[00:02:03] 3MediaWiki / 3File management: upgradeRow() constantly triggered for invalid SVG and DjVu files - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41090#c5 (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) Doesn't really look like this is actually much of an issue though: MariaDB [commonswiki_p]> select count(*) from image where img_major_mime =... [00:06:47] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3TimedMediaHandler: Fix "JQMIGRATE: Use of jQuery.fn.data('events') is deprecated" in TimedMediaHandler - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65428#c8 (10Krinkle) (In reply to Tisza Gergő from comment #5) > Hard to tell how exactly it should be done without knowing how you track > when a... [00:18:14] Keegan: See my response to Evan-Amos here: https://twitter.com/VanamoMedia/status/469066973591379968 and here: http://ur1.ca/hd48g [00:22:36] (03CR) 10Gergő Tisza: "Works for me with EventLogging disabled (as it should - the dependency is defined with a class_exists( 'ResourceLoaderSchemaModule' ) guar" [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/133406 (owner: 10Gergő Tisza) [00:22:48] 3MediaWiki / 3File management: Image page should list places that image redirects are used - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18017#c11 (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) 5NEW>3RES/FIX This appears to have been fixed somewhere around the line. Consider [[commons:File:%22A_Spiritual_Landscape%22_by_Lucian_Popov.j... [00:26:43] (03CR) 10MarkTraceur: "You're right - but I still don't see any event.gif calls going out..." [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/133406 (owner: 10Gergő Tisza) [00:29:47] 3MediaWiki / 3File management: For users whose browser doesn't support APNG files, show them an animated GIF of the file instead - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53167#c3 (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) p:5Low>3Lowest lowering priority in light of comment 2. Possible wontfix [00:31:17] 3MediaWiki / 3File management: Some broken animated gifs not recognized as animated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24871 (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) [00:32:33] 3MediaWiki / 3File management: If oi_archive_name = '' give error instead of linking to obviously invalid url - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22847 (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) [00:32:34] (03CR) 10Gergő Tisza: "Some sort of config issue? There should be EventLogging calls happening event without this patch." [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/133406 (owner: 10Gergő Tisza) [00:34:15] Agh, got me [00:35:11] (03CR) 10MarkTraceur: [C: 032] "/me kicks ground abashedly" [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/133406 (owner: 10Gergő Tisza) [00:35:37] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Basic funnel data logging for UploadWizard [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/133406 (owner: 10Gergő Tisza) [00:39:03] 3MediaWiki / 3File management: wfShellExec destroys unicode characters if no utf-8 locale available on the system - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31752 (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) [00:40:48] 3MediaWiki / 3File management: Show images on image description page previews - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/11243 (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) p:5Low>3Normal [00:42:48] 3MediaWiki / 3File management: Allowed memory size exhausted when using API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30751#c9 (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) Is this still an issue. I think we made it so djvu metadata is only loaded when absolutely needed (of the image table entry is in cache) [00:48:48] 3MediaWiki / 3File management: Add "Other resolutions"-links to .svg files as well (PNG thumbnails) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/6834#c28 (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) *** Bug 56508 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** [00:48:48] 3MediaWiki / 3File management: Default "Other resolutions" options do not make sense for SVG - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/56508#c4 (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) 5NEW>3RES/DUP (In reply to Dominic from comment #3) > I think generally the options offered in "Other resolutions" don't make a > lot sense, b... [01:06:03] 3MediaWiki / 3File management: Description for remotely embedded pictures from Commons can not be edited: Edit page is empty - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44626#c5 (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) 5NEW>3RES/INV (In reply to DaSch from comment #3) > Okay, somehow reloading the page helps. Does the edit page... [01:08:03] 3MediaWiki / 3File management: Non-standard EXIF GPS location not displayed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32074 (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) p:5Low>3Lowest [01:08:33] 3MediaWiki / 3File management: Viewing metadata for deleted files and old revisions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17370 (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) p:5Low>3Lowest [01:11:33] 3MediaWiki / 3File management: Allow way to choose thumbnail frame for video on its File: description page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/20647 (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) [01:11:33] 