[00:01:06] 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10MediaWiki-Categories, 10VisualEditor: Local categories rather than Commons's are prompted in the upload media dialog - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T116075#1740704 (10matmarex) This turned out to be much worse than I expected. A lot of code here assumed the local wiki. [00:35:21] MatmaRex: :-( [00:35:47] James_F: but hey, i wrote a patch and it works. [00:35:51] mostly. [00:36:15] MatmaRex: :-D [00:36:56] MatmaRex: Only marktraceur can modify the meeting because he doesn't trust us, so… [00:38:53] heh [04:20:37] 6Multimedia, 10CommonsMetadata, 5MW-1.26-release, 5Patch-For-Review: Create frontend API based on mw.Upload for Commons uploads - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T105071#1741041 (10TTO) Can we please have some documentation about this feature? The JavaScript module seems simple enough, but people won't k... [07:40:26] (03CR) 10Siebrand: [C: 031] "i18n/L10n reviewed." [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/212981 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T100106) (owner: 10TheDJ) [09:55:15] (03PS1) 10Paladox: Fix path to ApiBase.php file [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/247797 [09:56:07] (03PS2) 10Paladox: Fix path to ApiBase.php file [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/247797 [10:07:17] (03PS10) 10Paladox: Add php code sniffer [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/247294 [10:09:42] 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikimediaEvents, 10Wikimedia-General-or-Unknown, 5WMF-deploy-2015-10-13_(1.27.0-wmf.3): Add a change Tag to media uploaded to Commons through the cross-wiki upload tool - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115328#1741756 (10matmarex) 5Open>3Resolved [10:43:01] 6Multimedia, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Media, 5Patch-For-Review: Name the licence on the first screen of the media upload dialog - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T116046#1741793 (10matmarex) >>! In T116046#1740173, @matmarex wrote: > Now: >| {F2746558} | {icon arrow-right} | {F2746563} |... [10:46:24] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-General-or-Unknown, 7Design: Improve the license selection and upload process in mw.ForeignStructuredUpload.BookletLayout - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115867#1741796 (10matmarex) (The screen is changing slightly per T116046.) [10:49:18] prtksxna: hey, you around? care for some reviewing? https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/247762 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/247804 i'm hoping to SWAT these today [10:55:51] (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: [C: 032] Enable jscs-jsdoc's remaining rules and make pass [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/247739 (owner: 10Jforrester) [10:57:58] (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: [C: 032] build: Enable jscs-jsdoc's 'requireNewlineAfterDescription' rule and make pass [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/247738 (owner: 10Jforrester) [11:00:47] (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: [C: 032] build: Enable jscs-jsdoc's 'requireParamTypes' rule and make pass [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/247737 (owner: 10Jforrester) [11:02:26] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-extensions-TimedMediaHandler: Media files appear as broken on Firefox - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115706#1741816 (10TheDJ) p:5Triage>3Low [11:02:35] (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: [C: 032] build: Enable jscs-jsdoc's 'requireReturnTypes' rule and make pass [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/247736 (owner: 10Jforrester) [11:04:04] (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: [C: 032] build: Enable jscs-jsdoc's 'checkAnnotations' rule and make pass [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/247735 (owner: 10Jforrester) [11:10:01] (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: [C: 032] build: Enable jscs rule 'requireVarDeclFirst' and make pass [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/247734 (owner: 10Jforrester) [11:11:37] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: build: Enable jscs rule 'requireVarDeclFirst' and make pass [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/247734 (owner: 10Jforrester) [11:11:40] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: build: Enable jscs-jsdoc's 'checkAnnotations' rule and make pass [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/247735 (owner: 10Jforrester) [11:12:49] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: build: Enable jscs-jsdoc's 'requireReturnTypes' rule and make pass [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/247736 (owner: 10Jforrester) [11:12:51] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: build: Enable jscs-jsdoc's 'requireParamTypes' rule and make pass [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/247737 (owner: 10Jforrester) [11:12:54] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: build: Enable jscs-jsdoc's 'requireNewlineAfterDescription' rule and make pass [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/247738 (owner: 10Jforrester) [11:12:56] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Enable jscs-jsdoc's remaining rules and make pass [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/247739 (owner: 10Jforrester) [11:16:52] (03PS1) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: More documentation tweaks [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/247810 [13:24:08] (03PS1) 10TheDJ: [WIP] Don't show empty transcode table [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/247833 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115998) [13:25:10] 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10Continuous-Integration-Infrastructure, 10UploadWizard: UploadWizard API smoke tests falling because Selenium_user has been blocked on commons.wikimedia.org - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115465#1742130 (10Steinsplitter) I have reblocked the account. The account is still editi... [13:25:43] 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10Continuous-Integration-Infrastructure, 10UploadWizard: UploadWizard API smoke tests falling because Selenium_user has been blocked on commons.wikimedia.org - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115465#1742137 (10Steinsplitter) 5Resolved>3Open [13:51:01] 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10Continuous-Integration-Infrastructure, 10UploadWizard: UploadWizard API smoke tests falling because Selenium_user has been blocked on commons.wikimedia.org - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115465#1742266 (10hashar) a:5hashar>3None [13:56:08] 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10Continuous-Integration-Infrastructure, 10UploadWizard: UploadWizard API smoke tests falling because Selenium_user has been blocked on commons.wikimedia.org - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115465#1742290 (10hashar) Surely blocking the user again is a constructive way to priorit... [13:56:19] 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10Continuous-Integration-Infrastructure, 6Editing-Department, 10UploadWizard: UploadWizard API smoke tests falling because Selenium_user has been blocked on commons.wikimedia.org - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115465#1742292 (10hashar) [13:57:41] 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 6Editing-Department, 10UploadWizard: UploadWizard API smoke tests falling because Selenium_user has been blocked on commons.wikimedia.org - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115465#1724975 (10hashar) [14:00:54] 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 6Editing-Department, 10UploadWizard: UploadWizard API smoke tests falling because Selenium_user has been blocked on commons.wikimedia.org - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115465#1742323 (10matmarex) I agree with James that we shouldn't be running tests in production. [14:06:33] 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 6Editing-Department, 10UploadWizard: UploadWizard API smoke tests falling because Selenium_user has been blocked on commons.wikimedia.org - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115465#1742347 (10Steinsplitter) >>! In T115465#1742290, @hashar wrote: > Surely blocking the user again is a... [14:15:09] James_F|Away: Are we starting the new meeting time today? [14:49:36] * marktraceur fixed event [15:13:27] (03CR) 10Paladox: "Rebased." [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/247294 (owner: 10Paladox) [15:15:31] Aaaaaahahahahah [15:15:38] Finally got an API to work [15:16:17] o hi marktraceur [15:16:35] Ohai MatmaRex, what's up? [15:16:47] It should be said that I failed to /away last night so my backscroll might have holes in it [15:17:03] marktraceur: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/247762 and https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/247804 [15:17:16] maybe we could merge and deploy 'em today [15:19:19] > Usually. [15:19:21] Uh huh [15:21:00] MatmaRex: I'll look at 'em [15:22:22] marktraceur: "usually" stands for "on wikimedia wikis, but possibly not elsewhere with different config" [15:26:07] Hrrm. [15:26:20] I hate that shortcut but I also know we don't have a choice here [15:27:45] 6Multimedia, 10UploadWizard, 7Easy: Clarify wording in dialog about unsupported file types which mentions Firefox and Firefogg - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T116003#1742561 (10Devirk) a:3Devirk [15:33:10] I see how it is prtksxna [15:35:12] MatmaRex: Merged the license one at least, the other one is going to take some time to review [15:35:32] yeah, it's a big one [15:35:44] Deploying it today may not be a thing [15:45:47] Coming [15:52:38] James_F: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115465#1742290 [15:55:12] 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 6Editing-Department, 10UploadWizard: UploadWizard API smoke tests falling because Selenium_user has been blocked on commons.wikimedia.org - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115465#1742605 (10Jdforrester-WMF) >>! In T115465#1742290, @hashar wrote: > Surely blocking the user again is... [15:55:18] Blunt enough? [15:55:46] 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 6Editing-Department, 10UploadWizard: Stop running the UploadWizard API smoke tests in production - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115465#1742606 (10Jdforrester-WMF) a:3hashar [15:56:09] "I am the Multimedia Team and the Editing Department." I love it [16:00:00] :-) [16:00:05] Very Judge Dredd. [16:01:54] And how [16:06:54] ha [16:06:54] * brion will respect his authoritah [17:09:36] (03PS1) 10Legoktm: Only allow the Campaign content model to be used in NS_CAMPAIGN [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/247871 [17:11:01] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Only allow the Campaign content model to be used in NS_CAMPAIGN [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/247871 (owner: 10Legoktm) [17:11:09] wat [17:11:50] (03PS2) 10Legoktm: Only allow the Campaign content model to be used in NS_CAMPAIGN [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/247871 [17:11:50] oops [17:15:21] (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: [C: 04-1] "Actually, this looks pretty ugly in the current form (added screenshots to the task). We should give it a think." [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/244668 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114222) (owner: 10Prtksxna) [17:15:36] 6Multimedia, 10UploadWizard, 7Easy, 5Patch-For-Review: "Remove" button for individual files in the upload step should be a OOjs UI button - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114222#1742874 (10matmarex) Screenshots of proposed patch: {F2751468} {F2751461} [17:19:50] 6Multimedia, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Media, 5MW-1.27-release-notes, 5WMF-deploy-2015-10-27_(1.27.0-wmf.4): Name the licence on the first screen of the media upload dialog - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T116046#1742878 (10matmarex) 5Open>3Resolved [17:20:59] MatmaRex: Backport that? [17:22:09] James_F: yeah, we should [17:22:33] i'm still hoping that someone will merge https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/247762 and that we could do both [17:25:09] MatmaRex: marktraceur should; I decided not to do so. [17:26:29] James_F: can we steal edsanders or roan or someone to review it? [17:26:37] edsanders: feel like reviewing some nasty important code? https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/247762 [17:28:03] i'll look [17:28:11] Thanks edsanders. [17:39:15] (03PS2) 10TheDJ: Don't show empty transcode table [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/247833 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115998) [17:47:30] 6Multimedia, 10UploadWizard, 7Easy, 5Patch-For-Review: "Remove" button for individual files in the upload step should be a OOjs UI button - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114222#1742994 (10Esanders) Looks like line height issues. Also you might want to use a frameless button [17:48:18] (03CR) 10Brion VIBBER: "There's still a section and an 'update transcode status' link, which now shows no information instead of an empty table. Maybe add a text " [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/247833 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115998) (owner: 10TheDJ) [17:48:42] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] More documentation tweaks [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/247810 (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [17:50:17] marktraceur: Hm? [17:55:24] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: More documentation tweaks [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/247810 (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [17:55:40] thanks edsanders [17:58:46] prtksxna: We just missed you at the meeting :) [17:59:36] MatmaRex: Sorry I was afk :( [18:00:07] MatmaRex: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/status:open+project:mediawiki/core+branch:wmf/1.27.0-wmf.3,n,z for SWAT tonight? [18:00:23] marktraceur: I had declined the original one, and didn't see the new one till I was back. Sorry! [18:01:36] James_F: yeah [18:01:42] Kk. [18:23:32] 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 6Editing-Department, 10UploadWizard: Stop running the UploadWizard API smoke tests in production - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115465#1743213 (10greg) Per @Jdforrester-WMF in -releng: "We decided that we definitely wanted it deleted this morning at the team meeting." Let's de... [18:25:58] brion: i was thinking of adding a config switch to hide video.js behind, so that it will become easier to work on the videoJS stuff (instead of in one big patch). but it's probably gonna introduce a lot of: if kalture else if videojs end stuff into the codebase... [18:26:52] thedj: can we hide it behind high level modules? [18:26:54] ergo short term uglier code, but long term probably easier to switch. [18:27:12] We should be able to consistently output the same html and transform only as necessary [18:27:18] it can't [18:27:21] that's part of the problem [18:27:39] Then have the loader js load further modules based on the user pref [18:28:01] What's getting in the way? [18:29:37] well everything is possible of course, but our HTML is rather kaltura specific. [18:30:14] and I actually wanted to get rid of the whole thumbnails construct where we stuff an entire html fragment into a data attribute of a div [18:30:37] (and so does gabriel I suspect) [18:31:08] Yeah that can be totally changed out [18:32:25] Most of our videos are transforms so we can rewrite that into something sane [18:32:51] Audios tend to go inline... But in theory we can again make it more independent and then transform if necessary in the js [18:32:58] * brion ponders [18:33:29] I think it's worth it to be able to test this over time [18:33:32] it's one of those 'well everything is possible, but what is smart...' :) [18:35:48] i've been thinking that we should be splitting the hooks file anyways.... and then we can have Transcode.hooks, Player.hooks, Kaltura.hooks and VideoJS.hooks [18:36:22] with Player.hooks a wrapper around the two implementations. but the parseroutput will still be different [18:36:40] then later, we can still pull it back together if we want to. [18:37:18] i'd rather avoid splitting parser cache if we can [18:38:13] course i also vaguely wonder 'what if we just always used an iframe' :D [18:39:33] hmm. [18:39:55] sizing an iframe sucks though. [18:40:36] oh yeah that's another potential world of pain :D [18:41:06] if you want to do 'enlarge when starting to play' that's not something u wanna do with iframes [18:41:21] they are as big as they are, or open