[01:03:21] (03PS2) 10Jforrester: build: Add csslint to npm testing [extensions/PronunciationRecording] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/233183 [07:04:14] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-File-management, 6Performance-Team: Add support for using graphicsmagick instead of imagemagick for thumbnailing - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T21073#1574446 (10Gilles) I'd argue that the messy way the code is organized is actually an argument for cleaning things up regardless... [07:12:47] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-File-management, 6Performance-Team: Investigate graphicsmagick performance - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107885#1574457 (10Bawolff) There's a lot of criteria to judge an image renderer on. We should be careful that the faster speed doesn't result in reduced quality, significan... [07:14:31] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-File-management, 6Performance-Team: Add support for using graphicsmagick instead of imagemagick for thumbnailing - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T21073#1574459 (10Bawolff) >Most of the work required here is code cleanup and reorganization. If our code was better organized, testin... [07:50:41] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-File-management, 6Performance-Team: Investigate graphicsmagick performance - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107885#1574495 (10Gilles) I've been comparing speed at equal size and quality. Quality was verified with DSSIM. And so far for all alternatives I've investigated, the size... [07:53:21] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-File-management, 6Performance-Team: Add support for using graphicsmagick instead of imagemagick for thumbnailing - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T21073#1574496 (10Gilles) >>! In T21073#1574459, @Bawolff wrote: >>Most of the work required here is code cleanup and reorganization. I... [07:54:18] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-File-management, 6Performance-Team: Add support for using graphicsmagick instead of imagemagick for thumbnailing - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T21073#1574497 (10Bawolff) Oh I got you. I was thinking as a drop in replacement for im over everything. [07:57:22] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-File-management, 6Performance-Team: Add support for using graphicsmagick instead of imagemagick for thumbnailing - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T21073#1574498 (10Gilles) We could do that as a temporary test, like running GM on Commons for a day. It would confirm on a large scale... [07:59:39] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-File-management, 6Performance-Team: Add support for using graphicsmagick instead of imagemagick for thumbnailing - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T21073#1574500 (10Bawolff) Well there is a hook one could use to handle it all as an extension... but it would be nice to eventually re... [08:10:59] i haven't been able to upload files today :/ an by upload i mean 'Upload over' [08:11:21] marktraceur , something got changed? [08:12:28] Are you getting errors? [08:13:03] If uploads are broke for everyone, normally I'd expect a riot from commons [08:13:04] infinite loop [08:13:45] i left my pitchfork at home :( [08:14:11] Don't worry, I'm sure we can find something to rile everyone up tomorrow :P [08:14:34] WaRpAtH: When you say infinite loop, do you mean their is a little spinny thing over the image preview on Special:Upload ? [08:14:40] *there [08:14:48] that too [08:15:09] The spiny thing never going away is just cosmetic, and can be ignored [08:15:12] and then 20 od secodns laters of the page trying to "send request" ..its stops uplaoding .. [08:15:33] Are the files you're uploading normal sized (e.g. Not a 100 mb movie) [08:15:50] yeah but that spinny thing isn't the problem..i have tried uploading a 4mb image 12 times alreayd in 2 PC'S SAME OUTCOME [08:16:00] nah just 4mb and a 375kb file [08:16:32] ok, so you definitely shouldn't be experiancing some sort of timeout [08:21:35] i figured the uplaod servers must be overloaded since fae seems to be uploading 4 or 5 image every minute..is that possible? [08:23:19] WaRpAtH: probably not, the servers are monitored, and alarm bells should ring if things go screwy [08:23:24] in theory anyway [08:24:04] i tried doing a smaller image upload thinking it might be my net speed but its also didn't work :/ [08:24:27] how do i search for errors? [08:31:51] Swift is the servers that would most likely get overloaded by too many uploads I think. The graphs for them look normal without any big spikes ( http://ganglia.wikimedia.org/latest/?r=week&cs=&ce=&c=Swift+eqiad&h=&tab=m&vn=&hide-hf=false&m=cpu_report&sh=1&z=small&hc=4&host_regex=&max_graphs=0&s=by+name ), but the ops stuff is a little out of my area [08:34:54] then i shall blame Keegan :P [08:36:14] [[File:Escut_de_Beuda.svg]] [08:36:26] was overwritten recently, so some people are able to at least [08:36:58] (although, if things were truly overloaded, it would make sense some overwrites got though) [08:38:48] WaRpAtH: so basically, I have no idea what's happening for it to not work for you [08:39:31] WaRpAtH: You could try maybe using a different method to upload files, to see if the results are different [08:39:34] e.g. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rillke/bigChunkedUpload.js [08:42:27] probaly jsut me..everythign seesm to be slow on wikmeida wikis now :( [08:43:36] are you using a proxy, or a weird network configuration, or anything like that? [08:44:05] vodafone 4G wi-fi [11:25:15] 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10MediaWiki-extensions-GlobalUsage, 7Easy, 5WMF-deploy-2015-09-01_(1.26wmf21): Add a text message above the form on Special:GlobalUsage - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109882#1574875 (10Glaisher) 5Open>3Resolved [12:29:53] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-General-or-Unknown, 7HTTPS, 5Patch-For-Review: PhpHttpRequest should not check host against CN x509 attribute - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75199#1575065 (10BBlack) Is this ready to merge? into upcoming point releases? we're basically way overdue for giving up on clients th... [12:29:58] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-General-or-Unknown, 7HTTPS, 5Patch-For-Review: PhpHttpRequest requires a certificate repository - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75203#1575067 (10BBlack) Is this ready to merge? into upcoming point releases? we're basically way overdue for giving up on clients that can't do ba... [12:34:02] 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10MediaWiki-File-management, 10MediaWiki-Tarball-Backports, and 7 others: InstantCommons broken by switch to HTTPS - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T102566#1575084 (10BBlack) Pinged both of those tasks. I'm pretty much out of patience with waiting for PHP to suddenly become a les... [13:00:07] WaRpAtH: Any luck since the above? I was sound asleep. [13:02:39] seems to be an issue with my ISP...i think it works now.. [13:06:48] Huzzah [14:13:05] Gosh, every time I go to ask MatmaRex something, he's offline. [14:26:45] 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10MediaWiki-extensions-UploadWizard, 5Patch-For-Review: Commons Special:UploadWizard no longer extracts time from EXIF data - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109953#1575410 (10Pigsonthewing) This seems to have been done without the consensus of the editing (and image uploading) co... [14:52:00] MatmaRex: So I'm going to push my CommonsUpload nonsense into core today [14:52:16] After that, we should be pretty much unblocked on everything, right? [14:52:21] alright! [14:52:30] hmm, yeah, i think so [14:52:35] Like, we can make a dialog pretty easily and put that dialog into VE [14:52:46] OK awesome [14:53:18] MatmaRex: What are you on today? If you have nothing else going on, I might point you at some UploadWizard stuff (or have you pull code out of UploadWizard that's now handled by mw.api.upload) [14:53:41] (or wait until mw.CommonsUpload is useful) [14:56:03] marktraceur: i was going to document ForeignApi with some examples on mw.org, and maybe send an email somewhere that we did this cool thing here. not much apart from that [14:56:24] marktraceur: so yeah, if there are things you want me to do, please point them out [15:04:03] OK. [15:04:39] MatmaRex: I'd like you to be a set of fresh eyes on the UploadWizard order preservation...I changed it to be an array passed between steps and somehow it got messed up [15:04:44] Let me find the bug. [15:05:06] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109589 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92801 [15:05:39] I swear I have no idea how it gets confused, but maybe I missed a refactor step and the uploads are still added to the list asynchronously? [15:07:08] marktraceur: hmm. okay, i'll look into it. [15:14:39] Ta [16:21:12] marktraceur: can you review https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/233748 ? we'll probably want to SWAT it too, eh [16:23:48] Is it that important? [16:31:31] (03CR) 10MarkTraceur: [C: 032] Revert "Never import the time of creation from anywhere, only the date" [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/233748 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109953) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [16:31:35] marktraceur: if you ask me, it's extremely unimportant. but clearly people care for some inexplicable reason, so let's make them happy [16:31:51] I'm going to look at these "people" for a second [16:32:39] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Revert "Never import the time of creation from anywhere, only the date" [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/233748 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109953) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [16:33:47] MatmaRex: Sigh, ^^ [16:36:32] 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10MediaWiki-extensions-UploadWizard, 5Patch-For-Review: Commons Special:UploadWizard no longer extracts time from EXIF data - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109953#1575957 (10MarkTraceur) We are merging the patch to fix this now. It will be on Commons within the next week or so.... [16:37:05] (edited to clarify why I'm not SWATting it. [16:38:56] marktraceur: CI issue, I'll re +2 it shortly [16:39:40] Righto [16:39:49] (03CR) 10Legoktm: [C: 032] "try again" [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/233748 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109953) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [16:40:40] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Revert "Never import the time of creation from anywhere, only the date" [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/233748 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109953) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [16:56:55] (03CR) 10Legoktm: "check zend" [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/233748 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109953) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [16:57:02] (03CR) 10Legoktm: "recheck" [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/233748 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109953) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [16:57:40] wtf. [16:57:49] (03CR) 10Legoktm: [C: 032] Revert "Never import the time of creation from anywhere, only the date" [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/233748 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109953) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [16:58:06] This is hilarious [16:59:05] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Revert "Never import the time of creation from anywhere, only the date" [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/233748 