[07:06:54] 6Multimedia, 10UploadWizard, 7Technical-Debt: Remove IE8 workarounds from UploadWizard - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T123220#1923873 (10Legoktm) 3NEW [07:25:15] (03CR) 10Nemo bis: "It's even documented! https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Gerrit/Commit_message_guidelines#Cross-references" [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/260955 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119686) (owner: 10Unicornisaurous) [11:18:56] (03CR) 10Gergő Tisza: "At the time of Unicornisaurus' comment it wasn't." [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/260955 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119686) (owner: 10Unicornisaurous) [11:41:53] (03CR) 10Hashar: "> I'm guessing I need wgFFmpegLocation set for this to work. @hashar, do we have that installed ? I only need minimal ogg/theora decoding " [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/262926 (owner: 10TheDJ) [12:21:01] (03Abandoned) 10Hashar: Test: DO NOT MERGE [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/251545 (owner: 10Paladox) [12:21:04] (03Abandoned) 10Hashar: TEST: DO NOT MERGE [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/251701 (owner: 10Paladox) [12:21:08] (03Abandoned) 10Hashar: Test: DO NOT MERGE [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/247917 (owner: 10Paladox) [13:40:33] Good morning team [13:41:01] * marktraceur wonders if prtksxna and matmarex are both back at home in sufficient quantity to do a standup [13:56:07] 6Multimedia, 10UploadWizard: Check uploaded images with Google image search to find copyright violations - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T31793#1924052 (10MarkTraceur) OK, so, to disagree with my past self... This seems like a thing that WMF could negotiate with Google (or TinEye) and run on new uploads t... [13:56:18] 6Multimedia, 10UploadWizard: Check uploaded images with Google image search to find copyright violations - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T31793#1924053 (10MarkTraceur) p:5Lowest>3High [14:02:43] 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10MediaWiki-Uploading, 7JavaScript, and 2 others: Large amounts of unwanted files (mostly copyvios) uploaded via cross-wiki upload tool (A/B test of different upload interfaces) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120867#1924066 (10MarkTraceur) @Yann I don't see the connection betwe... [14:06:12] 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10GlobalUsage: "File usage on other wikis" not updated - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T122061#1924077 (10MarkTraceur) @Yann so is this fixed? [14:06:41] 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10GlobalUsage: "File usage on other wikis" not updated - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T122061#1924078 (10MarkTraceur) p:5Triage>3High [14:07:24] 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10MediaWiki-File-management, 6Performance-Team: Use Chroma subsampling for image thumbnails (save 17% bandwidth and save memory on mobile) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T122242#1924079 (10MarkTraceur) p:5Triage>3Normal [14:09:52] 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10GlobalUsage: "File usage on other wikis" not updated - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T122061#1924081 (10Yann) I can't say that the bug is **fixed**, but it is not visible anymore. [14:10:11] 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10MediaWiki-General-or-Unknown: Links do not work in svg-long-desc, insane logic in nested message parsing - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T122369#1924082 (10MarkTraceur) p:5Triage>3Normal [14:11:03] 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10MediaWiki-File-management, 10Structured-Multimedia-Data, 10Wikidata: Provide a way to curate and fetch titles (short descriptions) for media files - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T122381#1924084 (10MarkTraceur) p:5Triage>3Normal [14:12:37] 6Multimedia, 10UploadWizard: Long time of uploading images on Wikimedia Commons. (Opera) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T122473#1924091 (10MarkTraceur) p:5Triage>3High Performance issues are important to me, but if we could hash this out a little bit more to figure out what' [14:19:21] 6Multimedia, 10UploadWizard, 7Technical-Debt: Remove IE8 workarounds from UploadWizard - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T123220#1924098 (10MarkTraceur) p:5Triage>3Normal [14:22:55] 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10Wikidata, 7Community-Wishlist-Survey: Allow tabular datasets on Commons (or some similar central repository) (CSV, TSV, JSON, XML) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120452#1924102 (10MarkTraceur) p:5Triage>3Normal FWIW, I have the following thoughts: * It should be a Multim... [14:23:57] 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10GlobalUsage: "File usage on other wikis" not updated - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T122061#1924105 (10MarkTraceur) 5stalled>3Resolved a:3MarkTraceur Maybe there was just a long job queue one day? It can happen. If you see this happening again, let us know, but if it disap... [16:03:12] I fear I joined the standup for nothing [16:04:07] * marktraceur leaves [16:52:43] Hey MatmaRex_mobile, how's it going [16:53:49] hello marktraceur, just woke up [16:54:21] Do you have anything on your agenda? I'm currently staring at Phabricator wondering what I'm doing with my life [16:54:39] I guess I could do the same with Gerrit [16:55:03] Oh, my, look at all of your patches [16:57:11] i'm still in SF and slacking off for a bit [16:57:54] MatmaRex_mobile: Come to the office! We can bitch about marktraceur behind his back! ;-) [16:58:25] You could have done that in front of me, it would have been more productive [16:58:51] tempting... [17:56:24] 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10MediaWiki-Uploading, 7JavaScript, and 2 others: Large amounts of unwanted files (mostly copyvios) uploaded via cross-wiki upload tool (A/B test of different upload interfaces) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120867#1924714 (10Whatamidoing-WMF) Mark, I believe that what Yann me... [18:05:37] 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10MediaWiki-Uploading, 