[00:00:55] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: John Erling Blad; "There were 2 failures:" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: -1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32172
[00:18:09] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "John, did you run update.php?" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32172
[01:36:31] <Jasper_Deng>	 Many permissions requests are now ripe for assignment
[02:22:05] <caek>	 'evening Sven
[02:22:27] <Sven_Manguard>	 hey
[02:26:33] <Jasper_Deng>	 Sven_Manguard: congrats on your adminship request (it's going to be closed tommorow, probably)
[02:26:44] <Sven_Manguard>	 Oh? Cool.
[02:26:52] <Sven_Manguard>	 Have they started closing them yet?
[02:27:04] <Sven_Manguard>	 I've been out of the loop today
[02:32:20] <Jasper_Deng>	 It's going to start very soon
[02:32:42] <Jasper_Deng>	 (unfortunately I'm not likely to succeed)
[02:41:34] <Sven_Manguard>	 Jasper_Deng_away: how can you tell that they're going to close soon?
[03:02:25] <Jasper_Deng>	 Sven_Manguard: stewards typically wait for 1 week
[03:02:52] <Sven_Manguard>	 Right, which would be yesterday for the people that ran on the 30th
[03:03:42] <Jasper_Deng>	 well, the stewards are going to start 2morow
[03:03:57] <Jasper_Deng>	 we should probably start loading m:SRP
[03:04:11] <Jasper_Deng>	 w/ those requests
[03:04:13] <Sven_Manguard>	 Database error
[03:04:14] <Sven_Manguard>	 Jump to: navigation, search
[03:04:16] <Sven_Manguard>	 A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was:
[03:04:18] <Sven_Manguard>	     (SQL query hidden)
[03:04:20] <Sven_Manguard>	 from within function "SearchMySQL::searchInternal". Database returned error "1194: Table 'searchindex' is marked as crashed and should be repaired (10.0.6.74)".
[03:04:33] <Sven_Manguard>	 Reedy: ^ 
[04:37:54] <Sven_Manguard>	 Reedy: I just got it again
[04:38:18] <Jasper_Deng>	 Sven_Manguard: what are you doing to get the error?
[04:38:34] <Sven_Manguard>	 I put something in the search bar and click searc
[04:38:39] <Sven_Manguard>	 search*
[04:38:50] <Sven_Manguard>	 The first time was "sherry", this time it's "Tobacconist"
[04:39:04] <Sven_Manguard>	 If I refresh and re-search, it wokrs
[04:39:35] <Jasper_Deng>	 probably a problem with one of the db servers...
[04:39:54] <Sven_Manguard>	 I decided that Wikidata is entirely too sane, so I've decided to import some weird things in
[04:40:08] <Sven_Manguard>	 let's see...
[04:40:20] <Sven_Manguard>	 http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q15148 - Spatula
[04:40:53] <Sven_Manguard>	 http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q16405 - Dirty Hungarian Phrasebook
[04:41:25] <Sven_Manguard>	 http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q9929 - Sunkist
[04:41:58] <Sven_Manguard>	 that last one is probably too normal...
[04:42:26] <Jasper_Deng>	 heh
[04:42:40] <Sven_Manguard>	 www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q16407 - Barber's pole
[04:42:42] <Jasper_Deng>	 someday it might surpass Wikipedia as the largest wiki in the world
[04:43:36] <Sven_Manguard>	 Very likely
[04:43:53] <Sven_Manguard>	 being that it'll have one entry for every page every Wikipedia has
[04:45:02] <Sven_Manguard>	 http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q16408 - bad breath
[04:45:13] <Sven_Manguard>	 oh this is so fun
[04:45:27] * Jasper_Deng  created 20 pages on his first visit to Wikidata

[04:46:22] <Sven_Manguard>	 Jasper_Deng: it's really a shame that you didn't create them before your RfA
[04:46:37] <Sven_Manguard>	 or didn't say "I'll go do that now" when you were confronted
[04:46:39] <Jasper_Deng>	 Sven_Manguard: so let me ask you this:
[04:46:42] <mutante>	 wth is or was wikilib.com
[04:46:52] <mutante>	 until recently it was a mediawiki with millions of pages
[04:46:56] <Sven_Manguard>	 now you'll have to wait until... umm... February?
