[00:16:17] Psh, Facebook just /had/ to one-up us: https://www.engadget.com/2018/02/20/facebook-makes-it-easier-to-share-3d-objects/ ;-) [00:28:03] 10Multimedia, 103D, 10Epic: Support the glTF 2.0 3D file format - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T187844#3987861 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [00:30:00] 10Multimedia, 10Editing-team, 10MW-1.31-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2018-02-20 (1.31.0-wmf.22)), 10Regression, 10VisualEditor (Current work): Unable to upload images in VisualEditor in both Chrome and Firefox on beta and in production - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T187523#3987874 (10Jdforrester-WMF)... [00:34:56] 10Multimedia, 10Editing-team, 10MW-1.31-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2018-02-20 (1.31.0-wmf.22)), 10Regression, 10VisualEditor (Current work): [Regression wmf.21] Unable to upload images in the wikitext and visual editors - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T187523#3987896 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [04:39:56] 10Multimedia, 10Commons, 10MediaWiki-File-management, 10Performance: File metadata gets refreshed when accessing the file description page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T179760#3735224 (10tstarling) It looks like this is deferred until post-send, so there shouldn't be a user-visible latency impact. I... [07:58:21] congrats on the launch! [10:57:11] lol the Facebook thing is quite the coincidence [11:13:59] 10Multimedia, 10Commons, 10Discovery, 10Maps, 10MediaWiki-File-management: Support point cloud files on commons - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T100081#3988611 (10TheDJ) [11:14:11] 10Multimedia, 10Commons, 10Contributors-Team, 10MediaWiki-File-management, and 5 others: Allow uploading of 3D files to Wikimedia Commons - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T3790#3988606 (10TheDJ) 05Open>03Resolved a:03TheDJ As there is now a blogpost on this, I'm calling it resolved. Any follow up... [11:14:40] 10Multimedia, 103D, 10Commons, 10Readers-Community-Engagement, and 4 others: Communicate enabling Extension:3d on Commons - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T158830#3988615 (10TheDJ) 05Open>03Resolved As there is now a blogpost on this, I'm calling it resolved. :) [11:14:45] 10Multimedia, 10Commons, 10Contributors-Team, 10MediaWiki-File-management, and 5 others: Allow uploading of 3D files to Wikimedia Commons - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T3790#3988617 (10TheDJ) [11:20:19] 10Multimedia, 10Commons, 10Contributors-Team, 10MediaWiki-File-management, and 5 others: Allow uploading of 3D files to Wikimedia Commons - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T3790#3988633 (10Koavf) Note that .blend files are not allowed at the moment, only .stl [11:37:13] 10Multimedia, 103D: Support .blend files for 3D scenes/objects in Blender format - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T187867#3988663 (10brion) [11:38:37] 10Multimedia, 10Commons, 10Contributors-Team, 10MediaWiki-File-management, and 5 others: Allow uploading of 3D files to Wikimedia Commons - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T3790#2481941 (10brion) [11:58:44] 10Multimedia, 103D: Support .blend files for 3D scenes/objects in Blender format - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T187867#3988762 (10TheDJ) [11:58:57] 10Multimedia, 103D, 10Epic: Support the glTF 2.0 3D file format - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T187844#3988764 (10TheDJ) [12:03:44] 10Multimedia, 10Commons, 10Discovery, 10Maps, 10MediaWiki-File-management: Support point cloud files on commons - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T100081#1304812 (10TheDJ) Could some of the original authors of this tickets please update the description of this ticket with something more detailed than t... [12:05:01] 10Multimedia, 10Commons, 10MediaWiki-File-management: Support IIIF Image API for thumbnailing & tiling of images - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T187872#3988771 (10brion) [12:13:06] 10Multimedia, 10Commons, 10MediaWiki-File-management: Extension for interactive media based on IIIF Presentation API - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T187873#3988800 (10brion) [12:13:31] 10Multimedia, 10Commons, 10MediaWiki-File-management: Support IIIF Image API for thumbnailing & tiling of images - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T187872#3988771 (10brion) [12:13:35] 10Multimedia, 10Commons, 10MediaWiki-File-management: Extension for interactive media based on IIIF Presentation API - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T187873#3988815 (10brion) [12:15:02] 10Multimedia, 