[00:04:50] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10MarkTraceur: [C: 032] "Pretty! :)" [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/133893 (owner: 10Gilles)
[00:05:12] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Highlight chevron when the wrong direction is pressed [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/133893 (owner: 10Gilles)
[00:27:08] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS10) 10Gergő Tisza: Record sampling factor in EventLogging calls. [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134064 (owner: 10Gilles)
[00:27:10] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Record sampling factor in EventLogging calls. [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134064 (owner: 10Gilles)
[00:41:08] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS11) 10Gergő Tisza: Record sampling factor in EventLogging calls. [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134064 (owner: 10Gilles)
[00:41:25] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Gergő Tisza: "Rebased." [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134064 (owner: 10Gilles)
[00:42:00] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Record sampling factor in EventLogging calls. [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134064 (owner: 10Gilles)
[03:05:37] <comets>	 anyone here a commons admin?
[03:06:40] <marktraceur>	 comets: Mostly not
[03:07:01] <comets>	 bumme, a vandal on commons and no commons admin awake" :\
[03:07:04] <marktraceur>	 comets: I don't think you'll have more luck here than in -commons
[03:07:17] <comets>	 yeah they are all dead it seems.. haha
[03:07:28] <marktraceur>	 Seems unlikely
[03:10:30] <comets>	 btw, the flickr uplaod bug back to its original form..hehe
[06:28:39] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Gilles: [C: 04-1] "Latest Firefox returns false for isBrowserSupported()" (031 comment) [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134655 (owner: 10MarkTraceur)
[06:36:01] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS5) 10Gilles: jQuery 1.9 compatibility fixes [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/133706 
[06:39:20] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Gilles: "Fix the jslint errors, please? We've managed to make it pass as of two days ago. We should actually make it voting now." [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/133406 (owner: 10Gergő Tisza)
[07:11:57] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Gilles: "Since I can't get ahold of someone from QA right now, I'm going to try to figure it which test it's coming from with trial and error. Brac" [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134064 (owner: 10Gilles)
[07:15:59] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS12) 10Gilles: Record sampling factor in EventLogging calls. [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134064 
[07:16:53] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Record sampling factor in EventLogging calls. [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134064 (owner: 10Gilles)
[07:20:24] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS13) 10Gilles: Record sampling factor in EventLogging calls. [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134064 
[07:23:44] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Gilles: "Found the issue, it doesn't like schemas being defined as qunit dependencies. Which is probably because EventLogging isn't present on the " [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134064 (owner: 10Gilles)
[07:24:05] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS14) 10Gilles: Record sampling factor in EventLogging calls. [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134064 
[07:30:42] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS15) 10Gilles: Record sampling factor in EventLogging calls. [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134064 
[07:30:55] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Gilles: Record sampling factor in EventLogging calls. (031 comment) [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134064 (owner: 10Gilles)
[07:34:41] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Gilles: "This can be merged now, FYI. I've made sure that the new tables for the updated schema versions exist already." [analytics/multimedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134065 (owner: 10Gilles)
[08:12:01] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Marco: "We had quite a few more queued transcodes lately. I went through the always-penging ones three times to reset them. Some of them made it t" [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/133994 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61401) (owner: 10Brian Wolff)
[08:27:44] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Gilles: "recheck" [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/133406 (owner: 10Gergő Tisza)
[08:28:10] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Basic funnel data logging for UploadWizard [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/133406 (owner: 10Gergő Tisza)
[08:29:49] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Hashar: "recheck" [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/50953 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42554) (owner: 10Nischayn22)
[08:30:00] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Gilles: "recheck" [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/133706 (owner: 10Gilles)
[08:30:11] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Gilles: "recheck" [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134283 (owner: 10Gergő Tisza)
[08:30:19] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Gilles: "recheck" [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/84213 (owner: 10MarkTraceur)
[08:30:27] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Gilles: "recheck" [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/132792 (owner: 10MarkTraceur)
[08:30:31] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Add config message for allowed templates [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/132792 (owner: 10MarkTraceur)
[08:30:37] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Gilles: "recheck" [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/132397 (owner: 10MarkTraceur)
[08:30:40] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] [WIP] move funnel logging into its own component [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134283 (owner: 10Gergő Tisza)
[08:30:43] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Gilles: "recheck" [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/132785 (owner: 10MarkTraceur)
[08:30:51] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Gilles: "recheck" [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/132361 (owner: 10MarkTraceur)
[08:30:59] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Gilles: "recheck" [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/76356 (owner: 10Rasel160)
[08:31:02] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Add method for building a template call out of a TemplateData definition [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/132397 (owner: 10MarkTraceur)
[08:31:08] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Add method for auto-building forms from TemplateData [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/132785 (owner: 10MarkTraceur)
[08:31:17] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Adding module for fetching media templates, and tests [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/132361 (owner: 10MarkTraceur)
[08:31:26] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Gilles: "recheck" [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/86803 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53245) (owner: 10MarkTraceur)
[08:31:58] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Gilles: "recheck" [extensions/UploadWizard] (oojsify) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/123818 (owner: 10Robmoen)
[08:32:06] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Gilles: "recheck" [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/86804 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53245) (owner: 10MarkTraceur)
[08:32:14] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Gilles: "recheck" [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121308 (owner: 10MarkTraceur)
[08:32:17] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS13) 10Gergő Tisza: Basic funnel data logging for UploadWizard [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/133406 
[08:32:22] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Gilles: "recheck" [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/50760 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32606) (owner: 10Nischayn22)
[08:32:28] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Gilles: "recheck" [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22273 (owner: 10MarkTraceur)
[08:32:33] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] [WIP] Create OOjs-style base UI module [extensions/UploadWizard] (oojsify) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/123818 (owner: 10Robmoen)
[08:32:36] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Gilles: "recheck" [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/86810 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53245) (owner: 10MarkTraceur)
[08:32:39] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Add a redlink to dead duplicate file links [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/50760 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32606) (owner: 10Nischayn22)