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109953) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [16:59:35] there we go [17:08:10] 'bout time [17:25:42] 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10MediaWiki-extensions-UploadWizard, 5Patch-For-Review, 5WMF-deploy-2015-09-01_(1.26wmf21): Commons Special:UploadWizard no longer extracts time from EXIF data - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109953#1576087 (10matmarex) @Steinsplitter, @Pigsonthewing, as you know all the devel... [17:28:04] marktraceur: i need to leave to help my mom with stuff now; i'll be online later today, and i'll look into the UW image order issues [17:28:10] KK [17:38:27] 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10MediaWiki-extensions-UploadWizard, 5Patch-For-Review: Make it clearer that you can use a free-form date in UploadWizard by clicking the button next to the date input - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110026#1576173 (10violetto) @Billinghurst which solution did you mean works for... [19:27:24] 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10MediaWiki-extensions-UploadWizard, 5Patch-For-Review, 5WMF-deploy-2015-09-01_(1.26wmf21): Commons Special:UploadWizard no longer extracts time from EXIF data - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109953#1576646 (10matmarex) 5Open>3Resolved a:3matmarex The fix will be deploye... [19:47:07] MatmaRex: Well...there it is. https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/234086 [19:50:01] marktraceur: neat [19:50:19] Should work pretty well [19:50:37] Next up, porting a dialog of some sort and making sure there's a license stanza in it [19:51:07] prtksxna: Have you touched dialogs since mw.Upload.Dialog went in? Do we have something going forward? [19:55:19] Augh, didn't work. [20:59:18] 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10MediaWiki-extensions-UploadWizard, 5Patch-For-Review: Make it clearer that you can use a free-form date in UploadWizard by clicking the button next to the date input - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110026#1577033 (10Billinghurst) Hi V, Was telling to Matma's contribute via [22:07:32] 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 6Community-Tech: [AOI] Ceate a new DerivativeFX after the Toolserver shutdown - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110409#1577280 (10Josve05a) [22:07:56] 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 6Community-Tech: [AOI] Ceate a new DerivativeFX after the Toolserver shutdown - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110409#1577282 (10Josve05a) [22:08:10] 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 6Community-Tech: [AOI] Ceate a new DerivativeFX after the Toolserver shutdown - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110409#1577252 (10Josve05a) [22:09:48] 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 6Community-Tech: [AOI] Ceate a new DerivativeFX after the Toolserver shutdown - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110409#1577252 (10Josve05a) Real life example for when it is needed: https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons:Village_pump/Copyright&oldid=169744638#Montage... [22:10:41] 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 6Community-Tech: [AOI] Ceate a new DerivativeFX after the Toolserver shutdown - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110409#1577304 (10Josve05a) Also see T69283 [22:22:34] 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 6Community-Tech: [AOI] Ceate a new DerivativeFX after the Toolserver shutdown - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110409#1577358 (10Ricordisamoa) I started a proof of concept some time ago, but dropped it hoping UploadWizard would have been able to handle derivative files. [22:24:56] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-File-management, 6operations, 5MW-1.26-release, and 2 others: Thumbnail render throttling should not result in HTTP 500 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110109#1577364 (10Tgr) 5Open>3Resolved a:3Tgr [22:26:36] 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 6Community-Tech: [AOI] Ceate a new DerivativeFX after the Toolserver shutdown - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110409#1577371 (10Ricordisamoa) https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/?diff=107094909 [22:29:25] 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 6Community-Tech: [AOI] Ceate a new DerivativeFX after the Toolserver shutdown - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110409#1577378 (10Josve05a) (even just a thing you can add different licenses (versions of different licieses also included) in to and run some boolean operators on to see... [22:52:06] 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 6Community-Tech, 10Tool-Labs-tools-Other: [AOI] Ceate a new DerivativeFX after the Toolserver shutdown - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110409#1577472 (10Aklapper) [23:03:30] hi everybody...I have a question about insert from my local directory videos tomy local wiki, this is possible?! [23:04:33] I add extencion Video and add im my LocalSettings.php the input [23:04:45] require_once "$IP/extensions/Video/Video.php"; [23:04:47] but not work [23:07:58] rodrigorootrj: did you "Run the update script which will automatically create the necessary database tables that this extension needs."? [23:09:19] Im not create new database, i unzip pack from Video-RELI in directory /extensions [23:09:36] and add entire in LocalSettings.php [23:09:58] You need to create database tables within your existing database or things will not work. [23:10:17] well... [23:10:38] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Update.php [23:11:48] tks, i learn this article! [23:12:06] I startup in my enviroment test [23:32:05] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 031] "I like." [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/233772 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110026) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński)