[00:01:25] what to do if in seperate Q's the same subject is created, can it be merged? [00:03:11] Romaine: I was wondering the same thing [00:03:36] with only one or to copy paste can work [00:03:41] there is a feature request for thislet's say: wikidata people have this feature planned before is goes live ;-) [00:03:48] There's no merge now AFAI [00:03:49] AFAAIK [00:03:52] but sometimes with islands of many ... [00:04:12] so we are now playing not live :p [00:04:31] Romaine: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38664 [00:05:01] and are renamings on the local wiki's automatically changed in the system? [00:06:03] no langlinks get lost is this case [00:06:17] but that will be changed in future I hope? [00:07:55] I already find some double creations :S [00:09:24] Yeah.. [00:09:59] Romaine: I found one [00:10:23] Q40, Q29 [00:12:17] Q191, Q39 [00:12:46] is there any way to mark pages for deletion? [00:14:12] I relocated some data and put another country in it [00:15:19] Q2013 and Q184 are duplicates [00:15:24] :S [00:16:08] too bad we can't add {{delete}} or something to the page [00:16:09] 10[3] 10https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:delete [00:16:36] maybe to the talk pages? [00:16:55] I added empty as title in the doublures [00:18:13] YairRand: I didn't even notice we had talk pages [00:19:31] every item has a talk page. they probably function like regular wiki pages. [00:20:08] YairRand: labels are not unique [00:20:20] so? [00:20:49] a sitelinks can be connected to only one item [00:21:18] so...? [00:21:33] but you can have two items having th same label (e.g. two cities having the same name) [00:22:04] they have the same name, but different articles (=sitelinks) [00:22:24] I understand that [00:23:01] This is probably because the wiki existed previously but has been closed. [00:23:07] Merlissimo: sorry, which statement are you responding to? [00:23:23] Q2013 and Q184 are duplicates [00:24:10] New patchset: Reedy; "Fix line endings to be consistent with everything else" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30736 [00:24:20] Merlissimo: so you're saying that they're for two different entities called "Wikidata"? [00:25:05] there can be two different entities sharing the same label [00:25:40] yes, but those two are probably just referring to the same entity... [00:25:46] but they are two different items which must have different sitelinks [00:26:04] one has no sitelinks at all [00:26:17] two different subjects (even if they have the same name) [00:26:33] (and has apparently just had its label changed to "empty") [00:26:43] without having an article connect you cannot know the content of an entity [00:27:41] you can if the description makes it clear that it refers to the same entity [00:28:44] if I set my language preference to something else then English, the labels in English disappear? [00:29:28] New patchset: Reedy; "Tidy up inconsistent returns" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30737 [00:31:16] New patchset: Reedy; "Tidy up inconsistent returns" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30737 [00:31:16] Romaine: yes, only labels in your user lange are shown (or no label if there is not one). Solving this problem is also a feature request. [00:33:00] from wiki's I set up we had the user language as tekst, unless that wasn't available then English [00:33:11] showing at least something [00:34:16] New patchset: Reedy; "@param $foo false or @return false isn't valid" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30738 [00:40:40] wheee [00:40:41] 200 items [00:56:07] um, it is possible to delete items, right? [00:58:14] YairRand: only if you are an admin [00:58:28] ah, okay. [00:59:01] would there be any problem with adding a Template:Delete to wikidata? [01:00:44] editing article source is blocked for entities. maybe you shoudl ask at http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Contact_the_development_team [01:01:58] on this channel all developers are off because local time is 2 o'clock am [01:02:03] it could be added to article talk pages [01:02:49] blocking entities' article source in general probably makes sense [01:07:46] you create one new page for creating a deletion request. and then an admin must delete two pages. [01:08:17] but i do not know another solution, too. [01:08:22] yep [01:11:20] an alternative would be a "deletion requests" page [01:11:29] not sure if that would be better [01:15:15] Can we add things for non-Wikipedia projects? [01:16:10] I don't