[00:38:36] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-File-management, 10Parsoid, 6Performance-Team, and 3 others: Use content hash based image / thumb URLs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T66214#710654 (10GWicke)
[01:16:57] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10Internet-Archive, 10MediaWiki-API, 10MediaWiki-File-management: This result was truncated because it would otherwise  be larger than the limit of 12,582,912 bytes - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101400#1780517 (10Bawolff)
[01:19:53] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-File-management, 10Parsoid, 6Performance-Team, and 3 others: Use content hash based image / thumb URLs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T66214#1780524 (10GWicke) We recently considered making imageinfo responses cacheable in T116840, but in a subsequent discussion @tstarling mad...
[01:20:14] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-File-management, 10Parsoid, 6Performance-Team, and 3 others: Use content hash based image / thumb URLs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T66214#1780531 (10GWicke)
[01:45:36] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: Use String#trim rather than $.trim everywhere [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/250891 
[03:30:49] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10UploadWizard: Get rid of mw.units.js in UploadWizard - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117652#1780716 (10matmarex) 3NEW
[04:31:29] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10UploadWizard: Get rid of mw.units.js in UploadWizard - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117652#1780767 (10Babygirl.md7565)
[04:31:35] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Media: In the upload dialog, pre-populate date information from the file's EXIF data - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117547#1780771 (10Babygirl.md7565)
[04:35:42] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10UploadWizard: Get rid of mw.units.js in UploadWizard - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117652#1780776 (10greg)
[04:35:50] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Media: In the upload dialog, pre-populate date information from the file's EXIF data - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117547#1780780 (10greg)
[07:16:13] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-File-management, 10Parsoid, 6Performance-Team, and 3 others: Use content hash based image / thumb URLs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T66214#1780927 (10Tgr) Imageinfo responses are perfectly cacheable (apart from invalidation when the file changes, but that's a generic problem...
[09:28:47] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10UploadWizard: When using UploadWizard, clicking the "Next" button on the "Describe" page has no effect - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95599#1781044 (10Smuconlaw) Yes, I haven't encountered the issue for a while, so I guess it has been fixed.
[09:58:24] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-File-management, 7Accessibility, 5Patch-For-Review: SVG client side rendering - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T5593#1781139 (10Perhelion) Here a good example, as long as users do not show understanding for file-size, this would be one of the main counterpoints. [[ https://commo...
[10:35:28] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-File-management: Thumbnails of large PNGs are not generated - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T11497#1781217 (10Liuxinyu970226)
[11:13:11] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-File-management, 10MediaWiki-extensions-MultimediaViewer, 5WMF-deploy-2015-10-27_(1.27.0-wmf.4): MediaViewer intermittent image loading errors (2015 Oct) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115563#1781297 (10Aklapper)
[11:13:41] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-File-management, 10MediaWiki-extensions-MultimediaViewer, 5WMF-deploy-2015-10-27_(1.27.0-wmf.4): MediaViewer intermittent image loading errors (2015 Oct) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115563#1727476 (10Aklapper) Some data (screen size, canvas size, image size, thumbnail size...
[12:05:30] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Paladox: TEST: DO NOT MERGE [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/250951 
[12:07:09] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Paladox: TEST: DO NOT MERGE [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/250951 
[12:09:45] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] TEST: DO NOT MERGE [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/250951 (owner: 10Paladox)
[12:12:13] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Paladox: TEST: DO NOT MERGE [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/250951 
[12:14:49] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] TEST: DO NOT MERGE [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/250951 (owner: 10Paladox)
[12:16:37] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS4) 10Paladox: TEST: DO NOT MERGE [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/250951 
[12:19:28] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS5) 10Paladox: TEST: DO NOT MERGE [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/250951 
[12:20:06] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS6) 10Paladox: TEST: DO NOT MERGE [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/250951 
[12:22:05] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] TEST: DO NOT MERGE [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/250951 (owner: 10Paladox)
[14:45:43] <marktraceur>	 Checking in for the morning :) how is everyone\
[14:53:39] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Media: In the upload dialog, pre-populate date information from the file's EXIF data - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117547#1781836 (10Esanders)
[14:53:41] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-General-or-Unknown, 7Design, 5Patch-For-Review: mw.ForeignStructuredUpload.BookletLayout's DateInputWidget should have better default value - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115863#1781838 (10Esanders)
[14:54:08] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Media: In the upload dialog, pre-populate date information from the file's EXIF data - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117547#1781839 (10Jdforrester-WMF)
[14:54:21] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-General-or-Unknown, 7Design, 5Patch-For-Review: mw.ForeignStructuredUpload.BookletLayout's DateInputWidget should have better default value - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115863#1734838 (10Esanders) lastModified is an improvment but we should use the EXIF data if it is availa...
