[06:54:32] <basvb>	 Yes, I was planning to join you on point 1 (I  should also get familiar with tool labs) ;)
[06:55:02] <zhuyifei1999_>	 http://wm-bot.wmflabs.org/logs/%23wikimedia-sibu/
[06:55:04] <basvb>	 and point 2 I can help you with any questions + maybe we can have a bit more focus on the pitfalls of large content donations and copyright 
[06:56:08] <infobliss_>	 wow the logging is on.
[06:56:53] <basvb>	 We should also make some arrangements for meetings on set days + times we try to commit to
[06:57:48] <infobliss_>	 yes we had a talk regarding this just now.
[06:57:52] <basvb>	 I think you'll almost always find one of us here, but I think it is good to try to have 1 time a week where all 4 of us try to be here
[06:58:05] <infobliss_>	 yes sure.
[06:58:45] <infobliss_>	 what time is preferable?
[06:59:09] <basvb>	 something on friday-sunday is optimal for me, as EU daytime is not really an option due to work
[06:59:26] <zhuyifei1999_>	 I'm 8-15 UTC weekends, 10-15 UTC weekdays
[06:59:56] <infobliss_>	 I need a 2 minutes break. Somebody is at the door.
[07:00:01] * zhuyifei1999_ needs to setup wm-bot permissions
[07:00:03] <infobliss_>	 I am going to be back.
[07:00:34] <basvb>	 tom29739: what times would be possible for you during the weekends?
[07:01:06] <basvb>	 I think we'll get that answer in some hours
[07:01:11] <tom29739>	 Not sure.
[07:01:26] <wm-bot3>	 Successfully added .*@wikipedia/tom29739
[07:01:26] <zhuyifei1999_>	 @trustadd .*@wikipedia/tom29739 admin
[07:01:33] <basvb>	 ow I was thinking you were still asleep;) I was so early today
[07:01:34] <zhuyifei1999_>	 basvb: do you have an irc cloak?
[07:01:43] <wm-bot3>	 I trust:  zhuyifei1999_!.*@wikimedia/zhuyifei1999 (2admin), .*@wikipedia/tom29739 (2admin),
[07:01:43] <zhuyifei1999_>	 @trusted
[07:01:54] <tom29739>	 I wouldn't normally be on at this time, but I have some stuff to do.
[07:01:56] <basvb>	 not sure, basvb is my account I log in with but I use freenode
[07:02:04] <zhuyifei1999_>	 (um okay I guess I can stick to this username)
[07:02:11] <tom29739>	 zhuyifei1999_, * [basvb] (b255d421@wikipedia/Basvb): 178-85-212-33.dynamic.upc.nl/178.85.212.33
[07:02:13] <basvb>	 however I don't mind not being an admin
[07:02:34] <zhuyifei1999_>	 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC/Cloaks
[07:02:49] <zhuyifei1999_>	 tom29739: that's the host :P
[07:03:01] <basvb>	 I was thinking something on friday, saturday, sunday around 12-15 is ideal
[07:03:11] <zhuyifei1999_>	 sure
[07:03:16] <tom29739>	 "@wikipedia/Basvb" - that isn't his cloak?
[07:03:36] <basvb>	 i think it is
[07:03:39] <infobliss_>	 hi
[07:03:46] <basvb>	 but freenode still shows IP-adresses
[07:03:59] <zhuyifei1999_>	 oh right I didn't see that
[07:04:14] <wm-bot3>	 Successfully added .*@wikipedia/Basvb
[07:04:14] <zhuyifei1999_>	 @trustadd .*@wikipedia/Basvb admin
[07:04:36] <tom29739>	 The freenode web chat shows your IP in the realname field even if you're cloaked.
[07:04:40] <tom29739>	 What happened to djff?
[07:04:54] <basvb>	 see phabricator chat
[07:05:05] <zhuyifei1999_>	 see https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/Z527
[07:05:12] <basvb>	 something went wrong with contacting the university
[07:05:21] <basvb>	 for 3 students from the same uni
[07:07:14] <infobliss_>	 "friday, saturday, sunday around 12-15 is ideal" - works fine for me.
[07:07:35] <basvb>	 well lets pick one of those ;)
[07:07:48] <basvb>	 tom29739?
[07:07:59] <infobliss_>	 friday
[07:08:52] <zhuyifei1999_>	 I sometimes have other meetings on friday 13-15 UTC
[07:09:12] <tom29739>	 I'm busy on Friday and Saturday at those times.
[07:09:31] <tom29739>	 I can do later on Friday.
[07:10:11] <basvb>	 I think sunday is a good idea, it's the easiest out of the three for me as well
[07:10:20] <basvb>	 later is difficult with the time zones
[07:10:41] <infobliss_>	 ok sure.
