[05:41:13] @basvb some identifiers don't point to any image in AM for e.g. http://am.adlibhosting.com/amonline/details/collect/90872 [13:02:58] The first draft of wiki doc is here https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Infobliss/Glam2Commons [13:04:48] "Suggesting a new GLAM" needs to be updated. We need to discuss how one may suggest a new GLAM. [13:12:12] hi [13:13:15] yep for amsterdam museum there are indeed some without an image [13:13:24] I think they return false or something [13:13:32] you can make that into something more suitable [13:14:33] glam2commons page looks good [13:14:37] I will go over it later today [13:15:01] we can use the talk page for suggesting new glams/ as well as phabricator tickets [13:15:22] I'll go over glam2commons in a few hours [13:15:50] the documentation page [15:47:22] alright [16:55:24] @zhuyifei : pywikibot.exceptions.NoUsername: Failed OAuth authentication for commons:commons: The authorization headers in your request are not valid: No approved grant was found for that authorization token. [16:55:49] I get this error sometimes on clicking Upload button [18:00:40] hi [18:00:51] hello [18:01:29] I think zhuyifei won't be here for a few days [18:01:44] ok [18:02:07] he has told yesterday that he won't be here in his mornings [18:03:19] that problem of the day before yesterday was not due to server getting overloaded [18:03:34] it was because some identifiers in NA had more than one images [18:03:56] so I changed the code to consider the first image only in those cases [18:04:39] for e.g.: http://www.gahetna.nl/beeldbank-api/zoek/1349a2b0-34fa-91b2-8a83-bc5283c47ea4 [18:06:04] Do you have any suggestion here? [18:10:53] the first image is the interesting one [18:11:05] not sure if the interesting one is always first [18:12:03] it is absurd to have more than one image for one id [18:12:14] on the GLAM's part [18:13:13] I don't know what the logic may be [18:21:29] same is the case for amsterdam museum [18:21:38] and the other is often the backside of the image here [18:21:47] so strictly it's concerning one object [18:22:32] Ok I see [18:23:09] Is there a way to know which is the front side or the most relevant image out of the set? [18:24:55] no idea, I haven't come across it that often [18:25:03] do you have some more examples? [18:25:09] No [18:26:18] Have you had a chance to read the glam2commons docs? [18:26:32] and yeah I designed a new logo as well [18:26:48] I see nothing specific in the metadata you linked on the two images [18:26:57] I'd guess first is best, but would need some more example [18:26:58] s [18:26:58] https://github.com/infobliss/sibutest2/blob/master/static/g2c2.png [18:27:21] alright [18:27:57] there seems to be some loss (stairs) at the edges of this logo [18:28:31] I'd also make it a bit less long, left to right or something, or overlapping [18:28:43] or one behind the other [18:28:50] but then glam has to go behind [18:29:12] or something like a glam going into the logo [18:30:11] ok [18:30:26] I don't see any loss of stairs though [18:30:31] there are 3 steps [18:30:36] https://tools.wmflabs.org/glam2commons/ does this fully work? [18:30:56] yeah it does [18:30:58] I mean loss at the edges everywhere, which results in pixelation/stairforming instead of round edges [18:32:00] May be so I took the best pixel quality the tool could give [18:32:45] did you take the correct file formats? [18:33:12] what is the correct format? [18:33:36] svg is better I think, not sure [18:33:41] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Commons-logo.svg [18:34:26] ok [18:34:40] I took svg for the museum image [18:34:50] well maybe should be saved as svg as well [18:34:52] and may be png for commons logo [18:34:55] but you can google the exact details [18:35:07] about differences on png and svg (I'm no expert) [18:35:10] ok I'll do [18:37:39] now the dropdown is loading dynamically at run time [18:37:49] good [18:38:03] but the sample url etc are static yet [18:38:11] I will make them dynamic [18:38:47] that should be pretty easy yes, think that should be part of the finished product [18:38:58] also provide them in the templated genericglam [18:39:46] sure [18:41:11] Is there anything you want to comment about the docs? [18:45:37] link? [18:46:37] "[13:02:58] The first draft of wiki doc is here https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Infobliss/Glam2Commons" [18:49:10] ow that one I gave my thoughts on [18:49:12] see the logs [18:49:28] I expected you worked on the how-to-add-a-glam documentation [18:50:02] Yeah I saw those comments [18:50:22] I thought you might have other comments [18:50:24] anyways [18:50:37] I will modify the how-to-add-a-glam documentation [18:50:49] and share the link here [18:51:12] ok [18:51:18] I'll just edit the glam2commons page [18:51:34] sure [18:51:59] you had said something about village pump as well [18:52:15] I am not familiar with village pump though [18:53:07] it's where a lot of general things get posted [18:53:14] I will ask some users there to look at the tool [18:53:16] make it a bit known [18:54:13] Yeah it will be a source of feedback for us [18:54:31] we have mostly fine-tuned the tool already [18:54:47] color scheme etc are in accordance with commons reco as well [18:54:54] I think there's still some edges, but feedback will help us there [18:55:23] true [18:55:38] when is the evaluation date? [18:55:42] 22 august? or 24? [18:55:54] 21 is when it begins for me [18:56:06] they kept the deadline on 29 [18:56:29] but encouraged to not wait for the last day [18:58:05] ok [18:58:12] yep around then it should be finished [18:58:13] 21 [18:58:17] not the end indeed [18:58:56] early feedback will be nice to have [18:59:20] so that we may make some minor changes if suggested [19:00:31] yep [19:01:00] btw I remember that you suggested to have 5 supported glams but later you said not now [19:01:17] we may add one if you say yes [19:05:24] you are free to add one [19:05:43] I think yes [19:05:44] but it's a few days work if done well [19:06:02] and I don't have that much time to do a lot of close support now [19:06:08] while on the other hand the quality should be good [19:07:03] at least we have a defined structure for the GLAMs now [19:07:05] I often got the feeling that you had quite some difficulties understanding how the mapping exactly works, because of the questions/mistakes made [19:07:39] true I did ask silly questions [19:07:46] and you wasted a lot of time on finding a suitable glam [19:07:49] but I learned along the way [19:08:02] that's why I stopped it then, because you spend a lot of time for little results [19:08:36] but if you have some time, sure it's a good idea to add another glam [19:08:42] please tell me which glam you have in mind [19:09:14] I don't have any glam in mind as such [19:09:20] may be you know better [19:09:42] you said you had around 10 glams in the Nederlands [19:10:22] yep but for the netherlands it's much better when I do them [19:10:29] since the language helps a lot [19:10:54] I think it would be good to make the tool a bit more international with other glams added [19:12:12] that's true undoubtedly [19:15:10] once you post in the village pump people may suggest new GLAMs [19:15:27] that might help to find a new one [19:22:16] you can also look around at the batch uploading page [19:22:21] it has plenty of suggestions [19:22:29] ok [19:29:04] I'm off for today, tomorrow I'll write some things to ask for input/feedback