[15:00:14] <James_F>	 marktraceur: I'm well.
[15:55:17] <MatmaRex>	 huh, google calendar is down?
[16:01:41] <prtksxna>	 o/
[16:03:25] <prtksxna>	 MatmaRex: Need a link to the front-end standards meeting?
[16:04:33] <prtksxna>	 I guess not…
[16:08:07] <MatmaRex>	 yeah, i was going to ask for one, but found it now in my emails.
[16:42:58] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 5WMF-deploy-2015-10-27_(1.27.0-wmf.4): Cannot edit any image because while trying to edit an existing image, instead of "Apply Changes", there is now "Upload" button - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T116217#1743517 (10Jdforrester-WMF)
[16:46:06] * marktraceur looks for prtksxna, MatmaRex, James_F
[16:46:26] <MatmaRex>	 prtksxna and i are in the frontend thing meeting
[16:46:48] <MatmaRex>	 marktraceur: hey, how about you reschedule the meetings in the meantime? :D
[16:47:13] <MatmaRex>	 marktraceur: we should do 1700 UTC on wednesdays, and 1600 on other weekdays for our meeting
[16:47:28] <MatmaRex>	 so that prtksxna can attend and it doesn't clash with frotnend, as we discussed yesterday
[16:47:37] <MatmaRex>	 and i think you're the only person who can reschedule it?
[16:51:30] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS7) 10Paladox: TEST: DO NOT MERGE [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/250951 
[16:52:08] <marktraceur>	 MatmaRex: Done!
[16:55:00] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] TEST: DO NOT MERGE [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/250951 (owner: 10Paladox)
[16:56:41] <marktraceur>	 We finished the meeting without you.
[16:56:48] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS8) 10Paladox: TEST: DO NOT MERGE [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/250951 
[16:57:30] <prtksxna>	 Google Calendar down for me now :\
[16:57:35] <prtksxna>	 *me too
[16:57:44] <MatmaRex>	 alright
[16:58:06] <MatmaRex>	 marktraceur: they don't seem to have moved on my calendar
[16:59:08] <marktraceur>	 Errr
[16:59:12] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] TEST: DO NOT MERGE [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/250951 (owner: 10Paladox)
[17:01:14] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS9) 10Paladox: TEST: DO NOT MERGE [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/250951 
[17:01:45] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10UploadWizard: Replace usage of jquery.tipsy with OOUI PopupWidgets - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115637#1782310 (10matmarex)
[17:02:40] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS10) 10Paladox: TEST: DO NOT MERGE [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/250951 
[17:04:20] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS11) 10Paladox: TEST: DO NOT MERGE [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/250951 
[17:06:00] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS12) 10Paladox: TEST: DO NOT MERGE [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/250951 
[17:07:59] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] TEST: DO NOT MERGE [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/250951 (owner: 10Paladox)
[17:08:45] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS13) 10Paladox: TEST: DO NOT MERGE [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/250951 
[17:10:13] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS14) 10Paladox: TEST: DO NOT MERGE [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/250951 
[17:11:30] <marktraceur>	 He's having trouble deciding how that line should look.