[08:32:42] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] (bug 39852) Mitigate array magic that sometimes happens [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22273 (owner: 10MarkTraceur)
[08:32:45] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Gilles: "recheck" [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/84344 (owner: 10Rahul21)
[08:32:48] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Making all handlers return $.Promise objects [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/84344 (owner: 10Rahul21)
[08:32:52] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Add model base class, description model [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121308 (owner: 10MarkTraceur)
[08:32:54] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Gilles: "recheck" [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3808 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/9133) (owner: 10Drecodeam)
[08:32:57] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Basic funnel data logging for UploadWizard [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/133406 (owner: 10Gergő Tisza)
[08:33:00] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Gilles: "recheck" [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/50755 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40920) (owner: 10Nischayn22)
[08:33:03] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] licenseInput: Handle redirects for license templates [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/50755 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40920) (owner: 10Nischayn22)
[08:33:06] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Gilles: "recheck" [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/99178 (owner: 10MarkTraceur)
[08:33:09] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Gergő Tisza: "Nice! I did not realize it has been cleaned up already." [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/133406 (owner: 10Gergő Tisza)
[08:33:12] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Gilles: "recheck" [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/61289 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27995) (owner: 10Rasel160)
[08:33:15] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] (bug 27995) Added support for screen width upto 800px [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/61289 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27995) (owner: 10Rasel160)
[08:33:18] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Gilles: "recheck" [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/88124 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53245) (owner: 10MarkTraceur)
[08:33:21] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] jquery audit for mw.UploadWizard.js [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/88124 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53245) (owner: 10MarkTraceur)
[08:33:24] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Gilles: "recheck" [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/86814 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53245) (owner: 10MarkTraceur)
[08:33:27] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Gilles: "recheck" [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/86805 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53245) (owner: 10MarkTraceur)
[08:34:01] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS14) 10Gergő Tisza: Basic funnel data logging for UploadWizard [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/133406 
[08:34:04] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Gilles: "recheck" [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/68835 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39746) (owner: 10MarkTraceur)
[08:34:07] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Massive refactor [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/68835 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39746) (owner: 10MarkTraceur)
[08:34:10] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Gilles: "recheck" [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66561 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47561) (owner: 10Rasel160)
[08:34:13] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Will allow dynamic form generation in the details step. [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66561 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47561) (owner: 10Rasel160)
[08:34:16] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Gilles: "recheck" [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/68948 (owner: 10Bakert)
[08:34:19] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Mark required fields under "Release Rights" [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/68948 (owner: 10Bakert)
[08:34:26] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Gilles: "recheck" [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11004 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37462) (owner: 10MarkTraceur)
[08:34:33] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Gilles: "recheck" [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9549 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32247) (owner: 10MarkTraceur)
[08:34:36] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Add "remove file" in the details step [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9549 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32247) (owner: 10MarkTraceur)
[08:34:40] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Gilles: "recheck" [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9141 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37128) (owner: 10MarkTraceur)
[08:34:43] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Add a remove icon to categories, plus style changes [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9141 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37128) (owner: 10MarkTraceur)
[08:34:46] <comets>	 :D
[08:34:46] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Gilles: "recheck" [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/70925 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49989) (owner: 10MarkTraceur)
[08:34:49] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Add UWUI to the jsduck docs [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/70925 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49989) (owner: 10MarkTraceur)
[08:34:52] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Gilles: "recheck" [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/70919 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49989) (owner: 10MarkTraceur)
[08:34:55] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Clean up the jsduck docs after first two patches [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/70919 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49989) (owner: 10MarkTraceur)
[08:34:59] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Gilles: "recheck" [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47837 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43408) (owner: 10Nischayn22)
[08:35:01] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Add flickr templates to uploads from flickr. [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47837 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43408) (owner: 10Nischayn22)
[08:35:04] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Gilles: "recheck" [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46960 (owner: 10Rjain)
[08:35:07] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] location entry tooltip should link to geocoding page [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46960 (owner: 10Rjain)
[08:35:09] <comets>	 \o/
[08:35:13] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Gilles: "recheck" [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45951 (owner: 10Nischayn22)
[08:35:16] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] (bug 42979) Allow more than 50 flickr images. [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45951 (owner: 10Nischayn22)
[08:35:22] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Gilles: "recheck" [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49280 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39642) (owner: 10Nischayn22)
[08:35:25] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Catch error thrown by unparseable titles. [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49280 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39642) (owner: 10Nischayn22)
[08:35:28] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Gilles: "recheck" [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54897 (owner: 10Rjain)
[08:35:31] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] add support for more types of flickr URLs to upload wizard [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54897 (owner: 10Rjain)
[08:35:35] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Gilles: "recheck" [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22047 (owner: 10MarkTraceur)
[08:35:38] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] (bug 37302) Only fire startUploads once, after all files are ready [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22047 (owner: 10MarkTraceur)
[09:19:50] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Gergő Tisza: [C: 032] Record sampling factor in EventLogging calls. [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134064 (owner: 10Gilles)
[09:20:30] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Record sampling factor in EventLogging calls. [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134064 (owner: 10Gilles)
[09:22:48] <tgr>	 gi11es: can you take on https://wikimedia.mingle.thoughtworks.com/projects/multimedia/cards/633 today?