[04:46:58] <Jasper_Deng>	 why were all my predecessors supported w/ <10 edits
[04:47:04] <mutante>	 but like a WP clone
[04:47:09] <mutante>	 and now it is broken weirdly
[04:47:18] <Jasper_Deng>	 and some w/o even edits to mainspace
[04:47:47] <Sven_Manguard>	 I didn't support anyone that didn't have at least 50 edits, I don't think
[04:48:00] <Jasper_Deng>	 Sven_Manguard: and why are you opposing me still, as I'm showing dedication
[04:48:08] <Sven_Manguard>	 I never opposed you
[04:48:14] <Sven_Manguard>	 I never supported either
[04:48:22] <Jasper_Deng>	 well, I took your comment as an oppose
[04:48:43] <Jasper_Deng>	 (and my supporters did too)
[04:48:55] <Sven_Manguard>	 Well it wasn't very supportive. I was hoping you'd say "I'll go do that now", which is what some people above you did
[04:49:40] <Jasper_Deng>	 Sven_Manguard: ofc it wasn't.
[04:49:51] <Jasper_Deng>	 and such a comment would've made little sense
[04:49:56] <Jasper_Deng>	 b/c I replied to you /after/ I started it
[04:50:47] <Sven_Manguard>	 ?
[04:50:50] <Sven_Manguard>	 "ofc"
[04:51:01] <Jasper_Deng>	 Sven_Manguard: "of course"
[04:51:03] <Sven_Manguard>	 ah
[04:51:36] <Sven_Manguard>	 My initial comment was "It's always good to see another familiar face, but can you please go do some importing and get your hands dirty with the project? Your edit count in the mainspace is currently 0."
[04:51:45] <Sven_Manguard>	 your response should have been "sure"
[04:51:57] <Sven_Manguard>	 and then Guerillero wouldn't have opposed you
[04:52:02] <Jasper_Deng>	 Sven_Manguard: uh, no
[04:52:10] <Jasper_Deng>	 (on Guerillero's oppose)
[04:52:10] <Sven_Manguard>	 I think he was opposing the "I said I'm going to use it for maintenance purposes, as I'm not going to start content activity immediately." part
[04:52:24] <Jasper_Deng>	 he said "per Sven"
[04:52:33] <Sven_Manguard>	 no, he said "per above"
[04:52:45] <Jasper_Deng>	 well, it's too late
[04:52:55] <Sven_Manguard>	 but there's no point in arguing this, you'll make it in a few months, I'm sure
[04:53:08] <Jasper_Deng>	 Sven_Manguard: depends on your definition of "a few"
[04:53:21] <Jasper_Deng>	 and the # of supports I currently have may be sufficient
[04:53:33] <Jasper_Deng>	 depending on when the !vote proposal passes
[04:53:33] <Sven_Manguard>	 Six, with one oppose?
[04:53:42] <Jasper_Deng>	 6/7>80%
[04:53:47] <Sven_Manguard>	 seven*
[04:53:50] <Sven_Manguard>	 you need eight
[04:54:01] <Sven_Manguard>	 you have seven
[04:54:02] <Jasper_Deng>	 Sven_Manguard: that's before that proposal passes
[04:54:07] <Jasper_Deng>	 (and no I have 6, last time I checked)
[04:54:35] <Jasper_Deng>	 Sven_Manguard: OK, I see yours
[04:54:43] <Sven_Manguard>	 You really should just speak to Guerillero. He's reasonable. Even if he doesn't change his vote, he'll explain his reasoning
[04:54:44] * Jasper_Deng  needs to refresh watchlists more often

[04:54:57] <Jasper_Deng>	 I've been waiting all-week for him to come on IRC
[04:55:10] <Jasper_Deng>	 b/c when he does it's very convenient
[04:55:11] <Sven_Manguard>	 email, he's not on IRC very much anymore
[04:55:28] <Jasper_Deng>	 Sven_Manguard: Thanks for your comments, in any case.
