[10:17:10] hi, do you know if there's a list of services involved in page views? or how to get said list, this is in the context of TEC6 outcome 2 "100% of services involved in page views are using centralized logging" [10:21:29] <_joe_> godog: well it depends on how we define "page views" [10:22:43] <_joe_> if you mean reading and editing wikis, I'd say all of k8s, most things on scb, mediawiki (minus the jobrunners), parsoid, restbase [10:23:00] <_joe_> this leaves out ORES, eventbus, eventlogging, changeprop, the jobrunners [10:23:11] <_joe_> oh I forgot to add - swift and thumbor are in the mix too [10:30:02] _joe_: yeah in my mind "page view" is html rendered on a browser, possibly seen by humans [10:30:32] <_joe_> ok then strictly speaking I think I got it all [10:31:42] sweet -- thanks! I'll gather a list of names too with the above [14:06:30] 10serviceops, 10Release Pipeline, 10Release-Engineering-Team (Kanban): Expose blubberoid to the public allowing CI in WMCS to be able to reach out as well to it - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T212251 (10akosiaris) [14:21:10] I like kubernetes so much at times... I just told it to deploy .. and it does so nicely [14:21:30] but ofc there has to be a balance, so watch out [14:37:26] it will wake you up in the middle of the night next week [15:10:05] 10serviceops, 10Core Platform Team, 10Operations, 10Performance-Team, and 4 others: Set up a beta feature offering the use of PHP7 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T213934 (10CCicalese_WMF) [15:10:28] 10serviceops, 10Operations, 10Performance-Team, 10Core Platform Team (PHP7 (TEC4)), and 4 others: Set up a beta feature offering the use of PHP7 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T213934 (10CCicalese_WMF) [15:13:44] 10serviceops, 10Operations, 10Performance-Team, 10Core Platform Team (PHP7 (TEC4)), and 4 others: Set up a beta feature offering the use of PHP7 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T213934 (10Zppix) Is the end goal to switch support to php7 by default? If so, what is blocking that from being set as default... [15:18:23] 10serviceops, 10Operations, 10Performance-Team, 10Core Platform Team (PHP7 (TEC4)), and 4 others: Set up a beta feature offering the use of PHP7 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T213934 (10Joe) >>! In T213934#4899142, @Zppix wrote: > Is the end goal to switch support to php7 by default? If so, what is b... [18:06:13] i'll need to bring this up in a meeting, not sure if serviceops or SRE in general: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T213566 [18:06:45] question needs answers _where_ certain imports scripts (Hadoop -> mysql) are being run [18:08:48] i am just being pinged because i started to puppetize manual stuff from stat hosts to be helpful.. then was told stat hosts should not be used. doesnt mean i can make the call where else it should run [18:09:26] mutante: ya was wondering...maybe that thing that runs the script could even be a k8s CronJob...? not sure if we are ready for that tho [18:11:40] i dont know whether it's serviceops stuff at all [18:14:08] certainly a ganeti VM could be created if requested. no problem. but whether it needs one or runs on mysql hosts or on analytics hosts or on a dedicated machine ..i don't know it [18:16:39] running it on k8s has some appeal to me -- at least, I think we should be working towards a future where k8s is a good place to run stuff like this. it's batch-y and doesn't need dedicated compute capacity [18:22:08] cdanis: i think folks like baho would need to be able to troubleshoot problems too [18:24:19] what would that involve -- being able to view logs? [18:45:57] do they need to run manual/special imports from time to time? [18:46:11] I guess that this will draw the line [18:46:20] between ganeti and k8s [18:47:23] volans: yeah they might, not sure. [18:47:48] yeha they will, if there is a mistake in the data, they might need to regenerate and reimprot [18:49:46] to better explain myself I guess it will depend on their workflow, if to run re-run or modify something they do change some code, get a CR, get it merged and then need to deploy the new code, or they need to manually tweak stuff for one-off things [18:50:23] ETOOEARLY to write proper english, I hope you got my point :) [18:51:02] afaict he will definitely expect to be able to ssh to sometihng to run them. everything so far seems to have been manual [18:54:07] and there is a comment "will all become apparent once we agree on an approach in this task" ..could potentially be a bit circular which is first. but it does sound more like Ganeti [19:08:22] 10serviceops, 10Operations: upgrade krypton (webserver_misc_apps) to stretch - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T210008 (10Dzahn) [19:10:32] i'd think ganeti (for this task at least) would be easiest [19:11:01] doing stuff like this as a k8s CronJob would be awesome, but I don't think this task should be the first trial of that :) [19:11:19] 10serviceops, 10Release Pipeline, 10Release-Engineering-Team: Pipeline: provide a way to rebuild all blubber images - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T214431 (10thcipriani) [19:12:29] ottomata: yea, agreed on both [19:14:52] let's tell him to request a VM via a subtask. maybe we can make it a tiny bit more generic than just for this one task. like named after his team.. dunno [19:41:38] <_joe_> I'll read all of this backlog tomorrow morning I promise [21:23:26] 10serviceops, 10Operations, 10Core Platform Team (PHP7 (TEC4)), 10Core Platform Team Backlog (Watching / External), and 4 others: Set up a beta feature offering the use of PHP7 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T213934 (10kchapman) [21:54:31] ehh.. i must be missing something.. does this not match mw2151? +node /^mw21(5[1-9]|6[0-2])\.codfw\.wmnet$/ { [21:54:55] i am on mw2151 but it's like it's not in that regex [22:01:46] 10serviceops, 10docker-pkg, 10Release-Engineering-Team (Kanban): Some HEAD requests to docker-registry yields 405 Method not allowed - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T214441 (10hashar) [22:06:11] 10serviceops, 10docker-pkg, 10Release-Engineering-Team (Kanban): Some HEAD requests to docker-registry yields 405 Method not allowed - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T214441 (10hashar) I have subscribed giuseppe/alexandros/fabian seems you know about the Docker registry/nginx. [22:22:12] 10serviceops, 10docker-pkg, 10Release-Engineering-Team (Kanban): Some HEAD requests to docker-registry yields 405 Method not allowed - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T214441 (10hashar) Or just now using: curl --HEAD https://docker-registry.wikimedia.org/v2/releng/composer-php73/manifests/0.1.4 ` nam... [22:46:57] 10serviceops, 10Operations, 10Proton, 10Reading-Infrastructure-Team-Backlog, and 3 others: Document and possibly fine-tune how Proton interacts with Varnish - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T213371 (10Jdlrobson)