[09:23:09] <tgr>	 with all the excitement about jQuery bugs we forgot about it
[09:23:35] <tgr>	 and https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/129828/ needs to be updated before the deploy window tomorrow
[11:51:20] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Gilles: Record sampling factor in EventLogging calls. [extensions/MultimediaViewer] (wmf/1.24wmf5) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134804 
[11:52:00] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Record sampling factor in EventLogging calls. [extensions/MultimediaViewer] (wmf/1.24wmf5) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134804 (owner: 10Gilles)
[11:53:40] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Gilles: "QUnit tests are now broken on that branch..." [extensions/MultimediaViewer] (wmf/1.24wmf5) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134750 (owner: 10Gergő Tisza)
[12:19:05] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Gilles: Fix share/embed QUnit tests on 1.24wmf5 [extensions/MultimediaViewer] (wmf/1.24wmf5) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134807 
[12:21:46] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Gilles: Record sampling factor in EventLogging calls. [extensions/MultimediaViewer] (wmf/1.24wmf5) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134804 
[13:10:18] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki extensions / 3GWToolset: Unexplained GWT blocked user - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65620#c3 (10Gilles Dubuc) Thanks. That xml worked fine on my local install.  > the forms in advance of that point work correctly showing the GWT user rights are valid.  Are you getting the error on "Step 3: Ba...
[13:20:18] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki extensions / 3GWToolset: Unexplained GWT blocked user - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65620#c4 (10Fæ) Ah ha - The error was generated on Batch preview and I did add categories.  I can get a successful preview by not choosing categories or only using the simple cat_1 = "British Cartoon Prints Co...
[13:25:07] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS14) 10MarkAHershberger: Add "remove file" in the details step [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9549 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32247) (owner: 10MarkTraceur)
[13:25:11] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Add "remove file" in the details step [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9549 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32247) (owner: 10MarkTraceur)
[14:40:48] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki extensions / 3GWToolset: GWToolset silently wraps some fields into MediaWiki templates, which is problematic - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64060#c6 (10johanmmuller) This is an important bug: it is still impossible to use a simple author-field (without template). Hansmuller
[14:54:03] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki extensions / 3UploadWizard: Wizard does not block starting upload with non-descriptive filenames like DSC6200.JPG - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65624#c2 (10Steinsplitter) 5NEW>3RES/WON Pleas request this change onwiki: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_talk:Titleblacklist
[15:01:48] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki extensions / 3UploadWizard: Wizard does not block starting upload with non-descriptive filenames like DSC6200.JPG - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65624#c3 (10Steinsplitter) 5RES/WON>3REO ummn, my error.
[15:02:21] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki extensions / 3UploadWizard: Wizard does not block starting upload with non-descriptive filenames like DSC6200.JPG - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65624 (10Steinsplitter) 5REO>3NEW
[15:02:57] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Anomie: [C: 032] "Since Jenkins passed these unit tests, I assume they're good to go." [extensions/MultimediaViewer] (wmf/1.24wmf5) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134807 (owner: 10Gilles)
[15:04:06] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Fix share/embed QUnit tests on 1.24wmf5 [extensions/MultimediaViewer] (wmf/1.24wmf5) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134807 (owner: 10Gilles)
[15:10:49] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki extensions / 3UploadWizard: Wizard does not block starting upload with non-descriptive filenames like DSC6200.JPG - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65624#c4 (10florian.schmidt.welzow) Sorry, why reopened?
[15:13:04] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki extensions / 3UploadWizard: Wizard does not block starting upload with non-descriptive filenames like DSC6200.JPG - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65624#c5 (10Steinsplitter) because of misreading. Someone experienced with regex need to fix this in the titleblacklist.  Added an experienced user w...
[15:15:41] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki extensions / 3UploadWizard: Wizard does not block starting upload with non-descriptive filenames like DSC6200.JPG - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65624#c6 (10Florian) Ah ok, thanks for explanation :)
[15:23:14] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Anomie: [C: 032] "SWAT deploy." [extensions/MultimediaViewer] (wmf/1.24wmf5) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134804 (owner: 10Gilles)
[15:23:55] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Record sampling factor in EventLogging calls. [extensions/MultimediaViewer] (wmf/1.24wmf5) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134804 (owner: 10Gilles)
[15:41:38] <gi11es>	 marktraceur: it would be swell if you can review https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/134065/ today
[15:41:56] <marktraceur>	 'kay
[15:49:37] <marktraceur>	 gi11es: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65624 if you've time today
[15:51:05] <gi11es>	 marktraceur: I'm out of time for today. is that in mingle?
[15:52:39] <marktraceur>	 No, I can add it
[15:52:50] <marktraceur>	 (when I get in)
[15:58:48] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki / 3Uploading: Anonymous file uploads creates "Fatal exception of type UploadStashNotLoggedInException." - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47308 (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) p:5Normal>3Low
[16:07:25] <gi11es>	 it's fascinating how long people keep a tab open in commons before viewing an image with media viewer
[16:08:14] <gi11es>	 anomie pushed the change 15 minutes ago and I'm still seeing thumbnail new actions hits in the EventLogging DB with the old samplingFactor value
[16:08:32] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki / 3File management: Images are not showing when using ForeignDBRepo on MW 1.17 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31943#c6 (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) 5UNC>3RES/WOR Tested again on 1.24alpha. Works fine for me. Closing worksforme. It appears the issue described above is either some sort of confi...
[16:08:33] <gi11es>	 (slowly overtaken by the new value)
[16:11:48] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki / 3File management: Have separate file page for each (historical) version of a file - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35133 (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) p:5Normal>3Lowest
[16:12:13] * bawolff  is going through some old bugs to sort out which are important and which are stupid. Expect some bug spam

[16:14:18] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki / 3File management: Do not refresh file metadata for huge files on purge, and especially do not do it well holding database locks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43331 (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff))
[16:19:33] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki / 3File management: img_auth.php should have "Expires: 0", "Pragma: cache" for IE and SSL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25009#c3 (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) Umm, what is the error in question?
[16:21:32] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki / 3File management: Old deleted versions of a file not moved when a file is moved - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40737 (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) p:5Low>3Lowest
[16:27:03] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki / 3File management: Redirect file page of foreign files directly to commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44471#c5 (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) I'm taking this bug to just be about redirected users to commons image page. The copy over categories is now a separate bug.  It should perhaps be re-ev...