3MediaWiki / 3File management: Ability to specify default page of multi-paged media - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42632 (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) [01:20:33] 3MediaWiki / 3File management: Thumbnailing artifacts (possibly from interpreting color space metadata) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34133#c3 (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) 5NEW>3RES/FIX Seems fixed (presumably due to image magick upgrade). The strips in history look like old cached versions 94px (cach... [01:25:33] 3MediaWiki / 3File management: Old revisions served with wrong content type - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25226#c5 (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) 5NEW>3RES/WON Well the original files were deleted (Presumably still available at Special:Undelete)... I don't really think there's much we can do here. Fact i... [01:28:03] 3MediaWiki / 3File management: For users whose browser doesn't support APNG files, show them an animated GIF of the file instead - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53167#c4 (10James Forrester) (In reply to Brion Vibber from comment #2) > I'd kinda prefer to phase out animated GIF in favor of proper video for... [01:30:03] 3MediaWiki / 3File management: thumbnail colours get altered - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29439#c3 (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) 5NEW>3RES/WOR Looks like an icc profile - U.S. Web Coated (SWOP) v2 (black without it, white with the profile) Now a days, thumbnails keep their colour profiles, so I'm goin... [01:34:48] 3MediaWiki / 3File management: Old revisions of file pages should have old versions of files/images as the primary image. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18107 (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) [01:37:43] (03PS3) 10Brian Wolff: Output ogg metadata on image description page. [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/108203 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47487) [01:39:48] 3MediaWiki / 3File management: Warning needed if dimensions of reupload differ - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/12490#c1 (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) p:5Low>3Lowest There's often times where people upload a new version with different dimensions. I think there's enough false positives that we shouldn't giv... [01:43:03] 3MediaWiki / 3File management: Local evaluation of magic words for commons files - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18616#c4 (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) 5NEW>3RES/WON I'm going to wontfix this. Well I could see {{CONTENTLANGUAGE}} as having a valid use case here, there is the {{int:lang}} hack already work... [01:45:48] 3MediaWiki / 3File management: Commons uploads: Support spreadsheet data format ODS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43151#c14 (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) (In reply to Nemo from comment #13) > (In reply to comment #12) > > This report is unclear enough (plus covers several issues) that I might close > > it a... [01:49:48] 3MediaWiki / 3File management: Give MIME on links to image pages + Switch to disable image linking - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/9248#c8 (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) p:5Low>3Lowest Given that google likes our images now, and that in all probability, nobody looks at a type attribute on an , should th... [01:57:18] 3MediaWiki / 3File management: Redirect file page of foreign files directly to commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44471#c6 (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) *** Bug 38634 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** [01:57:18] 3MediaWiki / 3File management: Get rid of duplicate image description pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38634#c3 (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) 5NEW>3RES/DUP *** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 44471 *** [02:10:48] 3MediaWiki / 3File management: Allow listing of deleted files - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29124#c5 (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) p:5Lowest>3Normal (In reply to Rainer Rillke @commons.wikimedia from comment #4) > Useful on a per-user-basis because: > > When patrolling new files, you have to check the... [02:46:03] 3MediaWiki / 3File management: Commons uploads: Support spreadsheet data format ODS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43151 (10Andre Klapper) [04:25:40] tgr: early feedback from it.wp: We've named our product Media Viewer, even though MW convention is to use CamelCase, so they're calling it MediaViewer, and we should rename our product accordingly :D [04:26:26] * Keegan <3 [04:26:36] eh, we call it differently at every different place [04:27:01] It was light-hearted :) [04:27:03] Media Viewer, MediaViewer, MultimediaViewer, whatever [04:28:09] actually I think it is kind of annoying [04:28:17] the multiple names, I mean [04:29:02] you go to, say, bugzilla to file a bug to the MediaViewer component, send half a minute looking for before realizing it has a different name there [04:30:04] True, there's mental juggling 'cuz then you use Media Viewer in the bug, but use MMV as the acronym [04:31:16] that too, the javascript namespace is mw.mmv which is totally misleading if you do not know MediaViewer is not the real name [04:32:34] On the flip