[11:15:01] <Reedy>	 when does the toolserver go bye bye?
[12:05:09] <Nosy-phone>	 moo
[15:49:34] <akoopal>	 Dispenser: are you involved with geohack on labs
[15:49:35] <akoopal>	 ?
[16:11:31] <scfc_de>	 akoopal: I think that is managed by Magnus alone.
[16:12:03] <scfc_de>	 http://tools.wmflabs.org/ should list the maintainers next to the tool.
[16:17:55] <akoopal>	 scfc_de: ok, the question is more about the tool from para here for regions
[16:18:01] <akoopal>	 I need that migrated
[16:20:20] <akoopal>	 so //toolserver.org/~para/region.php
[16:26:19] <scfc_de>	 akoopal: That needs admin attention, AFAICS.  While para seems to have licensed its tools under GPL2 and region.php is readable, he accesses a database and a table worldadmin98 that - I assume - isn't accessible publicly.  So that table either needs to be dumped or (better) sourced from a public source (US gov?  OSM?).
[16:27:43] <akoopal>	 scfc_de: hmm, ok
[16:27:59] <akoopal>	 the locator tool I maintain is softly depending on it
[16:32:07] <scfc_de>	 akoopal: If region.php uses the PostgreSQL server for spatial queries, we'd also have to wait for the GA of PostgreSQL at Labs ("real soon now").  As region.php doesn't look very "nice" :-), a proper rewrite wouldn't hurt either.  Let's squat a tool name at Labs.  Hmmm.  "geodata/region.php"?
[16:33:05] <akoopal>	 scfc_de: hmmm
[16:33:26] <akoopal>	 geodata as names sounds ok
[16:34:30] <akoopal>	 integrating in geohack is another option I guess
[16:35:48] <scfc_de>	 Yeah, but geohack is only a consumer of region.php, and most coordinates from Wikipedia have region information attached to them already.
[16:49:00] <akoopal>	 scfc_de: agree, so geodata sounds ok
[18:54:54] <Dispenser>	 akoopal: Yes, but the labs copy of GeoHack was fscking rushed.  I know about the region.php thing and was improving or resourcing a better data set.  My situation is somewhat complicated as WMF is refusing to allocate resources for improving my tools.
[19:04:43] <akoopal>	 Dispenser: ok
[19:05:25] <Dispenser>	 scfc_de: There plenty of idiots on enwiki who copy the wrong auto-region from GeoHack.  My ghel database autofills that in hopes of curtailing that.  I was looking for better polygons, but its a memory, time, or computation tradeoff.
[19:06:18] <Dispenser>	 Plus the database is from 1999 and things have geopolitically changed since then