[04:55:39] <Jasper_Deng>	 idk why you aren't an admin on Wikipedia
[04:55:52] <Sven_Manguard>	 simple, this is my second account
[04:55:59] <Sven_Manguard>	 and I ran right after Faegate
[04:56:13] <Sven_Manguard>	 so "I haven't touched the old account in two years" fell on deaf ears
[04:56:38] <Jasper_Deng>	 But since you clearly know the policy on this, and have adminship on Commons, you shouldn't have trouble
[04:56:39] <Sven_Manguard>	 I was thinking of running in January, but now I'm thinking of quiting Wikipedia in favor of Commons and this
[04:57:50] <Jasper_Deng>	 Nah, you should still run
[04:57:57] <Jasper_Deng>	 you don't have to take the drama
[04:58:11] <Jasper_Deng>	 you can be a "background" admin who does nothing
[04:58:17] <Jasper_Deng>	 related to drama
[04:58:56] <Jasper_Deng>	 Wikidata I'm betting will soon have drama
[04:59:07] <Jasper_Deng>	 once the POV-pushers + edit warriors start trickling in
[04:59:52] <Sven_Manguard>	 maybe
[04:59:57] <Sven_Manguard>	 but on Wikipedia I'm politically in the shit zone
[05:00:28] <Sven_Manguard>	 because I supported Malleus through the ArbCom proceedings, then when I saw how he responded to the ordeal, I switched sides and now publicly back banning him
[05:01:16] <Sven_Manguard>	 I regret nothing
[05:01:46] <Jasper_Deng>	 Who's going to oppose for that?
[05:01:59] <Jasper_Deng>	 ideally 'crats should give such opposes little weight
[05:02:11] <Sven_Manguard>	 Reedy: I just got it two more times
[05:03:19] <Sven_Manguard>	 Jasper_Deng: maybe
[05:03:22] <Sven_Manguard>	 worth a shot
[05:03:30] <Jasper_Deng>	 Sven_Manguard: I'll support
[05:03:31] <Sven_Manguard>	 I still have to finish [[Liao Dynasty]] first
[05:03:31] <AsimovBot>	 10[13] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Liao_Dynasty
[05:03:41] <Sven_Manguard>	 my little promise to myself
[05:03:49] <Sven_Manguard>	 that article is an albatross around my neck
[05:03:55] <Jasper_Deng>	 take your time
[05:04:11] <Sven_Manguard>	 If it doesn't get finished by January I might not be able to finish it
[05:04:37] <Sven_Manguard>	 and I'll lose access to all my sources a few months after that
[05:04:56] <Jasper_Deng>	 tough...
[05:05:01] <Jasper_Deng>	 but you probably don't need it to pass
[05:05:35] <Sven_Manguard>	 Yes, but I'm doing it because it's a priority of mine
[05:05:40] <Jasper_Deng>	 Either way, good luck!
[05:06:08] <Sven_Manguard>	 thanks
[09:26:35] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Tobias Gritschacher; "I did update.php and get 1 remaining error when testing groups Wikibase,Diff,DataValueExtensions:" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: -1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32172
[09:48:11] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Tobias Gritschacher; "Another issue discovered by Selenium tests:" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: -1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32172
[11:04:49] <Reedy>	 Hey. What happens if you return a beer crate with a couple of bottles missing? Do you just not get the recycling money for those bottles?
[11:09:00] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Anja Jentzsch; "Make ApiBotEditTest robust agnst non-sequential IDs." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30963
[11:11:58] <Lydia_WMDE>	 Reedy: in germany? afaik yes
[11:12:26] <Reedy>	 yeah
[11:12:35] <Reedy>	 5 crates of beer bottles to return, 4 bottles gone astray
[11:21:18] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Anja Jentzsch; "Make ApiBotEditTest robust agnst non-sequential IDs." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30963
[12:03:25] <Denny_WMDE1>	 Reedy: no problem
[12:03:36] <Denny_WMDE1>	 you just dont get the money back for these bottles
[12:17:09] <Lydia_WMDE>	 Denny_WMDE: AnjaJ_WMDE: can you reply to sebastian's email today please?
[12:17:23] <AnjaJ_WMDE>	 ok
[12:17:25] <AnjaJ_WMDE>	 can do that
[12:17:26] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Aude; "see comment" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30963
[12:17:33] <Lydia_WMDE>	 thx :)
[12:18:10] * Lydia_WMDE  is trying to get too much last-minute stuff done before she leaves and all your bug mail isn't helping :P

[12:18:31] <AnjaJ_WMDE>	 all, which function on Title gives me the title without the namespace? toString gives NS:title
[12:18:31] <Silke_WMDE>	 Hi all! I'm re-running the update of our test server to see if the bug has been squashed.
