[00:15:00] 6Multimedia, 10UploadWizard: Allow users (e.g. me) to upload a picture I've taken of a freely licensed work and license it properly using the wizard. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121824#1889408 (10ElveyLDAP) 3NEW [00:30:09] 6Multimedia, 10UploadWizard: Allow users (e.g. me) to upload a picture I've taken of a freely licensed work and license it properly using the wizard. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121824#1889449 (10matmarex) Thanks for filing this bug! I'm not sure about which tool this report is. You're saying it's [[... [02:09:20] (03CR) 10Kaldari: [C: 031] "Code looks OK. Haven't tested." [extensions/CommonsMetadata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/231505 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T71914) (owner: 10Gergő Tisza) [13:05:19] 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10MediaWiki-File-management, 7Tracking: TIFF handling (tracking) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T64466#1890301 (10Micha) [14:01:52] * rakaar is prtksxna without a bouncer [15:27:09] rakaar: Are you going to attend the meeting this morning about the engagement survey? [15:31:25] marktraceur: Is it the same as the one last time? [15:31:41] marktraceur: Yeah it is. Nope, I attended the original one. [15:32:08] rakaar: Oh, okay, I thought you missed it, fair enough [15:32:16] The standup must go on! [15:39:39] hmm hovercards not working anywhere [15:52:30] At all? [15:56:06] marktraceur: Yep, nothing in the console either [15:56:15] Odd [15:56:32] Did the link format change somehow? [15:56:40] I suspect something that got merged recently. Also weirdly 2 months late [15:56:56] https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Popups/commits/master, see the last merge commit [15:57:28] Hmm [15:57:37] marktraceur MatmaRex: There might be a lot of noise from my end today. Liberation Day in Goa. [15:57:49] :o [15:58:46] That commit looks innocent enough... [15:59:28] Yeah…but… [15:59:45] All commits are guilty until proven innocent…etc? [15:59:56] I suppose so [16:00:17] I'd be more suspicious of https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Popups/commit/a087ea3334862fd1897adc817ce362a3d67d09e7 on principle [16:01:10] But it's not recent enough. [16:03:06] ugh [16:03:19] hangouts just randomly threw me out to the login screen. :o [16:03:55] Fun [16:21:09] rakaar: Since I failed you last time, what is the link to the feedback page you prefer? [16:21:30] :P [16:21:33] marktraceur: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_talk:ImageTweaks/UI [16:21:39] Thanks. [16:26:29] rakaar: As promised, Pretty Much The Same Email™ https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/commons-l/2015-December/007618.html [16:30:55] marktraceur: :) [16:36:42] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-Special-pages: Special:NewFiles is lame - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121870#1890618 (10matmarex) [16:39:30] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-Special-pages: Special:NewFiles is lame - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121870#1890623 (10matmarex) [16:39:50] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-Special-pages: Special:NewFiles is lame - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121870#1890611 (10matmarex) [16:39:58] MatmaRex: I guess we should stick with the A/B testing concept for any improvements to S:NF, right? [16:40:15] 6Multimedia, 10UploadWizard: Check uploaded images with Google image search to find copyright violations - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T31793#1890631 (10matmarex) [16:40:15] Then again, new users don't really go to it. [16:40:41] because it's entirely useless. [16:41:38] 6Multimedia, 10UploadWizard: Mark UploadWizard uploads with a change tag - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121872#1890643 (10matmarex) 3NEW [16:41:59] Easy improvement, helpful, good stuff [16:42:19] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-Uploading, 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikimediaEvents: Mark cross-wiki uploads with a change tag, but properly - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121873#1890651 (10matmarex) 3NEW [16:43:59] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-Change-tagging, 10MediaWiki-Uploading: Tagging file uploads with change tags is difficult bordering on impossible - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121874#1890661 (10matmarex) 3NEW [16:44:03] i'm gonna file some more tasks [16:44:41] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-Change-tagging, 10MediaWiki-Uploading: Tagging file uploads with change tags is difficult bordering on impossible - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121874#1890669 (10matmarex) [16:45:25] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-Uploading, 10MediaWiki-extensions-OAuth: OAuth file uploads are not properly tagged - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121875#1890672 (10matmarex) 3NEW [16:45:39] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-Change-tagging, 10MediaWiki-Uploading: Tagging file uploads with change tags is difficult bordering