[00:01:18] (03CR) 10Gergő Tisza: [C: 032] "I'll note that $license will also end up in the global namespace. Probably not much harm in that though." [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/124283 (owner: 10Ori.livneh) [00:01:58] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Register ResourceLoader modules the conventional way [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/124283 (owner: 10Ori.livneh) [00:05:02] (03CR) 10Gergő Tisza: "Seems to break OOJS-UI dependency somehow." [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/124283 (owner: 10Ori.livneh) [00:13:49] (03CR) 10Gergő Tisza: "Unrelated, must have been another breaking change in OOJS-UI." [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/124283 (owner: 10Ori.livneh) [01:35:42] (03PS1) 10Gergő Tisza: Fix some OOJS-UI issues [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/124510 [02:09:55] (03CR) 10Aarcos: [C: 032] Fix some OOJS-UI issues [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/124510 (owner: 10Gergő Tisza) [02:10:26] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Fix some OOJS-UI issues [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/124510 (owner: 10Gergő Tisza) [02:14:59] (03PS4) 10Gergő Tisza: Register ResourceLoader modules the conventional way [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/124283 (owner: 10Ori.livneh) [02:19:17] (03CR) 10Gergő Tisza: [C: 032] Register ResourceLoader modules the conventional way [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/124283 (owner: 10Ori.livneh) [02:19:46] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Register ResourceLoader modules the conventional way [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/124283 (owner: 10Ori.livneh) [06:18:13] (03CR) 10Nikerabbit: "Another nice convention to use would be to have them in separate Resources.php file instead of having them in the middle of a huge file." [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/124283 (owner: 10Ori.livneh) [06:55:17] sneak preview: http://superdevoluy.dubuc.fr:5000/dashboards/mmv#geographical_network_performance-graphs-tab [08:51:38] (03CR) 10Gergő Tisza: "We did consider that but given that this file is loaded on every request we weren't sure of the performance implications." [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/124283 (owner: 10Ori.livneh) [09:37:49] (03PS5) 10Gilles: Add site/language conditions for feedback button [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/123917 (owner: 10Gergő Tisza) [09:38:36] (03CR) 10Gilles: [C: 032] Add site/language conditions for feedback button [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/123917 (owner: 10Gergő Tisza) [09:47:42] (03CR) 10Gilles: [C: 032] Add named timeouts to mw.mmv.ui.Element [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/124463 (owner: 10Gergő Tisza) [09:48:12] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Add named timeouts to mw.mmv.ui.Element [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/124463 (owner: 10Gergő Tisza) [09:51:12] (03CR) 10Gilles: [C: 032] Show tooltip when all sorts of conditions are met [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/124032 (owner: 10Gergő Tisza) [09:51:14] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Show tooltip when all sorts of conditions are met [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/124032 (owner: 10Gergő Tisza) [10:01:31] (03PS7) 10Gilles: Show tooltip when all sorts of conditions are met [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/124032 (owner: 10Gergő Tisza) [10:02:31] (03CR) 10Gilles: [C: 04-1] "The "Feedback tooltip" test fails in Firefox with:" [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/124032 (owner: 10Gergő Tisza) [10:02:43] (03CR) 10Gilles: [V: 04-1] Show tooltip when all sorts of conditions are met [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/124032 (owner: 10Gergő Tisza) [14:17:16] (03PS3) 10Gilles: Select html embed by default for logged-out users [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121064 [14:17:18] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Select html embed by default for logged-out users [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121064 (owner: 10Gilles) [14:17:20] (03CR) 10Gilles: Select html embed by default for logged-out users (031 comment) [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121064 (owner: 10Gilles) [14:27:30] (03PS4) 10Gilles: Select html embed by default for logged-out users [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121064 [14:28:00] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Select html embed by default for logged-out users [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121064 (owner: 10Gilles) [14:38:06] (03PS5) 10Gilles: Select html embed by default for logged-out users [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121064 [14:38:36] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Select html embed by default for logged-out users [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121064 (owner: 10Gilles) [14:40:08] (03PS6) 10Gilles: Select html embed by default for logged-out users [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121064 [14:40:21] (03CR) 10Gilles: Select html embed by default for logged-out users (031 comment) [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121064 (owner: 10Gilles) [14:40:40] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Select html embed by default for logged-out users [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121064 (owner: 10Gilles) [14:46:22] (03PS7) 10Gilles: Select html embed by default for logged-out users [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121064 [14:46:54] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Select