[12:30:39] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Anja Jentzsch; "Make ApiBotEditTest robust agnst non-sequential IDs." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30963
[13:09:09] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Daniel Werner; "Fixed bug 41598, changing label will update the pages title tag" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32364
[13:14:19] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: John Erling Blad; "This verifies for me now, not sure about the selenium tests." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: -1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32172
[13:32:10] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Aude; "This is better, although I'd like DanielK or someone else to also review this." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 1 C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30963
[13:35:43] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "fixed broken selenium tests for search" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32365
[13:42:21] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Lydia_WMDE: poke
[13:42:23] <JeroenDeDauw>	 still online?
[13:42:28] <Lydia_WMDE>	 JeroenDeDauw: jep
[13:42:40] <Lydia_WMDE>	 leaving in 30 mins
[13:42:42] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Denny_WMDE: not sure linking to bugzilla is the best thing to do for pointing people to contribute
[13:42:48] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Lydia_WMDE: we have a better page for this I hope?
[13:42:48] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32314
[13:42:58] <Lydia_WMDE>	 JeroenDeDauw: for what?
[13:44:00] <Denny_WMDE>	 "where people can contribute code"
[13:45:48] <Lydia_WMDE>	 there is http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Contribute
[13:46:05] <Lydia_WMDE>	 but not sure that's what you mean
[13:46:35] <AnjaJ_WMDE>	 anything that is not on the list of nov 8 won't be merged into 0.2.x: https://docs.google.com/a/wikimedia.de/document/d/1k6ShnElokN6bpohNBwzljr5F0FJtLyve-9ti8xsFkO0/edit#
[13:46:46] <AnjaJ_WMDE>	 if you want to add changesets still do it NOW :)
[13:48:02] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Aude; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32251
[13:49:59] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32245
[13:51:30] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Lydia_WMDE: it's for in my presentation
[13:51:39] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Lydia_WMDE: I'll pester you about it at the airport :p
[13:51:55] <Lydia_WMDE>	 k
[13:51:57] <Lydia_WMDE>	 see you there soon
[13:52:57] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32241
[13:54:07] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Aude; "So much for this being complicated and difficult to fix. :)  Change looks good and works nicely but ..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 1 C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32364
[13:56:18] <Danny_B|backup>	 jeblad not here?
[13:56:35] <aude>	 Danny_B|backup: i think he's hiding :)
[13:57:05] <Danny_B|backup>	 perhaps went to learn arabic and korean ;-)
[14:06:30] <aude>	 heh
[14:07:10] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: John Erling Blad; "I'm not sure that these actually are failures from this patchset.." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30963
[14:08:10] <aude>	 AnjaJ_WMDE: i can't find the merge commit for https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/32228/
[14:08:13] <aude>	 but it says merged
[14:08:54] <AnjaJ_WMDE>	 me neither, just need the timestamp for the merge
[14:09:07] <aude>	 the change is in master
[14:09:25] <aude>	 he uploaded the patch at Nov 7, 2012 5:45 PM
[14:09:31] <aude>	 merged it at Nov 7, 2012 5:46 PM
[14:09:52] <aude>	 maybe i was too quick or gerrit was broken somehow then?
[14:10:01] * aude  sees other merges in the git log

[14:10:39] <aude>	 you can probably just cherry pick https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/32228/ and submit it to the branch
[14:11:01] <AnjaJ_WMDE>	 will do that, just wanted correct merge orders, thanks aude :)
[14:11:08] <AnjaJ_WMDE>	 weird bug though
[14:13:22] <aude>	 is it too late or can i request a few more backports for the client
[14:13:41] <aude>	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/32200/ 
[14:14:24] <aude>	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/31815/ fixes test errors if you run tests on client only
[14:14:35] <aude>	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/31820/ fixes important bug
[14:15:03] <aude>	 i can't add them to the doc
[14:15:51] <aude>	 32200 fixes a localisation error and otherwise the code is not acceptable without that patch
[14:16:10] <aude>	 AnjaJ_WMDE: ^
[14:17:13] <aude>	 32200 was merged at Wed Nov 7 16:57:04 2012 +0000 by tobi
[14:18:23] <aude>	 31815 was merged at Mon Nov 5 14:11:58 2012 +0000 by tobi
[14:18:44] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Looks like the test is failing because a string is passed which is checked for now and was not befor..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32172
[14:19:13] <aude>	 31820 was merged by tobi at Mon Nov 5 12:57:29 2012 +0000
[14:27:51] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Make ApiBotEditTest robust agnst non-sequential IDs." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30963
[14:28:48] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30963
[14:33:59] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32249
[14:43:06] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: John Erling Blad; "Nah, its gooood..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32364
[14:43:06] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32364
[14:47:49] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Anja Jentzsch; "Reorganized wbsearchentities" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (0.2.x) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32370
[14:50:12] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Anja Jentzsch; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (0.2.x) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32370
[15:07:27] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Anja Jentzsch; "wbsearchentity continuation fixed." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (0.2.x) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32371
[15:12:26] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Anja Jentzsch; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (0.2.x) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32371
[15:16:21] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Anja Jentzsch; "Added TermMatchScoreCalculator" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (0.2.x) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32374
[15:16:41] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Anja Jentzsch; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (0.2.x) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32374
[15:18:13] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Anja Jentzsch; "Correctly hiding suggester loading spinner" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (0.2.x) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32375
[15:18:38] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: John Erling Blad; "Bug 41891 - Fix Special:SetLabel" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: -1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32172
[15:18:51] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Anja Jentzsch; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (0.2.x) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32375
[15:20:04] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Anja Jentzsch; "Fix a small error in the label of Special:EntitiesWithoutLabel" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (0.2.x) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32376
[15:20:19] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Anja Jentzsch; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (0.2.x) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32376
[15:24:01] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Anja Jentzsch; "Include wbsearchentities" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (0.2.x) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32377
[15:24:26] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Anja Jentzsch; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (0.2.x) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32377
[15:50:58] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Introduced EntityId class to hold to methods to deal with different representations of IDs and also serve to improve interfaces accepting or returing Entity IDs" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32172
[15:57:42] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: John Erling Blad; "Here we go..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32172
[15:57:43] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32172
[15:59:37] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Anja Jentzsch; "modify watchlist query conds to include external changes" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (0.2.x) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32379
[16:00:04] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Anja Jentzsch; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (0.2.x) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32379
[16:01:25] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Anja Jentzsch; "move autocomment back to repo; not used yet in client and causing test issues with client tests" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (0.2.x) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32380
[16:02:16] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Anja Jentzsch; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (0.2.x) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32380
[16:08:03] <Hydriz>	 Lolwut: "Usually you should use Translatewiki for localization, but that doesn't work for aliases used by extensions"
[16:08:48] <Wiki13>	 MF-Warburg: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q16941
[16:08:54] <Wiki13>	 coudl you delete that one
[16:09:18] <MF-Warburg>	 done
[16:09:36] <Wiki13>	 thanks
[16:13:58] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Aude; "cleaning up recent changes code, ExternalRecentChange stuff to handle more stuff" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (0.2.x) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32381
[16:15:04] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Aude; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (0.2.x) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32381
[16:17:17] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Aude; "show deletion log instead of diff for RC when items are deleted" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (0.2.x) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32382
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11:28:43 <sumanah>       Lydia_WMDE: thought you might be interested in http://jaychesters.tumblr.com/post/35140855430/how-do-you-define-success-for-your-community-group
11:29:07 <DanielK_WMDE>  hi sumanah!
11:29:11 <sumanah>       hi DanielK_WMDE!
11:29:22 <sumanah>       congrats on the wikidata.org launch, I don't think I had said that
11:29:23 <DanielK_WMDE>  Abraham_WMDE: befor i start reading 50 mails... anything i should look into before the call?
11:29:31 <DanielK_WMDE>  sumanah: :)
11:29:35 <sumanah>       and I'm glad you are getting substantive critique & discussion of the change propagation
11:29:42 <DanielK_WMDE>  now i just hope we sort things out with tim...
11:30:02 <sumanah>       true
11:30:25 <sumanah>       DanielK_WMDE: btw do you think you will be coming to http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/SMWCon_Spring_2013 ? come to New York!
11:33:05 <MF-Warburg>    Wiki13: from now on I stop :P
11:33:18 <Wiki13>        oh!
11:33:24 <Wiki13>        im admin now...
11:33:31 <Wiki13>        I see it on steward channel
11:33:32 <Wiki13>        :P
11:33:54 <DanielK_WMDE>  sumanah: ooohhhh! I know I definitely want to! And the chances aren't all bad...