7JavaScript, and 2 others: Large amounts of unwanted files (mostly copyvios) uploaded via cross-wiki upload tool (A/B test of different upload interfaces) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120867#1924768 (10Whatamidoing-WMF) >>! In T120867#1915462, @ElveyLDA... [18:31:37] (03CR) 10MarkTraceur: [C: 032] mw.UploadWizardDetails: Correctly pass raw mw.Message, not escaped text [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/260933 (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [18:33:21] (03CR) 10MarkTraceur: [C: 032] mw.GroupProgressBar: Remove unused parameter [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/260934 (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [18:35:50] (03CR) 10MarkTraceur: [C: 032] "<3 thank you so goddamn much" [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/260935 (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [18:36:32] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: mw.UploadWizardDetails: Correctly pass raw mw.Message, not escaped text [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/260933 (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [18:36:34] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: mw.GroupProgressBar: Remove unused parameter [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/260934 (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [18:40:00] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Avoid double-escaping [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/260935 (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [18:51:16] 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10MediaWiki-Uploading, 7Crosswiki, 7JavaScript: Do an analysis (SWOT, cost, whatever) of the benefits and losses of the cross-wiki-upload-function - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121013#1924937 (10Keegan) [18:53:11] James_F: i'll be there in half an hour or so :) [20:19:47] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Sync with kaltura MwEmbed version 1.7.4.1 [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/219773 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77150) (owner: 10Paladox) [20:25:45] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Update dependencies for MwEmbedSupport [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/182094 (owner: 10Paladox) [20:32:18] 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10MediaWiki-File-management: TIFF colour profiles of thumbnails appear browser dependent - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T123210#1925247 (10Aklapper) https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1179671 / T44827 for Firefox might be related? [21:31:57] MatmaRex: Do you have numbers lying around for the cross-wiki upload tool? [21:32:39] James_F: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120867#1908354 [21:32:52] i should re-run these, since a bunch of files was surely deleted since [21:32:55] Thanks. [21:33:03] * James_F nods. [21:33:28] and write a proper summary at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Multimedia/December_2015_cross-wiki_upload_A/B_test [21:33:56] MatmaRex: Mostly looking for broad numbers – number of users a day, number of files a day, proportion of files deleted, comparative to other interfaces. [21:33:56] Yeah. [21:34:18] James_F: compared to other interfaces, there are number earlier on the task [21:34:54] MatmaRex: Did you ever run a "number deleted" that was limited to files at least one month old? [21:35:10] Or similar [21:35:20] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120867#1876785 [21:35:47] (looking at new users only) [21:36:03] upload methods other than UW and cross-wiki are mostly used by experienced users and have near-zero deletions [21:36:35] marktraceur: not specifically, but some of the graphs include data that old. [21:36:48] marktraceur: files older than a week or two seems very unlikely to be deleted. [21:37:05] (even if they are copyvios that slip through the new file patrol) [21:37:20] So if we re-ran a check on files uploaded with the new tool, ending with files uploaded on or before December 11th, 2015, and checked for deletions, that would be the best amount of confidence I would have with these numbers [21:37:45] I don't trust Commons to get things done in a month, even, but we don't have enough data otherwise [21:39:50] got disconnected, say again? [21:39:53] 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10MediaWiki-File-management, 6Performance-Team, 7Performance: Thumbnail urls should be versioned and sent with Expires headers - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T19577#1925494 (10Jdlrobson) [21:40:02] 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10MediaWiki-File-management, 7Performance: Reduce amount of metadata embedded in thumbnails across site - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T100546#1315292 (10Jdlrobson) [21:40:03] oh wait, we have logs, nvm. [21:40:08] 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10MediaWiki-File-management, 6Performance-Team, 7Performance: Thumbnail urls should be versioned and sent with Expires headers - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T19577#223774 (10Jdlrobson) [21:40:56] marktraceur: probably can do. the code for this is on my github, btw, so you could totally just tweak it and run it. [21:41:05] (it's in ruby :P) [21:41:40] Ehhhh never mind. [21:41:48] * marktraceur posts to wmfall instead [21:46:19] James_F: I hope you enjoy that one [21:49:55] Damn it, email [21:52:50] I thought I fixed this shit [21:52:52] OK [21:54:14] marktraceur: psst, we're a different multimedia team, aren't we? [21:54:22] Technically. [21:54:27] the old one died in the eng reorg and a new one was created in paril reorg [21:54:28] or someting [21:54:40] We are the reincarnation of The One True Multimedia Team [21:54:52] april* [21:55:52] A new one was created, in peril. [21:57:11] I took advantage of ambiguity to create a bad joke, that's my thing [22:20:51] marktraceur: :-) [23:14:57] 6Multimedia, 10UploadWizard, 7Technical-Debt: Remove IE8 workarounds from UploadWizard - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T123220#1926035 (10matmarex) Wow, we have way, way, way more than this. We still have IE 6 workarounds (like that stupid 'javascript:false' iframe).