[12:21:53] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3UploadWizard: Uploading multiple files doesn't work with Firefogg and settings for multiple concurrent uploads - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/71409 (10Gilles Dubuc) 3NEW p:3Unprio s:3normal a:3None Second-hand report, sent to me by email by Rainer Rillke. The steps to rep... [12:47:47] gi11es: hello, time for a technical question ? [12:47:58] matanya: sure [12:48:05] I have uploaded https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File%3AWheel_bug_assassin_bug_vs._silver-spotted_skipper_caterpillar.webm [12:48:25] which should be 1980x720 [12:48:45] it the page says so, but it seems much lower quality then orig on youtube [12:48:56] why is that? or i am wrong? [12:49:11] *1280 of course [12:50:20] youtube shows 720p as the highest available resolution, so in that sense they are the same resolution [12:50:31] but to be available as webm the video has to be recompressed [12:50:43] means ? [12:50:55] transcoding isn't enough ? [12:51:38] did you do the conversion to webm yoruself? [12:52:15] yes [12:52:21] using ffmpeg [12:52:53] right, and if you play the webm file you've created before uploading it to commons, what's the quality like? [12:52:59] same, better? [12:53:05] same [12:53:19] same as orig i mean [12:53:30] using vlc locally [12:53:58] is the file 2.8mb as well? [12:54:29] yes [12:54:33] the "original" I can download from commons weighs 2.8mb and the quality is the same as on commons [12:54:39] i.e. locks of compression artifcats [12:54:41] lots [12:55:07] could you email me the sharp webm original you have? [12:55:17] yes [12:55:23] somewhat big [12:56:00] ah, but if it's big then it's not the same file. so what happened, did you upload the large one? [12:56:25] I didn't know that our video upload pipeline transcoded again, but that's possible [12:56:53] maybe it's because it treats 720p as a streaming target and thus tried to reduce the file weight to keep the bandwidth requirement low [12:57:00] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3UploadWizard: Uploading multiple files doesn't work with Firefogg and settings for multiple concurrent uploads - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/71409#c1 (10Andre Klapper) ErrorConsole output could be good... Is this the same as bug 69374? Maybe you're more successful in making Mark... [12:57:15] and since you original happens to 720p, there's no way to get to the full quality version that you've uploaded [12:57:25] gi11es: 2.8 is somewhat big [12:57:46] ah! that's fine on my end, are you limited in upload bandwidth? [12:57:52] no [12:57:59] just letting you know [12:58:12] should be fine! gilles@wikimedia.org [12:58:58] hell this is weird [12:59:12] I see the encoding has two versions [12:59:27] one is 2.8 and one is 20m [12:59:32] why is this ??? [13:00:50] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3UploadWizard: Uploading multiple files doesn't work with Firefogg and settings for multiple concurrent uploads - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/71409#c2 (10Gilles Dubuc) I saw a screencap and there was no console error. Just some harmless deprecation warnings. It does look like the... [13:00:58] I don't know, ffmpeg is a complicated beast, it totally depends on what command you ran to do the transcoding [13:01:52] if the 2.8mb looks just as bad as commons, try uploading the 20mb as a replacement on commons [13:02:13] see now: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wheel_bug_assassin_bug_vs._silver-spotted_skipper_caterpillar.webm [13:03:21] is it better now gi11es ? [13:03:27] the server hasn't generated all the versions yet, but it looks promising [13:03:59] clicking on "original file" definitely gives something as sharp as youtube [13:04:01] you can see the orig [13:04:05] right [13:04:18] can't get it [13:04:27] refresh the page [13:04:31] looks like something broken in my config of ffmepeg [13:04:40] ah, I see [13:04:53] well yeah, as far as I can tell, commons served what you had uploade [13:04:55] it = wrong config :) [13:04:57] uploaded [13:05:03] ok, thanks [13:05:16] it seems i need to redo some uploads [13:05:45] it's easy to tell with the bitrate displayed for the original [13:05:49] 1,280 × 720 pixels, 2.41 Mbps overall) [13:05:55] 2+Mbps is definitely HD [13:06:06] the 2.8 upload had 384Kbps [13:06:18] which is always going to look terrible at 720p [13:06:35] yes, i was suspeting that [13:46:43] gi11es: thank you, i found how to deal with it + UW is doing it the right way automaticly, Yay :) https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:How_to_eat_snails_--_Limpkin_style.webm [13:48:31] nice! these videos are great finds [13:49:27] I decided to be the front of audio/video om commons: https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:ListFiles/Matanya&ilshowall=1 :P [13:50:16] we lack audio and video on articles (and we suck in showing them too) so this is my recent project [13:56:39] *yawn* gmorning [13:56:51] Did we get those UI fixes merged? [14:00:46] gi11es: which comes to mind to ask, can UW support youtube-dl ? [14:01:37] matanya: we've talked about offering the same kind of import that it has for flickr for video sites, but it hasn't made the short-term roadmap yet [14:01:59] youtube and vimeo are actually willing to do the trancoding for us [14:02:05] talking is also good [14:02:11] that is good news [14:04:45] (03CR) 10Gilles: [C: 032] Only add country field when it's in the schema [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/163284 (owner: 10Gergő Tisza) [14:05:27] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Only add country field when it's in the schema [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/163284 (owner: 10Gergő Tisza) [14:13:15] (03CR) 10Gilles: [C: 031] fix spurious upload uis being created [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/163235 (owner: 10Neilk) [14:21:12] (03CR) 10Siebrand: [C: 04-1] "i18n/L10n reviewed." (031 comment) [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/163177 (owner: 10Gilles) [14:49:57] gi11es: Want to switch that message out fast so we can merge it? [14:50:19] sure [14:55:10] (03CR) 10Gilles: [C: 04-1] Log image dimensions (031 comment) [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/163217 (owner: 10Gergő Tisza) [14:59:41] (03PS2) 10Gilles: Change tooltip wording [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/163177 [14:59:52] (03CR) 10Gilles: Change tooltip wording (031 comment) [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/163177 (owner: 10Gilles) [14:59:59] marktraceur: ^ [15:01:52] (03CR) 10MarkTraceur: [C: 032] Change tooltip wording [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/163177 (owner: 10Gilles) [15:02:02] gi11es: Thanks. Looks like we're backporting during the SWAT? [15:02:12] The later SWAT that is. [15:02:34] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Change tooltip wording [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/163177 (owner: 10Gilles) [15:03:02] hmm yeah, I can take care of preparing the various changesets if you want [15:03:15] (03CR) 10Gergő Tisza: Log image dimensions (031 comment) [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/163217 (owner: 10Gergő Tisza) [15:03:23] Sure, that'd be fine [15:03:28] I can do mine if they're merged [15:04:22] marktraceur: can you first try to finish https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/163032/ ? would be worth adding to the deployed pile [15:04:33] it's the only MV one you have on gerrit that isn't +2ed yet [15:06:02] Sure [15:06:08] I'll do that after breakfast :) [15:06:44] so we're only backporting to '22, right? [15:07:21] hmm yes, seems like wikipedias are on 22 [15:08:37] No, we're backporting to commons I think [15:08:47] Er, mw.org, sorry [15:09:08] ah, cool [15:09:50] (03CR) 10Gergő Tisza: Log image dimensions (031 comment) [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/163217 (owner: 10Gergő Tisza) [15:16:12] (03PS1) 10Gilles: Change tooltip wording [extensions/MultimediaViewer] (wmf/1.25wmf1) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/163580 [15:17:03] (03CR) 10Gilles: [C: 032] Change tooltip wording [extensions/MultimediaViewer] (wmf/1.25wmf1) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/163580 (owner: 10Gilles) [15:17:42] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Change tooltip wording [extensions/MultimediaViewer] (wmf/1.25wmf1) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/163580 (owner: 10Gilles) [15:22:39] (03PS1) 10Gilles: Revert "Show initially part of the below the fold area" [extensions/MultimediaViewer] (wmf/1.25wmf1) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/163582 [15:22:41] (03PS1) 10Gilles: Revert "Layout adjustments to reduce overlap with chevron" [extensions/MultimediaViewer] (wmf/1.25wmf1) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/163583 [15:22:43] (03PS1) 10Gilles: Remove duplicate details link in metadata panel [extensions/MultimediaViewer] (wmf/1.25wmf1) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/163584 [15:22:45] (03PS1) 10Gilles: Initialise dialogOpen value to false [extensions/MultimediaViewer] (wmf/1.25wmf1) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/163585 [15:24:38] (03CR) 10Gilles: [C: 032] Revert "Show initially part of the below the fold area" [extensions/MultimediaViewer] (wmf/1.25wmf1) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/163582 (owner: 10Gilles) [15:24:45] (03CR) 10Gilles: [C: 032] Revert "Layout adjustments to reduce overlap with chevron" [extensions/MultimediaViewer] (wmf/1.25wmf1) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/163583 (owner: 10Gilles) [15:24:53] (03CR) 10Gilles: [C: 032] Remove duplicate details link in metadata panel [extensions/MultimediaViewer] (wmf/1.25wmf1) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/163584 (owner: 10Gilles) [15:24:59] (03CR) 10Gilles: [C: 032] Initialise dialogOpen value to false [extensions/MultimediaViewer] (wmf/1.25wmf1) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/163585 (owner: 10Gilles) [15:25:21] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Revert "Show initially part of the below the fold area" [extensions/MultimediaViewer] (wmf/1.25wmf1) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/163582 (owner: 10Gilles) [15:25:24] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Revert "Layout adjustments to reduce overlap with chevron" [extensions/MultimediaViewer] (wmf/1.25wmf1) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/163583 (owner: 10Gilles) [15:25:30] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Remove duplicate details link in metadata panel [extensions/MultimediaViewer] (wmf/1.25wmf1) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/163584 (owner: 10Gilles) [15:25:39] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Initialise dialogOpen value to false [extensions/MultimediaViewer] (wmf/1.25wmf1) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/163585 (owner: 10Gilles) [15:28:49] (03PS2) 10MarkTraceur: Retain image size when switching embed type [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/163032 [15:29:27] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Retain image size when switching embed type [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/163032 (owner: 10MarkTraceur) [15:30:03] (03PS3) 10MarkTraceur: Retain image size when switching embed type [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/163032 [15:30:05] I can't read [15:30:10] Or type apparently [15:47:01] gi11es: You can review 163032 again if you'd like [15:48:01] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3UploadWizard: Selection menu for country cannot be translated (for WLA starting on Oct 01) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/71160#c18 (10Gilles Dubuc) The fix should be deployed on Commons now, but I was unable to verify it, as a null edit on the campaign might be necessary and I d... [16:03:32] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3UploadWizard: Selection menu for country cannot be translated (for WLA starting on Oct 01) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/71160#c19 (10Gilles Dubuc) 5PATC>3RESO/FIX Romaine confirmed the fix on IRC [16:13:53] (03CR) 10Gilles: [C: 04-1] "Needs unit tests, the logic in regards to the default is starting to become a bit complex, it should be set in stone with tests." [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/163032 (owner: 10MarkTraceur) [16:14:12] marktraceur: as you see I've prepared the backport commits and +2ed them [16:14:18] I'll let you take care of the submodule update [16:14:41] Cool. [16:14:47] in case we happen to merge more stuff by then... [16:14:53] And I guess I need to finish up 163032 [16:15:08] if you manage to write test coverage fast enough, I guess :) [16:15:25] I mean...it's not that complicated [16:16:26] And I think this is a priority sort of thing [16:16:49] the feature itself? it's very niche compared to everything else we're backporting [16:16:57] True [16:17:06] I guess I'll make the submodule update. [16:20:12] I *thought* that was too fast. [16:20:36] git branch --track wmf/1.25wmf1 origin/wmf/1.24wmf1 [16:20:41] Good try though. [16:21:17] A for effort [16:27:42] Done now [16:27:45] So I can SWAT it out [16:55:50] if i break the transcoding servers, please let me know and i'll ease [16:56:41] It's nice of you to warn us [16:58:27] going to push several of https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Centennial_Band_Show_-_Halftime_show.webm [16:58:39] The same video? [16:58:41] kind of size and length [16:58:50] Ah. [17:06:56] that's a copyrighted pop song, isn't it? [17:07:29] I think there might be some copyright involved with the team jerseys as well [17:10:12] Trademark maybe [17:41:19] gi11es: thanks for the work :) [17:46:14] gi11es: that question was for me ? [17:46:56] Morning fabriceflorin. [17:48:17] morning, marktraceur ! [17:49:54] marktraceur : Where is the best place for me to test the new Media Viewer cards that we’d like to SWAT this afternoon? (#912, #909, #921) https://wikimedia.mingle.thoughtworks.com/projects/multimedia/cards?favorite_id=12021&view=Backport+needed [17:50:03] Uh [17:50:06] Beta, I guess [17:50:08] I am getting a strange display on the beta site, which seems very sluggish and doesn’t let me open images with Media Viewer: [17:50:09] http://en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Lightbox_demo [17:50:23] I also tried the alpha site, but am getting an error message that the page/server is not available: [17:50:23] http://multimedia-alpha.wmflabs.org/wiki/Lightbox_demo [17:50:23] it is somewhat broken now [17:50:33] see -operaions channel [17:51:07] matanya: Thanks for the heads-up! [17:51:16] marktraceur: Can we complete #914 (Change 'Use this file' tootip to 'Share / Embed’), now that Siebrand OK’d the ‘Share or Embed’ wording? [17:51:26] Uhhh [17:51:29] sure fabriceflorin :) [17:51:31] I thought we did [17:52:00] We did. [17:52:03] It's in the backport. [17:52:27] marktraceur: The status for #914 on Mingle is: Reviewed, Awaiting Other Input [17:52:41] marktraceur: Cool. So what [17:52:52] I changed it [17:52:53] … what’s the best way for me to test all these? [17:53:00] Beta, once it starts working [17:53:23] marktraceur: OK, any idea what the ETA is? [17:53:30] Nope [17:54:05] marktraceur: Got it. I’ll keep my fingers crossed for now. Are we still planning to do the SWAT at 4pm PT today, as proposed by greg-g ? [17:54:25] DNS issues...looks like it's resolving...maybe 15-20 minutes [17:54:35] fabriceflorin: The SWAT is already planned and basically ready to go [17:57:16] marktraceur: Splendid, thanks! [18:23:27] fabriceflorin: fyi, taking a sick day today so won't be around after I send this :) If everything's ready, feel free to do it (don't worry about me). marktraceur can make sure it's on the calendar, he's a quasi-deputy in the SWAT window :) [18:23:59] * marktraceur points to the gold star on his chest [18:25:21] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3MultimediaViewer: Make MultimediaViewer responsive and prettier on narrow mobile screens - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/71423 (10George Barnick (Meiko)) 3UNCO p:3Unprio s:3normal a:3None Created attachment 16626 --> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/attachment.cgi?id=16626... [18:29:43] marktraceur: if I wanted to perpetuate that culture (I don't) I'd get you a shirt :) [18:30:46] or a real badge, I guess, that's cooler [18:30:59] (everyone should have a badge) [18:31:10] But then they aren't special [18:31:20] and there in lies the problem [18:31:46] * greg-g goes [19:03:18] matanya: yes I was just saying that the last video you posted had a copyrighted song being played. I'm not sure that it's credited properly in the original video or that the video qualifies as CC. but I'm no expert... [19:08:30] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3MultimediaViewer: Make MultimediaViewer responsive and prettier on narrow mobile screens - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/71423#c1 (10Tisza Gergő) 5UNCO>3NEW p:5Unprio>3Low [[mw:Extension:MobileFrontend]] has its own (responsive) media viewer, so mobile issues are low prior... [19:08:58] greg-g : Thanks for the heads-up, hope you feel better soon … Glad we’re in good hands with marktraceur for today’s SWAT. I hope we can figure out a way for me to test these changes on beta this afternoon. If not, I will test them on mw.org after the 4pm SWAT, and we can make a go/nogo decision about Commons after that. [19:14:53] fabriceflorin: Are we thinking of reverting the changes before tomorrow's MW update window? [19:24:39] marktraceur: That is not our intention (to revert the changes). But we have to consider that it may be a distant possibility, if something goes horribly wrong with what we deploy today. [19:25:16] I just wish I could test the changes somewhere ... [20:08:01] (03CR) 10Kaldari: [C: 04-1] (bug 42979) Allow more than 50 flickr images. (031 comment) [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45951 (owner: 10Nischayn22) [20:10:47] (03PS4) 10MarkTraceur: WIP Add viewing options panel [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148880 [20:11:22] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] WIP Add viewing options panel [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148880 (owner: 