11:34:01 <sumanah>       Nischayn22: do you think you could come to http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/SMWCon_Spring_2013 so I could meet you?
11:34:33 <Sannita>       congratulations Wiki13 :)
11:34:42 <Wiki13>        you too Sannita
11:34:44 <Wiki13>        :P
11:34:45 <Nischayn22>    sumanah: Hi!
11:34:56 <Wiki13>        congrats to you too
11:34:59 <Nischayn22>    sumanah: I do wish I would be able to come
11:35:09 *       Sannita was working on an article about Wikidata, so probably missed that...
11:35:25 <sumanah>       Sannita: oh, where will the article be published?
11:35:54 <Sannita>       sumanah: it's a small online newspaper, but we usually do lots of contacts
11:36:02 <sumanah>       :)
11:36:05 <Sannita>       and they cover very much Wikipedia and sister projects
11:36:16 <Sannita>       (mostly because they always ask me what's new) :P
11:36:32 <Denny_WMDE>    sweet. let us know when it's there Sannita.
or let us know if you have questions :)
11:36:53 <Sannita>       Denny_WMDE: actually I'm translating some of the answers Lydia gave to me
11:37:12 <Sannita>       unfortunately, it will be in Italian, but I asked for an English version
11:37:32 <Sannita>       should be online on Friday or Saturday
11:37:56 <Denny_WMDE>    good :)
11:38:10 <sumanah>       Sannita: you may be interested in getting on https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-ambassadors to hear about upcoming big tech changes
11:38:18 <sumanah>       Sannita: that affect all the WMF sites
11:38:31 <Sannita>       uh, cool, thanks sumanah! :)
11:39:09 <DanielK_WMDE>  sumanah: the thing is - i may have need to travel to SF in the spring too. If I can combine that with NY - great. If there are weeks between that and SMWCon, I probably can't make it
11:39:11 <sumanah>       it's pretty low-traffic .... also https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_engineering_report/2012/October/summary is a monthly summary of the engineering report, written for regular readers who are not techie nerds
11:40:02 <gerrit-wm>     New patchset: Henning Snater; "Proper escaping for label, description and aliases" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32386
11:40:28 <sumanah>       DanielK_WMDE: I know Yaron and other SMWCon folks would love to have you & other Wikidata folks at SMWCon so I do hope you can make it, for that reason as well as of course getting to see you :D
11:41:23 <sumanah>       our tourism industry needs to recover from Sandy!
11:43:15 <sumanah>       Y'all should talk about it I guess, who can
come & represent Wikidata
11:45:14 <sumanah>       Sannita: what wikis do you usually hang out on?  We're trying to improve 2-way communication in general around tech stuff - see https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump#Improving_communication_between_your_wiki_and_.22tech_people.22
11:45:23 <DanielK_WMDE>  sumanah: yes. to be honest, SMWCon in cologne wasn't so terribly productive for me. I was able to anser a couple of wikidata related questions, but that was it.
11:45:31 <Sannita>       sumanah: mainly it.wp
11:45:43 <AnjaJ_WMDE>    anyone has an idea where the 3rd error comes from: http://pastebin.com/qYM0uK4j
11:45:46 <Sannita>       sometimes, but only sometimes, en.wp
11:45:59 <Sannita>       and from now on I'll divide myself between it.wp and wikidata
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11:46:12 <sumanah>       DanielK_WMDE: hmm, good to know
11:46:25 <Wiki13>        ehm.. I´m going to protect https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Template:!
11:46:30 *       Tpt (~Tpt@wikisource/tpt) has joined #wikimedia-wikidata
16:46:32 <Wiki13>        as it high used
16:46:35 <Wiki13>        is
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[16:50:51] <Sannita>	 sumanah: mainly it.wp
[16:50:51] <AnjaJ_WMDE>	 anyone has an idea where the 3rd error comes from: http://pastebin.com/qYM0uK4j
[16:50:51] <Sannita>	 sometimes, but only sometimes, en.wp
[16:50:51] <Sannita>	 and from now on I'll divide myself between it.wp and wikidata
[16:50:51] <sumanah>	 DanielK_WMDE: hmm, good to know
[16:50:52] <Wiki13>	 ehm.. I´m going to protect https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Template:! 
[16:50:52] <Wiki13>	 as it high used
[16:50:52] <Wiki13>	 is
[16:50:53] <MF-Warburg>	 abuse
[16:50:53] <Wiki13>	 no
[16:50:53] <Wiki13>	 to prevent vandalism!
