[00:00:08] ? [00:00:23] there is no "edit" link [00:01:20] Danny_B|backup: There is an edit link for me. What page/browser? [00:01:47] [[Fanta]] (lang cs) ff 16,0,2 wxp [00:01:47] 10[11] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Fanta [00:02:12] Hey, That's one of my articles! [00:02:17] [[w:WP:OWN]] [00:02:18] 10[12] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WP:OWN [00:02:27] You can't link like that [00:02:29] You need the Q [00:02:36] stupid bot [00:02:47] * PiRSquared guesses -> Q9935 [00:03:13] yes [00:03:25] There's no description set for cs [00:03:29] i deleted that [00:03:40] via "undo" link [00:03:54] but there was no way how to *edit* it [00:04:01] neither is the way how to edit the label [00:04:09] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q9935?uselang=cs <- there's an input box for me [00:04:39] on firefox 16.0.2 [00:05:09] PiRSquared: now it is, see above [00:05:09] I haven't updated to 10.0.2 yet [00:05:15] but there is no way how to edit the label [00:05:16] 16* [00:05:40] is there any "autoconfirmed" restriction? [00:05:56] that is the only thing which comes to my mind [00:06:10] i can't edit interwikis [00:06:24] i can't edit labels and descriptions (just add) [00:06:31] i can edit regular pages though [00:10:00] can somebody post a screenshot of his ui on Q9935 in setlang=cs ? thanks [00:10:06] or any other page actually [00:10:11] i can't edit any [00:14:49] WFM [00:17:15] not for me at all [00:17:45] works as anon [00:17:45] https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q9935&diff=349242&oldid=349222 [00:21:18] Reedy: http://wiki.wz.cz/images/no-edit-on-wikidata.png [00:21:42] Change on 12mediawiki a page Extension:Wikibase was modified, changed by Danwe link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=601811 edit summary: [00:21:42] checked your js console? [00:22:26] no js errors [00:22:31] just some css warnings [00:23:11] slurpinterwiki is not working anymore? [00:23:26] (oh god) [00:23:34] Reedy: ^^ [00:24:00] Danny_B|backup: Did you follow the usual steps yet? Tried another browser? [00:24:16] o_0 [00:24:25] Sannita: link looks to have disappeared.. [00:24:32] Didn't they rename hte API [00:24:40] or is that still in gerrit? [00:24:40] Reedy: yep [00:24:45] And no TPT [00:24:54] well, crap [00:26:01] Hmm [00:26:08] it's there for me in another browser [00:26:27] http://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q12478&diff=349280&oldid=349278 [00:26:39] that sshot is from ff [00:26:55] ie seems to show just a little bit more but no edit links at all again [00:27:01] ie sucls [00:27:07] *sucks [00:27:11] Danny_B|backup: Have you tried login out? [00:27:12] i know [00:27:22] Reedy: yes, yes, yes [00:28:00] still got login problems on Firefox [00:30:52] great, Chrome doesn't show any link, and FF doesn't let me login [00:31:29] I think I'll just give up for tonight [00:32:38] hmm, as anonymous i see edit | remove [00:33:22] and logged in, i don't see anything again [00:37:52] any idea what could cause it? [00:38:07] what else to check [00:38:12] i've done all usual debug checks [00:40:58] Running a VirtualBox instance over forwarded X with ssh is kinda slow... [00:41:38] Noooo, there's articles with no enwiki article! [00:45:23] Ahh, another improvement for Tpt [00:46:30] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Sannita/Maria_Moors_Cabot_Prize there are lots of articles with no enwiki links in this list [00:51:15] OMG! i found the cause [00:51:46] in prefs i have showing of [edit] links off [00:52:07] this is definitely serious mistake in ui design [00:58:10] Log a bug? :p [01:02:55] done in the meantime [01:03:00] now working on hack [01:03:32] | Data Base Name | Data Base Size in GB | [01:03:32] +----------------+----------------------+ [01:03:32] | wikidatawiki | 0.845927327871 | [01:07:09] * Sannita shivers thinking of what will happen on Wikidata on U.S. Presidential elections in 2016... [01:07:38] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "DO NOT SUBMIT" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32172 [01:13:09] I've just broken down the numbers [01:13:33] The database size should be quite a bit smaller, 0.19G is search stuff in mysql [01:13:38] So that's like 25% to go when we get lucene fixed etcd [01:15:42] revision and recentchanges are 0.14G each [01:17:00] * Danny_B|backup thought that wmf/wmde employs somebody for ui coding who checks all this stuff or qa/bugtester... :-/ [01:17:27] this couldn't pass through the very first step of testing if the procedure was correct [01:18:50] Most normal people don't set that preference ;) [01:24:09] bullshit :-P [01:24:37] We should remove it... [01:24:49] probably already in gerrit :P [01:26:39] heh [01:26:41] Ask Chad nicely [01:32:21] rather remove the crazy ? for missing pages (instead of red) [01:41:26] Danny_B|backup: Did you really just create a gadget to workaround htis?! [01:41:55] yes of course [01:42:08] -.