10MarkTraceur) [20:14:33] (03PS5) 10MarkTraceur: WIP Add viewing options panel [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148880 [20:15:11] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] WIP Add viewing options panel [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148880 (owner: 10MarkTraceur) [20:18:00] (03CR) 10Siebrand: [C: 031] "i18n/L10n reviewed." [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148880 (owner: 10MarkTraceur) [20:20:29] marktraceur: Beta seems to be back up, but I can’t see the latest changes. Any idea why? I’m looking for them on this test page: http://en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Lightbox_demo [20:21:26] I also checked alpha, which is also working again as well, but can’t see the changes there either: http://multimedia-alpha.wmflabs.org/wiki/Lightbox_demo [20:36:33] (03CR) 10Siebrand: "i18n/L10n reviewed." (031 comment) [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/163177 (owner: 10Gilles) [20:37:13] Alpha doesn't get updated. [20:37:21] Beta may have had its updates interrupted by the outage... [21:38:48] marktraceur: is it possible to do chunked uploads using pywikibot ? [21:57:48] fabriceflorin: It's a known issue [21:57:55] It's not been getting code updates in for a while [21:57:59] I'm just in the midst of fixing it [21:58:10] Or rather, waiting for the post fixing scripts to run to update all the things [21:59:12] Reedy: Thanks for the update! Can you let me know when the scripts are done? I’d like to do a bit of testing before we deploy to production … :) [21:59:17] Yup [21:59:17] https://integration.wikimedia.org/ci/job/beta-scap-eqiad/ [22:00:01] It would look like it's been broken since friday [22:12:15] matanya: In theory, I suppose. I don't know if they have an API for it. [22:12:46] marktraceur: got an answer, a guide and code working in pywikibot channel, thanks :) [22:14:11] thanks Reedy [22:14:24] It's syncing to apaches now [22:42:59] fabriceflorin: It should be good now [22:43:12] Reedy: Merci beaucoup! [22:45:03] likewise, thanks again for unsticking that Reedy [22:45:06] fabriceflorin: Is it looking OK? I'm going to do the backport in about 15 minutes [22:45:18] chrismcmahon: I'll re-enable the beta update job on jenkins [22:45:25] awesome [22:47:14] marktraceur: Yes, it’s all looking great, thank you! Keeps getting better all the time. We’re good to go for the backport, and I’m accepting all the cards I just tested. :) [22:47:20] Sweet. [22:48:09] Reedy: Thanks so much for getting beta back in shape! Makes our work so much easier :) [23:07:09] fabriceflorin: Looks like it's going out now [23:08:15] marktraceur: Cool. I’ll test on mw.org in a few minutes and let you know if I see any issues. [23:08:26] Well, wait for the log from Max [23:36:33] marktraceur: It seems that we have regressed to the previous version on mw.org, from a week ago. Is that normal? Also, where can I find the log from Max? [23:37:21] Uhhhh. [23:37:30] Hold on [23:38:46] It shouldn't have changed, I *think* [23:38:53] It's possible I messed it up [23:40:34] I think I messed up. [23:40:47] Hold on, let me fix it and tell max to sync the new change [23:51:28] fabriceflorin: OK, the change seems to be synced now [23:51:38] I think the messages got re-cached as the old versions [23:51:49] So the more details button is broken again but will be fixed the same way as before [23:53:06] Looks like it synced at least, having Fabrice test it now [23:54:15] marktraceur: It looks like we now have the latest version, but it may need another scap: it still has the long name for the blue button, and the tooltips also need to be refeshed. [23:54:24] That's what I said [23:54:39] The messages got screwed but should be fixed when the l10n bot runs [23:55:12] fabriceflorin: Are the bugfixes working at least? [23:55:13] * bd808 shakes fist at rl cache races [23:56:29] fabriceflorin: If it doesn't get fixed automagically I'll try to run the message updater thingamajig. [23:56:43] Either tonight or tomorrow [23:56:58] marktraceur: Yeah, the bug fixes look good to me, as far as I can tell. [23:57:15] KK [23:57:21] In that case I'm off to dinner [23:57:31] I'll check on the messages when I get back. [23:57:35] So do we need to get ops to run the scap again? It would be good to have this cleaned up by the time we go to Commons tomorrow. [23:57:49] Got it. Enjoy your dinner. [23:58:15] We will definitely clean it up by tomorrow. [23:59:00] marktraceur: Cool. Thanks for making those changes. They may not seem very important in isolation, but together they make the product more beautiful, simple and usable. :)