think so [01:28:34] PiRSquared17: only for wikipedia wikis. even not all wikis that have langlinks to wikipedia wiki are possible (species, commons, incubator) [01:29:02] there are some feature requests for this [01:35:46] Romaine: ping [01:35:53] ? [01:35:58] The links for Brussels go to different pages [01:36:34] The English one is for "Brussels Hoofdstedelijk Gewest" [01:36:44] strange en-wiki [01:38:30] solved [01:38:38] also created Brussels Capital Region [01:38:58] :) [01:44:59] * Romaine goes to bed [01:45:58] almost 250 [01:48:09] Now there is 250 ;) [01:57:42] Reedy: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat [01:57:51] nvm, working now [01:57:57] :S [02:53:55] Reedy: ping [02:59:56] Will there be bots to automatically add all the interwiki links to wikidata? [03:00:16] and the data [03:07:31] PiRSquared17: yes. But not everything can be added automatically [03:08:03] Merlissimo: I read that things like birth dates will be added. How? [03:08:13] e.g. my bot is running on test wiki http://wikidata-test-repo.wikimedia.de/wiki/Special:Contributions/MerlIwBot [03:08:50] phase 1 is langlinks only, birth dates will be phase 2 which will be enabled much later [03:10:09] Merlissimo: "much later" over a year? [03:11:50] i don't know but developing was just started. [03:13:46] but you know that espacially birth dates are not easy to implements in a data model? [03:14:13] because same person has different dates on different wikis [03:14:21] can has [03:17:37] so we need to check every one? :S [03:24:02] PiRSquared17: that must be done by local community. my favorite example is Riaz Shahi. I would say he died in 2001, because many doctors checked his corpse an declared him as dead. Everyone could also visit his corpse at a mausoleum. That's why many wikis have categorised him as dead. But on enwiki he is categorised in "Possibly living people " because before his death he say he will revive. After a long descussion the enwiki community [03:24:02] decided that he only "disappeared". So he has not date of death there. [03:27:00] * Merlissimo thinks that people who said that say will revive should always tell the people the date of revival. Then they could finally be declared as death after this date ;-) [09:41:23] DanielK_WMDE: regarding your edit conflicts tests at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/29973/ [09:41:36] DanielK_WMDE: I am not sure how we can get rid of sleep(1) :-] [09:41:55] hashar: me nither. seems to me we need to keep them. [09:41:58] is that needed to change the edit time ? [09:42:08] yes [09:42:22] the revision's timestamp is used to detect the edit conflicts (yes, that's stupid) [09:42:42] i could create revisions directly, with fake timestamps [09:42:51] but then i wouldn't be testing EditPage any more, would I... [09:43:55] does the conflict triggers only when the edit timestamps are equals? [09:44:28] no, it triggers if there was an edit made with a timestamp > the base timestamp [09:45:04] i guess for the simplest case, i could just fake the base timestamp. [09:45:27] that makes for less robust tests though, it needs internal knowledge. [09:45:56] that is, i would be *creating* an edit conflict, instead of *simulating* the situation in which a conflict should be detected. [09:48:32] 'rev_timestamp > ' . $db->addQuotes( $db->timestamp( $since ) ) [09:48:32] :( [09:48:36] in Revision::userWasLastToEdit() [09:49:21] yep [09:50:04] the $since is coming from EditPage->edit time [09:50:26] EditPage->edittime, can't it be forged/altered somehow instead of sleeping? [09:50:26] yes. it's a request parameter [09:50:55] in some cases, i could set a dummy time, yes. [09:51:16] i may be able to get rid of one or two sleeps that way. i don't think i can eliminate all without incorporating too much internal knowledge into the test [09:51:23] that would trigger the conflict without having to sleep() ;-] [09:51:38] yes, but it makes the test case less expressive [09:51:45] but faster [09:51:52] i'm then no longer testing the actual situation that should be detected. [09:51:53] isnt sleep() a bit cumbersome? [09:52:06] hashar: i could also write empty test cases, they are fastest ;) [09:52:08] indeed [09:52:23] that is advocated by Domas using the only worthwhile performance operator: // [09:52:23] of course it's cumbersome. it sucks. timestamps are the wrong way to do this anyway. [09:52:29] the detection should be based on revision ids. [09:52:43] hehehe.... nice [09:53:03] http://dom.as/2007/11/15/optimization-operator/ [09:53:04] ;) [09:54:04] DanielK_WMDE: so if you can get rid of some of the sleep() calls easily, go for it [09:54:31] hashar: yea, it's on the list. you put a -1 there, right? [09:54:44] there are also a few more modifications which are needed in the tests [09:54:45] hence the -1 I guess [09:55:03] which does not mean I reject the change :-] [09:55:29] I am very happy to see a test covering edit conflicting [09:58:47] is wikidata compatible with flaggedrevs? could flaggedrevs be installed on wikidata.org? [10:01:36] Hola. [10:01:46] No CentralAuth on wikidata.org yet? [10:03:08] aharoni: should work [10:05:30] Lydia_WMDE: it works if I press "Log in" and type the password, but I would expect it to work immediately if I'm logged in in another project. [10:06:00] aharoni: ah i don't know the details of that [10:06:29] aharoni: maybe it's not working because you logged in last time when wikidata wasn't yet included in central auth? [10:06:44] no idea. [10:14:54] aharoni: i thought single log in does not work over the projects due to different second level domains? [10:15:20] i.e. if you are logged in in wikipedia, and move to commons or wiktionary, you also are not logged in there (if you have not been logged in before) [10:15:36] that is not a wikidata issue, i am afraid, but wmf wide [10:15:39] can anyone confirm? [10:15:52] it works from https://he.wikipedia.org to https://hr.wikisource.org . [10:16:06] different language and different project. [10:16:26] Reedy: ^ you know a thing or two about CentralAuth, don't you? [10:20:07] Denny_WMDE: that has been my experience [10:21:13] so I guess the existing interwiki links have yet to be loaded? [10:22:44] edsu: we will not do that [10:22:47] and we asked bot authors to wait [10:22:50] aharoni: when to you login last time? [10:22:59] to give people some time to play and actually do something themself [10:23:03] to wikidata.org? that's the first time. [10:23:14] Lydia_WMDE: huh, ok -- i haven't been following recent developments, i thought i heard someone say that at wikimania [10:23:44] Merlissimo: oh - when did log in to some other older project? I don't know. A while ago ;) [10:23:56] Lydia_WMDE: it doesn't look like there's a whole lot to do other than add interwiki links, but I guess I'm missing something? [10:24:11] hi edsu [10:24:12] no, that's it for now [10:24:14] edsu: no we've always been clear that we won't be importing links and other data [10:24:18] edsu: no you're not missing anything [10:24:20] the bots will do most of the work [10:24:25] that's all there is for now [10:24:27] aude: hi! :) congrats on getting wikidata going [10:24:30] but people can have fun too :) [10:24:49] how's the hurricane? [10:25:22] aharoni: i just tried. i used safari [10:25:27] i logged into en.wp [10:25:36] and then went to en.wsource [10:25:45] and i was not logged in [10:25:50] aude: it was pretty strong for this area, but by some strange miracle i didn't lose power [10:25:50] which browser are you using? [10:26:20] Lydia_WMDE: sorry i wasn't paying attention at wikimania then :) [10:26:22] * aude nods and amazed you have power still :) [10:26:52] edsu: phase 2 will be all the infobox data [10:26:56] aharoni: the login page sets cookies for all domains. so if you haven't loaded the login page on any wiki since yesterday, cookies are not set [10:27:04] but not ready to launch that jus tyet [10:27:33] aude: gotcha, it definitely makes sense to stage it [10:27:50] i was wondering if wikidata mediawiki was configured to announce changes in irc [10:28:15] was going to add it to wikistream.inkdroid.org :) [10:28:46] edsu: probably is [10:29:47] Merlissimo, Denny_WMDE - OK, if I log in to another project, and then to Wikidata, then everything is fine. (tried with another account.) [10:31:29] aude: i wasn't sure what the name was since it didn't fit the #lang.project pattern [10:40:07] Reedy: what is the maximum item size allowed on wikidata.org? 2MB like for other projects? [10:40:51] * Merlissimo 's bot created an item of 65k [10:41:15] edsu: looking [10:43:06] edsu: it's #wikidata.wikipedia [10:43:12] thanks! [10:43:42] it's just how the database is setup that it gets the "wikipedia" in the name, but it works [10:51:41] aude: does phase 2 include the feature to link to commons? [10:52:59] Merlissimo: we will be able to link to commons media in phase 2 [10:54:23] i man to have sitelinks to common pages and this value can be uses as target at template {{commons}} on local pages [10:54:24] 10[4] 10https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:commons [10:54:49] and also maintaining commons langlinks (which link to wikipedia) [10:57:08] this should be added at some point, I agree [10:59:24] if it is implemented later, we maybe must add a template on commons pages which defines the related item and a bot syncs the langlinks from wikidata to commons [10:59:59] the same for incubator [11:00:18] i would be surprised if it wouldn't be implemented at some point [11:00:41] we will see [11:00:56] i am not promising that feature, but i have the feeling that it would be not too hard to do [11:08:12] i guess you all have noticed how some languages are capitalized and others not? [11:26:44] Hi, congrats to everyone for the good work, and it's nice that Wikidata official birthday will be the same as mine :) [11:27:16] Lydia_WMDE: should we start a discussion on wikidata.org which features a bot importing sitelinks must have / how it should work? [11:28:09] edsu: we noticed [11:28:27] e.g. today i implemented the feature that now displaytitles instead of to titles is used a label. so we can collected all wanted features. [11:34:47] jem-: congratulations! :) [11:36:11] New review: John Erling Blad; "I think we need to discuss this as it will have implications a lot of places in our doc." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30738 [11:37:35] Denny_WMDE: #mediawiki-i18n [11:40:26] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/30738/ [11:41:01] Its a good (and valid) point reedy makes but I think we need to discuss this first [11:46:01] New patchset: Jens Ohlig; "(Bug #40391) Add continuation to wbsearchentities and return only matching aliases" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29956 [11:54:05] Hello TorstenK [11:54:08] :D [11:54:13] Hallo, wann plant ihr auf wikidata.org Infos für Autoren bereit zu halten? [11:55:16] Lydia_WMDE, Denny_WMDE: TorstenK made a point on twitter that the Main Page lacks information for the community how to get involved, especially how to add items etc. [11:55:45] Lydia_WMDE: a little timetable would be helpfull [11:56:01] TorstenK: hey [11:56:13] TorstenK: timetable for what exactly? [11:56:27] Merlissimo: sounds good to me :) [11:59:16] Jens_WMDE: i was wondering how to add items too [12:00:33] Denny_WMDE: Thanks :) [12:00:53] Btw, is it Ok to begin creating discussion / village pumps / etc. or should we wait until there's no risk of a full reset? [12:00:53] edsu: http://wikidata.org/wiki/Special:ItemByTitle is where i start [12:01:39] see if some wikipedia link is already included in an item (e.g. enwiki => Canada ) [12:01:39] Lydia_WMDE: when there will be manuals to use Wikidata [12:01:50] if it doesn't exist, then it will show a create item link [12:01:50] Lydia_WMDE: he only way to find the Repository is to go on "RecentChanges" yet [12:01:50] thas soon as the community works on it - this is nothing the staff should work on right now [12:02:15] i am happy to answer questions anyone has working on it [12:02:42] TorstenK: actually, wikidata.org _is_ the repository. [12:02:43] aude: thanks! [12:03:05] Jens_WMDE: i think it's ok to do that [12:03:10] eh [12:03:12] jem-: ^ [12:03:19] i'm sure the workflow can be improved and i think we welcome feedback [12:04:53] Lydia_WMDE: I think at least an English manual how to work with Wikidata ist essential for actually being launched. [12:05:33] jem-: i think these pages should be created, yes. but it's up to you :) [12:05:47] the longer the page is staying the lower the probability that we will restart [12:06:30] Lydia_WMDE: how should items be deleted by community? on all other wikis they add {{delete}} to a page and then an admin delete the page after reviewing if the deletion request s valid. But this cannot be done with items [12:06:30] 10[3] 10https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:delete [12:06:45] TorstenK: Wikipedia started without a manual [12:07:23] I have the hope that the manual will be created as we go [12:07:28] Merlissimo: http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions [12:07:42] Denny_WMDE: Ok :) I'll try to catch up with things first, I have a lot of open battles, as usual [12:07:46] Merlissimo: i will go through them later today [12:07:56] it would be good i think if people start applying at the stewards page on meta for admin acces [12:08:10] it would be nice for the community to handle deletions and not us [12:08:16] jep [12:08:57] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Steward_requests/Permissions [12:09:00] aude: more than nice, actually. it is mandatory that the community does that, not the software developers. [12:09:08] Jens_WMDE: sure :) [12:10:40] @RC- meta_wikipedia Wikidata [12:10:41] Deleted item from feed [12:10:48] @RC+ meta_wikimedia Wikidata [12:10:48] Inserted new item to feed of changes [12:10:54] aude: test pls [12:11:05] Denny_WMDE: No, it didn't The manual was short on the front page [12:12:33] okay, I just wait for the hu.wp-Launch [12:12:38] jeremyb: what? [12:12:47] aude: edit [[m:wikidata]] ;) [12:12:47] 10[5] 10https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/wikidata [12:12:51] * aude can't [12:12:52] !place [12:12:52] that's a lovely place! [12:12:57] you edit [12:13:01] oh, the meta wiki page [12:13:04] can't?! ok [12:13:17] * jeremyb wonders what aude thought ;P [12:13:40] !nyan [12:13:41] ~=[,,_,,]:3 [12:14:14] Change on 12meta_wikimedia a page Wikidata was modified, changed by Katie Filbert (WMDE) link https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=4355992 edit summary: null edit [12:14:36] * aude shouldn't edit wikidata.org during working hours [12:15:08] TobiasG_WMDE: is your bug 41541 a dupe of my bug 41533? [12:16:19] aude: it's so tempting... [12:16:27] heh [12:17:10] aude: ahhh [12:17:45] aude: a null edit works even if you do not modify anything. Then no new revision is created, but tables are updated [12:18:13] Merlissimo: ok [12:19:13] Raymond: I think you mean https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41533 and https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41541 [12:19:40] Raymont, sorry, https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41533 and https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41541 [12:19:59] Raymond: my bug is a more general description of your's [12:20:18] cause there are more problems with the IME than what u described [12:20:37] TobiasG_WMDE: ok, than I will dupe mine in favour of yours :) [12:24:39] New patchset: Jens Ohlig; "(Bug #40391) Add continuation to wbsearchentities and return only matching aliases" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29956 [12:26:59] hey guys, I did a deletion of a duplicate on wikidata [12:27:14] but actually I don't know if am I allowed to do such things [12:27:24] does someone know? [12:28:30] got an answer on the wiki [12:28:54] jeblad_WMDE: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/29956/ merge please? [12:29:06] running the tests [12:36:11] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29956 [12:37:16] Vito_away: thanks, btw [12:37:56] you're very welcome [12:42:36] Merlissimo: not for the reason she was editing... to make the bot talk! [12:42:53] Will the Hungarian Wikipedia be the first one to turn on Wikidata? [12:43:49] TorstenK: are you press? [12:44:03] yes [12:44:26] Lydia_WMDE: ping ? [12:44:47] Hi, is it possible to create links to pages other than Wikipedia in Wikidata right now? [12:45:13] Dakdada: i haven't edited it yet so idk... maybe you could check the interwiki map ? [12:46:18] Dakdada: no, check allowed values of site at http://wikidata-test-repo.wikimedia.de/w/api.php?action=paraminfo&modules=wbsetitem [12:46:35] or that [12:47:08] interwikimap is indepentent. these values are related to sitematrix. [12:47:37] Yahoooo. Congrat everyone! [12:48:26] jeremyb: Lydia_WMDE is on lunch right now [12:48:40] Denny_WMDE: see TorstenK above... [12:49:10] TorstenK: that is the current plan, yes. They have volunteered to be the first one to try it out. [12:49:45] Thanks for the answers, that's what I thought. I guess Wikipedia takes priority for now. [12:50:43] Dakdada: yes [12:53:18] TorstenK? Norway? [12:56:44] that was short... [12:57:41] I got some "missing wiki" error messages [12:57:53] yes, we had those reports. not sure where it comes from [13:00:20] (maybe because someone added many whisky distilleries' entries .