[07:12:24] <zhuyifei1999_>	 I'm the easiest on Saturday, but I can do Sunday (not too much difference)
[07:13:38] <basvb>	 sundays 13:00 UTC I would propose
[07:13:48] <zhuyifei1999_>	 sure
[07:14:30] <infobliss_>	 works for me.
[07:22:44] <basvb>	 another thing to start with is get some structure in what has to be done on Phabricator (tasks for all the substeps in the project)
[07:23:01] <basvb>	 as it will give us some guidance
[07:23:12] <zhuyifei1999_>	 yeah
[07:23:15] <infobliss_>	 ok
[07:23:47] <basvb>	 but that's something best done with some discussion as it will also be part of forming the exact plan
[07:24:48] <infobliss_>	 basvb you had created a task "MVP for Single Image Batch Upload"
[07:25:03] <infobliss_>	 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T161331
[07:25:04] <basvb>	 Yep
[07:25:54] <infobliss_>	 Shall we add subtasks to this task?
[07:26:01] <basvb>	 I think best is to focus on 3 sprints (each month and their respective evaluation)
[07:26:11] <basvb>	 and this would be one of the main tasks for sprint 1
[07:29:25] <infobliss_>	 to begin with one task could be
[07:29:32] <infobliss_>	 1. Build a simple tool and host it in the tool labs.
[07:30:02] <infobliss_>	 so that I can get myself familiar with the tool labs.
[07:31:19] <basvb>	 Yep, but then I would be interested in what that simple tool entails 
[07:32:25] <basvb>	 Maybe that tool just makes a call to a GLAM APi or maybe it entails some flask code
[07:32:41] <basvb>	 but I think we can work a bit on these tasks together on a later moment
[07:32:49] <basvb>	 I now have to work for a few hours
[07:33:02] <basvb>	 I'll be listening in here a bit, but focus on my work
[07:33:14] <infobliss_>	 to start with can we just have a tool that allows image upload from local disk?
[07:33:58] <zhuyifei1999_>	 infobliss_: believe it or not, upload from local disk can be more complicated than the final product
[07:34:30] <zhuyifei1999_>	 ... or not ... depending on how you support it
[07:35:03] <infobliss_>	 oh is it? I am humbled :)
[07:35:52] <zhuyifei1999_>	 if the file upload is done via plain http it will be simpler, but it will not be able to async or support chunked uploads
[07:36:20] <zhuyifei1999_>	 I think you can try the former if you want (plain http upload)
[07:38:21] <infobliss_>	 okay
[07:39:27] <infobliss_>	 chunked uploads can be avoided since we only upload small sized files (images).
[07:40:13] <zhuyifei1999_>	 yeah
[07:40:48] <zhuyifei1999_>	 although fot the very final product you may meed very large images from glams that must be chunked-uploaded
[07:40:51] <zhuyifei1999_>	 *for
[07:41:12] <infobliss_>	 okay
[07:41:35] <zhuyifei1999_>	 eg. gigapixels like https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Elisa_Bonaparte_with_her_daughter_Napoleona_Baciocchi_-_Fran%C3%A7ois_G%C3%A9rard_-_Google_Cultural_Institute.jpg
[07:42:00] <zhuyifei1999_>	 (the image is so large that JPG format simply cannot support its size)
[07:42:04] <basvb>	 from when on is chunked uploads necessary?
[07:42:18] <zhuyifei1999_>	 100MB
[07:42:35] <infobliss_>	 even more.
[07:43:00] <zhuyifei1999_>	 idk if it's 100*2^20 or 100*10^6
[07:43:42] <zhuyifei1999_>	 https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Maximum_file_size ah 100MiB
[07:43:47] <zhuyifei1999_>	 so the former
[07:44:05] <infobliss_>	 okk
[16:34:24] <zhuyifei1999_>	 basvb: I just saw https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/Susannaanas/GLAMpipe
[16:34:36] <zhuyifei1999_>	 would that be somewhat related?
[17:31:08] <basvb>	 Aah yes zhuyifei1999_ I saw that a little while ago
[17:31:59] <basvb>	 the tool is focussed on power users, but I should definitely look into it a bit better
[17:32:07] <zhuyifei1999_>	 k
[17:32:25] <basvb>	 susan was also interested in our project, at least subscribed to the phabricator task
[17:33:45] <basvb>	 We (or me) have to define our scope a little better as well, nemo_bis made some points of which some are valid
[17:34:03] <basvb>	 the tool will mainly support a work flow where manual work per image would be needed
[17:34:03] <zhuyifei1999_>	 yeah
[17:34:25] <basvb>	 e.g. categorising or a collection where not everything is free because of derivative work
[17:34:56] <basvb>	 so there should be some specific instructions for the users using the tool which could differ per collection I think