[00:04:07] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 031] Check for global blocks in addition to regular ones before showing the wizard [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/235517 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T111174) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [00:05:31] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 031] Fail gracefully when UploadWizard is disabled [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/231888 (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [00:10:15] James_F: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T106968 is a feal braker BTW [00:10:19] *deal [00:11:01] happens to me on a daily basis and my reaction is grrr!!&^^%R$$%$%$!! [00:14:05] matanya: hmm, that looks like another duplicate of something i'm going to look into [00:14:12] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-extensions-UploadWizard: UploadWizard form gets to deadlock when the file title is not accepted - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T106968#1615214 (10matmarex) a:3matmarex [00:14:13] yes [00:14:17] doing that [00:14:30] meging [00:14:50] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-extensions-UploadWizard: When image uploads fail, the entire process shouldn't have to be started anew, just fixed - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T105545#1615219 (10Matanya) [00:14:52] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-extensions-UploadWizard: UploadWizard form gets to deadlock when the file title is not accepted - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T106968#1615220 (10Matanya) [00:15:23] should be the other way around actully, but meh [00:16:30] matanya: Meh, ick. [00:16:39] that too [00:17:44] heh, now i found i was first to report this [00:17:47] merging more [00:18:52] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-extensions-UploadWizard: UW doesn't allow to fix a name clashing issue - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T100975#1615223 (10Matanya) [00:18:54] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-extensions-UploadWizard: UploadWizard form gets to deadlock when the file title is not accepted - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T106968#1615224 (10Matanya) [00:19:27] James_F: if you don't mind, i'd raise prio - per all those dups [00:19:36] Kk. [00:19:53] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-extensions-UploadWizard: UploadWizard form gets to deadlock when the file title is not accepted - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T106968#1615225 (10Matanya) p:5Normal>3High [00:20:01] 6Multimedia, 6Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Echo, 10MediaWiki-extensions-UploadWizard: Notification: Your file was used - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77154#1615227 (10Quiddity) Adding @wittylama per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Notifications/Archive_6#Requesting_.22File_has_been_used... [00:31:24] James_F: is it actully https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T48741 [00:31:34] so i'll merge all to that one [00:31:55] matanya: Plausibly? [00:32:37] so we have 4 tickets dated from 2013 for an error that i would tag UBN [00:33:12] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-File-management, 6Performance-Team: Optimize thumbs right after creation - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T111633#1615280 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3Normal [00:34:05] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-extensions-UploadWizard: UploadWizard form gets to deadlock when the file title is not accepted - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T106968#1615281 (10Matanya) [00:34:07] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-extensions-UploadWizard, 5Patch-For-Review: UploadWizard unable to recover from warnings - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T48741#1615282 (10Matanya) [00:38:43] 6Multimedia, 6Community-Tech, 10MediaWiki-Categories, 10MediaWiki-Uploading: HotCat: Invisible autocomplete drop-down list of category field - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T111614#1615289 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3Low [00:40:32] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-extensions-UploadWizard: Upload wizard on Commons cannot replace existing or deleted files - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T42893#1615293 (10Matanya) [00:40:58] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-extensions-UploadWizard: UW: re-upload of deleted file impossible (duplicate-archive case); should have override - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T42921#1615295 (10Matanya) [00:41:00] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-extensions-UploadWizard: Upload wizard on Commons cannot replace existing or deleted files - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T42893#471209 (10Matanya) [00:46:59] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-extensions-UploadWizard: After uploading files, cannot go back or cancel uploads - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T34247#1615299 (10Matanya) [00:47:02] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-extensions-UploadWizard: Upload wizard: Add bail options - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T26762#1615300 (10Matanya) [00:48:28] James_F: from this work^ i see two repeating requests: 1) allow people to go back, 2) be helpful about isses, and don't leave people in dead end [00:48:49] can you please priortize those ? [00:52:32] 3 > 1 > 2. [00:52:46] and 3 is ? [00:53:12] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-extensions-EducationProgram, 10MediaWiki-extensions-SiteMatrix, 10MediaWiki-extensions-UniversalLanguageSelector, and 2 others: LanguageNames not falling back properly - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T111643#1615314 (10Jdforrester-WMF) a:3Krenair [00:53:18] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-extensions-EducationProgram, 10MediaWiki-extensions-SiteMatrix, 10MediaWiki-extensions-UniversalLanguageSelector, and 2 others: LanguageNames not falling back properly - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T111643#1612596 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3Normal [00:54:16] "don't leave people in dead end". [00:55:28] that is part of two, but yeah, we should fix it first :) [00:55:39] thanks for your help, much appreciated [04:39:14] (03CR) 10Gergő Tisza: [C: 04-1] "A B/C friendly version of this is in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/231505/" [extensions/CommonsMetadata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/107368 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/57189) (owner: 10Amruthasangeeth) [05:31:56] 6Multimedia, 6Performance-Team, 10Wikimedia-Apache-configuration, 10Wikimedia-Video: Files served from /static directory for text domains are not gzipped - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109040#1615502 (10Krinkle) [05:32:13] 6Multimedia, 6Performance-Team, 10Wikimedia-Apache-configuration, 10Wikimedia-Video, 7Regression: Files served from /static directory for text domains are not gzipped - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109040#1538566 (10Krinkle) [05:32:40] 6Multimedia, 6Performance-Team, 10Wikimedia-Apache-configuration, 10Wikimedia-Video, 7Regression: Files served from /static directory for text domains are not gzipped - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109040#1538566 (10Krinkle) This also applies to e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/static/images/project-l... [08:23:40] marktraceur: I have added placeholder text for the legal copy we need to put in the dialog. Let me know once you find out what we really have to put there [10:30:05] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-extensions-UploadWizard, 5Patch-For-Review: UploadWizard unable to recover from warnings - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T48741#1616056 (10matmarex) a:5MarkTraceur>3matmarex [10:31:02] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-extensions-UploadWizard, 5Patch-For-Review: UploadWizard unable to recover from warnings - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T48741#515832 (10matmarex) I'm going to try untangling these issues this week. [13:14:55] prtksxna: I'll email slaporte right now. [13:15:52] prtksxna: Part of me wants to say "future dates? that's silly" but part of me wants to say "but what if we invent time travel?" [13:16:09] I'd say we can take out the verification step in that case. [13:16:14] Let's just nix future dates. [13:22:40] prtksxna: About how far away are we from needing to nerd-snipe edsanders into integrating this into VE? [13:34:12] James_F|Away: I see three tasks in "Doing" that aren't assigned, this makes me think maybe nobody is actually doing them [14:22:12] marktraceur: I guess once the dialog is done, but James_F|Away and MatmaRex would know more about VE integration [14:29:35] prtksxna: I mean, how close are we to having the dialog "done"? [14:29:45] We need the license disclaimer text, and... [14:29:59] Probably a Commons redirect for the appropriate cases [14:55:17] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-extensions-UploadWizard: Move UI creation into JavaScript - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96918#1616484 (10Jdforrester-WMF) a:3matmarex [14:55:33] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-extensions-UploadWizard, 