[00:05:56] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Remove obsolete aliases from closures [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/473076 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T208951) (owner: 10Esanders) [00:06:55] 10Multimedia, 10SDC Engineering, 10MW-1.33-notes (1.33.0-wmf.4; 2018-11-13), 10Multimedia-Team-Working-Board: Beta Commons - label search not working properly - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T208955 (10Jdforrester-WMF) >>! In T208955#4741132, @Ramsey-WMF wrote: > This is working now, but the speed of t... [00:28:41] (03PS1) 10Jforrester: Enable VP9 by default at all resolutions, and VP8 at 1440p and 4K [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/473309 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T111909) [00:29:40] (03CR) 10Jforrester: "Next step is to drop VP8 to off by default, I presume?" [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/473309 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T111909) (owner: 10Jforrester) [00:32:23] (03CR) 10Brion VIBBER: [C: 032] "Sounds good, and should not interfere with production settings. :)" [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/473309 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T111909) (owner: 10Jforrester) [00:34:09] (03PS1) 10Jforrester: Disable VP8 by default at all resolutions [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/473310 [00:34:32] (03CR) 10Jforrester: "jforrester@mwmaint1002:~$ mwscript eval.php --wiki=commonswiki" [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/473310 (owner: 10Jforrester) [00:39:35] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: Remove obsolete aliases from closures [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/473076 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T208951) (owner: 10Esanders) [00:43:42] brion: Sorry for filing the AV1 ticket already, but I was at the Chrome Developer Summit and thought I should file them before I forget. Given that AV1 doesn't even have a reference implementation yet, waiting for Debian to release a version of ffmpeg into old is going to be at least two years, I'd guess. :-( [00:44:39] are they not counting libaom as reference implementation? :) [00:44:53] but yeah we're going to have to backport packages [00:47:08] Well, only if we want to do ingest ahead of output. [00:47:26] The wait for output support to be reasonable is going to be aaaaaages. [00:47:57] i expect we'll do dual-codec output for some time [00:48:11] which at least is not so bad with newer codecs using less space ;) [00:48:19] It's only ~30% better than VP9, right? [00:48:27] roughly yeah [00:48:38] The extra DOM bloat of pointing to two srcset URLs for every reader might not be worth it? [00:49:00] Until we get to ~50% market pen. for hardware-based. [00:49:05] ideally we move the bloat out of the HTML into the MPEG-DASH/HLS manifest >:D [00:49:15] Which even Google yesterday said would be H1 2020 [00:49:22] Well, that'd be nice. :-) [00:49:32] 2020 sounds aggressive. is that for new sales or total marketshare? [00:49:46] Sorry, yes, first hardware in 2020, not 50%. :-) [00:49:51] hehe [00:49:56] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Enable VP9 by default at all resolutions, and VP8 at 1440p and 4K [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/473309 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T111909) (owner: 10Jforrester) [00:50:12] So… 2022 for 50% marketshare, unless something amazing comes along that spurs massive handset churn. [00:50:18] AR maybe. [00:50:28] Aka, no rush on out part. [00:50:34] Err. Our part. [00:50:43] maybe... only so many pixels you can fit on a phone so 4k/8k is only useful for ar/vr stuff :D [00:51:03] Yup. [00:51:20] Less 4K, more 2 panes of HD. [00:51:45] i think the next thing is an AR view of a larger screen. you can pan around it ;) [00:52:20] like those 'watch netflix on your vr goggles' how is this a thing i would want hehe [00:52:25] Yeah, we're all waiting for Ready Player One's OASIS. [00:52:35] heh [09:42:06] 10Multimedia, 10Commons, 10MediaWiki-File-management, 10Performance-Team, 10Patch-For-Review: Support optimized WebP thumbnails as alternative to JPEG, PNG - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T27611 (10Gilles) I've checked briefly ~100000 images requests on an esams Varnish server, with the current thres... [09:53:58] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: build: Updating mediawiki/mediawiki-codesniffer to 23.0.0 [extensions/CommonsMetadata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/473421 (owner: 10Libraryupgrader) [11:51:31] (03CR) 10Reedy: "broke addWiki.php :D" [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/460177 (owner: 10Jforrester) [14:29:41] 10Multimedia, 10SDC Engineering, 10Multimedia-Team-Working-Board: Make MediaInfo work after recent changes to Wikibase - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T209491 (10Cparle) [14:48:25] 10Multimedia, 10SDC Engineering, 10Multimedia-Team-Working-Board: Make MediaInfo work after recent changes to Wikibase - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T209491 (10Cparle) 05Open>03Resolved Ah never mind ... this only affects a patch which hasn't been merged yet [16:31:49] 10Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseMediaInfo, 10SDC Engineering, 10Multimedia-Team-Working-Board: Captions editor should behave better when the API gives us an HTML error response - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T209502 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [17:09:57] (03PS1) 10Brion VIBBER: Correctly label AV1 codec in WebM uploads [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/473565 [17:13:10] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 031] Correctly label AV1 codec in WebM uploads (031 comment) [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/473565 (owner: 10Brion VIBBER) [17:16:32] (03PS2) 10Brion VIBBER: Correctly label AV1 codec in WebM uploads [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/473565 [17:17:11] (03CR) 10Brion VIBBER: Correctly label AV1 codec in WebM uploads (031 comment) [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/473565 (owner: 10Brion VIBBER) [17:27:05] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] Correctly label AV1 codec in WebM uploads [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/473565 (owner: 10Brion VIBBER) [18:23:45] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Correctly label AV1 codec in WebM uploads [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/473565 (owner: 10Brion VIBBER)