blad; "Patch Set 2:" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47033 [00:32:42] New patchset: Hoo man; "Make wbclient.linkItem experimental for now + non-JS fallback" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49606 [00:33:12] Jeblad_WMDE: Mhm... I don't really think that's a very good idea... could you compose some fake screenshots maybe? [00:33:14] KISS [00:33:35] aude: ^ [00:35:00] I think it is important, and it will avoid a lot of duplicates [00:35:30] Jeblad_WMDE: But what exactly shall I search for? [00:35:37] While testing the dialog I actually created a lot of duplicates that wasn't intentional [00:36:03] There are two ways to search on wikidata [00:36:31] One is to search for items by labels, another is to search for items by sitelinks [00:36:50] We already search by sitelinks [00:37:06] When you create the first sitelinks you do it by checking external sites, not wikidata [00:37:07] and I don't really think searching by label would give us a great benefit? [00:37:09] hoo: i'd say no for now [00:37:18] we need something for tomorrow [00:37:25] or asap [00:37:40] aude: Made it experimental in gerrit [00:37:44] Searching by label is the only way to verify that there are no duplicates [00:37:45] we can discuss after tomorrow about what goes in the widget and denny might have an opinion [00:37:53] hoo: thanks [00:38:04] Sad that I can't be with you :/ [00:42:42] take a look in a few minutes [00:50:11] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Fix API rights, that is permissions" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47033 [00:55:00] Hey, I need a German speaker please [00:55:28] Sven_Manguard: Yes? [00:55:33] Can someone help me disambiguate http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q827222 and http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1419760 [00:55:42] for the English description [00:56:07] also http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1419776 and http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q575262 [00:59:21] hoo: ? [00:59:24] New review: John Erling Blad; "Patch Set 1: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49604 [00:59:26] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49604 [00:59:53] Sven_Manguard: First two are rivers, both [01:00:08] right, but I need help differentiating between the two [01:00:29] The English articles are crap, so all I have for both are "river in Bavaria, Germany" [01:00:40] Sven_Manguard: Ah, I see [01:01:04] They flow into the river within the brackets [01:01:13] oh, cool [01:01:20] So the first one flows into the "Pegnitz" [01:01:32] second one into "Lindner" [01:01:38] * Linder [01:02:19] and so on :P [01:03:36] God dammit Jasper_Deng! Every time I find a good user to give autopatrolled to, you've already given it to them :P [01:03:51] There was something else with your dialog hoo [01:04:01] Sven_Manguard: what me? I haven't even done that many user rights changes! [01:04:07] Some messages didn't parse as they should [01:04:09] Jeblad_WMDE: The message parsing thing? I closed that [01:04:15] Fixed in master [01:04:16] Apparently you've done enough... [01:04:20] I wrote a bug about it, .. [01:04:22] ok [01:04:37] Did you set it to fixed? [01:05:03] I think so [01:05:09] ok [01:05:25] Because we want to verify all bugs [01:05:26] yes https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45107 [01:05:38] Ie that they are actually solved [01:05:50] New review: John Erling Blad; "Patch Set 1: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49598 [01:05:51] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49598 [01:06:22] Jeblad_WMDE: Yeah, I know ;) [01:12:44] hoo: what's http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fischbach_bei_N%C3%BCrnberg ? [01:12:56] Google Translate is useless today :( [01:13:43] and there are like 30 things named Fischbach on the project, so I need to disambig them [01:14:30] Sven_Manguard: A former small town. Now part of Nürnberg [01:14:46] perfect, thankx [01:19:26] New patchset: Hoo man; "Give wbclient.watchlist some love (jshint + code style)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49607 [01:21:55] New review: John Erling Blad; "Patch Set 1: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49606 [01:21:56] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49606 [01:35:30] New patchset: Aude; "Simple diff visualization" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49608 [01:38:26] New patchset: Aude; "Simple diff visualization" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49608 [01:42:08] aude: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49607 That should go for a fast merge :D [01:43:09] hoo: agree but i'll have to stop for tonight [01:43:47] :D Good night, then ;) [01:44:13] trying to get diff visualization done and autosummaries in shape for deployment :) [01:44:42] the client doesn't have to be perfect but see what we get in there too [01:45:15] Yes... many things to work on... [01:45:17] there probably will be another few client backports after