[16:50:53] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Henning Snater; "Proper escaping for label, description and aliases" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32386
[16:50:53] <Danny_B|backup>	 abuse anyway
[16:50:53] <MF-Warburg>	 yes
[16:50:53] <Wiki13>	 lol
[16:50:53] <MF-Warburg>	 censorship
[16:59:12] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Small fix for error in ItemDisambiguation" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32390
[17:02:26] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: John Erling Blad; "Fix for the Toby-bug in Change I89c4dfdb: Small fix for error in ItemDisambiguation" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32172
[17:05:04] <wm-bot>	 Value True was stored into logs-no-write-data to config
[17:05:20] <petan>	 (sorry for bothering, quick maintenance of logs)
[17:06:12] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32386
[17:08:32] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "added selenium tests to check for security issues" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32392
[17:08:35] <petan>	 sumanah can you tell me what timezone you are in? bot is using GMT
[17:08:47] <petan>	 your first time is 11:28
[17:08:59] <sumanah>	 petan: I am in the Eastern timezone in North America
[17:09:36] <petan>	 ok 5:09 PM is GMT now
[17:09:59] <petan>	 so that's +- how many hours :)
[17:10:11] <sumanah>	 it's 12:08 pm here now
[17:10:16] <James_F>	 petan: +5.
[17:10:19] <petan>	 ok
[17:10:26] <James_F>	 Or -5 depending on your POV. :-)
[17:10:53] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Henning Snater; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32392
[17:11:51] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32390
[17:18:44] <wm-bot>	 Value False was stored into logs-no-write-data to config
[17:19:50] <petan>	 sumanah: ok I merged it with what you sent to me, should there be any other important part, let me know... I apologize, I will try to send an email on wikitech next time I plan to do some maintenance
[17:20:30] <sumanah>	 thanks petan 
[17:20:52] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Anja Jentzsch; "Proper escaping for label, description and aliases" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (0.2.x) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32393
[17:21:09] <sumanah>	 I don't have the time to look at my logs and send stuff for #mediawiki and #wikimedia-dev and #wikimedia-tech and so on but maybe you could just insert a note by hand in all the logged channels that says "we know something is missing here"
[17:21:17] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Anja Jentzsch; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (0.2.x) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32393
[17:22:51] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Anja Jentzsch; "added selenium tests to check for security issues" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (0.2.x) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32394
[17:22:55] <bstar>	 .
[17:23:06] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Anja Jentzsch; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (0.2.x) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32394
[17:25:29] <petan>	 okay
[17:25:54] <petan>	 I will do that tommorow so that I don't have to interrupt writing to disk, as I did here
[17:26:53] <sumanah>	 I appreciate that, thanks petan 
[17:40:53] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: John Erling Blad; "(Bug 41843) Adding missing qqq messages" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32395
[17:52:50] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32395
[19:00:06] <Reedy>	 Danny_B|backup: Any chance you could have a look at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41900 please? It's breaking XML dumps for eswiki
[19:02:30] <Danny_B|backup>	 Reedy: did you mean Denny_WMDE ?
[19:02:51] <Reedy>	 I meant DanielK_WMDE
[19:02:52] <Reedy>	 lol
[19:02:54] <Reedy>	 Sorry
[19:03:07] <DanielK_WMDE>	 hm?
[19:03:45] <DanielK_WMDE>	 Reedy: i'm on a very slow hotel network, so looking at *anything* is painful
[19:03:50] <Reedy>	 haha
[19:03:53] <Reedy>	 I feel your pain
[19:03:59] * DanielK_WMDE  is looking for food in utrecht, fancy websites with lots of images don't help

[19:04:02] <Reedy>	 I keep getting kicked from my bouncer by hotel networks
[19:04:07] <DanielK_WMDE>	 anyway, will have a look
[19:04:20] <Reedy>	 Thanks
[19:05:35] <DanielK_WMDE>	 Reedy: first guess from the stack trace: there's a broken revision. it tries to load it from ES or something and gets null. then tries to turn it into a TextContent object. and dies.
[19:06:06] <DanielK_WMDE>	 Reedy: i have a change sitting on my harddrive that shouldfix several places where something like this can happen for broken or deleted revisions.
