[02:39:32] 3MediaWiki / 3Uploading: Description page sometimes not created during upload - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66355 (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) 3NEW p:3Unprio s:3normal a:3None Splitting off from bug 32551. Occasionally an upload succeeds without a description page being created. Its unclear what... [03:24:03] Wow, can you say oversharpened: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Cliffs,_III,_Cheddar,_England-LCCN2002696523.jpg [03:46:29] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3UploadWizard: UW fails to load with "Unknown error: "unknown".", js error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65958#c7 (10Tisza Gergő) 5PATC>3NEW p:5Highes>3Normal s:5major>3normal We might want to check how this could happen in the first place; IIRC the code always passes... [04:00:45] Hmm, why does this file not work in chrome for me https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c5/Sumanah-wcusa-2014-keynote.ogg [04:00:56] it works in mplayer [04:01:23] it works in firefox [04:05:29] 3MediaWiki / 3Uploading: Description page sometimes not created during upload - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66355 (10Greg Grossmeier) p:5Unprio>3Normal [04:51:20] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3MultimediaViewer: Handle manual fullscreen event - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66356 (10Tisza Gergő) 3NEW p:3Unprio s:3enhanc a:3None When the user switches to fullscreen via F11, the viewer should automatically switch into fullscreen mode. This would be particularly use... [04:53:01] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3MultimediaViewer: Make navigation buttons (next/prev, close, fullscreen) easily accessible from keyboard - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66357 (10Tisza Gergő) 3NEW p:3Unprio s:3enhanc a:3None Nvigation buttons (next/prev, close, fullscreen) should be first in tab order (wi... [05:32:56] ugh why is TMH so utterly broken for me locally [05:33:03] and why does it still work at commons... [05:40:24] ah, i need $wgIncludejQueryMigrate = true; [05:43:00] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3TimedMediaHandler: TMH requires $wgIncludejQueryMigrate = true; ($.browser) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66359 (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) 3NEW p:3Unprio s:3normal a:3None Seems to be hung up on $.browser() [05:51:58] Wow this code is silly [06:02:59] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3UploadWizard: Template used as campaign headerLabel is cached unwantedly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64685#c15 (10Romaine) I hope the Multimedia team is interested in the ideas of the UploadWizard from the users who use them? [06:04:29] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3UploadWizard: Template used as campaign headerLabel is cached unwantedly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64685#c16 (10Romaine) (In reply to Gilles Dubuc from comment #11) > Yes, that sounds like a much better idea. Basically define the start and end > date in the campaign settings... [06:11:38] Also, none of the i18n works on TimedMediaHandler locally. Like seriously wtf [06:35:36] (03PS1) 10Gergő Tisza: Change "learn more" to "learn more about this image" [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/138303 [06:36:11] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Change "learn more" to "learn more about this image" [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/138303 (owner: 10Gergő Tisza) [06:59:16] (03PS1) 10Gergő Tisza: Show Commons link to logged out users [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/138305 [06:59:16] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3ImageMap: PHP Notice: Undefined variable: title in /.../extensions/ImageMap/ImageMap_body.php on line 165 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66361 (10[[kgh]]) 3NEW p:3Unprio s:3normal a:3None This is surely also a result of erroneous usage of the extension on the wiki but pro... [06:59:48] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Show Commons link to logged out users [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/138305 (owner: 10Gergő Tisza) [07:02:21] (03PS2) 10Gergő Tisza: Show Commons link to logged out users [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/138305 [07:09:40] (03PS2) 10Gergő Tisza: Change "learn more" to "learn more about this image" [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/138303 [07:26:32] (03CR) 10Eloquence: "Suggest changing "image" to "file" to future-proof, consistent with "Use this file"." [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/138303 (owner: 10Gergő Tisza) [07:34:06] (03PS3) 10Gergő Tisza: Change "learn more" to "learn more about this image" [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/138303 [07:49:14] (03PS1) 10Brian Wolff: Only do pop up video player if we actually have a bigger size [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/138307 [08:00:49] (03PS2) 10Brian Wolff: Have text for play link so it can be clicked by non-css browsers. [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/110310 [08:11:15] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3ImageMap: PHP Notice: Undefined variable: title in /.../extensions/ImageMap/ImageMap_body.php on line 165 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66361 (10Andre Klapper) p:5Unprio>3Normal [08:37:32] loading https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sequence:Cats&withJS=MediaWiki:MwEmbed.js -- which in turn loads http://prototype.wikimedia.org/mwe-gadget/mwEmbed/remotes/mediaWiki.js?uselang=en [08:37:41] Like really. Who thought that was a good idea [08:46:54] bawolff: better than https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:MwEmbed.js&oldid=34620747 ! [08:47:10] wtf [08:47:34] seriously, wtf [08:47:57] I need to seriously stop reading these old pages [08:48:34] I wonder if i installed a copy of MW 1.16 on tool labs, with https://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/branches/MwEmbedStandAlone/remotes/mediaWiki.js if the sequencer thing would still work [08:49:18] do it! [08:50:20] Hmm, did anyone take a screencast of this stupid thing. All I want to know is what it looks like [08:50:35] although I probably should try and do the install MW 1.16 and see [08:51:05] best line of the docs [08:51:11] "Its best to publish sequences in a separate firefox profile. This way your main browser will remain responsive and your sequence will be published faster" [08:51:31] Our feature is so good that we reccomend starting firefox with different command line options so it doesn't explode [08:52:16] "Save often Its best to save often in case the browser, or the sequencer become non-responsive." [08:56:40] Looking at the [[File:Kaltura sequencer screencast sep23.ogv]] - this must have taken a lot of work to put together, and yet was left to utterly bitrot [08:59:11] woah [08:59:14] that looks pretty cool [09:01:07] Doesn't look like it was very popular though https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:PrefixIndex&prefix=&namespace=104 [09:02:54] Kind of seems like a bad design choice to require video combining/rendering on the client side, using a custom firefox extension [09:04:15] On a related note, https://popcorn.webmaker.org/ is cool [09:21:14] 3MediaWiki / 3File management: GIMP file format images display green instead of B&W - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66323 (10Andre Klapper) p:5Unprio>3Normal [10:01:45] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3TimedMediaHandler: TMH requires $wgIncludejQueryMigrate = true; ($.browser) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66359 (10Andre Klapper) p:5Unprio>3High [10:01:59] 3MediaWiki / 3File management: Scaling of images should take place in a linear colour space - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66337 (10Andre Klapper) p:5Unprio>3Normal [12:11:17] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3UploadWizard: Error handling: api-error-unknownerror - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66366 (10Steinsplitter) 3NEW p:3Unprio s:3normal a:3None Created attachment 15599 --> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/attachment.cgi?id=15599&action=edit screenshot 1 Error handling shou... [12:11:58] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3UploadWizard: Error handling: api-error-unknownerror - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66366#c1 (10Steinsplitter) Created attachment 15600 --> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/attachment.cgi?id=15600&action=edit screenshot 2 [12:17:14] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3UploadWizard: Error handling: api-error-unknownerror - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66366#c2 (10Nicolas Raoul) Thanks! Ask me any details, though I guess you can reproduce it easily. [15:34:44] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3UploadWizard: UploadWizard unable to recover from warnings - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46741#c29 (10Adam Cuerden) This also causes problems with PNG/JPEG versions - JPEGs display better, but are lossy, so, with scans and restorations it's pretty normal to have both a JPEG and... [15:35:18] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3UploadWizard: UploadWizard unable to recover from warnings - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46741#c30 (10Adam Cuerden) (By which I mean that the recent patch actually made the uploads ''more'' restrictive.) [16:27:21] * marktraceur finally actually starts on out of focus stuff at least partly [16:27:42] I have failed, thus far, to write a weekly update because Wednesday and Thursday were both busy [16:27:49] And Friday was me out of town [16:27:53] I'll probably do that today. [16:31:16] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3GWToolset: Complex categories make GWToolset fail on step 3 (batch preview) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65620#c7 (10Mark Holmquist) 5ASSI>3NEW a:5Tisza Gergő>3None Hey Dan - can you take a look