on impossible - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121874#1890681 (10matmarex) [16:45:42] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-Uploading, 10MediaWiki-extensions-OAuth: OAuth file uploads are not properly tagged - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121875#1890680 (10matmarex) [16:45:56] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-Change-tagging, 10MediaWiki-Uploading: Tagging file uploads with change tags is difficult bordering on impossible - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121874#1890661 (10matmarex) [16:46:04] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-Change-tagging, 10MediaWiki-Uploading: Tagging file uploads with change tags is difficult bordering on impossible - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121874#1890661 (10matmarex) [16:46:51] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-API, 10MediaWiki-Uploading: Allow action=upload API to tag uploads, like action=edit can - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121876#1890692 (10matmarex) 3NEW [16:46:59] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-API, 10MediaWiki-Uploading: Allow action=upload API to tag uploads, like action=edit can - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121876#1890700 (10matmarex) [16:47:02] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-Change-tagging, 10MediaWiki-Uploading: Tagging file uploads with change tags is difficult bordering on impossible - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121874#1890661 (10matmarex) [16:47:49] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-API, 10MediaWiki-Uploading: Allow action=upload API to tag uploads, like action=edit can - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121876#1890704 (10matmarex) [16:47:52] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-Uploading, 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikimediaEvents: Mark cross-wiki uploads with a change tag, but properly - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121873#1890703 (10matmarex) [16:48:10] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-API, 10MediaWiki-Uploading: Allow action=upload API to tag uploads, like action=edit can - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121876#1890692 (10matmarex) [16:48:12] 6Multimedia, 10UploadWizard: Mark UploadWizard uploads with a change tag - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121872#1890706 (10matmarex) [16:48:38] 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10MediaWiki-extensions-GWToolset: Mark GWToolset uploads with a change tag - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121877#1890710 (10matmarex) 3NEW [16:48:40] Hah [16:48:47] MatmaRex: Have some opinions about tags hm [16:49:10] 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10MediaWiki-extensions-GWToolset: Mark GWToolset uploads with a change tag - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121877#1890719 (10matmarex) [16:49:17] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-Uploading, 10MediaWiki-extensions-OAuth: OAuth file uploads are not properly tagged - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121875#1890720 (10matmarex) [16:49:17] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-Uploading, 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikimediaEvents: Mark cross-wiki uploads with a change tag, but properly - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121873#1890721 (10matmarex) [16:49:20] 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10MediaWiki-Change-tagging, 10MediaWiki-Uploading: Allow various uploading tools on Commons to mark their uploads with change tags - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121864#1890718 (10matmarex) [16:49:33] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-Change-tagging, 10MediaWiki-Uploading: Tagging file uploads with change tags is difficult bordering on impossible - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121874#1890725 (10matmarex) [16:50:03] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-API, 10MediaWiki-Uploading: Allow action=upload API to tag uploads, like action=edit can - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121876#1890728 (10matmarex) [16:50:07] 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10MediaWiki-Change-tagging, 10MediaWiki-Uploading: Allow various uploading tools on Commons to mark their uploads with change tags - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121864#1890727 (10matmarex) [16:50:31] 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10MediaWiki-Change-tagging, 10MediaWiki-Uploading: Allow various uploading tools on Commons to mark their uploads with change tags - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121864#1890544 (10matmarex) [16:50:34] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-Special-pages: Special:NewFiles is lame - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121870#1890729 (10matmarex) [16:50:57] hmm, that should be enough for now [16:50:59] marktraceur: yeah> [16:51:00] ? [16:51:54] MatmaRex: Just observing :) [16:53:20] marktraceur: i guess my thinking goes, upload patrolling is