[14:39:38] <_joe_>	 akosiaris: you're enaling coreDNS?
[14:39:42] <_joe_>	 *enabling
[14:41:32] <akosiaris>	 _joe_: trying to
[14:41:36] <akosiaris>	 moving slowly though
[15:12:54] <apergos>	 _joe_:  any chance of you giving or have you already given a 'how we use envoy and the stuff you should know about it' talk? because I'm slugging my way through these docs but dang they are long and there seems to be no short version of em 
[15:13:35] <_joe_>	 well the best summary is probably https://docs.google.com/document/d/13eDGv-uP0_QmbxjxgzQ9zycLY_uoH6CZP525mSPKK-A/edit#
[15:13:43] <_joe_>	 if you mean our plans
[15:13:52] <_joe_>	 still working on it but it's almost ready.
[15:14:35] <apergos>	 no, not the plans, though I am reading those
[15:14:49] <apergos>	 I need to know more about envoy before I can read those with any critical eye though
[15:15:00] <apergos>	 I'm just now to 'upstream clusters' and man is it tedious
[15:15:08] <apergos>	 in the architecture overview docs I mean
[15:15:15] <_joe_>	 oh yes, the docs are complete but boring :D
[15:15:33] <_joe_>	 not really organized to give you a quick peek into things
[15:16:11] <apergos>	 eh no
[15:16:18] <apergos>	 ok I'll ust keep slugging my way through them
[15:27:41] <mutante>	 apergos: the ticket https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T210411  is the one with a bunch of conversion to use envoy, you can look at the gerrit changes linked there
[15:28:06] <mutante>	 first you will need a cert and how to get these created is https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Cergen#Cheatsheet
[15:28:11] <apergos>	 eh it's envoy itself I need to understand some
[15:28:49] <apergos>	 aaaaaand meet meet meet anyways
[15:30:38] <effie>	 looking for a mic 
[15:30:40] <effie>	 coming 
[15:31:53] <apergos>	 mark: ^^
[15:31:57] <apergos>	 meet meet meet
[16:15:21] <apergos>	 well that was the most annoying hangout experience ever
[16:15:37] <apergos>	 after some point i had audio and video permanently out of sync by at least 5 seconds
[16:15:40] <effie>	 was it your netowork ?
[16:15:42] <apergos>	 for everyone
[16:15:53] <effie>	 we lost you as well
[16:15:56] <apergos>	 weird
[16:16:02] <apergos>	 I mean everyhthing else was working
[16:16:06] <effie>	 meybe you had a network hiccup 
[16:16:07] <apergos>	 so like here = 0 latency
[16:16:08] <apergos>	 just google
[16:16:18] <effie>	 I had issues hearing mark 
[16:16:38] <apergos>	 I heard him fine, just with someone else's video a lot of the time >_<
[16:16:58] <effie>	 I think the audio quality varied a bit mor ethat it should
[16:21:16] <apergos>	 oh well there's always typing :-P
[17:46:17] <wikibugs>	 10serviceops, 10Operations, 10Traffic, 10Patch-For-Review: Applayer services without TLS - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T210411 (10Dzahn)