side, it makes me quite happy that naming conventions for our products are pretty flexible because well, we're not branding anything, really. [04:32:48] Spending a ton of money on logo design and name maintenance [04:32:51] Anywho [06:20:24] (03CR) 10Gilles: "I think the real issue with TMH is MwEmbedSupport, which contains several 3rd-party libraries." [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134960 (owner: 10MarkTraceur) [06:25:33] (03CR) 10Gilles: [C: 04-1] jQuery 1.9 fixes (032 comments) [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134960 (owner: 10MarkTraceur) [06:30:33] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3GWToolset: Unexplained GWT blocked user - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65620#c6 (10Gilles Dubuc) This is possibly related to recent changes Dan has made to the Batch preview page: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/127839/ [06:41:52] (03CR) 10Gilles: [C: 04-1] "Is there no alternative forked fix or pull request that doesn't rely in $.support? The documentation isn't very reassuring about future-pr" [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134954 (owner: 10MarkTraceur) [13:01:48] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3UploadWizard: Support Clipboard Based Image Upload - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53235 (10Florian) [15:43:18] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3UploadWizard: UW support for other templates than {{Information}} (eg {{Artwork}}) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49443#c3 (10Jean-Fred) What is the current status of this? I see there is activity on the Gerrit patchset ; is there anything where we could help? [15:51:06] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3UploadWizard: UW hangs forever in beta labs, js error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65680 (10Chris McMahon) 3NEW p:3Unprio s:3major a:3None As a logged-in user, visit http://commons.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Special:UploadWizard UW never loads, just shows a spinne... [16:15:03] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3UploadWizard: Evaluate both camera and object position from EXIF 2.2 if available - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58169 (10Jean-Fred) [16:15:18] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3CommonsMetadata: CommonsMetadata should parse EXIF dates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64014 (10Jean-Fred) [16:16:03] 3MediaWiki / 3File management: EXIF data shown incorrectly for fractional values - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/3892 (10Jean-Fred) [16:16:34] 3MediaWiki / 3Uploading: Allow "html" in exif tags - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25707 (10Jean-Fred) [16:16:48] 3MediaWiki / 3File management: EXIF metadata display table width unlimited for oversize data fields - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42909 (10Jean-Fred) [16:17:18] 3MediaWiki / 3File management: some photos have unreadable EXIF info because it's not in Unicode - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41020 (10Jean-Fred) [16:17:33] 3MediaWiki / 3File management: Broken link parsing in EXIF Metadata for camera names like - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40181 (10Jean-Fred) [16:19:03] 3MediaWiki / 3File management: Include at least some EXIF metadata in resized pictures - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18871 (10Jean-Fred) [16:35:03] 3MediaWiki / 3File management: EXIF support (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65681 (10James Forrester) [16:41:48] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3UploadWizard: UW hangs forever in beta labs, js error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65680#c1 (10Tisza Gergő) $wgEventLoggingSchemas[ 'UploadWizardStep' ] is defined too early, and might get overwritten by the EventLogging extension, depending on what order things are included in. [17:07:50] 3MediaWiki / 3File management: 'Original file' (full resolution) returns reduced/earlier version despite all indication that the current version should be bigger - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65683 (10Jean-Fred) 3NEW p:3Unprio s:3normal a:3None Problem encountered by Ally on the Beta Cluster and... [17:08:18] 3MediaWiki / 3File management: 'Original file' (full resolution) returns reduced/earlier version despite all indication that the current version should be bigger - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65683 (10Jean-Fred) [17:14:18] 3MediaWiki / 3File management: 'Original file' (full resolution) returns reduced/earlier version despite all indication that the current version should be bigger - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65683#c1 (10Greg Grossmeier) *** Bug 65684 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** [17:14:44] greg-g: hmm, that's a new one [17:15:03] 3MediaWiki / 3File management: 'Original file' (full resolution) returns reduced/earlier version despite all indication that the current version should be bigger - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65683 (10Greg Grossmeier) p:5Unprio>3High s:5normal>3major [17:15:22] oh never mind, just caching [17:16:48] 3MediaWiki / 3File management: 'Original file' (full resolution) returns reduced/earlier version despite all indication that the current version should be bigger - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65683#c2 (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) Its