[16:36:18] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki / 3Uploading: Internal error on uploading file/multiple files - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27819#c9 (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) 1.17 was a long time ago. Is this still an issue to you?
[16:37:14] <comets>	 still and issue with multiple flick uploads bawolff :D
[16:37:20] <comets>	 flickr*
[16:37:41] <bawolff>	 comets: Is it that specific error
[16:37:58] <comets>	 its related to the current flickr upload bug..
[16:38:09] <bawolff>	 or I guess wikimedia is silly and doesn't show you the error so you wouldn't be able to say...
[16:38:59] <comets>	 same as bug 65406 
[16:40:18] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki / 3File management: User::leaveUserMessage() still in UploadFromUrlJob.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46592#c1 (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) (In reply to dan from comment #0) > method was removed in 1.18.0; imagine that it should be removed from the > UploadFromUrlJob or updated with a replace...
[16:40:29] <bawolff>	 comets: Thats a different type of error
[16:40:40] <bawolff>	 failing at different steps :)
[16:41:20] <comets>	 i'm not a nerd so wouldn't know :D
[16:45:12] <bawolff>	 :P
[16:45:19] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki / 3File management: Black background for CYMK thumb in non colour managed browsers, full-size image is fine - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47226#c3 (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) 5UNC>3RES/FIX (In reply to zillbugga from comment #2) > (In reply to comment #1) > > Is this the same as bug 24854?...
[16:45:35] <bawolff>	 comets: Don't worry, we've got enough failure here to go around ;)
[16:45:48] <comets>	 \o/
[16:46:04] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki extensions / 3GWToolset: Unexplained GWT blocked user - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65620#c5 (10Tisza Gergő) a:3Tisza Gergő At a minumum, this should be a normal error, not a fatal one.
[16:47:03] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki / 3File management: Gallery with non existent image should be red link like in thumb - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60617#c2 (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) p:5Low>3Lowest I'd want to see some sort of consultation with users (e.g. consensus on commons that the change is wanted) before making the...
[16:50:33] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki / 3File management: Thumbnail rendered with green cast (due to color profile?) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58294#c4 (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) 5UNC>3RES/INV I'm going to close this invalid. It appears that the file in question had incorrect colour information, so not really a bug with us.
[16:51:49] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki extensions / 3UploadWizard: Wizard does not block starting upload with non-descriptive filenames like DSC6200.JPG - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65624#c7 (10Tisza Gergő) a:3Tisza Gergő Given the api error code, TitleBacklist does catch the upload; the problem is with UploadWizard not predict...
[16:57:14] <marktraceur>	 Oh wait, sorry gi11es, I forgot who was on OOF
[16:57:24] <marktraceur>	 tgr: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65624 if *you* have time today
[16:58:19] <tgr>	 marktraceur: see bugspam above
[16:58:43] <tgr>	 eh
[16:58:58] <tgr>	 I always believe adding an assignee changes the state to assigned
[16:59:17] <marktraceur>	 Ah
[16:59:18] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki extensions / 3UploadWizard: Wizard does not block starting upload with non-descriptive filenames like DSC6200.JPG - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65624 (10Tisza Gergő) 5NEW>3ASS
[17:02:48] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki extensions / 3GWToolset: Unexplained GWT blocked user - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65620 (10Tisza Gergő) 5NEW>3ASS
[17:13:04] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki / 3File management: Allow way to choose thumbnail frame for video on its File: description page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/20647 (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) p:5Normal>3Low a:5Michael Dale>3None
[17:28:18] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki / 3File management: internal_api_error_DBQueryError when moving files - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37519#c10 (10Andre Klapper) (In reply to Jesús Martínez Novo (Ciencia Al Poder) from comment #8) > What needs to be done here is someone with access to WMF error logs to look > at that particul...
[17:58:03] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki / 3File management: Allow downloading multiple image files in a compressed archive - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/7866#c8 (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) p:5Normal>3Low (In reply to Nemo from comment #7) > Raising priority, this is a very requested feature which prompted the > creation of the pa...
[18:09:33] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki / 3File management: SVG thumbnail is cropped when displayed at natural size - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/9832#c11 (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) (In reply to Derk-Jan Hartman from comment #9) > Download http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Chlamydomonas.svg and > render with your Mediawiki + I...
[18:10:48] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki / 3File management: Render file links in the dupe files list like links from wikitext - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/14148 (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) p:5Normal>3Low
[18:11:18] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki / 3File management: Use interwiki prefix when giving list of foreign file duplicates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/14148 (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff))
[18:18:03] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki extensions / 3UploadWizard: Upload wizard drag and drop functionality is not obvious to users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45656 (10Jared Zimmerman (WMF))
[18:29:03] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki / 3File management: SVGHandler does not properly escape ImageMagick input - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25403#c11 (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) 5NEW>3RES/INV (In reply to David from comment #7) > (In reply to comment #6) > > Oh, sorry, I wasn't aware of the $wgSVGConverter variable. I'll add...
[18:29:18] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki / 3File management: OOM when rendering SVGs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25403 (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff))
[18:38:18] <marktraceur>	 tgr: Do you want to ride-along for the deployment today?
[18:38:18] <tgr>	 sure
[18:38:22] <marktraceur>	 Cool.