- [01:42:20] anything wrong? [01:42:20] Can't people just disable this... [01:42:25] why? [01:42:42] section edit links are actually evil [01:43:21] ... [01:44:42] IMO the workaround for this is to disable the preference and not to enable a gadget... [01:45:06] this preference is bad anyway... probably one of those which are hacked into the resource loader [01:45:27] mm [01:45:40] There'd be good reason to disable it on wikidata [01:46:10] yep, but a gadget definitly isn't the solution... although we might could add a gadget to remove edit links properly [01:46:25] OK, should IPs be allowed to vote on permissions requests? [01:46:26] but gadgets which unbreak things are a horrible misconception [01:46:47] Are they anywhere? [01:46:55] Is it just a user who forgot to login? [01:47:04] hoo: horrible misconception was the totally messed up ui code design which caused this [01:47:25] and that nobody done the testing [01:47:33] Danny_B|backup: Complain to the wikidata guys then, but making up gadgets which workaround things IMO isn't a good idea [01:47:41] it has been tested [01:47:47] Reedy: yes, someone who just forgot [01:47:47] it was open for testing for ages [01:47:49] obviously not [01:48:09] Those preferences are bad [01:48:09] hoo: agreed. Also, navigation pop-ups are sorely missed.... [01:48:45] hoo: until they fix the code, the gadget will help to people, don't you think? when they will fix the code, the gadget can simply go [01:49:40] That's indeed one of the evil preferences from ResourceLoaderUserCSSPrefsModule.php which could easily be turned into a gadget [01:50:23] Reedy: Is there a way we can disable the pref on wikidatawiki using config for now? [01:50:25] Yeah [01:50:28] 'editsection' it is [01:50:32] Isn't there a global to disable prefs? [01:50:38] IIRC [01:50:38] I think there is [01:51:00] $wgHiddenPrefs [01:51:07] exaclty [01:51:14] What am I doing? [01:52:46] Reedy: In commonSettings we already have a hack for minodefault on en... should I do it there? Or will you? [01:53:36] You can :p [01:53:54] Needs tidying up, but should be fine... [01:54:20] $wgHiddenPrefs = array_merge( $wgHiddenPrefs, $wmgHiddenPrefs ); [01:54:20] or something [01:54:23] doesn't need doing now [01:55:44] Danny_B|backup: Do you have the link to the bug again? [01:55:52] why do you try to "fix" the messed ui code design by disabling the pref? [01:56:09] Because that's the least uggly way to go [01:56:21] unless you are up to fixing wikibase_repo right away [01:56:39] * uggliest [01:57:12] no, that's "we abuse our access to config files" way to do it [01:57:36] bear in mind that there are more than main namespace [01:57:45] nowai [01:58:06] There's now another Kennedy in national politics [01:58:06] Danny_B|backup: Feel free to add a gadget for that [01:58:07] that's acutally what should be a gadget not the other way round [01:58:14] so because of one poorely deisgned namespace you're going to remove the preference for all remaining? [01:58:27] exactly [01:58:29] hoo: no. the right way is to fix the code [01:58:51] Danny_B|backup: The right way is to remove this preference [01:59:06] and probably disable the pref in the extension code [01:59:15] you never explained why [01:59:28] why what? [01:59:41] you just say it's the correct way. but no arguments given [02:04:16] Danny_B|backup: What exactly are you talking about? The workaround? [02:04:30] Reedy: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32179 [02:14:22] Danny_B|backup: Furthermore you probably shouldn't create gadgets without consensus... user scripts are working well enough [02:15:49] Danny_B|backup: There's btw on more user except of you who got this pref. set atm [02:15:59] mysql> SELECT COUNT(*) FROM user_properties_anonym WHERE up_property = 'editsection' AND up_value = 0; [02:15:59] 2 [02:16:08] there is no such policy anywhere. gadgets are optional. [02:16:29] obviously. because if they found out that the ui is broken, they turned it back [02:17:16] yes and what's wrong with that till we ahve a fix? [02:20:28] and what's actually good with it? as i said above - you never mentioned any argument why is your "solution" better than the current workaround [02:20:37] Danny_B|backup: What about this... you just put those styles in the common.css kill the gadget and this "done" [02:20:57] I don't see a reason actually have