[21:33:52] jaufrecht or maxbinder: do I need to look at the doc in T152057 (which I don't have permission to see), or has everything relevant already been transferred to the doc in T149705? [21:33:52] T152057: Incorporate Editing offsite planning retro actions into Offsite planning guide - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T152057 [21:33:52] T149705: Lessons from 2016 Editing Offsite incorporated into TPG Offsites guide - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T149705 [21:35:01] probably both, to be thorough. I just shared it. [21:39:45] thx [21:39:57] (I was really hoping for the other answer :D ) [22:03:11] kristenlans: jaufrecht tea? [22:03:19] oh snap [22:03:24] oops, coming [22:03:31] maxbinder: I'm gona have to skip today [22:03:38] ;-( [22:51:45] jaufrecht: I hate the way the Georgia font shows digits. Every time I see one, I want to switch fonts [22:53:18] It's a feature. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1orYjI82Y4X2VA3xe3XymyJy0n03WZ7Gad1XSh-FeYjA/edit. [22:53:55] here is your spiritual sibling: http://graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/questions/7284/looking-for-a-font-similar-to-georgia-but-without-the-numbers-dipping-as-they-d [22:56:01] I'm sad that https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Source+Serif+Pro#charset botches the il1 distinction, that being one of the fundamental requirements for any font with "source" in the name, and something that was done well in Source Pro. [22:56:16] so basically you're asking me to use a 12th century font [22:57:05] technically the 1 and l in Source Serif Pro are different....just really hard to tell at a glance [22:57:07] no, I'm saying that descending numbers is a feature of older fonts, and lining numerals is newfangled horsehooey [22:57:26] ok. I prefer the post-steam age newfangled hooey, thanks [22:57:52] it's amazing how many of the good fonts are near-clones of 200 to 300 year old typefaces [22:58:09] georgia is pushing me in favor of comic sans [22:58:47] http://typewar.com/ [22:59:50] got 9 in a row [23:00:33] ugh. there isn't even logic to it. 3 drops down, but 8 doesn't. 4 looks like it has a descender, but 3 and 9 are riding a bit too high [23:01:48] on typewar, it's pretty easy when they ask Time Roman vs. Helvetica. Not so much when they mention a font like Didot that I have never heard of [23:03:59] meeple27: http://www.landlubber.com/palatino/ is an example of the minimum argument I will entertain re: fonts. probably the only thing that could improve it would be citations, especially citations to Derrida or Foucault. Please write up your arguments with a similar amount of examples and reasoning. [23:07:13] I just want a font with minimal serifs, where I can distinguish Il1 and 0O. And I didn't realize I had to ask, but one where everything (including digits) lines up. Done. [23:08:57] minimal serifs or no serifs? [23:10:03] http://programmingfonts.org/