___. ) [13:03:13] jem-: pong [13:09:44] jeblad_WMDE: will you add wbgetentities to wikidata.org or will this wiki use wbgetitems only (my bot already uses wbgetentities) [13:10:17] jeblad_WMDE is at lunch [13:10:27] but it will move to wbgetentities [13:10:41] i think we will update the version of wikibase on wikidata.org at some point [13:10:41] wikidata.org runs a slightly older code base, that is all [13:10:48] somethings will change but not sure when we will update [13:10:49] the API will break [13:10:56] oh, right, we should write that somewhere :/ [13:11:00] and when? [13:11:19] maybe when the client gets installed on huwp? [13:11:38] so should i rollback my code to the old version? [13:11:38] not sure if we need another security review or what the process will be [13:12:07] Merlissimo: not sure [13:12:22] not sure when there will be bots on wikidata.org vs. we update [13:12:56] it is only a renaming which could be easily backported [13:13:20] don't know [13:14:58] Vito_away: the beer entity is confusing wikidata [13:15:50] The wikitech-l has already been notified about breaking changes in the API [13:16:17] Merlissimo: i'd say no about the backporting [13:16:48] An updated branch of wikidata will suddenly appear.. ;) [13:16:53] * aude doesn't work on the api though [13:18:04] * Vito_away hates editconflicts [13:19:17] jeblad_WMDE: does the wikidata.org branch already support arrays? [13:19:21] Vito_away: i think there's some room for improvement there but not sure when/what that will happen [13:19:22] We havn't completed the code for patching items, but it will basically work as if there were no edit conflicts [13:19:45] if i edit a completely different site link from someone else, i think it should auto merge the conflict [13:19:58] but doesn't appear to do that yet [13:19:58] yep, there's much room for improving edit-conflict management :D [13:20:06] even on wikipedia too, though [13:20:12] Merlissimo: Not sure if that code got in .. or if it was part of the backport [13:20:15] the code is a bit ugly for edit conflicts :o [13:20:18] actually the error message for duplicate entry should give an easy way to solve it [13:20:28] at least a link to the other entry [13:20:33] * aude nods [13:21:00] if you want to note that here: http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Contact_the_development_team [13:21:03] that would help [13:21:10] Oh,.. it is a way to find duplicate entries... [13:21:12] to make sure we don't forget [13:21:13] * jeblad_WMDE slaps head [13:21:24] anyway I can understand editconflict is quite harder to manage on wikidata than on wikipedia [13:22:35] We have a quite nice piece of code to do diff/patching [13:23:24] The reson why the code is not already doing patching is because we needed something up and running and I messed around for to long [13:24:43] * jeblad_WMDE is master of fuckups [13:24:53] lol [13:24:58] oh please. [13:25:12] jeblad_WMDE: you're not the master :) [13:25:21] !nyan [13:25:21] ~=[,,_,,]:3 [13:25:27] :) [13:27:31] jeblad_WMDE: nonsense :) [13:27:38] as so often i disagree with you [13:28:20] but yes, it iwll be nice to see the merge code up and running, but we really need to get our prios settled [13:28:49] 48 hours days? [13:29:27] Can anybody explain to me whats going on here? https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/30736/1/lib/resources/wikibase.ui.PropertyEditTool.EditableValue.SiteIdInterface.js [13:29:47] cr-lf stuff? [13:31:43] line ending stuff, yes. not sure exactly what, though [13:41:34] guys, I don't know if you noticed that [13:41:45] but "Create an item" is missing on the left column [13:41:59] is it voluntary? [13:42:25] Sannita: yes for now [13:42:33] Lydia_WMDE: oh, thanks [13:43:45] * jeblad_WMDE have a "mess up gene" which is quite unique [13:53:40] Are Wikidata URIs currently deferencable? [13:54:56] csarven: if you mean the linked data sense, no not yet [13:55:04] Yes. Thanks. [13:56:31] Do you have an ETA on that or when do you reckon the URIs are /safe enough/ for interlinking? [13:57:12] no ETA [13:59:14] Change on 12meta_wikimedia a page Wikidata was modified, changed by Denny Vrandečić (WMDE) link https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=4356408 edit summary: [14:01:16] I'm diong some config changes on the test client (en first, then he). Hope you won't notice it. ;) [14:02:41] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30736 [14:10:41] Denny_WMDE: we need a plan for making cononical URIs discoverable [14:12:22] I'd just take some of the code from SMW for that, especially the URI derefencer and the meta link in the header. [14:12:47] that should be sufficient [14:13:15] GERRIT!! =[ [14:13:34] MAILMAN! [14:13:38] -.- [14:14:20] Denny_WMDE: ok. [14:14:21] hm... so... [14:14:37] Denny_WMDE: i'm about done with my backlog, would look into the change propagation stuff now. [14:14:42] or do you have anything urgent? [14:15:38] i guess i could look into Bug 41491 [14:15:47] oh, also... [14:16:47] Denny_WMDE, aude, AnjaJ_WMDE: what's the status of the jenkins failures? [14:17:05] no idea [14:17:05] do we have any idea now why so many tests fail on the wmf install? do they still? [14:17:13]