this broken [02:21:12] * to actually [02:22:41] Cause having a gadget that unbreaks things IMO still is :/ [02:23:16] Danny_B|backup: ?? [02:26:24] while gadgets are optional, common.css is mandatory for everybody. *that* needs consensus to be edited. and that's why i did the gadget. of course my first thoughts were to edit global stylesheet. [02:26:27] also - i created the gadget so the bug is reproducible. if it was in common.css, nobody would be able to reproduce the bug, because everybody would see the links so they would close it as wfm [02:26:44] Well, do you mind if I edit common.css then [02:27:19] there's absutley no reason to leave this broken... there's a demo system for testing [02:27:25] first of all tell me what's wrong on the gadget? technically. [02:27:39] Nothing... but the user has to enable it to have smth. fixed [02:27:44] so why don't we fix it per default? [02:27:49] I don't get htis [02:28:27] (btw i totally agree that it should be by default fixed, but i wrote the reasons why i haven't done that) [02:28:30] if you think those reasons are not that serious, let's fix it in common.css then [02:28:41] anything but removing the pref is good solution :o))) [02:28:55] I'll do it in the common.css now [02:28:59] if anyone minds... blame me [02:29:26] copy the gadget css [02:37:39] hoo1: hoo which one should i use now? [02:37:54] Danny_B|backup: mhm? Maybe I missed smth... lost connection [02:38:15] that's why i'm asking ;-) [02:38:32] wanna /nick yourself back to hoo? [02:38:40] I've updated the bug and all wiki pages... so what's left [02:38:46] nah, I'm about to go to bed [04:15:04] * Hazard-SJ says hello [04:16:01] * PiRSquared says Obama is the new (projected) winner [04:20:05] Yes [04:20:27] NBC and CBS have called it for him [04:20:30] CNN and ABC have not [04:21:01] labelLister Update : You can now edit label,description and aliases at the same time whithout saving several time [04:21:04] Still, he's almost surely got it [04:25:32] President_Sven: http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/2012/results [04:25:36] Hey Hazard-SJ [04:25:45] PiRSquared: Clearly a neutral source... [04:26:28] "The Huffington Post was launched on May 9, 2005 and Arianna Huffington has stated that its goal is to go beyond the traditional liberal/left and conservative/right divide in American politics and news media." [04:26:43] Right [04:26:56] They're pretty far left, [04:26:58] but whatever [04:27:00] President_Sven: I want consensus to run my archive bot :( [04:27:04] ABC has called for Obama [04:27:11] All major networks have called Obama [04:27:11] There you go [04:30:48] President_Sven: And most minor networks? [04:31:10] Hazard-SJ: who cares? They don't have the resources to cover it the way the majors can [04:31:13] so they're slow [04:31:24] did Romney eve have a QID ?;) [04:31:57] lol [04:32:25] mutante: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q4496 [04:32:57] hah! [04:33:28] Obama is Q76 [04:34:39] * mutante checks if wikinews edited [04:36:05] https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Australian_Broadcasting_Corporation_plans_to_call_California_for_Obama_before_polls_close hmm, maybe this should be updated to "Australian Broadcasting Corporation calls ELECTION for Obama before polls close" [04:36:17] ;) [04:36:25] yea [04:36:27] http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Story_preparation/2012_US_presidential_election [04:36:34] still in "prep" [04:37:17] http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Breaking_news#First_moments [04:40:51] New patchset: Amire80; "Add Hebrew and Russian namespace names" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32182 [09:26:41] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Prevent re-enabling page interface after pressing enter key" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32196 [09:45:42] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32074 [09:56:45] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32070 [10:05:13] DanielK_WMDE: poke [10:05:13] hi [10:05:13] oh, schon nach elf [10:05:15] ich tipp immernoch an der mail an tim [10:05:16] moment [10:11:31] Abraham_WMDE: dent. sorry [10:11:52] DanielK_WMDE: ok [10:21:27] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "wbsearchentity continuation fixed." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31837 [10:34:42] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "wbsearchentity continuation fixed." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31837 [10:46:47] New patchset: Aude; "add localisation for talk link, word separator and cleanup comments in RC formatting" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32200 [11:21:34] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Improving auto-highlighting of site id interface suggestions" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32203 [12:09:59] New review: Tobias Gritschacher; "There are several issues with this changeset and it should not be merged yet." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31837 [13:02:37] Just an question, some RfA´s ended yesterday or today. Who´s going to assign to rights? [13:02:46] Or are we going to wait some time or? [13:02:57] just wondering [13:03:11] * Sannita pokes Vito_away [13:03:40] Wiki13: btw, I don't think we're going to flag 50 admins right now... [13:03:56] (I know you weren't suggesting that, just talking) [13:04:08] no, I meant, some ended already after been running for a week [13:04:20] what to with these? [13:04:20] do* [13:04:30] that's why I'm poking Vito_away [13:04:40] he could answer, probably [13:05:30] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "improved type hint" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32210 [13:05:46] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32210 [13:23:31] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Remove static methods from interfaces - not allowed by strict standards" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32214 [13:27:29] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Add class missing use statement" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32217 [13:29:20] New patchset: Jens Ohlig; "Added TermMatchScoreCalculator" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32020 [13:30:49] Change merged: Aude; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32217 [13:44:34] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "pass argument to correct function" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32218 [13:54:47] New patchset: Jens Ohlig; "Added TermMatchScoreCalculator" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32020 [13:56:40] aude: can you do me a favour and look into I6ec7a388? John is seeing failures, but I can't reproduce the problem [14:02:39] code freeze now [14:07:08] DanielK_WMDE: ok [14:08:26] Any admin here to block https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/61.144.23.34 [14:08:34] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "wbsearchentity continuation fixed." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31837 [14:08:34] our first troll on wikidata [14:08:35] -.- [14:09:00] would be the first block too, I guess [14:09:00] oh no :( [14:09:14] Wiki13: done [14:09:22] you still need to ask GSes, I presume [14:09:28] quick [14:09:36] johl: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/31837/ [14:09:56] MF-W: well some RfA´s ended today [14:10:03] :/ [14:10:12] and some yesterday already [14:10:12] yes, but I dont see anything on m:SRP yet [14:10:29] ..... [14:10:42] I don´t want to do that [14:11:05] as I´m one of the guys which requested admin [14:11:11] hihi [14:11:19] maybe I should :O [14:11:26] but I don't fancy making 20 requests either [14:12:09] should´t we make some blocked template? [14:13:37] MF-W: If you want to do that, I´ll be pleased [14:13:51] :) [14:14:05] templates or SRP? [14:14:11] huh? [14:14:42] I don´t really get it [14:14:58] will you be pleased if I create templates or edit SRP? :D [14:15:22] well, both [14:15:23] XD [14:15:36] hehe [14:15:51] well, once I'll have fixed this translation mess [14:17:12] New patchset: Jens Ohlig; "wbsearchentity continuation fixed." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31837 [14:17:25] Change merged: Jens Ohlig; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31837 [14:17:27] MF-W: wiki13 i'm trying to tell what the content was of those items... they appeared empty to me [14:17:39] Wikibase, Diff and DataValues were tagged with 2012-11-07 [14:17:42] but then i might have been looking the wrong language and can't tell [14:17:54] they were, but some of the contained nonsense [14:18:09] hmmm [14:18:28] I only asked to block the guy, not deleting the items he made :S [14:18:29] one had as the only content "ng" as the Chinese label for example [14:18:49] as those could be re-used [14:19:53] New patchset: Jens Ohlig; "Added TermMatchScoreCalculator" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32020 [14:22:29] ok, on my test wiki, i was able to create an item with ' ' (a space) in the description [14:23:02] otherwise, it checks if the create item fields are empty and disallows creating the item [14:23:18] * aude wondering how else empty items get created [14:28:30] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "(Bug 41383) Update wbgetentities to report statements for items" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29945 [14:37:25] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32214 [14:42:30] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32182 [14:50:42] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Added TermMatchScoreCalculator" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32020 [14:51:13] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32020 [14:52:35] Change merged: Aude; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32218 [14:54:37] DanielK_WMDE: poke [14:59:42] New review: Aude; "The API tests all pass with this patch (except some skipped tests) and also pass in master. The cha..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 1 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30963 [15:04:07] Abraham_WMDE: ready when you are [15:04:32] nm [15:04:34] hm [15:04:38] * [15:06:18] New review: Aude; "correction: there are incomplete tests not skipped tests" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 1 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30963 [15:12:25] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "(Bug 41164) Initial commit of wbgetclaims" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30591 [15:22:54] New review: John Erling Blad; "PHP Fatal error: Call to undefined method Wikibase\ApiSerializationOptions::getProps() in /home/joh..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: -1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30591 [15:35:50] New review: John Erling Blad; "This creates a weird unrelated error in EditEntityTest, but this seems to be completly unrelated." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30738 [15:35:57] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30738 [15:43:20] New review: John Erling Blad; "This has a huge number of conflicts now" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: -1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30821 [15:48:37] is there a date for accepting first botrequests? (Still waiting to get botrights :/) [16:08:49] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "(Bug 41419) Initial work on statements in ItemView [DO NOT SUBMIT]" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30055 [16:13:53] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "(Bug 41419) Initial work on statements in ItemView [DO NOT SUBMIT]" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30055 [16:19:02] Tpt: hey :) [16:19:03] around? [16:20:09] hm, some RfA´s already ended and nothing is done :/ [16:20:30] Wiki13: patience :) [16:20:36] i'm sure someone will take care of it soon [16:20:49] no-one dies if it's a day or two after the end [16:21:07] I hope no-one will die after that :P [16:21:11] hehe [16:21:12] that too [16:21:21] [16:21:22] :P [16:21:26] ;-) [16:21:32] Lydia_WMDE: We could do them via cabal on saturday [16:21:46] Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32048 [16:21:48] Reedy: you mean in utrecht? sounds good :D [16:22:16] "Still awaiting shipment of Club Mate and/or Stroopwaffels. Declined" [16:22:29] haha [16:22:34] lol [16:26:09] Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32066 [16:29:38] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29945 [16:33:17] New patchset: Daniel Werner; "Introducing site selector jQuery widget" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31375 [16:33:59] * Silke_WMDE_ is starting to update the demo system now [16:36:39] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "Improving auto-highlighting of site id interface suggestions" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32203 [16:37:48] Lydia_WMDE: Hi! [16:38:09] Tpt: hey! [16:38:21] Tpt: we just did our sprint review [16:38:31] there we demo everything that was worked on [16:38:44] I wanted to let you know that everyone was super happy with the stuff you've done :) [16:39:10] whee [16:39:39] Tpt: i have one thing: the title of the special page should have the "the" removed [16:39:40] Clubmate for Reedy... *openbottle* [16:39:54] Change abandoned: John Erling Blad; "die, to mutch conflicts" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30821 [16:40:19] EntitiesWithoutLinks ? [16:41:17] Tpt: EntitiesWithoutLabels [16:41:27] List of the entities without label -> List of entities without label [16:42:16] Tpt: same in the small text above the language field there [16:43:11] Ok. I fix that. [16:43:47] thanks! [16:45:29] dev-repo/dev-client will be unavailable for a moment! [16:45:30] New patchset: Tpt; "Fix a small error in the label of