at this, and at least comment on Gilles's hypothesis in comment 6? (unassi... [16:54:36] marktraceur: So much for 'weekly'. :-) [16:57:05] Weekly ish [17:02:39] * marktraceur waves to tgr and fabriceflorin [17:03:00] I'm WFHing today because I have a potential MediaWiki contributor dropping by to work on things [17:03:01] marktraceur: Hey Mark! Where are you physically today? [17:03:15] So I'm in the Mission [17:03:33] Oh, OK. Can you join us via Google Hangouts at 1:30 to plan our next steps about enwiki and dewiki? [17:03:41] I'll be trying (in vain) to catch up with 1. Review stuff 2. The weekly update 3. Out of focus stuff [17:03:45] fabriceflorin: Yeah [17:05:06] marktraceur: Cool. I think we may need to focus more on Media Viewer this week than other projects, in order to make some of the improvements which could make the tool more appealing to our editor community. Would that work for you? [17:05:29] Ehhhhhh [17:05:38] Let's talk about it at 13:30? [17:05:46] Maybe stretch the meeting a bit if we need to [17:06:04] marktraceur: I know, it’s not my top choice either … but we have a responsibility to address our community’s concerns. [17:06:42] marktraceur: Good idea. I will add another 30 mins. for just the core team, once we’ve discussed the issue our friends in community engagement. [17:06:47] We have a responsibility to address our community's *legitimate* concerns, but we also have to balance our other responsibilities and our own concerns [17:07:18] fabriceflorin: Careful with the term "core team", to me it means "anomie, AaronSchulz, and those people" [17:08:49] marktraceur: Yeah, I’m not proposing we stop everything, just increase the focus to complete all the Media Viewer tasks first in our current sprint, and take on a few more as needed. Let’s discuss at 1:30pm. [17:10:01] marktraceur: I was talking about the ‘multimedia team’, which is the unit we are now assigned to. Happy to get advice from others, but ultimately, that team is responsible for setting the direction for our work. [17:14:18] marktraceur: So for example, let’s try to move these MV tickets forward in the current sprint: #429 (Show Commons link to logged out users), #664 (Prominent 'View in browser' links in Download panel ), #546 (Add tooltips to Media Viewer). http://ur1.ca/gtyrp [17:15:22] * marktraceur looks doubtfully [17:15:44] I think those could all get done pretty quick, but I don't think I'm the person who will do them [17:18:59] #429 has a patch awaiting review: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/138305/ [17:20:31] marktraceur: Perhaps there are other Media Viewer cards you could take on, then — how about #700 - Display errors in IE? Or other top priority cards in the cycle that starts Wednesday? http://ur1.ca/h7ljr [17:21:49] I don't think you understand [17:21:55] fabriceflorin: I am going to be swamped today [17:22:07] marktraceur: What are you working on today? [17:22:08] I still have two reviews to do [17:22:20] And on top of that I haven't even started the out of focus stuff that gi11es handed off [17:22:42] Plus I guess I'm helping deal with some of the community stuff [17:22:55] And if there's any *new* out of focus stuff, I haven't even seen it. [17:24:00] marktraceur: Thanks for your clarifications. Perhaps you could find a way to reduce some of the other tasks for now, since we are in the middle of a tense time. Also, Keegan and I can spend more time in the community channels, so you can focus on developing solutions that address the most serious issues. [17:24:29] We... [17:24:42] fabriceflorin: I'm not changing anything on my mental TODO list until we talk at 13:30. [17:25:58] marktraceur: Yes, let’s talk at 1:30 … I wanted you to know right away what my recommendation is in terms of focus for coming days. [17:27:03] That's super, but I want to talk about it with the rest of the team. [17:53:44] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3MultimediaViewer: Image dimensions in IE10 are skewed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66244#c1 (10Tisza Gergő) Reported for iOS 7 Safari as well: https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AMultimedia%2FAbout_Media_Viewer&diff=1032349&oldid=1032300 [17:57:23] (03CR) 10MarkTraceur: "Ori, can you comment on this? Bawolff thinks your patch may have caused the issue." [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/137529 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66143) (owner: 10Brian Wolff) [17:58:54] fabriceflorin: FYI I made patches for some text changes that were requested a lot on the talk page: [17:58:57] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/138212/ [17:59:00] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/138303/ [18:05:44] 3MediaWiki / 3File management: Scaling of images should take place in a linear colour space - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66337 (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) p:5Normal>3Low [18:24:33] (03CR) 10Mdale: [C: 031 V: 032] "I have checked this locally and seems to work." [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/138307 (owner: 10Brian