[18:39:03] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki / 3File management: No way to get an image description from a repository that is a closed wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25563 (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) p:5Normal>3Lowest
[18:39:56] <tgr>	 gi11es: sorry about breaking the wmf5 tests
[18:41:02] <tgr>	 I had five minutes to backport the text selection patch before the SWAT window and the tests conflicted, so I just left them out
[18:41:05] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10MarkTraceur: [C: 032] jQuery 1.9 compatibility fixes [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/133706 (owner: 10Gilles)
[18:41:13] <tgr>	 and then totally forgot about the issue :(
[18:41:15] <marktraceur>	 FINALLY those goddamn jasmine tests are dead
[18:41:37] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: jQuery 1.9 compatibility fixes [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/133706 (owner: 10Gilles)
[18:41:38] <tgr>	 marktraceur: shouldn't we have tried to port them?
[18:41:45] <tgr>	 or too old for that?
[18:42:13] <marktraceur>	 Pretty sure they're too old.
[18:42:17] <marktraceur>	 They're still in the history
[18:43:56] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10MarkTraceur: [C: 032] Take sampling factor into account [analytics/multimedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134065 (owner: 10Gilles)
[18:45:48] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki / 3File management: A commons image should have an edit tab going directly to the Commons page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26525#c18 (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) So the edit tabs have changed (Now with a "View on commons" tab), we should re-evaluate if there are still usability issues here.  A...
[18:50:45] <fabriceflorin>	 marktraceur: Hi Mark, will you be creating new configuration patches for the next Media Viewer releases, as proposed here? If so, can you add the Gerrit numbers to the ticket, so I can post them on our release plan and deployment calendar? Thanks! https://wikimedia.mingle.thoughtworks.com/projects/multimedia/cards/633
[18:51:03] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki / 3File management: Clean up file tables (image and oldimage) database schema ('curr' and 'old' strike back!) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26741 (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff))
[18:51:11] <marktraceur>	 They appear to already exist, quoth [[Deployments]] on wikitech
[18:51:44] <marktraceur>	 Thanks to gi11es for them :)
[18:54:33] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki / 3File management: A commons image should have an edit tab going directly to the Commons page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26525#c19 (10Nemo) (In reply to Bawolff (Brian Wolff) from comment #18) > So the edit tabs have changed (Now with a "View on commons" tab), we should > re-evaluate if t...
[18:54:48] <Keegan>	 Bleh. I mentally swapped 13:00 PDT with UTC for some reason and consequentially didn't think about that we're deploying Media Viewer while most of our target audience is in bed. 
[18:55:34] <marktraceur>	 Aw
[18:55:35] <Keegan>	 Pros/cons, no matter really, just throws off when we'll get feedback
[18:55:39] <marktraceur>	 Yeah
[18:56:16] <marktraceur>	 Keegan: Maybe you can get some sleep, then! :)
[18:56:47] <Keegan>	 Perhaps. What's a Circadian rhythm again?
[18:57:32] <marktraceur>	 Isn't that a Blink-182 song
[18:58:07] <Keegan>	 Probably.
[18:58:45] <marktraceur>	 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4pqqzFWedc <-- better illustration
[18:59:04] <Keegan>	 w00t
[18:59:22] <Keegan>	 I listened to 'Stunt" last week, actually
[19:01:21] <marktraceur>	 *nod*
[19:01:33] <marktraceur>	 Hm, maybe I should test the build script for the analytics repos
[19:01:45] <marktraceur>	 But ugh effort. /me moves on with life
[19:02:13] <marktraceur>	 I guess I should at least deploy the change...hm
[19:03:02] <marktraceur>	 tgr: https://wikimedia.mingle.thoughtworks.com/projects/multimedia/cards/535 did this get merged and deployed already?
[19:03:17] <marktraceur>	 I think "yes"
[19:03:23] <tgr>	 no
[19:03:27] <marktraceur>	 Oh hu
[19:03:28] <marktraceur>	 h
[19:03:32] <tgr>	 to my knowledge
[19:03:33] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki / 3File management: Create a webodf handler for mediawiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27198 (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) p:5Normal>3Low
[19:03:42] <marktraceur>	 Maybe you can do that after I've done the MMV config patches!
[19:04:08] <tgr>	 dan-nl had some concerns about it IIRC
[19:04:13] <marktraceur>	 Ah.
[19:05:02] <tgr>	 and we all agreed that it won'be enough to make large uploads safe, so this is not what is blocking Fae & co
[19:05:06] <tgr>	 so no rush
[19:05:11] <marktraceur>	 Righto
[19:05:31] <tgr>	 I think if the poolcounter thing this week works out, we can reconsider
[19:11:19] <bawolff>	 tgr: If you're not too busy - I'm trying to sort out old bugs, for bug 27523, do you mind seeing if https://hu.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Speci%C3%A1lis:V%C3%A1ltozat_t%C3%B6rl%C3%A9se&type=filearchive&target=F%C3%A1jl:G%C3%B6d%C3%B6ll%C5%91_c%C3%ADmere.png&ids=40776 still fatals for you?
[19:13:18] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki / 3File management: make file extension for external images configurable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28491 (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) p:5Normal>3Lowest
[19:16:33] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki / 3File management: Impossible to re-upload deleted image - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30588 (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff))
[19:16:50] <tgr>	 bawolff: no, works fine now
[19:17:04] <bawolff>	 tgr: ok, I'm going to close the bug then
[19:17:40] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10MarkTraceur: "> Error: Unknown dependency: schema.UploadWizardStep" [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/133406 (owner: 10Gergő Tisza)
[19:17:48] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki / 3File management: Error when trying to view deleted file: LocalRepo::newFileFromRow: invalid row - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27523#c5 (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) 5NEW>3RES/FIX [16:11]    <bawolff>    tgr: If you're not too busy - I'm trying to sort out old bugs, for bug 27523, do you mi...
[19:17:54] <fabriceflorin>	 marktraceur: What’s the ETA for deployment on Italian and Russian Wikipedias?
[19:18:04] <marktraceur>	 I start going at 13:00
[19:18:13] <marktraceur>	 So probably like 13:30 at latest
[19:18:21] <marktraceur>	 Config patches are quick-ish
[19:18:30] <fabriceflorin>	 marktraceur: Oh, cool. So it’s safe for me to get lunch, then.