[17:12:14] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] TEST: DO NOT MERGE [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/250951 (owner: 10Paladox)
[17:14:41] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS15) 10Paladox: TEST: DO NOT MERGE [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/250951 
[17:15:37] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10MarkTraceur: "Having some trouble there?" [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/250951 (owner: 10Paladox)
[17:18:02] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS16) 10Paladox: TEST: DO NOT MERGE [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/250951 
[17:18:19] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] TEST: DO NOT MERGE [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/250951 (owner: 10Paladox)
[17:19:11] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS17) 10Paladox: TEST: DO NOT MERGE [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/250951 
[17:21:08] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] TEST: DO NOT MERGE [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/250951 (owner: 10Paladox)
[17:30:30] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS18) 10Paladox: TEST: DO NOT MERGE [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/250951 
[17:33:11] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] TEST: DO NOT MERGE [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/250951 (owner: 10Paladox)
[17:47:10] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Brion VIBBER: [C: 04-1] "Hmm, this doesn't expand the click target to the area of the hover -- so I end up trying to click on the video outside the button and noth" [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/250300 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117344) (owner: 10Gergő Tisza)
[17:47:20] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS19) 10Paladox: TEST: DO NOT MERGE [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/250951 
[17:47:43] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS20) 10Paladox: PLEASE REVIEW - DO NOT MERGE [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/250951 
[17:48:45] * James_F sighs.
[17:49:38] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] PLEASE REVIEW - DO NOT MERGE [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/250951 (owner: 10Paladox)
[17:50:59] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10UploadWizard, 7Easy: Clarify wording in dialog about unsupported file types which mentions Firefox and Firefogg - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T116003#1782765 (10Devirk) a:5Devirk>3None
[17:55:32] * MatmaRex hugs James_F
[17:58:11] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Paladox: "I'm not sure why it fails." [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/250951 (owner: 10Paladox)
[18:48:13] <legoktm>	 https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Graphs!_Visualize_maps_and_data_graphs_live_on_Wikipedia.webm if the transcode fails, is it worth reporting as a bug? 
[18:51:31] <brion>	 legoktm: "source file is missing"? yeah that sounds like a bug
[18:56:17] <legoktm>	 brion: ok, filed as https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117771
[18:58:38] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-File-management, 10TimedMediaHandler-Transcode, 7Swift: source file is missing, /tmp/localcopy_0fc79bcaac56-1.webm. Encoding failed. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117771#1783111 (10brion) Either SwiftFileBackend is returning a bogus TempFSFile instance, or WebVideoTranscode...
[18:59:24] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-File-management, 10TimedMediaHandler-Transcode, 7Swift: source file is missing, /tmp/localcopy_0fc79bcaac56-1.webm. Encoding failed. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117771#1783124 (10Legoktm) https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:A_developer's-eye_view_of_API_client_librarie...
[19:00:07] <legoktm>	 brion: also, I renamed https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Tech_Talk_-_The_MediaWiki_Content_Translation_Extension.webm right after uploading it, and it has no transcodes apparently queued? was that a bad idea? :/
[19:00:50] <brion>	 legoktm: you may have to requeue them. there's a bug in the system already about moving videos, not sure the current state
[19:01:41] <legoktm>	 hmm https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113191
[19:02:03] <legoktm>	 yeah, it's that
[19:28:14] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10UploadWizard: Use CheckboxMultiSelectWidget (when it exists) for checkboxes in metadata copier - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117784#1783401 (10matmarex) 3NEW
[19:28:21] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10UploadWizard: Use CheckboxMultiSelectWidget (when it exists) for checkboxes in metadata copier - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117784#1783409 (10matmarex)
[19:59:07] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-File-management, 10TimedMediaHandler-Transcode, 7Swift: source file is missing, /tmp/localcopy_0fc79bcaac56-1.webm. Encoding failed. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117771#1783583 (10brion) I can't find anything clear in the jobrunner logs on mw1259 or mw1260 (assuming those a...
[20:02:08] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10UploadWizard: UploadWizard is skewed towards images [Feedback] - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117795#1783595 (10Siddhant) 3NEW
[20:10:46] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-File-management, 10TimedMediaHandler-Transcode, 7Swift: source file is missing, /tmp/localcopy_0fc79bcaac56-1.webm. Encoding failed. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117771#1783618 (10brion) Another interesting one -- on https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:An_Ambitious_Wiki...