tomorrow or at least opportunity.... [01:49:41] In other languages is an überkewl feature [01:57:59] New review: John Erling Blad; "Patch Set 2: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49594 [01:58:00] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49594 [02:00:59] pssst can someone change the sitenotice to not say "including the sources interface"? [02:02:06] ? [02:03:36] I ? your ? [02:03:59] why change the sitenotice? [02:04:22] isn't the sources interace working now? at least partially? [02:04:38] no [02:05:38] oh.. [02:11:40] I have returned [02:11:53] * Sven_Manguard draws blade, charges at Pink|Away [02:12:27] * Sven_Manguard slashes the |Away off of Pink [02:12:33] aww, a tad late [02:12:39] New review: John Erling Blad; "Patch Set 1: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49607 [02:12:40] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49607 [02:12:58] * PinkAmpersand ducks, and directs Sven_Manguard toward his 50-minute old deletion request [02:13:55] * Sven_Manguard slashes Q4007044 into 4007044 pieces [02:14:31] pretty hard to have 4007044 pieces of an empty item. or was there still an Italian label or something? [02:14:59] do you have a mustache? [02:15:16] PinkAmpersand? [02:15:37] * Sven_Manguard supergules a mustache onto PinkAmpersand [02:15:43] Sven_Manguard: a sparse one, yes. why? [02:16:01] * Sven_Manguard slashes PinkAmpersand's mustache into 4007044 pieces [02:16:11] *that's* how [02:16:28] * PinkAmpersand is just confused now [02:16:40] yes! [02:18:09] if I ever get around to filing an RFP, and it passes, my first action will be to block you for using URLs instead of wikilinks https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q4007044 [03:11:21] what's the Scope page's link [03:11:40] and PinkAmpersand if it needed to be a link, I'd have made it a link [03:51:57] apparently sports channels have decided that strobe lights are the "in" thing for commercials this year. Excuse me while I go vomit... [04:26:21] whoa big roon [04:26:23] *room [04:26:36] welcome Swob [04:26:49] hello Swob [04:26:49] its a redirect, too [04:26:56] how come not #wikidata ? [04:27:14] I think it's been discussed [04:42:44] Swob: absolutely no good reason [04:44:13] techman224: oc and nn, what languages are they? [04:44:39] isn't there a bot for that? [04:44:46] occitan and Norsk [04:44:48] never mind [04:48:24] ok [06:10:04] FYI all - I just moved a bunch of properties that have been /approved/ but for which the datatype isn't live yet to https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Pending [06:10:17] to keep them all in once place and not, well, lost [06:12:31] James_F: still awake? [06:12:50] Sven_Manguard: A bit. Is it urgent? [06:12:56] not really [06:14:09] just a quick question: where do I go to find the list of future datatypes? [06:28:21] Sven_Manguard: Don't think it's written down anywhere other than the discussion of outline types on the model pages on meta. [06:31:00] groan, I'll look tomorrow then [07:06:32] Hi [07:09:21] Is there already some discussion about how exactly to deal with disambiguation-page-items? [07:10:06] e.g. [[Q241775]] [08:04:33] * aude waves [08:07:06] New patchset: Aude; "(bug 44095) visualize claim differences" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49502 [08:07:06] New patchset: Aude; "Simple diff visualization" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49608 [08:07:07] New patchset: Aude; "(bug 44095) enhanced claim diff visualizaion including refs" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48459 [08:08:14] New review: Aude; "Patch Set 3:" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49608 [08:09:32] morning aude [08:09:56] happy presidents day! [08:10:24] our most important holiday :) [08:11:15] really? [08:11:20] lol :) [08:11:56] * aude welcomes any days off, except i'm not off today :/ [08:12:33] it's usually time of year for a mega snow storm, and then we get the whole week off [08:13:26] * aude back to coding.... [08:48:45] * yurik is frozen in NY [09:13:14] DanielK_WMDE: moin [09:19:16] New patchset: Aude; "Simple diff visualization" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49608 [09:30:02] moin Abraham [09:44:51] Change on 12mediawiki a page Extension:Wikibase Client was modified, changed by Purodha link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=648302 edit summary: [+4] Grammar [09:50:43] Change on 12mediawiki a page Extension:Wikibase Client was modified, changed by Purodha link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=648305 edit summary: [+48] /* Usage */ Grammar [09:51:52] Change on 12mediawiki a page Extension:Wikibase Client was modified, changed by Purodha link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=648306 edit summary: [+4] /* Requirements */ Grammar [10:08:24] is there a javascript-only based langlinks editor planned? Something that can be used on a lang wiki without hitting wikidata site? [10:18:02] yurik: it's in the plans. there is something we have almost finished for when a page does not have