5Patch-For-Review: Special:UploadWizard needs to notify globally blocked users at the beginning of the process, and provide a standard block message - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T111174#1616488 (10Jdforrester-WMF) a:3matmarex [14:55:41] 6Multimedia, 7Epic: Be able to embed an upload dialog so that other extensions (e.g. WikiEditor, VisualEditor) can provide it to users - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91717#1616489 (10Jdforrester-WMF) a:3Prtksxna [14:55:45] marktraceur, prtksxna: Fixed. [14:55:55] Thanks :) [14:56:08] Wanted to confirm there wasn't some weird thing we were trying to track or whatever. [14:56:16] I should probably make my tickets for metrics-y things. [14:56:33] And probably for CategorySelector and ForeignStructuredUploadDialog [14:57:34] Yes. :-P [15:00:16] I guess FSUD is kinda the big task [15:00:52] Argh, what's the project for mediawiki frontend stuff [15:01:31] 6Multimedia: Create mw.widgets.CategorySelector - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T111791#1616516 (10MarkTraceur) 3NEW a:3Prtksxna [15:08:53] 6Multimedia: Implement some basic metrics for the Multimedia team - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T111793#1616558 (10MarkTraceur) 3NEW a:3MarkTraceur [15:10:14] marktraceur: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/view/24/ [15:10:34] 6Multimedia, 6Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Echo, 10MediaWiki-extensions-UploadWizard: Notification: Your file was used - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77154#1616584 (10Wittylama) Thank you @quiddity for adding me here! Since my suggestion on the wiki was auto-archived after several weeks with no resp... [15:12:02] prtksxna: That seems hardly intuitive [15:12:14] 6Multimedia, 10UI-Standardization: Create mw.widgets.CategorySelector - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T111791#1616590 (10MarkTraceur) [15:12:22] There's not even "mediawiki-" in it [15:18:56] marktraceur: I think the dialog is pretty much done. Apart from what you mentioned, the date validation is left. [15:23:37] Ah, right. Date validation. [15:23:55] And probably some error recovery stuff, too? [15:26:01] 6Multimedia, 10UI-Standardization, 5Patch-For-Review: Create mw.widgets.CategorySelector - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T111791#1616653 (10Prtksxna) [15:26:03] 6Multimedia, 7Epic, 5Patch-For-Review: Be able to embed an upload dialog so that other extensions (e.g. WikiEditor, VisualEditor) can provide it to users - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91717#1616652 (10Prtksxna) [15:28:25] marktraceur: Should https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T105071 be closed? [15:30:38] 6Multimedia, 10CommonsMetadata, 5MW-1.26-release, 5Patch-For-Review, 5WMF-deploy-2015-09-01_(1.26wmf21): Create frontend API based on mw.Upload for Commons uploads - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T105071#1616669 (10Prtksxna) 5Open>3Resolved [15:30:40] 6Multimedia, 7Epic, 5Patch-For-Review: Be able to embed an upload dialog so that other extensions (e.g. WikiEditor, VisualEditor) can provide it to users - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91717#1616670 (10Prtksxna) [15:32:41] 6Multimedia, 10UI-Standardization, 5Patch-For-Review: Create mw.widgets.CategorySelector - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T111791#1616692 (10MarkTraceur) p:5Triage>3Normal [15:37:04] James_F: marktraceur https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/235431/11/languages/i18n/en.json,cm :D [15:37:09] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-extensions-EducationProgram, 10MediaWiki-extensions-SiteMatrix, 10MediaWiki-extensions-UniversalLanguageSelector, and 3 others: LanguageNames not falling back properly - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T111643#1616721 (10Jdforrester-WMF) Fixed? [15:42:32] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-extensions-TimedMediaHandler, 7Easy: extensions/TimedMediaHandler - file permissions trigger debian lintian warnings - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T111745#1616735 (10Southparkfan) @Krenair fixed this in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/221388/, but this was (accidentally) rev... [15:44:32] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-extensions-TimedMediaHandler, 7Easy: extensions/TimedMediaHandler - file permissions trigger debian lintian warnings - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T111745#1616751 (10Krenair) >>! In T111745#1616735, @Southparkfan wrote: > You can't see that in Gerrit (fail) Yeah, it's quite an... [15:46:11] (03PS1) 10Southparkfan: chmod 644 WebVideoTranscodeJob.php [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/236809 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T111745) [15:48:24] (03CR) 10Alex Monk: [C: 032] chmod 644 WebVideoTranscodeJob.php [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/236809 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T111745) (owner: 10Southparkfan) [15:51:35] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: chmod 644 WebVideoTranscodeJob.php [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/236809 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T111745) (owner: 10Southparkfan) [15:51:46] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-extensions-TimedMediaHandler, 7Easy: extensions/TimedMediaHandler - file permissions trigger debian lintian warnings - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T111745#1616852 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open>3Resolved a:5brion>3Southparkfan [16:06:53] 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10Wikimedia-SVG-rendering: SVG file is generating 429-error - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T111815#1616960 (10Josve05a) 3NEW [16:08:34] 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10Wikimedia-SVG-rendering: SVG file is generating 429 and 500 errors - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T111815#1616981 (10Josve05a) [16:12:13] 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10MediaWiki-Uploading: Commons private-to-public setting - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T111792#1617008 (10Aklapper) This seems not to be Commons specific but instead something to implement in MediaWiki's Uploading code. Hence adding that code project. [16:30:03] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-extensions-EducationProgram, 10MediaWiki-extensions-SiteMatrix, 10MediaWiki-extensions-UniversalLanguageSelector, and 3 others: LanguageNames not falling back properly - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T111643#1617109 (10Krenair) Only for SiteMatrix. Haven't looked into the code... [16:49:05] 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10MediaWiki-Uploading: Commons private-to-public setting - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T111792#1617195 (10Revi) Even this is done technically, Commons community should gain consensus to do this. [16:50:18] 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10MediaWiki-Uploading: Commons private-to-public setting - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T111792#1617198 (10Krenair) Yeah, ability to do so should definitely be restricted by a config setting so wikis can choose to turn it on. [17:09:14] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-extensions-UploadWizard: Issues with Upload Wizard - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T100935#1617278 (10Aklapper) 5Open>3declined a:3Aklapper Hmm, thanks for updating this. Closing for the time being, please reopen when this happens again. Thanks! [17:19:11] 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10MediaWiki-Uploading, 7Community-consensus-needed: Commons private-to-public setting - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T111792#1617339 (10Steinsplitter) [17:20:28] 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10MediaWiki-Uploading: Commons private-to-public setting - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T111792#1617353 (10Krenair) [17:35:52] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-extensions-TimedMediaHandler, 7Easy, 5WMF-deploy-2015-09-08_(1.26wmf22): extensions/TimedMediaHandler - file permissions trigger debian lintian warnings - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T111745#1617431 (10wpmirrordev) I confirm that the above mentioned debian lintian warning is... [17:47:37] Just looked at InitialiseSettings to figure out which wikis allow uploads [17:47:43] I just...ugh [17:49:27] I'll start with Commons. [17:54:16] marktraceur: :-) [17:54:34] marktraceur: If you feel like cleaning it up into a dblist Krenair would love you forever. ;-) [17:55:34] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-extensions-EducationProgram, 10MediaWiki-extensions-SiteMatrix, 10MediaWiki-extensions-UniversalLanguageSelector, and 3 others: LanguageNames not falling back properly - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T111643#1617480 (10Krenair) >extensions/EducationProgram/includes/Utils.php:... [17:57:55] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-extensions-EducationProgram, 10MediaWiki-extensions-SiteMatrix, 10MediaWiki-extensions-UniversalLanguageSelector, and 2 others: LanguageNames not falling back properly - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T111643#1617489 (10Krenair) [17:59:19] James_F, I also don't think