hindered by thousands of guaranteed-good uploads from semi-automated tools, and hindered by not recognizing high-risk uploads [16:53:35] Right. [16:53:52] MatmaRex: Did you file one about Flickr uploads from UploadWizard? [16:53:57] That should be feasible. [16:54:07] oh, i didn't, but thought about it! yes, that too [16:54:31] * MatmaRex files [16:55:05] 6Multimedia, 10UploadWizard: Mark UploadWizard Flickr uploads with a separate change tag - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121880#1890758 (10matmarex) 3NEW [16:55:12] 6Multimedia, 10UploadWizard: Mark UploadWizard uploads with a change tag - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121872#1890767 (10matmarex) [16:55:13] 6Multimedia, 10UploadWizard: Mark UploadWizard Flickr uploads with a separate change tag - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121880#1890766 (10matmarex) [16:55:15] Would be much easier if bawolff and I had finished our backend checking for Flickr uploads [17:07:02] 6Multimedia, 10UploadWizard: UploadWizard progress bar has disappeared - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121885#1890814 (10matmarex) 3NEW a:3MarkTraceur [17:07:13] (03PS3) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: Fix upload progress bar [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/259789 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121885) (owner: 10MarkTraceur) [17:07:20] (03PS4) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: Fix upload progress bar [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/259789 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121885) (owner: 10MarkTraceur) [17:39:54] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-API, 10MediaWiki-Uploading: Allow action=upload API to tag uploads, like action=edit can - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121876#1890936 (10Anomie) [18:21:39] 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 6Design Research Backlog, 10UploadWizard: Review UploadWizard UX for "fatal user errors" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77820#1891063 (10aripstra) Please let us in design research know when you need us to take a look. Happy to help, looks like we could, need timeline info. Than... [18:28:17] 6Multimedia, 10UploadWizard: UploadWizard rejecting valid PDFs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121896#1891100 (10harej-NIOSH) 3NEW [18:29:05] 6Multimedia, 10UploadWizard: UploadWizard rejecting valid PDFs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121896#1891108 (10harej-NIOSH) Incidentally, the file seems to have uploaded to Phabricator just fine! [18:30:35] (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: [C: 032] Fix upload progress bar [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/259789 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121885) (owner: 10MarkTraceur) [18:38:39] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Fix upload progress bar [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/259789 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121885) (owner: 10MarkTraceur) [18:39:06] Yay [18:39:13] Still broken for weeks. [18:47:24] 6Multimedia, 10UploadWizard, 7Performance: UploadWizard UI performance abysmal when adding many files to upload at once - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121901#1891214 (10matmarex) 3NEW [18:47:35] marktraceur: since you were looking for UW things to work on. ^ :D [18:47:46] Is it too late to change my mind? [18:47:56] * marktraceur looks [18:48:47] MatmaRex: Is that 36 seconds from closing the dialog to the interface being rendered? [18:49:09] marktraceur: to the interface responding, yes. [18:49:12] Hrrm [18:49:19] (i could see it being rendered, file by file, while it was churning) [18:49:28] Gotta debug the sumbitch [18:50:13] (brb) [18:50:34] Funny thing is, I don't see any of our code in this. [18:50:36] I think. [18:51:29] Ah, nope, I'm not seeing the same problem. Weird [18:52:12] It's more like 8 seconds for me, which isn't...terrible [18:52:20] I mean, it's avoidable, but given the uploads take longer, probably fine [18:52:47] Anyway, diving into the UI creation for UWUI [19:05:03] (03PS1) 10MarkTraceur: Kill polling for moveFileInputToCover [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/260059 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121901) [19:05:10] MatmaRex: ^ check that, it's a good idea anyway [19:05:30] I've been sitting here resizing and scrolling like a fiend for a while so I'm pretty sure it's working well [19:06:57] yeah, that does sounds like a smart thing to do [19:08:21] I think the reason behind that might have been browser support that we no longer need. [19:08:29] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Kill polling for moveFileInputToCover [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/260059 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121901) (owner: 10MarkTraceur) [19:08:41] ffs. [19:09:34] Oh, good catch Jenkins, I can delete more code now. [19:10:42] (03PS2) 10MarkTraceur: Kill polling for moveFileInputToCover [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/260059 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121901) [19:10:49] onResize