[19:06:13] <DanielK_WMDE>	 will submit it tonight or tomorrow
[19:06:14] <Reedy>	 awesome
[19:06:17] <DanielK_WMDE>	 (probably tomorrow)
[19:09:42] <DanielK_WMDE>	 Reedy: it's worse... revision actually checks is_null( $text ). But buess what getRevisionText returns on failure...
[19:09:50] <Reedy>	 wheeee
[19:09:53] <DanielK_WMDE>	 ;)
[19:09:53] <Reedy>	 Awesome
[19:10:28] <DanielK_WMDE>	 non-string return values from loadText is undocumented, btw
[19:10:48] * DanielK_WMDE  is fixing that in his big "oh noes content may be null" patch

[19:10:58] <DanielK_WMDE>	 well, not that big. reasonable
[19:11:05] <DanielK_WMDE>	 need to fix some wonkey test cases first though
[19:11:07] <DanielK_WMDE>	 probably tomorrow
[20:43:59] <Merlissimo>	 test repository is down
[20:44:59] <Merlissimo>	 http://wikidata-test-repo.wikimedia.de/
[20:59:33] <Merlissimo>	 Reedy: the php parser seems to be broken on some systems. like test repo, but also e.g. http://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/highlight.php?file=InitialiseSettings.php
[21:00:20] <Merlissimo>	 i'll switch to -operations
[21:11:56] <Merlissimo>	 jeblad_WMDE / Lydia_WMDE: you know that all passwords used at test wiki installation are readable?
[21:12:18] <jeblad_WMDE>	 what?
[21:13:56] <Merlissimo>	 no php parser is used, so raw code is send to clients since about 50 minutes
[22:32:54] <Lydia_WMDE>	 Merlissimo: meh
[22:32:57] <Lydia_WMDE>	 thx for the note
[22:33:00] <Lydia_WMDE>	 aude: ^
[22:33:04] <Lydia_WMDE>	 can you fix it?
[22:33:17] <Lydia_WMDE>	 or DanielK_WMDE ^
[22:33:29] <DanielK_WMDE>	 hm?
[22:33:46] <Merlissimo>	 Lydia_WMDE: jeblad already talked to me, techs and labs ops
[22:33:49] <DanielK_WMDE>	 i don't have Merlissimo's stuff in the backlog
[22:33:58] <Lydia_WMDE>	 Merlissimo: ok thanks!
[22:34:25] <Lydia_WMDE>	 DanielK_WMDE: passwords and stuff was visible on the test client
[22:34:49] <Merlissimo>	 DanielK_WMDE: php parser at testwiki repository was disabled. so wiki was not available and i could read e.g. localsetting.php in raw code including all passwords
[22:36:19] <DanielK_WMDE>	 Lydia_WMDE, Merlissimo: they only semi-critical thing in LocalSettings is the DB password (and the squid purge secret, which we don't use)
[22:36:44] <DanielK_WMDE>	 I suggest to change the DB password, for good measure. even though the db isn't accessible from the outside anyway. i hope.
[22:37:06] <Merlissimo>	 DanielK_WMDE: yes, but sth. like this should not happen
[22:37:10] <DanielK_WMDE>	 Merlissimo: or do you know  of more "all passwords"?
[22:37:17] <DanielK_WMDE>	 yes, I agree
[22:37:35] <DanielK_WMDE>	 someone must have been playing with the config
[22:37:46] <DanielK_WMDE>	 or puppet pulled in a bad version of something
[22:39:08] <Merlissimo>	 i told jeblad the exact time of my bot errors, so that you should be able to find the cause in the server log
[22:39:47] <DanielK_WMDE>	 if php was disabled, i don't think ther ewill be anything in the server logs
[22:39:54] <DanielK_WMDE>	 apache was happily serving static files
[22:41:40] <Merlissimo>	 i don't know the cause, but if i must have a guess i'll would check if an ubuntu update was done at this time.
[22:44:20] <Merlissimo>	 maybe a new php parser was installed and the old one removed (now parser was missing and code not parsed) and at the end of the update apache was restarted (time when wiki as back)
[22:58:38] <maurelio>	 Hm, hi! - I can't edit at wikidata.
[23:35:58] <Reedy>	 Is it still broken or whatever?
[23:38:34] <Sven_Manguard>	 SvenDowideit, hello. Jasper_Deng_away told me someone else with the name Sven was about.