a stale entry in varnish cache http://upload.beta.wmflabs.org/wikipedia/c... [17:19:50] gi11es: Well *somebody* discovered the recheck command [17:20:04] * marktraceur tabs through like fifty gerritmails [17:20:20] bawolff: ahh, that makes sense [17:21:21] Oh my god it's because jslint is passing in UW now [17:21:25] Oh my god that's awesome [17:22:56] well done [17:35:31] (03PS2) 10MarkTraceur: jQuery 1.9 fixes [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134960 [18:24:01] Hm [18:24:27] It looks like we had code that allowed error overrides but thedj and nischayn22 had some conversations about needing massive refactoring before being able to do it right [18:26:15] I'm going to try to figure out what needs to be done [18:28:17] fabriceflorin: FYI I'm starting some exploration into https://wikimedia.mingle.thoughtworks.com/projects/multimedia/cards/637 [18:28:44] Fixing the bug may be easier than I thought; fixing the code we need to support the bugfix looks like it will be the hard part [18:29:26] Thanks, Mark, glad to hear it. Can you tell me more about the code needed to support the fix? [18:30:53] fabriceflorin: Basically it's the worst [18:30:58] marktraceur : Also, would you like me to pull up some of the feedback posts from people saying UW doesn’t recover well from error messages? Or do you have that part covered? [18:31:05] The worst? [18:31:27] fabriceflorin: The data model that UW uses for uploads and upload lists is pretty terrible; it requires the order to be maintained [18:31:42] We need to fix that...I actually did once upon a time, not sure if that patch is still worthwhile [18:32:08] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/68835/ [18:32:46] What do you mean by ‘requires the order to be maintained’? Might be worth it to open a Mingle ticket to identify what needs to be done. How long do you think this would take? [18:32:46] But it needed to be a big patch [18:33:13] fabriceflorin: If the patch I just linked can be salvaged it might be shortish...but if thedj thinks there needs to be more done, then we'll need more time probably [18:34:09] Oh, OK, Should we discuss whether or not to take that on this week? If it’s a big job, we may want to pick a smaller ticket that can be done in less time. [18:34:41] (03PS15) 10MarkTraceur: Massive refactor [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/68835 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39746) [18:34:45] I'm talking to thedj about it [18:34:45] Also, I am getting generally positive feedback to View Original File (#630): https://wikimedia.mingle.thoughtworks.com/projects/multimedia/cards/630 [18:34:59] Or will be, if he gets back to me [18:35:03] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Massive refactor [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/68835 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39746) (owner: 10MarkTraceur) [18:35:12] I know, Jenkins, I know [18:35:44] So #630 is something we will want to take on sooner rather than later, methinks. I think it’s half a point, if I remember correctly. [18:35:55] Hm [18:36:12] fabriceflorin: I thought I saw some emails with the gist being "let's do this right" [18:37:34] I think we need some kind of placehoder solution soon. If we have to wait for a year to do this right, this will be a constant thorn for us. The current flaw is too large to ignore … [18:38:11] fabriceflorin: My understanding is that fixing the download dialog would be enough "right" [18:38:51] I am not convinced that the download solution is sufficient. It’s not prominent enough and is still several clicks away. [18:40:42] But I’m fine with waiting until next week, when all these discussions will have geled more. I just wanted to give you some ideas of low hanging fruit that you can take on, if you’re looking for work to do. I also think that adding tooltips is an easy fix that will get us a lot of bang for the buck: https://wikimedia.mingle.thoughtworks.com/projects/multimedia/cards/546 [18:41:52] I'm going to rebase this refactor patch and see if it's helpful [18:43:48] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3GWToolset: Operational issues for very large TIFFs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65217 (10Tisza Gergő) [18:43:50] 3MediaWiki / 3File management: Limit the number or expensive thumbnails that can be processed by the scalers in parallel - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65691 (10Tisza Gergő) 3NEW p:3Unprio s:3normal a:3Tisza Gergő Certain files are very expensive to thumbnail (e.g. large TIFF files); receiving se... [18:50:03] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3GWToolset: Operational issues for very large TIFFs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65217#c3 (10Tisza Gergő) The consensus on the ops list was that https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/132112/ is not enough to safely resume uploads, and bug 52045 probably would not help much. The cur... [19:20:20] Huh [19:20:28] https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9c/Map_of_New-York_Bay_and_Harbor_and_the_environs_-_founded_upon_a_trigonometrical_survey_under_the_direction_of_F._R._Hassler%2C_superintendent_of_the_Survey_of_the_Coast_of_the_United_States%3B_NYPL1696369.tiff/lossy-page1-581px-thumbnail.tiff.jpg takes 34 seconds to give an error [19:20:32] It should be instant [19:21:01] maybe that's part of the file scaling situation [20:16:49] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3PagedTiffHandler: Need error message and/or better design