langlinks yet. based on that it should be easy to have what you request. [10:22:36] thx! Another q: how difficult will be to switch to the proper title parsing: [[w:fr:Title]] instead of the "magic" frwiki:Title [10:36:30] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/47396/ [10:36:34] aude [10:37:15] New patchset: Aude; "Simple diff visualization" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49608 [10:38:16] AnjaJ_WMDE: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase.git;a=commit;h=1b586e01a4b1b112b030614c635a0ded4d36a339 [10:45:23] AnjaJ_WMDE: that's unrelated to my q, right? [10:45:49] yes yurik, we are preparing tonight's branch, sorry [10:46:08] no worries, i will send an email with it later, good luck :) [10:46:24] New patchset: Aude; "(bug 44095) enhanced claim diff visualizaion including refs" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48459 [10:47:45] New review: Aude; "Patch Set 16:" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48459 [10:50:12] * aude hates gerrit [10:53:05] New patchset: Aude; "(bug 44095) enhanced claim diff visualizaion including refs" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49628 [10:57:26] New review: Aude; "Patch Set 1:" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49628 [11:00:20] New patchset: Anja Jentzsch; "(bug 44665) start/stopEditing events for claimview widget" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf10) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49629 [11:01:28] New review: Anja Jentzsch; "Patch Set 1: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf10); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49629 [11:01:30] Change merged: Anja Jentzsch; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf10) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49629 [11:03:40] New patchset: Anja Jentzsch; "css: Coloring for reference errors" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf10) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49630 [11:04:05] New review: Anja Jentzsch; "Patch Set 1: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf10); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49630 [11:04:07] Change merged: Anja Jentzsch; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf10) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49630 [11:08:55] yurik: i don't understand your question about title parsing. where are titles parsed? [11:09:02] New patchset: Aude; "Simple diff visualization" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49608 [11:09:28] DanielK_WMDE: for example, in the api, the site is set up as ruwiki + page title [11:09:45] so a search would be site=ruwiki, titles=page [11:09:59] question is, can it be switched to a more "wiki style" [11:10:02] yurik: yes, these are two separate parameters. no parsing involved. [11:10:07] of w:ru:page [11:10:33] that "wiki style" is ambiguous. [11:10:47] depending on which wiki you use it, the prefixes may mean different thing [11:10:48] s [11:10:55] we use global wiki identifiers. [11:10:56] this way there is a clear path for non-wiki langlinks, etc [11:11:00] global? [11:11:03] i suppose aliases could be set up, but why? [11:11:32] is that the goal - to have global links for every WMF site+language? [11:11:37] global in the sense that they are the actual ids of the wikis, no a local prefix assigned to them [11:11:49] New review: Jens Ohlig; "Patch Set 1:" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49263 [11:11:54] yes, a global identifier for every wmf site [11:12:18] i don't understand what you mean with "a clear path for non-wiki langlinks" [11:12:33] where would you use it? [11:12:43] again, i do not see any place where such links get parsed [11:12:45] for example "ruquote:Blah" for the Blah article [11:12:53] yes. [11:13:02] but such links do not exist in that form [11:13:21] we use title=Blah, site=ruquote. NO parsing involved. [11:13:43] which table contains the "ruquote" [11:13:52] New review: Aude; "Patch Set 1:" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49628 [11:13:52] the sites table [11:13:54] is that the same interwiki table? [11:14:11] sites is to replace the interwiki table. the interwiki table is unsufficient and broken by design [11:14:14] but is that table in wikidata-pro? [11:14:33] is that table going into the core? [11:14:34] the global identifiers we use were not in the database before. but they were used in the configuration e3xtensively [11:14:40] e.g. they are also the actual database names [11:14:53] the sites table has been in core for about 6 months now [11:15:01] but it's not used by anything but wikibase yet [11:15:14] do you know if Title object will support it? [11:15:17] the idea is to move from interwiki to the sites table completely, at some point [11:15:36] i hope it will eventually, but global ids are not (automatically) prefixes [11:15:39] they are ids [11:15:42] so [[ruquote:Blah]] will not work in a local page? [11:15:53] if you want to use them as link prefixes in wikitext, you have to declare them as valid prefixes [11:16:13] not at the moment, but we could, as a stop gap, just add the global identifiers to the interwiki table [11:16:18] (kind of sucky, but would work) [11:16:21] ju8st file a request for that [11:16:24] exactly what i was just thinking [11:16:37] i think i have suggested that before, in the project chat or something [11:16:57] i think it will be a very good stop gap solution to ensure that all such identifiers are placed into config at this point [11:17:09] hm? [11:17:15] i don't really see why [11:17:32] when and where are users exposed to the global wiki ids? [11:17:42] how would they even know the correct id to use in wikitext? [11:18:09] trying to unstick -2 stuff :/ [11:18:17] I think it will be a much better (from the usability perspective) to use enwiki:PageA|ruwiki:PageB in the api requests [11:18:43] yurik: and... having the identifiers in the config isn't really a goal, it's just a way to reach a goal (unambiguous adressing of wikis) [11:19:19] yurik: that's a whole different story. and i suppose you are right - that style is more convenient [11:19:30] i'm not exactly sure how the migration from [[w:ru:xxx]] -> [[ruwiki:xxx]] will happen [11:19:31] but it's unrelated to interwiki prefixes used in wikitext [11:20:21] yurik: please, do not mix arguments about links in wikitext with ids used in API requests. They are unrelated, and can be completely different. [11:20:25] Change abandoned: Aude; "make a remote feature branch with this and can submit to wmf10" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49628 [11:21:04] a) support [[ruwiki:X]] in addition to [[w:ru:X]] [11:21:08] possibly [11:21:28] no, definitely :) [11:21:34] b) support title=ruwiki:X vs. title=X&site=ruwiki [11:21:35] i mean - i see your point. What i do worry is that it might be more complex to [11:21:40] these two things really have no connection [11:21:41] convert from one to another [11:21:52] convert when where and why? [11:22:00] i see no need for any conversion [11:22:02] by the bots -- when they analyze pages [11:22:10] o_O [11:22:15] sorry, slow typing :) [11:22:33] give me a sec to phrase it right (and get it straight in my head) [11:22:44] ah, now i think i know where you are coming from [11:23:01] New patchset: Aude; "Simple diff visualization" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (claimdiffs) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49632 [11:23:13] if the bot reads a wiki9pedia page, it has language prefixes. it needs to convert them to global wiki ids, so it can set the sitelinks on wikidata.org [11:23:16] Change abandoned: Aude; "working on a branch" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49608 [11:23:17] is that it? [11:23:27] yes, that's basically it :) [11:23:35] that conversion depends on the wikipedia you are reading the links from [11:23:39] i should be sleeping at 6:30am :) [11:23:51] (language prefixes for all wikipedias *should* be the same *on* all wikipedias, but there is no guarantee) [11:24:02] alright got a feature branch for claim diffs that is unstuck, with stuff for deployment [11:24:03] true, and i think it is pretty much so [11:24:10] and on sister projects, it's going to be different still [11:24:26] but the bots already understand the language links [11:24:30] so, to get it right, the source wiki's api would need to make the translatiuon [11:24:30] if i had $10 for every time someone asked about sister projects and wikidata i'd be rich [11:24:40] that's actually something we could have a request for on bugzilla :) [11:24:41] by examining the "local" interwiki table through the api [11:25:14] rschen7754: you'll have to talk to denny, i should keep my mouth shut :P [11:25:19] lol [11:25:39] oh, i've seen requests from wikisource, wiktionary, wikivoyage now [11:25:48] getting a little annoying lol [11:25:53] yurik: yea - they get the URLs, but not the site IDs. Because the API doesn't expose these yet. Because it doesn't use the new sites table [11:25:54] ideally, i think we should start promoting all wikies to use a global identifiers ( ruwiki instead of w:ru: ) [11:26:15] (a bot could also start fixing them) [11:26:27] rschen7754: i replied to a question about wikitionary on the project chat, i think [11:26:57] yurik: i'd be very careful with that, and i would not ties this request to the basic one (exposing the global ids through the API) [11:27:01] but at the end of the day, i am not trying to get the sites problem resolved (diff discussion), what i do want is a more intuitive api :) [11:27:12] i would wnat support for them as prefixes on wikidata, but probably not on wikipedia etc [11:27:14] exactly :) [11:27:17] New review: Aude; "Patch Set 16:" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48459 [11:27:41] wiktionary is actually the exact example of where wikidata should be deployed the soone the better [11:28:05] hmm... i'm just worried that bots will start hardcoding weird stuff like if coming from wikiquotes, w:ru:xxx means ruwiki:xxx [11:28:51] IMO, wikidata is the MOST destabilizing project in wiki history :) [11:31:43] destabilizing in good sense, i assume [11:32:24] anyway, i see your point about the global ids, and i like the stopgap solution [11:32:32] Denny_WMDE: of course :) [11:32:37] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Wikidata_API#list.3Dwdsearch_.28wds.29 [11:32:47] i just adjusted the sitespec [11:32:56] this is where i'm going with the api for the search [11:33:06] (expand the last result) [11:33:24] i mean - just look at the list=wdsearch (wds) header [11:33:24] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "(bug 44744) copyright tooltip will now always be shown" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf10) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49633 [11:35:13] Lydia_WMDE: done [11:35:19] Abraham_WMDE1: thx [11:39:38] New review: Anja Jentzsch; "Patch Set 1: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf10); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49633 [11:39:40] Change merged: Anja Jentzsch; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf10) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49633 [11:45:53] New patchset: Anja Jentzsch; "(bug 44744) Site links table: Attaching table headers earlier" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf10) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49634 [11:46:14] New review: Anja Jentzsch; "Patch Set 1: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf10); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49634 [11:46:16] Change merged: Anja Jentzsch; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf10) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49634 [11:47:40] New patchset: Anja Jentzsch; "(bug 44744) copyright tooltip can now be disabled (using a cookie)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf10) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49635 [11:47:59] New patchset: Aude; "Simple diff visualization" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (claimdiffs) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49636 [11:48:14] New review: Anja Jentzsch; "Patch Set 1: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf10); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49635 [11:48:17] Change merged: Anja Jentzsch; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf10) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49635 [11:48:39] git fail [11:49:28] New patchset: Anja Jentzsch; "(bug 44744) copyright warning now using its own message instead of EditPage::getCopyrightWarning" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf10) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49637 [11:49:48] New review: Anja Jentzsch; "Patch Set 1: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf10); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49637 [11:49:50] Change merged: Anja Jentzsch; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf10) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49637 [11:50:18] New review: Aude; "Patch Set 1: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (claimdiffs); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49636 [11:50:19] Change merged: Aude; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (claimdiffs) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49636 [11:50:45] Change abandoned: Aude; "don't need this one" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (claimdiffs) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49632 [12:05:05] Denny_WMDE: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45116 [12:07:04] New patchset: Aude; "Further work on claim diff visualization" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (claimdiffs) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49639 [12:07:30] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Patch Set 1: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49492 [12:07:32] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49492 [12:07:35] In Norwegian we switch object-action pairs compared to english [12:07:42] That is real fun in code [12:07:49] * Jeblad_WMDE goes crazy [12:09:12] New patchset: Anja Jentzsch; "(bug 41163, 44165, 44166) autocomments for claims." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf10) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49640 [12:09:36] New review: Anja Jentzsch; "Patch Set 1: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf10); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49640 [12:09:38] Change merged: Anja Jentzsch; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf10) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49640 [12:14:23] is there a bug in your bugzilla-system for the issue with IE8? [12:14:46] it was mentioned sunday in the office-hour [12:17:09] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "(Bug 41882) Add restrictions for special pages" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49641 [12:25:02] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "(Bug 41882) Add restrictions for special pages" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49641 [12:28:41] Denny_WMDE: so, I0fd1ea5f98d3 (autocomments) is in master, but has not been backported yet [12:28:56] having it in wmf10 would make it easier for me to make a patch [12:29:09] can i just packport it, or would that interfere with anyone? [12:30:21] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "(bug 41163, 44165, 44166) autocomments for claims." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf10) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49643 [12:30:59] aude: are you ok with DanielK_WMDE backporting it? [12:31:15] Anja has gone to the doctor, so the only one working on the branch still is aude [12:33:40] fine to backport what we have [12:34:08] if someone has time in the next hour or so to make it show something nicer than the snak guid, that would be awesome but might not be realistic [12:35:05] New patchset: Aude; "Further work on claim diff visualization" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (claimdiffs) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49639 [12:41:01] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "(hotfix) Auto-comments: Show nothing rather than cryptic GUIDs." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf10) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49644 [12:42:31] Denny_WMDE1: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/49644/ [12:42:39] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "(Bug 41882) Add restrictions for special pages" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49641 [12:43:13] DanielK_WMDE: thanks, verifying [13:13:33] Danwe_WMDE: your EntitySerializer patch doesn't cleanly merge into wmf10. i'll have a look... [13:15:11] hm, trivial conflict wrt "use" clauses. [13:18:07] good [13:18:33] gah. namespace Wikibase\Lib\Serializers? seriously? [13:18:48] ? [13:19:20] we were using a single namespace until now. now you make this 3 levels deep. seems overkill [13:19:27] does this solve any actual problem? [13:19:38] DanielK_WMDE: whom are you talking to? [13:19:40] can we discuss this another time? [13:19:45] I don't know anything about new namespaces [13:20:19] i also prefer a different "tone" in the discussion [13:20:29] what is my gerrit account? [13:23:05] Denny_WMDE1, Danwe_WMDE: Yes, we can discuss this another time. And i did not mean to be unfreindly. I'm surprised, and a bit annoyed, but didn't mean to sound aggessive. [13:23:34] Danwe_WMDE: and right: your original patch doesn't have them, hence the conflict. sorry. i'll look again who i should talk to about it. [13:23:40] * DanielK_WMDE has an idea who it could be... [13:24:01] aude: Hey. Can you point me to what we're deploying today? And/or update make-wmf branch for me. Version of Diff, Data Values, and Wikibase? Thanks :) [13:24:08] or at least, an initial revision [13:26:21] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "(bug 44636/hot fix) added EntitySerializer option setIncludeValuesWithMissingReferences" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf10) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49647 [13:27:05] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "Patch Set 1: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf10); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49647 [13:27:05] Change merged: Daniel Kinzler; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf10) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49647 [13:27:38] Denny_WMDE1, Danwe_WMDE: merged backport of danwe's patch [13:28:09] Denny_WMDE1, Danwe_WMDE: backport + patch of my own stuff is pending approval [13:30:20] i can't login in gerrit [13:30:28] i am trying to figure out my password and login [13:30:32] otherwise i would +2 it [13:30:45] someone can +2 it instead of me, i had it locally checked and everything [13:33:05] ah, logged in! [13:33:24] New review: Denny Vrandecic; "Patch Set 1: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf10); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49644 [13:33:37] DanielK_WMDE: merged [13:34:07] de [13:34:09] err [13:34:20] the login is confusing... you need to use your git name with your labs password :P [13:34:40] git name = shell login name, i think [13:34:53] anyway [13:34:55] thanks Denny_WMDE1 [13:35:16] the autocomments aren't too helpful this way, but at least they are pretty :P [13:35:44] well, before they were not helpful and not pretty [13:35:46] i'll work on the autocomment stuff some more today. really want to get the api refactoring in too, though. makes things a lot easier [13:36:08] and the diff is just one click away, anyway, so it is an improvement [13:36:11] Denny_WMDE1: they are not more helpful now, the same info was there before. but they are prettier now :) [13:36:46] Reedy: we are still working on some backports [13:37:00] aude: which one is still pending`? [13:37:02] it will be mw1.21-wmf10 [13:37:04] DanielK_WMDE: claim diffs [13:37:14] * aude almost done with something good enough [13:37:50] we can also get the translation table inside [13:37:52] * aude curious about autocomments [13:38:00]