Wolff) [18:30:20] (03PS5) 10Gergő Tisza: Use original URL when setting download for original [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/127655 (owner: 10MarkTraceur) [18:31:49] (03CR) 10Gergő Tisza: "Trivial text change to address Gilles' concern about text inconsistency." [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/127655 (owner: 10MarkTraceur) [18:32:02] (03CR) 10Gergő Tisza: [C: 032] Use original URL when setting download for original [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/127655 (owner: 10MarkTraceur) [18:34:39] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Use original URL when setting download for original [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/127655 (owner: 10MarkTraceur) [19:01:14] (03CR) 10Gergő Tisza: "Note that there are some existing popups with no delay (the reuse box and the survey); maybe that should be unified. Also, if we mention E" [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/136508 (owner: 10MarkTraceur) [19:20:23] (03CR) 10Brian Wolff: "I tend to agree with the min size being too high. I think 600 would probably be the upper limit on what is a good idea, and probably 360 o" [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/138307 (owner: 10Brian Wolff) [19:27:45] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3UploadWizard: Add text describing allowed file types under "Select a media file to donate" button - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36743#c9 (10Mark Holmquist) 5ASSI>3NEW a:5Mark Holmquist>3None Sorry, Andre. I think there's a configuration variable that will tell you what... [21:24:51] i always have a problem with [[Special:UplaodWizard/Flickr]] whereby if i 'try' to change the description of an image, my browser freezes.. [21:26:17] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3GWToolset: Complex categories make GWToolset fail on step 3 (batch preview) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65620#c8 (10dan) hey mark - i’ll take a look at this on wednesday or sooner if i can. [21:26:19] and they i have to turn the browser off which kills my cache.. [21:50:40] (03CR) 10Gergő Tisza: "There are no popups in fullscreen mode, is that intentional?" [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/136508 (owner: 10MarkTraceur) [21:54:08] (03CR) 10Jforrester: ""Created: foo" and "Uploaded: bar" could work in English, but I imagine other languages are going to have pain points with poor grammar to" [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/138212 (owner: 10Gergő Tisza) [21:55:23] (03CR) 10Gergő Tisza: "Also I wonder if it is intentional or just an omission that we are not showing a tooltip for the Commons icon? (The message exists, we jus" [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/136508 (owner: 10MarkTraceur) [21:58:49] (03CR) 10Gergő Tisza: "Well the fundamental problem is that the parameter is unpredictable and we are not able to fix that (not before Wikidata on Commons, anywa" [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/138212 (owner: 10Gergő Tisza) [21:59:12] tgr: That works for me. [21:59:25] tgr: But yes, let's make sure it's fixed as part of the structured data work. :-) [21:59:41] James_F: cool, thanks for the warning about en-GB [22:00:36] tgr: It's more about en; it doesn't work for en-IN, en-PK, en-AU, en-… [22:00:55] tgr: en covers 2.3bn speakers, for whom < 15% would have found that wording normal. [22:01:04] Wikidata has proper date ranges and precisions, so it will be easy(er) to deal with the issue [22:01:32] Yes, ish. [22:01:37] But more cases. [22:01:50] So five labels (or whatever) rather than one. :-) [22:02:31] yeah, but those labels don't have to be replicated in each extension, unlike now [22:02:46] Wikidata can just support its own date localization messages [22:13:07] True. [22:43:36] (03PS1) 10Pginer: Icon adjusmtents [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/138482 [22:52:10] (03PS4) 10Gergő Tisza: Tooltips for loads of things [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/136508 (owner: 10MarkTraceur) [22:52:36] (03CR) 10Gergő Tisza: "Fixed some issues:" [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/136508 (owner: 10MarkTraceur) [22:55:59] #finally [22:56:02] Sent the update [22:59:03] pginer: I made https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:MarkTraceur/Bugs_in_UploadWizard_that_might_be_cool_to_fix for you and Abbey [22:59:52] thanks marktraceur [23:02:12] (03PS2) 10Gergő Tisza: Change "Created on X" to "Created X" [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/138212 [23:03:17] (03PS2) 10Gergő Tisza: Icon adjustments [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/138482 (owner: 10Pginer) [23:42:44] (03PS3) 10Jforrester: Change "Created on X" and "Uploaded on X" to "Created: X" etc. [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/138212 (owner: 10Gergő Tisza) [23:42:54] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 031] Change "Created on X" and "Uploaded on X" to "Created: X" etc. [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/138212 (owner: 10Gergő Tisza)