[19:18:35] <marktraceur>	 Yeah, I should too
[19:19:47] <Keegan>	 fabriceflorin: refresh your inbox just one more time :)
[19:33:03] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki / 3File management: Special:ListFiles/<username > doesn't need to list the user in the file table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30627#c4 (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) (In reply to Brion Vibber from comment #1) > You should generally assume that the list UIs will become more dynamic in > the futur...
[19:33:41] <fabriceflorin>	 Keegan: Thanks for the tips. Will respond to  Evan-Amos next.
[19:33:49] <Keegan>	 Have a good lunch
[19:34:30] <fabriceflorin>	 Thanks, I’m spending it readin his fine prose :)
[19:38:07] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10MarkTraceur: [C: 04-1] Basic funnel data logging for UploadWizard [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/133406 (owner: 10Gergő Tisza)
[19:39:48] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki / 3File management: getimagesize on PHP before 5.3.3 doesn't work for image's that have more than 10 padding bytes between segments - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31588#c18 (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) 5NEW>3RES/FIX I'm going to call this fixed.  *It no longer affects WMF servers *Its an upst...
[19:45:33] <Keegan>	 fabriceflorin: I'm also looking to see if he's going to be at Wikiconference USA since he's based in NYC. If so I will definitely speak to him in person next week
[19:46:17] <fabriceflorin>	 Keegan: That would be great. Face-to-face are almost always more productive :)
[19:47:03] <Keegan>	 Oh I agree. Even if he's not going perhaps I can arrange something outside of the conference. 
[19:54:33] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki extensions / 3UploadWizard: Wizard does not block starting upload with non-descriptive filenames like DSC6200.JPG - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65624#c8 (10Rainer Rillke @commons.wikimedia) I was asked in IRC and somewhere else whether this bug is related to my fix of Bug 64883 -- the answer...
[20:11:27] <Keegan>	 ...and we're live on it.wp and ru.wp
[20:14:55] <marktraceur>	 Yup!
[20:15:01] <marktraceur>	 tgr helped :)
[20:15:20] * Keegan  claps

[20:16:04] <fabriceflorin>	 Keegan: Very cool. Will we be posting announcements on Italian and Russian Wikipedias to let people know and point them to key info like the help page? 
[20:16:11] <marktraceur>	 It turns out syncing config changes isn't complicated
[20:16:24] <marktraceur>	 Bright side: I now have a conference room I can hole up in for nearly two hours.
[20:16:49] <Keegan>	 fabriceflorin: Erica already did for Italian. I was looking into Russian but I'm not sure the value in making another thread.
[20:16:55] <fabriceflorin>	 marktraceur: Glad to hear it. Will you be preparing config changes in advance, so we can add them to the deployment calendar?
[20:16:56] <Keegan>	 Russians don't talk with each other as much
[20:17:26] <fabriceflorin>	 Keegan: You call. Just want to make sure people know where to go if they want to share feedback. 
[20:17:33] <marktraceur>	 fabriceflorin: Uhhh, the only ones left are...what, commons, enwiki, and dewiki?
[20:17:37] <marktraceur>	 Then we go live everywhere?
[20:17:58] <Keegan>	 enwiki dewiki
[20:18:01] <Keegan>	 We're on commons
[20:18:11] <fabriceflorin>	 Here’s the info about the next releases: https://wikimedia.mingle.thoughtworks.com/projects/multimedia/cards/633
[20:18:15] <marktraceur>	 Oh, right
[20:18:17] <marktraceur>	 It's all a blur
[20:18:46] <Keegan>	 It is
[20:18:56] <Keegan>	 Why oh why must the Russian community top-post
[20:18:58] * Keegan  sighs

[20:21:44] <fabriceflorin>	 Keegan: FYI, I’m not seeing Media Viewer on the Russian Wikipedia yet. I tried a couple browsers, no dice. Does it work for you? 
[20:21:54] <Keegan>	 Yes
[20:22:00] <marktraceur>	 We tested it here, it worked fine
[20:22:05] <fabriceflorin>	 OK, I’ll wait a few minutes then.
[20:22:52] <Keegan>	 Hard refresh!
[20:23:01] <marktraceur>	 Refreshing is hard
[20:23:29] <Keegan>	 :)
[20:25:01] <marktraceur>	 Wait
[20:25:12] <marktraceur>	 Should I push out the config change for our EL sampling rate?
[20:25:16] <marktraceur>	 I mean, while I'm here
[20:26:22] <marktraceur>	 NVM it apparently got pushed already
[20:30:09] <marktraceur>	 fabriceflorin: gi11es has written patches for every pilot release; releasing on big wikis we should wait to write until it's closer to us
[20:30:14] <marktraceur>	 Er releasing on all wikis*
[20:30:59] <marktraceur>	 I don't think config changes are really worth having cards for though
[20:31:40] <fabriceflorin>	 marktraceur : Cool. Do you know the patch numbers, so we can add them to the deployment calendar ?
[20:31:57] <marktraceur>	 fabriceflorin: They're in the card's comments
[20:32:24] <marktraceur>	 tgr: Did you test the focus bugfix that got SWATted?
[20:32:31] <marktraceur>	 https://wikimedia.mingle.thoughtworks.com/projects/multimedia/cards/638 could use accepting if you did
[20:32:50] <tgr>	 marktraceur: sure
[20:33:02] <fabriceflorin>	 marktraceur: Splendid, thanks. I’ll take it from there. I guess that’s one way the cards can help …
[20:33:42] <tgr>	 done already
[20:33:57] <marktraceur>	 fabriceflorin: Something like "deploy MMV to all wikis" instead of "write the config patch to deploy MMV to all wikis" would probably be more useful
[20:35:48] <tgr>	 marktraceur: same for the two backports in the CR column, I think they were SWATted this morning
[20:35:55] <tgr>	 but let me double-check
[20:36:55] <tgr>	 yup
[20:37:03] <marktraceur>	 {{done}}
[20:37:06] <marktraceur>	 Now CR is empty! Whoa.