was actually a fake debounce method. [19:13:23] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Kill polling for moveFileInputToCover [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/260059 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121901) (owner: 10MarkTraceur) [19:13:56] 6Multimedia, 10UploadWizard: UploadWizard rejecting valid PDFs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121896#1891275 (10harej-NIOSH) It magically works now. You can close this if you'd like. Though it's worth looking into what causes a file to be rejected and subsequently accepted. [19:19:20] 6Multimedia, 10UploadWizard, 5Patch-For-Review: UploadWizard progress bar has disappeared - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121885#1891282 (10matmarex) This issue has been fixed now and the fix will be deployed to Commons with MediaWiki version 1.27.0-wmf.10, on Wednesday, 13 January 2016, per https://www... [19:20:44] 6Multimedia, 10UploadWizard: UploadWizard progress bar has disappeared - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121885#1891286 (10matmarex) 5Open>3Resolved [19:28:11] (03PS3) 10MarkTraceur: Kill polling for moveFileInputToCover [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/260059 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121901) [19:28:17] Fix one thing, break another...sigh [19:53:58] (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: [C: 04-1] "Thanks for this!" [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/258100 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120905) (owner: 10Sn1per) [19:59:48] how be the VE upload experiments going ? [20:02:30] thedj: it's… going, i guess. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Tags search for 'cross-wiki-upload-' [20:03:09] i wasn't really watching how many are getting nuked so far. [20:06:27] but no feedback by experienced users on the four options yet ? [20:07:57] thedj: a few people commented on https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Administrators'_noticeboard#Interface_options_for_A.2FB_test and the phab task [20:19:36] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-Uploading: UploadWizard rejecting valid PDFs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121896#1891432 (10matmarex) [20:20:56] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-Uploading: UploadWizard rejecting valid PDFs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121896#1891434 (10matmarex) 5Open>3Invalid a:3matmarex Uploading that file also works for me locally, and I see nothing that could be non-deterministic in these checks (although I haven't checked it... [20:58:37] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-Change-tagging, 10MediaWiki-Uploading: Tagging file uploads with change tags is difficult bordering on impossible - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121874#1891515 (10matmarex) I spent some time digging into this code, starting with UploadBase::performUpload() (which seems to be a... [21:08:52] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-Special-pages: Special:NewFiles is lame - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121870#1891527 (10JEumerus) [21:39:55] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-Change-tagging, 10MediaWiki-Uploading: Tagging file uploads with change tags is difficult bordering on impossible - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121874#1891590 (10matmarex) a:3matmarex [22:06] RC rows are deferred to avoid contention and wasting time blocking th... [21:44:44] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-Uploading: Cross-wiki upload tool must avoid to add empty language templates - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121746#1891602 (10matmarex) p:5Normal>3High [21:45:11] 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10MediaWiki-Uploading, 7JavaScript: Cross-wiki-upload adds "null" as author - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121097#1891608 (10matmarex) p:5Triage>3High [21:45:21] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-Change-tagging, 10MediaWiki-Uploading: Tagging file uploads with change tags is difficult bordering on impossible - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121874#1891610 (10matmarex) p:5Triage>3Normal [21:46:16] 6Multimedia: create tool to crunch metrics for views (play started) of video and audio files - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T116363#1891612 (10matmarex) a:5matmarex>3None [22:24:47] (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: [C: 04-1] "Well, it's not working anymore? I loaded the page, resized horizontally, and got this: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/F3121700 Clearly " (031 comment) [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/260059 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121901) (owner: 10MarkTraceur) [22:25:10] (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: "(I'm not sure if this will help with T121901, but it sounds like a good idea anyway.)" [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/260059 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121901) (owner: 10MarkTraceur)