[20:23:35] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-File-management, 10TimedMediaHandler-Transcode, 7Swift: source file is missing, /tmp/localcopy_0fc79bcaac56-1.webm. Encoding failed. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117771#1783673 (10brion) Ok, I checked in with ops and @ori confirmed there are a couple things that may erase t...
[20:43:23] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: Stop pretending to support MW 1.25 and older [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/251120 
[20:49:10] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: Remove single-use utility jQuery plugin $.fn.readonly [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/251121 
[21:22:30] <James_F>	 MatmaRex: If only UW used extension.json you could actually state the compatibility programatically.
[21:24:26] <marktraceur>	 Pfft
[21:24:32] <marktraceur>	 paladox, get on it!
[21:25:07] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: Remove a ton of unused CSS (around 80 lines) [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/251124 
[21:25:29] <MatmaRex>	 James_F: it can't because of stupid dynamic eventlogging dependencies.
[21:25:43] <MatmaRex>	 James_F: and i don't even know how to access wherever the events get logged.
[21:27:06] <MatmaRex>	 marktraceur: more patches incoming, and you're falling behind! https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/projects/mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard,dashboards/default :>
[21:27:52] <marktraceur>	 Arghhh
[21:27:59] <marktraceur>	 MatmaRex: I'm so busy with a prototype!
[21:28:03] <James_F>	 MatmaRex: We could just break all event logging and see if people complain. ;-)
[21:28:54] <MatmaRex>	 James_F: i'm sure they won't, everyone who worked on that part seems to have been shipped off to different teams. but i'm kind of curious what data we have in there, maybe it's worth looking at
[21:34:35] <James_F>	 MatmaRex: Yeah. :-(
[21:46:56] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Media, 7Design: Give guidance in the new upload form, to prevent the most common errors - e.g. bad file titles - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T116086#1783919 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3Normal a:3Prtksxna
[21:48:06] <marktraceur>	 This is why I never write fucking PHP
[21:48:16] <marktraceur>	 You can set keys on nonexistent arrays
[21:48:22] <marktraceur>	 And PHP just goes on with its business
[21:48:25] <marktraceur>	 LIKE NOTHING HAPPENED
[21:48:55] <bawolff>	 wait what?
[21:49:12] <bawolff>	 that should at least get a warning. I would expect a fatal
[21:49:43] <bawolff>	 wow, you're right
[21:49:47] <bawolff>	 that's nuts
[21:49:49] <marktraceur>	 Right?
[21:49:51] <marktraceur>	 Jesus
[21:50:02] <marktraceur>	 This is what I get for trying to read ApiUpload.php
[22:06:47] <MatmaRex>	 haha
[22:11:13] * James_F grins.
[22:26:52] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 1020after4: [C: 031] Add php code sniffer [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/247294 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T38654) (owner: 10Paladox)
[22:34:03] <marktraceur>	 And now I can't even get a goddamn file name. Of course not, because it's an mw-store:// URL
[22:34:12] <marktraceur>	 mwstore:// whatever
[22:36:40] <marktraceur>	 AHAHAHAHA success
[22:36:51] <marktraceur>	 I have an API now, the world is my oyster
[22:43:59] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10MediaWiki-extensions-TitleBlacklist, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Media: Provide precise information for errors caused by title blacklist in upload image dialog - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115260#1784057 (10Krenair)
[22:46:16] <James_F>	 MatmaRex: Whee. Now you 'just' need to use the complex information in the upload dialog, UW and VE.
[22:58:21] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: Change label of preferences tab from "Uploads" to "Uploading" [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/251155 
[22:59:26] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: Remove grey horizontal line above the bottom buttons [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/251156 
[23:01:39] <marktraceur>	 FYI this is what my eeeeevil creations look like currently. https://lut.im/XcthUwMbmM/X0WmWcHRDNX3AzNI.png
[23:02:02] <marktraceur>	 Those are all done via API, I'm-a-workin' on a special page tomorrow (should be quick after a few li'l refactors)
[23:11:20] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-General-or-Unknown, 7Design: Surface both search and upload in a better way (not tabs maybe) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T116044#1784090 (10Nirzar) Here is a rough flow  When you open the window it will show the current commons interface but on the bottom there will be an exp...