a fullscreen context, and that's it :) [18:41:50] well you can resize the iframe, but the iframe contents are responsible for fitting to that new size :D [18:42:05] anyway we'd probably want to distinguish between the thumbnail-you-click-on and the live-player still [18:42:07] if you have an audio player, and wanna adds subs to it.. [18:42:29] (or rather, the iframe *parent* has to do the resizing) [18:43:33] thedj: so i think the main question is what to do with thumbs [18:43:50] keep them as some form of 'still image that when activated triggers the real video' [18:44:03] or turn them into 'small video that when activated may change size or trigger a popup' [18:44:12] and 'what is a thumb'. A small playicon for pronunciation audio fragement in wikipedia. What is that... ? [18:45:23] thedj: that reminds me -- might be wise to survey usage of audio links for pronunciation [18:45:39] if they link to the file: page, or directly to the .ogg, or what ... those may need to be made more usable [18:45:54] they link to the .ogg filedownload [18:46:05] [[Media:file.ogv]] [18:46:14] ugh [18:46:24] or rather [[File:image|link=Media:file.ogv]] [18:46:37] more ugh :) [18:46:38] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamil_Nadu <- the one here has a tiny icon that links to the File:*.ogg page, and a big 'Tamil pronunciation' link that goes straight to the .ogg file [18:46:46] which of course doesn't work in safari/ie :D [18:47:45] we could perhaps capture such links in JS and direct them to popup player [18:48:51] u'd have to wrap that in an element + class, for that I think. [18:49:02] or rather, to prevent breaking other things [18:49:55] anyway, ideally, i think that should just be another thumb'ish mode [18:50:06] lemme file a task to 'improve usability and compatibility of audio pronunciation clips' :) [18:50:55] i've always imagined those as: click icon, drop down audio player opens in a sort of 'hover' mode. [18:51:39] there are other players that basically are just the play button, and then when u click play, the play grows and reveals time code and slider. [18:52:18] and you have interesting line-height issues with these things. [18:53:32] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-extensions-TimedMediaHandler: Improve usability and compatibility of audio pronunciation clips - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T116213#1743292 (10brion) 3NEW [18:53:48] thedj: yeah [18:54:12] line-height's always fun when dealing with mobile/touch also; may need bigger icons etc [18:57:05] brion: i wanna sort the TMH tickets into transcode vs player vs rest. [18:57:17] thedj: yassssssss :D [18:57:25] do we need to add more projects, or tags, or something? [18:57:26] doing that on the board first, then maybe later we can mass move into seperate sub projects [18:57:33] ok that's good start [18:57:50] so, sort, then if need be, do mass edit to add new project etc. [18:58:03] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-File-management, 10Parsoid, 7Epic, and 2 others: Use content hash based image / thumb URLs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T66214#1743306 (10GWicke) New thumb paths should ideally follow a very regular structure. Clients might want to rewrite the thumb width, so having the widt... [19:06:27] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-File-management, 10Parsoid, 7Epic, and 2 others: Use content hash based image / thumb URLs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T66214#1743368 (10BGerstle-WMF) @GWicke +1, having a RESTful interface for requesting thumbnails would be nice. Your suggestion, however, assumes prior kn... [19:06:39] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-File-management, 10Parsoid, 7Epic, and 2 others: Use content hash based image / thumb URLs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T66214#1743371 (10brion) We know we already have parameters for width (base images), page (SVG, PDF, etc), thumbtime (TimedMediaHandler), and language (SVG... [19:08:04] I'm trying to follow the VE API's virtual REST service stuff but now I'm thinking it's too overpowered for our uses - MatmaRex any thoughts? [19:08:56] marktraceur: no idea how that works, sorry [19:09:29] it's probably not something you need to worry about when prototyping? [19:09:43] it's basically some kind of useless proxy between mediawiki and your service, no idea why it exists [19:09:53] Yeah [19:10:04] I mean, I want the prototype to look right...kinda [19:10:10] But yeah I'll just fake it 'til I make it [19:14:57] (03PS11) 10Paladox: Add php code sniffer [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/247294 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T38654) [19:30:54] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-File-management, 10Parsoid, 7Epic, and 2 others: Use content hash based image / thumb URLs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T66214#1743500 (10GWicke) @brion, that is indeed a long list of optional parameters, and will require some thinking to accommodate in a clean and cacheable... [19:34:10] ah, i hate it that they still didn't fix drag and drop in long agile board in phab. [19:39:30] 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 6Editing-Department, 10UploadWizard, 5Patch-For-Review: Stop running the UploadWizard API smoke tests in production - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115465#1743515 (10hashar) 5Open>3Resolved The job is gone now. Thank you @Jdforrester-WMF for the clarification. I will decl... [19:40:22] 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10Continuous-Integration-Config, 10UploadWizard: Adjust UploadWizard API test suite to match commons.wikimedia.org policy for bots - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115469#1743528 (10hashar) 5Open>3declined a:3hashar The job has been deleted following discussion T115465. In... [19:40:26] 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 6Editing-Department, 10UploadWizard, 5Patch-For-Review: Stop running the UploadWizard API smoke tests in production - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115465#1724975 (10hashar) [20:16:47] (03PS1) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: Prevent category selector tipsies from hanging around forever [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/247915 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115636) [20:18:39] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Prevent category selector tipsies from hanging around forever [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/247915 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115636) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [20:29:41] 6Multimedia, 10Wikimedia-Developer-Summit-2016, 10Wikimedia-Video: WikiDev16: Next generation video for Wikipedia and friends - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112695#1743765 (10brion) Note that @TheDJ is currently doing some cleanup on the backlog board for the TMH extension project; discussion so far ha... [20:29:43] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-extensions-TimedMediaHandler: TimedMediaHandler unit tests are failing with current mediawiki/core - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T63875#1743770 (10Paladox) [20:30:34] (03CR) 10Paladox: "recheck" [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/115303 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61877) (owner: 10Hashar) [20:32:42] (03CR) 10Paladox: "recheck" [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/115273 (owner: 10Hashar) [20:35:09] (03PS1) 10Paladox: Test: DO NOT MERGE [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/247917 [20:35:17] (03PS2) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: Prevent category selector tipsies from hanging around forever [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/247915 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115636) [20:36:59] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-extensions-TimedMediaHandler: TimedMediaHandler unit tests are failing with current mediawiki/core - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T63875#1743799 (10Paladox) [20:37:07] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Test: DO NOT MERGE [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/247917 (owner: 10Paladox) [20:48:52] hmm, time for bed [21:00:59] (03PS2) 10Brian Wolff: Test: DO NOT MERGE [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/247917 (owner: 10Paladox) [21:03:35] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Test: DO NOT MERGE [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/247917 (owner: 10Paladox) [21:17:15] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-File-management, 10Parsoid, 7Epic, and 2 others: Use content hash based image / thumb URLs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T66214#1743938 (10brion) It probably makes sense to conceptually separate the params into author-supplied and client-selectable portions: Author-supplied:... [21:24:52] I should really stop wrestling with MediaWiki and try to finish moving into my apartment [21:29:29] Oh dear. [21:29:47] marktraceur: We probably shouldn't show the "Upload" tab to anons… [21:30:25] there's a task for that [21:30:27] well, kind of [21:38:27] T12345: Auto-convert anonymous image uploads to ASCII art [21:39:19] brion: … [21:39:42] brion: I want a WebM -> animated ASCII art mode. [21:39:51] don't tempt me, bro [21:39:56] * James_F grins. [21:40:12] brion: BTW, is there anything you need help/support on? [21:40:52] James_F: so far so good; i seem able to acquire ops time as necessary for things like package updates :) [21:41:03] Nice [21:41:08] thedj & i are making more plans for reworking the video/audio frontend [21:41:26] and there'll be some overlap with the parsoid folks on making a cleaner base HTML snippet [21:41:46] so i'll try to work that out with folks [21:42:24] James_F: i'll be in SF much of next week, if you need to grab me to check in we can schedule some time. otherwise i've got plenty to occupy me :D [21:42:47] also talking to archive.org folks about infrastructure for bulk importing and if they can do on-demand transcoding for us [21:43:09] and... somewhere in all this i'm trying to comment on plans for dev summit [21:43:10] WHEE [21:43:13] brion: Ha. Sadly I'll be in Berlin. [21:43:21] yay! always a nice town [21:43:39] brion: But +1 for cleaner audio/video stuff. [21:43:53] yeah [21:44:04] step 1: make it work. step 2: make it work well. step 3: non-profit! [21:44:19] * James_F grins. [21:44:36] In particular, defaulting to native support where available might be nice. [21:46:25] that's also part of where the overlap with parsoid will have to come in :) [21:48:37] :-) [22:01:45] ps, animated ascii art is just a renderer. u could toss libcaca in between ogv.js and webgl and done :) [22:02:39] * bawolff likes that idea [22:02:57] thedj: As a default display style for low-bandwidth users? :-) [22:03:39] hehe [22:08:12] 6Multimedia, 10Wikimedia-Developer-Summit-2016, 10Wikimedia-Video: WikiDev16: Next generation video for Wikipedia and friends - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112695#1744043 (10brion) Big related/subissues to discuss: * T64270 - Clean base HTML for video/audio content that can be Parsoid-friendly: * (w... [22:12:11] these days i think we don't need to worry about the idea of browsers not supporting