https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108359 is Done [17:59:31] Krenair: Because it [18:00:06] Krenair: …'s had no response from brion since I asked him, I moved it there so it's out of the way. [18:00:21] heh, okay [18:00:27] Krenair: "Done" means "James's problem to make sure it's actually done, then mark as Resolved". [18:00:39] aha [18:05:49] brion: ping [18:05:54] yo yo [18:05:59] http://demuxed.com [18:06:11] 1st of october in SF [18:06:32] apparently with brightcove/videojs folks [18:06:59] excellent [18:07:14] thedj: oh good that's the same thing mdale gave me a ping about i think, and not a conflicting conference :D [18:07:20] i'll schedule me a flight down :D [18:09:27] i'd go myself. if it wasn't half way around the world.... [18:10:36] divide & conquer :D [18:16:35] brion: I was meant to ask you, do you want to join us in team meetings at all or should we continue to operate kind of weirdly separate [18:16:53] We have 08:30 daily meetings your timezone now, but we could maybe negotiate [18:17:07] marktraceur: i probably should join in some of your reindeer games :D [18:17:12] Yeah [18:17:28] i'm actually usually up at 8:30 so can check in, either daily or once or twice a week [18:17:33] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-File-management, 10MediaWiki-Tarball-Backports: Uppercase picture extensions like .PNG are not allowed - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T68667#1617540 (10Tgr) Uhh, sorry for taking forever in this. I'll get it done this week, I am backporting stuff to 1.23 anyway. [18:17:37] OK. [18:17:45] mostly i'm working on separate stuff but it's good to coordinate plans! [18:18:15] especially once we get to stuff like doing audio/video in mmv [18:18:38] brion: btw. subtitle conversion is now working in the api patch [18:18:47] sweet! [18:18:54] thedj: is that using an external binary or a php lib? [18:19:06] composer lib. captioning/captioning [18:19:12] nice [18:19:17] installable libraries for the win [18:20:25] brion: Well, we "don't" maintain MMV [18:20:29] although it seems we have quite some uncommon srt files, so conversion fails quite often. I already reported some upstream requests. [18:20:45] Which seems to basically mean that matmarex maintains MMV when he feels it's important enough [18:21:08] prtksxna: slaporte asked me some questions and mentioned that we should include TOU agreement in the language for licencing [18:21:41] heh [18:25:03] technically MMV is maintained by reading web; in practice I've fixed most new bugs and occasionally even do code review for it but marrying it to TMH is way way beyond any commitment anybody has got [18:25:36] True. [18:25:40] eh, let's fix tmh first... [18:25:42] :) [18:25:46] that would be a quarterly goal level thing, I think [18:26:04] The wonderful team of brion and thedj's quarterly goal [18:26:04] hi all [18:26:08] Ohai MatmaRex. [18:26:16] You missed our first standup thinger [18:26:22] marktraceur: did i miss anything important? :( [18:26:24] But it's okay, we assigned you all the tasks [18:26:32] yes, i noticed [18:26:46] MatmaRex: I'm working on some metrics stuff today, prtksxna is nearly done with our dialog business [18:26:55] i'll work hard to make up for the absence :P [18:26:55] speaking of, the RL cleanup work patch for TMH could use some review/test/merge again [18:26:57] Legal is going to chime in about disclaimers, TOUs, etc. [18:27:13] MatmaRex: I don't know what you need from us, but if you need anything or want anything to do, let us know [18:27:19] thedj: i'll give it another test tomorrow, lemme put it on my calendar to remind me :D [18:33:03] brion: thx [18:33:30] before someone changes RL again to break the patch.... [18:34:50] heh [18:36:54] brion: Ping re. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108359 BTW – done, do you think? [18:38:19] oh, that's still broken ? [18:39:03] Well, that's the question. :-) [18:39:12] it is, try: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File%3ACuriosity%27s_Seven_Minutes_of_Terror.ogv?embedplayer=yes [18:39:21] i still get the mergeConfig error [18:39:22] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-extensions-TimedMediaHandler, 10Wikimedia-Video, 5Patch-For-Review: Embedded video player broken - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108359#1617681 (10brion) Definitely still broken: ``` Exception in module-execute in module mw.MediaSource: load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=jq... [18:42:26] brion: ehm.. i see two implementations of mw.mergeConfig.... [18:42:48] it seems to work fine on my local install [18:43:04] * thedj checks on en.wp [18:43:21] prtksxna: OK, slaporte says he'll reach out to you so he can see what you've got, then make some suggestions [18:43:27] same problem [18:46:45] prtksxna: OK, anomie says "go", I tested it and it looks fine, are we blocked on anything else for CatSel? [18:47:14] (running sql queries on commonswiki.image means I have some serious downtime for code review) [18:49:46] (03PS1) 10Alex Monk: Get language names via core functions [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/236854 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T111643) [18:51:22] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 031] Get language names via core functions [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/236854 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T111643) (owner: 10Alex Monk) [18:52:31] maybe it's a module ordering thing.... looking [18:54:48] ["embedPlayerIframeStyle","mw.EmbedPlayer","mw.MwEmbedSupport"] [18:55:00] ahh [18:55:15] so the iframe thingy does those from addModules: $wgOut->addModules( array( 'embedPlayerIframeStyle', 'mw.EmbedPlayer', 'mw.MwEmbedSupport' ) ); [18:55:31] since the top queue stuff is dead (?) i guess those no longer load in order consistently [18:56:22] yup. that' probably the problem. still dependencies should get enforced.... right ? [18:56:38] * brion hrms [18:58:12] eh wait a minute.. [18:58:24] where is the block with the RL dependency structure ? [18:59:13] so there's like 3 different places :P [18:59:36] mw.EmbedPlayer is defined in TimedMediaHandler/MwEmbedModules/EmbedPlayer/EmbedPlayer.hp [18:59:39] loader is not properly in the page... probably because stuff used to be block injected by force, but now no more.. [19:00:01] and has no *direct* dep on mw.MwEmbedSupport [19:02:45] (03PS1) 10Brion VIBBER: Another hack at fixing embed player [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/236858 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108359) [19:02:55] thedj: that.... might do it [19:05:34] lemme double check [19:09:31] brion: hmm, the problem is that the loader scripts are not in the page [19:10:35] or if they are, because the dependencies are not explicit... [19:12:14] ah yes that's it. so the loader script make an implicit dependency between MwEmbedSupport, Embedplayer.loader and Embedplayer [19:12:42] but with the new loader that now causes a race condition [19:13:25] we can likely find non-loading videos on some production pages as well I suspect. Just more rare. [19:14:20] yeah, more stuff to delay the loading and make the problem not appear on a large page perhaps [19:15:21] yeah, so in debug mode and in production, the loader script is a lot more likely to accidently fill the gap. [19:15:43] but on iframe page, it becomes clear that the loading scripts are basically broken [19:16:04] thedj: i'm gonna be so happy when we delete all that stuff :D [19:19:29] (03CR) 10TheDJ: [C: 032] Another hack at fixing embed player [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/236858 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108359) (owner: 10Brion VIBBER) [19:19:42] woo [19:20:01] i hate timing bugs that are hard to reproduce [19:21:55] i probably need to merge that into my patch as well... [19:22:51] * brion wanders off to lunch [19:23:11] hopefully this one fixes it until we can drive a stake into its heart :D [19:24:23] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Another hack at fixing embed player [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/236858 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108359) (owner: 10Brion VIBBER) [19:25:11] (03CR) 10Anomie: [WIP] First go at a subtitle serving api (033 comments) [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/232214 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T111552) (owner: 10TheDJ) [19:42:25] (03PS31) 10TheDJ: Improve live loading and ResourceLoader behavior [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/172421 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T74675) [19:42:30] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Improve live loading and ResourceLoader behavior [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/172421 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T74675) (owner: 10TheDJ) [19:43:41] (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: [C: 032] Get language names via core functions [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/236854 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T111643) (owner: 10Alex Monk) [19:45:00] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Get language names via core functions [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/236854 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T111643) (owner: 10Alex Monk) [19:51:36] grr, now my subtitles seem to be broken of course... [20:08:14] OK, I have the first round of three metrics for three wikis running on stat1003 [20:08:42] Total