10Commons, 10MediaWiki-File-management: Support IIIF Image API for thumbnailing & tiling of images - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T187872#3988771 (10brion) [12:15:07] 10Multimedia, 10Commons, 10Community-Wishlist-Survey-2016, 10Wikimania-Hackathon-2015: A new panoramic viewer for commons - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T105789#3988828 (10brion) [12:56:40] 10Multimedia, 103D, 10MW-1.31-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2018-02-20 (1.31.0-wmf.22)), 10VisualEditor (Current work): 3D viewer not initialised after visual editor edit - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T187551#3988955 (10Esanders) [13:10:18] 10Multimedia, 103D, 10Epic: Support the glTF 2.0 3D file format - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T187844#3987861 (10brion) Note glTF is supported by the BabylonJS engine - https://doc.babylonjs.com/how_to/gltf - which is under Apache 2 license. I don't know how heavyweight it is for a minimal viewer (it's... [13:13:54] 10Multimedia, 103D, 10Epic: Support the glTF 2.0 3D file format - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T187844#3988986 (10brion) Facebook seems to be using three.js for viewing -- https://threejs.org/docs/#examples/loaders/GLTFLoader [13:26:11] 10Multimedia, 103D, 10Epic: Support the glTF 2.0 3D file format - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T187844#3989027 (10brion) Peeking at the spec, the problem is going to be with external files for textures and binary data -- JSON glTF files can either contain their own data as base-64 data: URIs, or referen... [13:40:16] 10Multimedia, 103D, 10Epic: Support the glTF 2.0 3D file format - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T187844#3989059 (10brion) One more thing -- in the binary format, the raw binary chunk comes after the JSON chunk and has no footer/trailer at the end, so it'd be possible to create a binary glTF file that's p... [14:10:46] 10Multimedia, 10Commons, 10MediaWiki-Database, 10MediaWiki-File-management, 10SQLite: [DBQuery] SQL ERROR: NOT NULL constraint failed: oldimage.oi_metadata - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T187883#3989112 (10Czech.Fox) [16:18:20] 10Multimedia, 103D: 3D extension throws error if $wg3dProcessEnviron not manually defined - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T187902#3989621 (10brion) [16:26:20] 10Multimedia, 103D: 3d2png tests fail - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T187904#3989665 (10brion) [16:28:35] 10Multimedia, 103D: Use a better method for detecting STL files on the page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T187562#3978926 (10brion) See also T60478 [16:37:57] 10Multimedia, 103D, 10Design: Add "Level of Detail" (LoD) implementation for 3D files - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T164544#3237209 (10brion) Quick note about glTF (T187844) regarding level of detail meshes and textures: * textures in glTF are compressed (PNG or JPEG) and can be embedded in the file (b... [17:07:34] 10Multimedia, 10Commons, 10TimedMediaHandler, 10UploadWizard, and 2 others: Once it's not patent-encumbered, enable MPEG-2 support for Commons uploads and TMH/etc. playback - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T166024#3989870 (10brion) Note that for WMF production I think we'd also need to change our thumbo... [17:29:47] 10Multimedia, 103D, 10MW-1.31-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2018-02-06 (1.31.0-wmf.20)), 10Multimedia-Team-Working-Board, 10Patch-For-Review: "3D" text overlays "Loading image" placeholder in between loading of preview image - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T186854#3990013 (10Ramsey-WMF) 05Open>03Resol... [17:30:19] 10Multimedia, 103D, 10MW-1.31-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2018-02-06 (1.31.0-wmf.20)), 10Multimedia-Team-Working-Board, 10Patch-For-Review: 3D loading placeholder doesn't disappear on Webkit - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T187192#3990017 (10Ramsey-WMF) 05Open>03Resolved [17:30:51] 10Multimedia, 103D, 10MW-1.31-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2018-02-06 (1.31.0-wmf.20)), 10Multimedia-Team-Working-Board, 10Patch-For-Review: 3D badge not always being added - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T187180#3990019 (10Ramsey-WMF) 05Open>03Resolved [17:32:33] 10Multimedia, 103D, 10Multimedia-Team-Working-Board, 10Patch-For-Review: Deploy 3D (STL) support to Commons - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T184728#3990038 (10Ramsey-WMF) 05Open>03Resolved [17:33:48] 10Multimedia, 10Commons, 10Gerrit, 10MediaWiki-Special-pages, and 2 others: Special:Upload prepending "== {{int:filedesc}} ==" twice (Commons) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T187302#3990053 (10Cparle) a:05matthiasmullie>03Cparle [17:35:53] 10Multimedia, 10Commons, 10Gerrit, 10MediaWiki-Special-pages, and 2 others: Special:Upload prepending "== {{int:filedesc}} ==" twice (Commons) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T187302#3990057 (10Cparle) a:05Cparle>03matthiasmullie (one second thoughts, I'll just add myself as a reviewer in gerrit) [18:11:21] 10Multimedia, 10Commons, 10Contributors-Team, 10MediaWiki-File-management, and 5 others: Allow uploading of 3D files to Wikimedia Commons - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T3790#3990189 (10Theklan) I have tried to insert it in an article, but I couldn't get it right: https://eu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venus_M... [18:45:25] 10Multimedia, 10Commons, 10Contributors-Team, 10MediaWiki-File-management, and 5 others: Allow uploading of 3D files to Wikimedia Commons - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T3790#3990364 (10Koavf) Theklan, the 3D extension isn't enabled on any other wikis yet. I have also inserted a couple but they don't... [18:51:01] 10Multimedia, 10Commons, 10Contributors-Team, 10MediaWiki-File-management, and 5 others: Allow uploading of 3D files to Wikimedia Commons - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T3790#2631777 (10matmarex) That will be fixed soon, see T187261. [18:52:55] 10Multimedia, 103D, 10MW-1.31-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2018-02-20 (1.31.0-wmf.22)), 10Multimedia-Team-Working-Board, 10Patch-For-Review: Showing Commons 3D file on a local Wikpedia file page results into a warning "...malicious code" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T187261#3990381 (10matmarex) For r... [19:02:50] 10Multimedia, 10Commons, 10Discovery, 10Maps, 10MediaWiki-File-management: Support point cloud files on commons - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T100081#3990393 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [19:02:55] 10Multimedia, 103D, 10Commons, 10MediaWiki-File-management, and 2 others: Provide a mechanism to sanitise user-generated non-STL 3D files to meet security requirements - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131723#3990392 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [19:03:02] 10Multimedia, 10Commons, 10Contributors-Team, 10MediaWiki-File-management, and 5 others: Allow uploading of 3D files to Wikimedia Commons - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T3790#3990394 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [19:04:38] 10Multimedia, 10Commons, 10Contributors-Team, 10MediaWiki-File-management, and 5 others: Allow uploading of 3D files to Wikimedia Commons - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T3790#3990396 (10Theklan) It would be interesting to note it on the blog! [19:07:36] 10Multimedia, 103D: Allow specifying the orientation of a 3D model when creating a thumbnail - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T164564#3237903 (10Esanders) Another example: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wicipedia_Cymraeg_2.stl [19:08:11] 10Multimedia, 103D, 10Epic: Support the glTF 2.0 3D file format - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T187844#3990419 (10Jdforrester-WMF) >>! In T187844#3989027, @brion wrote: > They'll need to be validated on upload to make sure no absolute URIs are used (evil!) or relative URI references left dangling (won't... [19:15:49] 10Multimedia, 103D, 10Mobile: Make 3D work on mobile - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T167423#3990447 (10brion) 3D has been deployed to Commons, but not yet to the other wikis, so files can be uploaded but not yet used in articles. It'd be real nice to have mobile support working when that further deploym... [19:22:29] 10Multimedia, 103D: 3d2png tests fail - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T187904#3990489 (10Ramsey-WMF) a:03matthiasmullie [19:24:53] 10Multimedia, 103D, 10Patch-For-Review: 3D extension throws error if $wg3dProcessEnviron not manually defined - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T187902#3990497 (10Ramsey-WMF) a:03matthiasmullie Thanks, Brion. Looks like the patch will do the job, assigning to Matthias for double-checking/awareness. [19:26:57] 10Multimedia, 103D: Serve .stl 3d model files with gzip compression - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T187930#3990504 (10brion) [19:27:21] 10Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-extensions-MultimediaViewer, 10Accessibility, 10Easy, and 2 others: Buttons in MMV are not really buttons and are thus not semantic - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T161612#3990515 (10JHunterH) If a