Special:EntitiesWithoutLabel" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32228 [16:46:50] Change merged: Aude; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32228 [16:47:18] Tpt: thanks [16:47:42] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32196 [16:47:46] AnjaJ_WMDE: can you backport this one please https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/32228/ [16:48:08] putting it on the list, aude [16:48:23] thanks [16:57:04] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32200 [16:58:02] whee [16:58:10] When are we looking at deploying the next branch? roughly? [16:58:14] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Add profiling for client part of Wikibase" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32233 [16:59:18] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32039 [17:02:20] Damn. I need to make sure I buy a breathalyzer tomorrow/friday [17:03:28] Driving in France, Belgium or Netherlands? [17:03:28] According to the Foreign & Commonwealth Office there has been a series of robberies and express kidnappings on or around the motorway connecting Amsterdam, The Hague, Rotterdam, Antwerp, Ghent, Dunkirk and the Channel Ports - particularly towards the southern end of the route. [17:03:29] Wheeee [17:03:51] Reedy: i understand we're getting another security review from chris [17:03:54] I think so... [17:03:56] client + repo [17:04:08] Wikivoyage stuff is nearly done with, so he should have more free time by next week [17:04:19] i expect the client will need more tweaking for how we sync and update changes between repo and client [17:04:48] i suppose it'd be possible to update the repo, regardless of the client stuff [17:05:06] * aude can't wait to edit the new wikivoyage :) [17:05:23] the client will go on test2 when ready [17:05:28] Yeah, updating the repo without the client makes sense [17:05:33] the code can stay in the branch etc [17:05:36] i can't see a problem [17:05:55] as long as there's no security issues that chris finds [17:06:03] there's going to be enough benefit in updating the repo alone for wikidata.org users [17:06:09] we can discuss tomorrow but [17:06:37] i expect we can do more regular repo updates, like weekly after that and use whaever the normal process is for other deployed extensions [17:06:51] yup [17:06:59] * aude sure chris doesn't review everything [17:11:43] New patchset: Aude; "(bug 41038) invite user to update associated Wikibase item in Special:MovePage upon form submit success" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32235 [17:18:22] New patchset: Aude; "(bug 41038) invite user to update associated Wikibase item in Special:MovePage upon form submit success" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32235 [17:22:50] New review: Anja Jentzsch; "There were 6 failures:" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: -1 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30963 [17:25:04] hm if i search this: https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&profile=default&search=Hi-Virus&fulltext=Search the link i am looking for is the last link :( [17:25:43] Sk1d: yeah - serch sucks still - we're working on it [17:26:11] Sk1d: see https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36423 for status updates [17:27:27] Having wikisearch not using mysql would be a nice starter ;) [17:34:23] New review: Aude; "I don't think I am escaping this message correctly, with rawParams." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32235 [17:35:14] DanielK_WMDE: if you have time and can look at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/32235/, that would be helpful [17:35:32] Hey all and DanielK_WMDE: Has anyone done anything to the database of our test repo? [17:35:49] I can't purge it anymore [17:35:49] * aude needs suggestions on how to do the message and format it correctly [17:35:59] Which is evil because now it's half deleted [17:36:02] Silke_WMDE_: no [17:48:49] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Add profiling for repo hooks in Wikibase" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32241 [17:51:46] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Add profiling for repo hooks in Wikibase" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32241 [17:56:42] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Add profiling for repo hooks in Wikibase" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32241 [17:57:05] DanielK_WMDE: poke? [18:00:13] Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31375 [18:06:46] New patchset: Aude; "(bug 41038) invite user to update associated Wikibase item in Special:MovePage upon form submit success" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32235 [18:07:24] [15:18:43] Wiki13 as those could be re-used <-- reusing items it's kind of deprecated [18:08:12] there will be a ratio 1 item : 1 article ( : 1 whatever on other wikis), so it's better not to create "wrong" habits [18:08:55] well, it´s not that wrong [18:09:01] imo [18:09:36] as it is annoying if you create an item that already exists [18:09:49] and need to create a new one [18:09:58] New patchset: Anja Jentzsch; "Make ApiBotEditTest robust agnst non-sequential IDs." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30963 [18:10:03] instead of simply changing it [18:10:44] that´s the easiest way, in my opinion [18:12:06] New review: Anja Jentzsch; "Wasn't working for me cause it expected items to be in the Main namespace. Mine are in the Item name..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 1 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30963 [18:12:35] Wiki13: yes but the idea is that these identifiers are stable and can be used elsewhere to always refer to a certain thing [18:12:39] and not change [18:12:51] starting the habbit of changing items to be something else is bad [18:13:02] even if they're not used anywhere yet really [18:13:50] that´s something I not really agree, but ok... [18:14:19] agree with [18:14:40] * [18:14:58] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Add profiling for EditEntity in Wikibase" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32245 [18:23:29] Lydia_WMDE: ping [18:24:38] New patchset: Aude; "(bug 41038) invite user to update associated Wikibase item in Special:MovePage upon form submit success" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32235 [18:27:51] New review: Aude; "Currently, the added message is displayed at the top of the page, above "Page A" has been moved to "..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32235 [18:28:48] Sannita: Lydia_WMDE has gone home. She may or may not be online later [18:29:02] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Add profiling for ItemEntity in Wikibase" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32247 [18:34:47] aude: thanks [18:35:11] sure [18:41:53] Hm. repo and both client are up to date, the database is ok again, but the replication is broken [18:42:04] I'm not gonna solve this today. [18:42:48] sorry for that [18:44:20] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Introduced EntityId class to hold to methods to deal with different representations of IDs and also serve to improve interfaces accepting or returing Entity IDs" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32172 [18:46:21] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Introduced EntityId class to hold to methods to deal with different representations of IDs and also serve to improve interfaces accepting or returing Entity IDs" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32172 [18:50:05] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Minor style improvement" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32248 [18:50:20] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32248 [18:50:20] New review: Aude; "Very helpful to know why the tests failed for some people and not others." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30963 [18:56:59] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Fixed a bunch of type compatibility notices" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32249 [19:03:31] New review: Aude; "looks good although I've not yet verified and see my inline comment." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32233 [19:11:21] Sannita: hey [19:11:27] wesetitem is now renamed to wbeditentity? [19:11:31] wbsetitem [19:11:42] hey Lydia_WMDE, did you checked your email? [19:12:08] Sannita: yeah i'll answer your questions tomorrow before i leave if that's ok [19:12:37] Lydia_WMDE: that's perfect [19:12:37] :) [19:12:37] thank you for your help ;) [19:13:19] sure! [19:13:25] (that's my job ;-)) [19:16:33] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "fixed indent" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32251 [19:17:15] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32247 [19:40:17] http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q15965 speedydelete thx [19:41:33] MF-Warburg: ^ [19:42:03] poff [19:42:26] btw.. [19:42:40] thx MF-Warburg [19:43:01] after you got some drink some hours ago, you forgot some you said you would do :P [19:43:16] you know what I mean XD [19:43:25] np Steinsplitter [19:43:41] Steinsplitter: funktionieren die skripte eigentlich mittlerweile bei