uploads, total unique uploaders, and first-time uploaders - per month, by wiki [20:08:56] Haven't started down the path of grouping them by media type... [20:09:25] Oh, media type is right there in the database. Thanks, mediawiki. [20:25:03] marktraceur: Anything interesting in the data yet? [20:27:31] (03PS32) 10TheDJ: Improve live loading and ResourceLoader behavior [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/172421 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T74675) [20:28:21] 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10MediaWiki-Uploading: Commons private-to-public setting - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T111792#1618169 (10Tgr) I made a related proposal in T88620. (Which I intend to work on, uh, eventually.) [20:31:16] (03PS33) 10TheDJ: Improve live loading and ResourceLoader behavior [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/172421 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T74675) [20:42:24] James_F: Well, let's see [20:42:39] marktraceur: Charts or it didn't happen. Or something. [20:43:24] * marktraceur forgot how to do limn [20:43:31] I'm workin' on it [20:44:04] marktraceur: Don't use limn. [20:44:08] marktraceur: It's 'orrible. [20:44:13] marktraceur: Use dashiki. [20:45:07] Fair enough. [20:45:28] I've got http://datasets.wikimedia.org/public-datasets/all/multimedia/ with the first-time-uploaders TSVs and the uploaders/uploads TSVs down near the bottom [20:45:45] I'm starting to doubt some of those numbers [20:46:29] James_F: Where can I get access to Dashiki? [20:47:48] Circular soft redirect from https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Analytics/Dashiki :) [20:51:27] marktraceur: https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Analytics/Dashiki&diff=1876810&oldid=1799200 :-) [20:52:04] Needs more karaoke [20:52:27] Karaoke Performance Indicators [20:52:49] Karaoke Performances, Imbibulousful. [20:54:12] James_F: But yeah, what is the magic word for configuring Dashiki to point at my TSVs? [20:54:43] marktraceur: "Dear milimetric, help". [20:54:55] (03CR) 10Paladox: [WIP] First go at a subtitle serving api (031 comment) [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/232214 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T111552) (owner: 10TheDJ) [20:57:04] OK, well, fired away, but alas [20:57:07] * marktraceur will wait. [20:57:24] marktraceur: -analytics is a good place to ask. [20:57:30] Just did. [20:57:45] marktraceur: Oh, ha, yeah. [22:02:21] 6Multimedia, 6Commons: Some files had disappeared from Commons after renaming - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T111838#1618428 (10Josve05a) [22:09:20] 6Multimedia, 6Commons: Some files had disappeared from Commons after renaming - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T111838#1618442 (10Josve05a) p:5Triage>3Unbreak! Triaging to Unbreak Now! since this is causing a lot of problems. Question: Is it happening to all file-moves or just some? Something changed r... [22:10:39] James_F: Seeing some serious weird on the cluster re: thumbnails and file moves [22:10:49] Maybe related to the PDF bug we have on the board somehow, not sure [22:10:58] Interesting. [22:12:20] I don't see anything particularly exciting in core that might have changed things [22:12:53] There's I8af527661a041964690faae7566fb97e305e2b0f Return HTTP 429 when thumbnailing is throttled due to too many errors [22:13:05] So that might be masking the real error or freaking out over nothing [22:13:15] tgr: Any chance thumbnail throttling is misbehaving? [23:05:49] marktraceur: misbehaving in what way? [23:06:50] I8af52766 changed response statuses so that when 1000 readers try to view a thousand megapixel file which MediaWiki cannot thumbnail, instead of 1000x HTTP 500 [23:07:05] we get 5x HTTP 500 + 995x HTTP 429 [23:07:54] it did not change when throttling happens [23:13:32] 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10Wikimedia-SVG-rendering: SVG file is generating 429 and 500 errors - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T111815#1618658 (10Tgr) ```Error creating thumbnail: Error reading SVG:Error domain 1 code 1 on line 3409 column 7 of file:///tmp/svg_09ebfac0817ad425c214af8a/localcopy_4c26893f84e0... [23:17:48] 6Multimedia, 6Commons: Some files had disappeared from Commons after renaming - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T111838#1618666 (10Tgr) Probably some kind of Swift error, and the files need to be renamed manually. See T71311. [23:45:42] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-extensions-MultimediaViewer, 10MobileFrontend, 3Reading-Web: Mediaviewer failing in mobile when file names include special characters - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T111609#1618770 (10Jdlrobson)