[00:13:11] 06Multimedia, 10ArchCom-RfC, 06Commons, 10MediaWiki-File-management, and 14 others: Define an official thumb API - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T66214#2784442 (10Tgr) Related: {T74328}, {T67383}, {T75935} [11:15:45] (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: [C: 04-1] "I really like this patch and I'm surprised by how well this actually works. Great :D" [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/320611 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T122923) (owner: 10Matthias Mullie) [11:35:36] 06Multimedia, 10ArchCom-RfC, 06Commons, 10MediaWiki-File-management, and 2 others: Provide semantic wiki-configurable styles for media display - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90914#2785321 (10Qgil) Please remember the next deadline in the [[ https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Developer_Summit/20... [13:37:34] 06Multimedia, 06Commons, 10MediaWiki-File-management: Issues with displaying thumbnails for CMYK JPG images - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141739#2785546 (10matmarex) OK, so I'm going to start by finding out which versions are affected. For a start, I reproduced locally, so this is not specific to the... [13:56:41] (03PS2) 10Matthias Mullie: Restore content after having gone back [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/320611 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T122923) [13:58:39] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Restore content after having gone back [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/320611 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T122923) (owner: 10Matthias Mullie) [14:15:12] 06Multimedia, 06Commons, 10MediaWiki-File-management: Issues with displaying thumbnails for CMYK JPG images - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141739#2785673 (10matmarex) ImageMagick 6.8.0 and ImageMagick 7.0.0 both thumbnail the files correctly, so this was broken in ImageMagick somewhere between 6.8 and... [14:22:00] (03PS3) 10Matthias Mullie: Restore content after having gone back [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/320611 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T122923) [14:23:52] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Restore content after having gone back [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/320611 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T122923) (owner: 10Matthias Mullie) [14:30:26] (03PS4) 10Matthias Mullie: Restore content after having gone back [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/320611 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T122923) [14:32:21] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Restore content after having gone back [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/320611 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T122923) (owner: 10Matthias Mullie) [14:35:26] (03PS5) 10Matthias Mullie: Restore content after having gone back [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/320611 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T122923) [14:37:23] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Restore content after having gone back [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/320611 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T122923) (owner: 10Matthias Mullie) [14:38:52] (03PS6) 10Matthias Mullie: Restore content after having gone back [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/320611 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T122923) [14:41:43] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Restore content after having gone back [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/320611 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T122923) (owner: 10Matthias Mullie) [14:45:04] 06Multimedia, 06Commons, 10MediaWiki-File-management: Issues with displaying thumbnails for CMYK JPG images - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141739#2785739 (10matmarex) 6.8.4 is the first buggy version: | 6.8.3 | {F4712736} | 6.8.4 | {F4712749} 7.0.0 is the first fixed version: | 6.9.6 | {F4712758} |... [14:53:32] (03PS7) 10Matthias Mullie: Restore content after having gone back [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/320611 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T122923) [14:56:45] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Restore content after having gone back [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/320611 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T122923) (owner: 10Matthias Mullie) [14:59:52] 06Multimedia, 06Commons, 10MediaWiki-File-management: Issues with displaying thumbnails for CMYK JPG images - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141739#2510108 (10Dereckson) To summarize a discussion on wikimedia operations: - ImageMagick 7 API evolved, A [[ https://www.imagemagick.org/script/porting.php... [15:02:30] (03PS8) 10Matthias Mullie: Restore content after having gone back [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/320611 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T122923) [15:04:32] 06Multimedia, 06Commons, 06Operations: Deploy ImageMagick 6.8.3 from apt.wikimedia.org - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150432#2785785 (10Dereckson) [15:04:55] 06Multimedia, 06Commons, 06Operations: Deploy ImageMagick 6.8.3 from apt.wikimedia.org - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150432#2785801 (10Dereckson) >>! In T141739#2785767, @Dereckson wrote: > To summarize a discussion on wikimedia operations: > > - ImageMagick 7 API evolved, A [[ https://www.imagemag... [15:52:25] 06Multimedia, 06Commons, 10MediaWiki-File-management: Issues with displaying thumbnails for CMYK JPG images - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141739#2785991 (10matmarex) Just for fun, here are the thumbnails (120x120px square) that MediaWiki produces for all of the problematic files reported here and on r... [15:54:17] 06Multimedia, 06Commons, 10MediaWiki-File-management: JPEG with CMYK colourspace not thumbnailed correctly (black color missing) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T38346#2786000 (10matmarex) This is definitely the same issue as T141739, actually. The same ImageMagick versions are affected. (I'm not sure wh... [15:55:31] 06Multimedia, 06Commons, 10MediaWiki-File-management: JPEG with CMYK colourspace not thumbnailed correctly (black color missing) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T38346#2786004 (10matmarex) 05Open>03Resolved Closing back again, this is a 2012 bug that was fixed at the time. For the current thumbnailin... [16:13:22] 06Multimedia, 06Commons, 10MediaWiki-File-management: Issues with displaying thumbnails for CMYK JPG images due to buggy version of ImageMagick - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141739#2786088 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:05Triage>03Normal [17:05:10] 06Multimedia, 06Commons, 10MediaWiki-File-management: Issues with displaying thumbnails for CMYK JPG images due to buggy version of ImageMagick (black horizontal stripes, black color missing) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141739#2786290 (10matmarex) [17:33:54] 06Multimedia, 06Commons, 10MediaWiki-File-management: Reply with HTTP 302 (temporarily moved) instead of HTTP 500 when a full-sized thumbnail is requested - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75935#2786425 (10bearND) Sounds like this is an implementation proposal for T74328. [17:36:15] 06Multimedia, 06Commons, 10MediaWiki-File-management: When a larger-than-original thumbnail is requested from thumb.php, return original image instead of HTTP 500 error - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T74328#2786435 (10bearND) Solving this or T75935 would help the apps and Mobile Content Service users a... [18:28:20] 06Multimedia, 10ArchCom-RfC, 06Commons, 10MediaWiki-File-management, and 14 others: Define an official thumb API - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T66214#2786655 (10bearND) Another idea I brought up with GWicke on IRC yesterday is to embed the original dimensions in the URL (either as query parameters or... [18:29:43] 06Multimedia, 10ArchCom-RfC, 06Commons, 10MediaWiki-File-management, and 14 others: Define an official thumb API - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T66214#2786657 (10bearND) > look into which users rely on the current thumb format The apps and MCS rely on the current thumb format to resize thumbnails dow... [18:37:00] 06Multimedia, 06Commons, 10MediaWiki-File-management: Reply with HTTP 302 (temporarily moved) instead of HTTP 500 when a full-sized thumbnail is requested - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75935#2786709 (10Tgr) The ideal solution would be to do this + cache redirects in Varnish and somehow resolve them in... [18:47:21] 06Multimedia, 06Commons, 10MediaWiki-File-management: Reply with HTTP 302 (temporarily moved) instead of HTTP 500 when a full-sized thumbnail is requested - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75935#2786763 (10Tgr) >>! In T75935#2786421, @bearND wrote: > Sounds like this is an implementation proposal for T743... [19:44:19] 10FileAnnotations, 06Multimedia, 06Community-Liaisons (Oct-Dec-2016): Liaison support for FileAnnotations - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T149626#2787106 (10Prtksxna) @Pginer-WMF and I are thinking that we'll need community involvement once we've done one cycle of the design process and have prototypes t... [20:21:37] 06Multimedia, 06Commons, 10Editing-UX-Research, 10MediaWiki-File-management, and 5 others: Story Builder - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150461#2787266 (10cscott) [20:30:08] 06Multimedia, 06Commons, 10Editing-UX-Research, 10MediaWiki-File-management, and 5 others: Story Builder - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150461#2787280 (10TheDJ) Some further notes: Even as a mind exercise, thinking out something like this might be very useful. It forces and allows you to go outside... [20:56:11] o/ [21:03:37] 06Multimedia, 10ArchCom-RfC, 06Commons, 10MediaWiki-File-management, and 14 others: Define an official thumb API - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T66214#2787386 (10GWicke) >>! In T66214#2786655, @bearND wrote: > Another idea I brought up with GWicke on IRC yesterday is to embed the original dimensions i... [21:44:43] 06Multimedia, 10ArchCom-RfC, 06Commons, 10MediaWiki-File-management, and 14 others: Define an official thumb API - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T66214#2787495 (10GWicke) >>! In T66214#2786657, @bearND wrote: >> look into which users rely on the current thumb format > > The apps and MCS rely on the cu... [22:09:10] 06Multimedia, 06Commons, 10MediaWiki-File-management, 07Epic: allow cropping images when rendered - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T9757#2787546 (10Tgr) [22:12:27] 06Multimedia, 10ArchCom-RfC, 06Commons, 10MediaWiki-File-management, and 14 others: Define an official thumb API - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T66214#2787573 (10Tgr) >>! In T66214#2786657, @bearND wrote: > Requirements for a long term solution should include, in addition to scaling, the ability to cr... [23:28:53] 06Multimedia, 10ArchCom-RfC, 06Commons, 10MediaWiki-File-management, and 14 others: Define an official thumb API - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T66214#2787864 (10bearND) >>! In T66214#2787573, @Tgr wrote: > Is there any situation where that information could not be easily provided alongside in a more...