dir? [19:43:54] Wiki13: I asked stewies, and they will take care of it [19:44:04] probably all requests at once [19:44:10] all 48? o.O [19:44:35] MF-Warburg: ja, Super :-) [19:45:05] i mean [19:45:21] some less than 48 :S [19:45:40] As some will not get it, i think [19:46:14] MF-Warburg: mit der Beschreibung immer klein anfangen, oder irre ich mich da? hm... [19:46:43] the tag script doens´t seem to work here [19:48:12] Steinsplitter: wie meinen? kurz und griffig, jawollja :P [19:49:43] MF-Warburg: Ob man bei der beschreibung immer Gross anfangem muss; ich hab bisser immer klein angefangen? [19:50:05] ähh [19:50:10] gute Frage [19:50:18] gibt da glaube ich keine Regel [19:50:56] ah, ok :-) [20:03:37] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "Whoops! Thanks Anja for spotting this! After I got your report, I was beginning to suspect something..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30963 [20:06:57] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Add profiling for EditEntity in Wikibase" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32245 [20:08:09] New patchset: Aude; "(bug 41038) invite user to update associated Wikibase item in Special:MovePage upon form submit success" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32235 [20:09:21] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "needs some fixing. will look into this next week if nobody else does so before me." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30963 [20:14:32] New patchset: Aude; "add type checks in Wikibase client hooks" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32261 [20:15:56] Bonsoir, hello everybody :) [20:16:26] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32235 [20:16:37] is there a code for links to wikidata page (like s for wikisource, or other) or not yet ? wd ? d ? [20:17:38] you mean something like wikidata: hsarrazin? [20:18:04] yes :) I thought there would be a "shorter" code ;) [20:18:12] nope, there isn´t one still, altough they asked to add it [20:18:52] and will the link be to QXXXX or to the label in the language ? [20:19:50] hsarrazin: QXXX [20:20:01] bonsoir tpt :) [20:20:04] merci [20:20:15] hsarrazin: Bonsoir [20:20:47] Tpt: je suis en train de mettre en place des infobox sur wp sur les pages des auteurs où il n'y en a pas, au fur et à mesure que je tombe dessus ;) [20:21:04] et je crée les auteurs dans wikidata, dans la foulée :D [20:21:10] hsarrazin: Wiki13: there is d: [20:21:16] oh? [20:21:30] Lydia_WMDE: is it already working ? [20:21:37] it should be [20:21:42] it does not here [20:21:50] ok, I'll test it and I tell you... [20:21:56] https://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=d%3A&title=Speciaal%3AZoeken [20:21:58] nope [20:22:20] hmm [20:22:25] i'll look into it tomorrw [20:23:43] Lydia_WMDE: it does not seem to work, at least from wikisource :s [20:24:06] hsarrazin: Bien :-) Mais je ne pense pas que ce soit la peine de se fatiguer avec cela pour le moment, il va y avoir des bots qui vont faire le travail. [20:24:34] tpt pas pour créer les infobox en tout cas :DD [20:24:52] Tpt: ça me permet de tester les possibilités... ;) [20:25:03] hsarrazin: Je parlais à propos de Wikidata. [20:25:46] Tpt: moi aussi... j'alterne un peu de boulot sur wikidata avec un peu sur wikisource (je mets à jour les index de la RDDM) et la mise à jour de auteurs... [20:26:33] New patchset: Aude; "add type checks in Wikibase client hooks" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32261 [20:29:40] New review: Aude; "already been approved by Jeroen, just needed a rebase here" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32261 [20:29:40] Change merged: Aude; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32261 [20:50:38] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Add profiling for PropertyView in Wikibase" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32306 [20:50:38] hi at all [20:58:25] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32306 [21:27:59] New review: Denny Vrandecic; "This needs validation soooo strongly." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32172 [21:49:41] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Add profiling for API in Wikibase" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32314 [22:03:53] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Add profiling for API in Wikibase" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32314 [22:50:20] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Agree that this needs to be verified by someone else then me. All tests passed for me, but this stil..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32172