for thumbnails broken due to megapixel limit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62306#c3 (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) (In reply to Gerrit Notification Bot from comment #2) > Change 135101 had a related patch set uploaded by Brian... [20:30:48] 3MediaWiki / 3File management: Special:ListFiles/ doesn't need to list the user in the file table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30627 (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) 5PAT>3RES/FIX [21:09:33] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3GWToolset: Operational issues for very large TIFFs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65217#c4 (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) I recently realized that we still download the source file, even if its above $wgMaxImageArea (e.g. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Map_of_New-York_Bay_and... [21:10:20] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3UploadWizard: Multiple selection not reliably working. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65696 (10darkweasel94) 3UNC p:3Unprio s:3normal a:3None I just tried to upload the following files (the sizes may be important) by selecting all of them in the same file browser in Firef... [21:15:18] 3MediaWiki / 3File management: upgradeRow() constantly triggered for invalid SVG and DjVu files - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41090 (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) 5PAT>3RES/FIX [21:29:43] fabriceflorin: MassMessage sent [21:29:48] Well, in queue to send [21:29:51] 577 wikis [21:30:36] Keegan: Wonderful, thank you. Can you post a link to the message and the wiki list on our release plan, for the record? [21:30:50] Sure [21:31:31] Splendid, thanks. Like this, if anyone says we didn’t reach out to their community, we can point them to those pages. [21:33:38] * marktraceur is sure the rationale is more like "It's good to reach out to the community" [21:33:50] Rather than merely being able to avoid criticism :) [21:36:25] marktraceur: Well you know, avoid criticism by doing good things to begin with :) [21:36:51] https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Multimedia/Media_Viewer/Release_Plan&diff=prev&oldid=1013419 [21:36:56] marktraceur: Yes :) [21:37:04] Good intentions! [21:37:31] * Keegan np Toad the Wet Sprocket, "Good Intentions" (1995) [21:38:17] Keegan: Muchas gracias! [21:39:18] bawolff: I'd much rather do the right thing 'cause it's the right thing! [21:40:06] marktraceur: You'll never be a master manipulator with that attitude ;) [21:40:25] I don't particularly *want* to be [21:40:34] Which is my point I suppose [21:40:42] Ayup [21:53:46] bawolff, with which option do you think I should go: http://fab.wmflabs.org/T352 [21:53:57] for now and in production [21:54:08] marktraceur: I have been encouraging Keegan to post a message to all wikis, because I think it’s important that we let people know in advance when we deploy software on their sites. I also think it’s a good idea that we post links to these announcements, so that we have a record that they were indeed made. There is nothing sinister with either of these actions. [21:54:23] Find whomever decided on the mime type and hit them over the head (seriously, what's wrong with model/) [21:54:47] fabriceflorin: I think you misunderstood marktraceur [21:55:02] rillke: I'd suggest extended the enum values to include chemical [21:55:14] He's just pointing out that we're contacting folks because it's the right thing to do, which we all agree :) [21:55:58] No, nothing sinister was inferred [21:56:02] Clarity, is all :) [21:56:26] Yes, we all agree on that point. That was always my primary motivation — avoiding criticism is a very secondary goal. [21:56:33] Sorry about that fabriceflorin, the wording was just a little odd to me [21:58:46] marktraceur: Glad we’re all on the same page now. Please assume good faith when I make comments like these … :) [21:59:48] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3UploadWizard: Multiple selection not reliably working. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65696#c1 (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) I chatted with darkweasel on irc. The summary version of it: It appears that the files were successfully uploaded to Special:UploadStash. Presumably with Chun... [22:00:26] fabriceflorin: Yeah, I can be a little paranoid about that sort of thing; the whole WMF-vs.-community thing scares me [22:03:33] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3UploadWizard: Multiple selection not reliably working. [probably chunked upload exploding] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65696 (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) [22:03:33] 3MediaWiki / 3Uploading: Chunked upload (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/59914 (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) [22:03:53] marktraceur: I understand. The relation betwen WMF and the community can be complex and ambiguous at times, which is why I tend to engage carefully. But I am committed to building a strong partnership with the community, and will continue to do so, even if at times I seem a bit cautious. [22:43:48] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3UploadWizard: UW hangs forever in beta labs, js error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65680 (10Tisza Gergő) 5PAT>3RES/FIX [23:32:10] I need to leave early, will work a bit over the weekend [23:32:32] * marktraceur waves [23:37:07] :)