[20:37:24] * marktraceur  actually claims a card instead of doing CR all day

[20:38:10] <marktraceur>	 Oh, right, good, there's one frontend card :P
[20:38:58] <tgr>	 is there?
[20:39:13] <tgr>	 well, the funnel cards are frontend
[20:39:17] <marktraceur>	 Yeah
[20:39:20] <marktraceur>	 That's what I'm looking at
[20:39:46] <marktraceur>	 tgr: Wait, is that actually ready for dev or is it "awaiting code review"?
[20:39:56] <tgr>	 which one?
[20:40:01] <marktraceur>	 609
[20:40:11] <tgr>	 awaiting fixing
[20:40:23] <tgr>	 since apparently the dependency is messed up
[20:40:29] <marktraceur>	 Oh
[20:40:31] <marktraceur>	 541
[20:40:33] <marktraceur>	 Dur
[20:40:45] <fabriceflorin>	 OK, added Gerrit tickets to deployment calendar: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Deployments#Next_month
[20:40:55] <tgr>	 oh
[20:40:57] <tgr>	 um
[20:40:58] <marktraceur>	 So I can't do 541 because it's blocked by 609
[20:41:28] <tgr>	 thats a limn card I think
[20:41:31] <marktraceur>	 fabriceflorin: You should use {{gerrit|<change number>}}
[20:41:44] <marktraceur>	 tgr: It is; but something that we maybe can't accomplish just yet
[20:42:07] <tgr>	 yeah
[20:42:07] <fabriceflorin>	 OK, thanks for the tip. 
[20:42:42] <tgr>	 let me look into #609, then we can maybe SWAT it today and 541 becomes unblocked
[20:43:45] <tgr>	 also it sort of depends on 305, but that should be a different card probably
[20:44:01] <tgr>	 since the server side handling of that will be really complex
[20:44:56] <marktraceur>	 Do we need to SWAT it?
[20:45:19] <marktraceur>	 I just don't see that much need...I mean, for planning purposes for UI changes, but we seem to be deciding that that's low priority anyway
[20:45:57] <marktraceur>	 But, and this might be a stupid question, do we want me to dive back into backend stuff or should we pull in another frontend card?
[20:46:22] <marktraceur>	 fabriceflorin, you might have thoughts ^^
[20:46:44] <tgr>	 well, can you work on 541 without any data?
[20:47:07] <marktraceur>	 I...guess?
[20:47:25] <marktraceur>	 But see also low priority
[20:47:28] <tgr>	 then OK, no SWAT needed
[20:48:46] <fabriceflorin>	 marktraceur: I think it’s important to get metrics data for Upload Wizard, but I defer to you guys on the order in which we should implement 609 and 541. As long as we get data in a week or so, that can be viewed by common mortals like me. :)
[20:49:08] <marktraceur>	 Mortals are allowed to query SQL too
[20:50:23] <fabriceflorin>	 Yes, but it’s a lot easier to look at a dashboard than SQL. The metrics data will help us make informed decision about more than just UI issues. And we will taking on UI improvements this summer, as discussed.
[20:50:28] <marktraceur>	 fabriceflorin: My interpretation of the meeting we had this morning was partly that UI changes to UW would mostly not happen - is that incorrect? The few ones we said will probably happen seemed to be mostly ones we already know about
[20:50:40] <marktraceur>	 Stuff not really requiring research, i.e.
[20:51:17] <fabriceflorin>	 marktraceur: That is not my understanding. We identified a number of UI improvements for Q1. Even if we only spend 1/3 of our time on UI, there is still a need to make progress on that front. 
[20:51:29] <marktraceur>	 Oh, hm - "more than just UI issues" - can you talk about that more?
[20:51:33] <marktraceur>	 Briefly maybe
[20:51:37] <tgr>	 marktraceur: are they, actually?
[20:51:47] <tgr>	 I thought SQL lives on stat1003
[20:52:12] <marktraceur>	 tgr: Heh, I meant mortals in the colloquial sense, not the cluster sense :0
[20:52:15] <marktraceur>	 :)*
[20:52:22] <marktraceur>	 I wouldn't give fabriceflorin mortals access (no offense fabriceflorin)
[20:52:28] <fabriceflorin>	 We want to understand where people’s upload experience fails, often due to technical issues. 
[20:52:52] <tgr>	 yes, I meant that too
[20:52:55] <fabriceflorin>	 In any case, getting metrics remains an important task, and I don’t share your view that it is no longer necessary.
[20:53:08] <marktraceur>	 That's instrumentation of frontend errors...which we don't really have scheduled
[20:53:18] <marktraceur>	 Anyway
[20:53:21] <marktraceur>	 My question stands
[20:53:29] <tgr>	 btw my understading was also that we don't work on UI
[20:53:33] <marktraceur>	 Should I work on the SQL for that, or a backend issue, or frontend stuff?
[20:53:44] <tgr>	 maybe some small issues like the progress bar
[20:53:53] <tgr>	 but certainly not 33% of the UW time
[20:54:59] <marktraceur>	 tgr: Or killing Puzzly, which...needs to happen
[20:55:14] <bawolff>	 oh no, not puzzly!
[20:55:34] <marktraceur>	 bawolff: DEATH IS COMING!!!!
[20:55:39] <marktraceur>	 (for puzzly)
[20:55:50] <tgr>	 I wonder about that
[20:55:51] <bawolff>	 May it rest in peace, along with my user table
[20:56:10] <marktraceur>	 bawolff: It will be replaced by sexy-lookin' informational graphics on the choose-files step
[20:56:15] <tgr>	 I have a feeling there is a big disconnect between the designers and the Commons community
[20:56:23] <marktraceur>	 And our step arrows will likely look less stupid if they're bigger. Maybe.
[20:56:58] <tgr>	 ie designers want the whole license selection flow to be very simple, the community doesn't exactly want that
[20:57:16] <bawolff>	 tgr: I think there's a big disconnect between the designers and all our communities
[20:57:19] <fabriceflorin>	 tgr: We identified a number of UI tasks that would make sense to start on in Q1: Show progess bar; clearer help, prompts, infographic; support drag and drop; start entering description while you load. We didn’t agree on specific percentages, and I don’t know how much time these will take, but that can be determined later.
[20:58:21] <tgr>	 start entering descriptions is not going to happen IMO
[20:58:22] <fabriceflorin>	 I guess I better write upload wizard meeting notes now, so there is a record of what we discussed, that we can refer to.
[20:58:32] <tgr>	 that would require rearchitecting significant parts of the current UW structure
[20:59:02] <tgr>	 progress bar and drag&drop are fairly trivial changes
[20:59:47] <fabriceflorin>	 tgr: I think we should at least investigate the ‘add metadata anytime’ option, and see how we can make it happen over time, as it is clearly needed from a user perspective. 
[21:00:04] <tgr>	 not going to happen in Q1, I mean
[21:00:50] <tgr>	 it requires significant refactoring of the codebase which we should not attempt without decent test coverage
[21:01:09] <fabriceflorin>	 tgr: OK, you’ve made your point. But please keep an open mind, so this doesn’t turn into an ‘us vs. them’ tension between designers and engineers. 
[21:01:38] <tgr>	 for MediaViewer that took about 2-3 months
[21:01:56] <tgr>	 while we worked on it full time
[21:02:03] <tgr>	 and it was not deployed live
[21:02:41] <tgr>	 and UW is an older and larger codebase
[21:03:18] <tgr>	 we can do small tweaks on the UI front, like adding help text all aroung the place, but any major change in Q1 is unrealistic IMO
[21:03:43] <fabriceflorin>	 Got it. It’s now tentatively slated as being spread over 2 quarters, with investigation starting in Q1 and the hard work being done in Q2.
[21:09:42] <robla>	 first one to see marktraceur tell him that I'm in R32  :-)
[21:14:28] <marktraceur>	 Ah!
[21:14:33] <marktraceur>	 robla: I had moved it but I can now
[21:27:10] <tgr>	 since when do we have skipped E2E tests?
[21:38:19] <marktraceur>	 fabriceflorin, I still wonder what I should be working on now - I'd happily start hacking on UW bugs if nothing else
[21:38:41] <marktraceur>	 Or TMH jQuery upgrade stuff
[21:41:30] <fabriceflorin>	 marktraceur: I’m looking at the current sprint, and not sure which Mingle ticket to point you towards now. There are tons of improvements to be made on Media Viewer in the current cycle, but we haven’t yet put them on the current sprint. 
[21:42:18] <marktraceur>	 I think MMV improvements aren't the answer here
[21:42:33] <marktraceur>	 We did a lot of MMV stuff in the past few weeks
[21:42:36] <fabriceflorin>	 Like the tooltips ticket we had in the last sprint: https://wikimedia.mingle.thoughtworks.com/projects/multimedia/cards/546
[21:42:40] <marktraceur>	 But if nothing else is available...
[21:43:05] <fabriceflorin>	 I guess just go and fix more Upload Wizard bugs. I haven’t prioritized them yet.
[21:43:41] <fabriceflorin>	 How about #637 UploadWizard unable to recover from warnings ?
[21:44:04] <fabriceflorin>	 I think we’re done with #615 Different images uploaded under the same title, right?
[21:45:27] <marktraceur>	 Hm, maybe
[21:45:36] <marktraceur>	 Yeah 615 was rillke's (thanks again rillke)
[21:46:18] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki extensions / 3UploadWizard: UploadWizard fails badly with jshint - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47161#c75 (10Tomasz W. Kozlowski) Amazing job everyone! Woo-hoo!
[21:47:35] <rillke>	 you are welcome
[21:49:33] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10MarkTraceur: Updated hashchange for jQuery 1.9 [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134954 
[22:24:08] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10MarkTraceur: jQuery 1.9 fixes [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134960 
[22:41:33] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki / 3File management: Upload API doesn't return metadata for some images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32192 (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) p:5Normal>3Low
[22:47:18] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki / 3File management: "images" directory to be renamed or migrated to "files" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33569 (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) p:5Normal>3Low
[22:54:48] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki / 3File management: New user pref: Image size limit for embedded images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36238#c3 (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) p:5Normal>3Lowest I'm honestly leaning towards not doing this. Are there any (non-theoretical) disabled users who experiance problems due to the lack of...
[23:00:48] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki / 3File management: Have image not be displayable until someone has verified copyright status - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40349 (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) p:5Normal>3Lowest
[23:04:18] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki / 3File management: Moving files results in broken descriptions and deleted images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40927#c17 (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) Aaron's https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/127460/ will probably help this situation.
[23:12:19] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Brian Wolff: Output ogg metadata on image description page. [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/108203 
[23:14:17] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki / 3File management: Moving files results in broken descriptions and deleted images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40927#c18 (10Rainer Rillke @commons.wikimedia) (In reply to Bawolff (Brian Wolff) from comment #17) +++ support, support, support  this has been something i was always in favour of...
[23:15:02] <bawolff>	 rillke: Somebodies excited :)
[23:16:18] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki / 3File management: Moving files results in broken descriptions and deleted images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40927#c19 (10Mark Holmquist) We're trying to get tests built into it first - I took a stab but was struggling to get it working right.