html embed by default for logged-out users [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121064 (owner: 10Gilles) [15:01:54] (03PS8) 10Gilles: Select html embed by default for logged-out users [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121064 [15:01:56] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Select html embed by default for logged-out users [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121064 (owner: 10Gilles) [15:03:21] (03PS9) 10Gilles: Selects html embed by default for logged-out users [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121064 [15:04:02] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Selects html embed by default for logged-out users [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121064 (owner: 10Gilles) [15:06:03] (03CR) 10Gilles: "I'm not sure that the qunit failure is directly due to this change, looks like a timing problem with the select events fired in the attach" [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121064 (owner: 10Gilles) [15:18:46] (03CR) 10Gilles: "https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/124611" [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121064 (owner: 10Gilles) [16:28:45] (03PS1) 10Cmcmahon: Update Ruby gems to repair broken upload steps [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/124625 [16:29:48] (03CR) 10Zfilipin: [C: 032] Update Ruby gems to repair broken upload steps [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/124625 (owner: 10Cmcmahon) [16:29:58] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Update Ruby gems to repair broken upload steps [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/124625 (owner: 10Cmcmahon) [16:37:35] * marktraceur notes to self to poke tgr about https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=63594 [17:12:55] (03PS9) 10MarkTraceur: Add truncatable text field, use for some fields [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121309 [17:12:58] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Add truncatable text field, use for some fields [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121309 (owner: 10MarkTraceur) [17:13:11] (03CR) 10MarkTraceur: Add truncatable text field, use for some fields (031 comment) [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121309 (owner: 10MarkTraceur) [17:31:28] (03PS10) 10MarkTraceur: Add truncatable text field, use for some fields [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121309 [17:38:24] Morning, tgr, here's your Daily Interrupt: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=63594 came around via -commons [17:38:56] Also I'm getting weird errors to the effect of "this.setInlineStyles is not a function" and indeed it is undefined in StripeButtons instances, but unsure why [17:39:03] I will investigate that one more though [17:39:29] marktraceur: it is defined in Element [17:39:39] I know, figured [17:39:51] although i think it is called setInlineStyle so maybe a typo? [17:40:03] Hm, beta is working. Maybe this is my fault somehow. [17:41:24] I don't see how... [17:42:02] Happens on master locally [17:42:04] But not on beta [17:42:08] Weeeeeird. [17:42:18] Maybe cached on beta. [17:43:17] * marktraceur not even sure anymore [17:44:56] (03CR) 10Gergő Tisza: "That's weird. Does it really not exist in Firefox?" [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/124032 (owner: 10Gergő Tisza) [17:54:37] (03CR) 10Gergő Tisza: "Apparently it does exist but it is not writable, which confuses Sinon." [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/124032 (owner: 10Gergő Tisza) [18:08:30] Maybe this is an oojs issue. [18:10:53] marktraceur tgr_ : Hey guys, let me know when is a good time to test new features on beta. I quickly checked the ‘Use this file’, and it seems like the ‘Download’ button is fixed, but the ‘Embed’ wikitext is still ‘loading’. Also, can’t see the ‘Feedback’ button anymore. [18:11:42] fabriceflorin: the feedback button has to be enabled per-site [18:12:03] since it will be shown for 30 days only on each site [18:12:08] as i understand [18:12:17] should we enable it on beta enwiki? [18:13:21] tgr: Yes, I would enable it on beta for testing purposes, if it’s easy. It seemed to be working yesterday, so I was suprised to see it gone. I can clear out test data when we’re done testing. [18:21:07] marktraceur: could you review a config change? [18:21:09] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/124036/ [18:21:18] I could [18:21:25] tgr: We have to deploy it when we merge it though [18:22:03] it is compatible both ways [18:22:24] Point being I cannot deploy it now [18:22:30] It should go out in the SWAT probably [18:22:52] it affects beta immediately, right? [18:23:00] Uhhh...should be, yeah [18:24:03] in production it won't have any effect anyway [18:24:12] Doesn't matter [18:24:32] do the config changes go out with the thursday deploy or do they have to be done manually anyway? [18:24:56] If you merge a change to config, you should deploy it right away [18:25:00] At least that's my understanding [18:25:04] greg-g: ^^ clarity? [18:25:34] yes [18:25:47] Ta [18:25:59] it's not enforced mechanically, but sociallya nd people will poke you/complain if you don't deploy puppet/other config changes immediately after merge [18:26:15] And yeah, I merged a labs-only change once upon a time and bd808|deploy whined at me later IRIC [18:26:18] IIRC* [18:26:19] see also: "[Engineering] People sometimes merge wmfconfig/puppet changes without deploying" [18:26:59] ack [18:27:17] But I've added it to SWAT [18:27:27] thanks [18:27:43] fabriceflorin: The config change should go out to beta 'round about 16:00 local time [18:28:45] marktraceur: Thanks! Is this for the Feedback button? [18:28:50] Yeah [18:28:54] Cool. [18:33:34] (03PS8) 10Gergő Tisza: Show tooltip when all sorts of conditions are met [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/124032 [18:37:24] (03CR) 10Pginer: "The color used is the standard dark-gray according to https://trello.com/c/IRqbu8p4/15-color-swatches" [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/123609 (owner: 10Pginer) [18:45:46] Do none of these patches work [18:45:48] At all [18:45:49] Like [18:45:58] I have not found a single commit so far that actually works [18:46:33] Aha [18:46:36] 042353c74716dc19ccc1567e1c34caa41353e554 is the last good commit [18:46:42] From last Tuesday [18:47:14] tgr: 052fd5d3f1d7f7df636a1fe4e2ddeb19ad8f0514 is broken, 2fc097fa05644bda36db0092d5d8591b98dfabb5 is broken in a more different way [18:47:29] marktraceur: if this is about the initializeSettings issue, it should be fixed in master [18:47:39] I don't think it is [18:48:20] what is the error? [18:48:39] Let me reproduce it again [18:49:01] ...weird, now it's not happening [18:49:05] Maybe there was a cache issue [18:49:39] Ctrl-F5 Ctrl-F5 Ctrl-F5 Ctrl-F5 Ctrl-F5 Ctrl-F5 Ctrl-F5 Ctrl-F5 Ctrl-F5 Ctrl-F5 [18:49:57] ...gorram it [18:50:40] OK for no reason it is working [19:58:29] (03PS1) 10Gergő Tisza: Make categories behave [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/124665 [20:58:44] Hm. [21:00:40] So...it'll work, but it seems silly to link to http://localhost/wiki/index.php/File:This_is_a_really_really_really_really_really_really_really_really_really_really_really_really_really_really_really_long_name.jpg?debug=true#mediaviewer/File:This is a really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really long name.jpg [21:00:48] When like...it should just be #mediaviewer [21:30:49] (03PS1) 10MarkTraceur: Open MMV on hash change on file pages, add link [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/124750 [21:31:35] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Open MMV on hash change on file pages, add link [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/124750 (owner: 10MarkTraceur) [21:48:13] (03PS2) 10MarkTraceur: Open MMV on hash change on file pages, add link [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/124750 [22:24:03] marktraceur: i don't think it is worth maintaining two different URL schemes because of that [22:24:46] 'kay [22:24:49] Well, both work [22:25:13] all browsers understand URLs up to at least 2048 chars, and file names are limited to 1000 or so, so there should be no issues with it [22:26:39] file names are limitted to 255 characters [22:26:48] err, i mean bytes not characters [22:27:13] ok, 768, not 1000 [22:32:59] (03PS3) 10MarkTraceur: Open MMV on hash change on file pages, add link [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/124750 [22:47:55] btw, all this discussion about multimedia viewer made me re-test it just now. I must say I really like how the "this file used on other sites" part of the dialog was done [22:48:14] It looks much more slick then the ugly list that's on the image page [22:49:12] ++ [22:50:56] bawolff: Glad you like the new ‘file usage’ section of the metadata panel. We tried to improve the overall look and feel to make it easy to find the info without putting it all in your face at once, and I think we succeeded in that regard. What do you think of the rest of the UI? [22:53:11] I think regulars will complain that its not immediately obvious how to get to the image page (It took me a bit of hunting to find where the "learn more on commons link is") but they'll get over that fairly quickly, probably [22:54:24] possibly already reported, but in the embed dialog, the image caption should be trim()'d [22:56:31] On some images, the "description" section doesn't extend very far down, but the right column does, which looks a tiny bit unbalanced, but not sure if there's much to do about that [22:57:55] to be nitpicky, I'd like to see the "share this file" dialog have an x button in addition to being closable by clicking on the link a second time [22:58:15] (03PS1) 10Gergő Tisza: Make Commons link more prominent [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/124769 [22:59:15] bawolff: Yeah, to address your first concern, we added a new button linking to the file page for logged in users — it’s above the fold, on the lower right corner on beta: http://en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Lightbox_demo [23:00:21] bawolff: Can you clarify what you mean by trimming the image caption in the Embed panel? [23:00:49] Ideally the copyright license link would link to https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Gori_military_base.jpg#Licensing instead of just the file page ( https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Gori_military_base.jpg ), but then there's the whole issue of that id varrying on user language [23:02:57] fabriceflorin: I mean like the 2 newlines in the wikicode - http://imgbin.org/images/17049.png [23:03:03] bawolff: I agree with you about the description area being a bit too short, and would love to see us extend that if possible. Will file that as a possible enhancement. [23:03:17] hi folks...is there a known issue with the metadata panel display on commons? [23:03:43] robla: It was just being talked about in #wikimedia-dev [23:04:10] bawolff: thx! [23:04:29] fabriceflorin: trim() is a php function that gets rid of whitespace at the start and end of string [23:04:51] So its a kind of jargony way of saying get rid of newlines (sorry if it was unclear) [23:06:07] Hi Robla: Thanks for the heads up. I didn’t know about this issue, but I can confirm that the metadata panel does not show up on Commons anymore, not sure why: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Lightbox_demo# [23:06:52] marktraceur, tgr, any ideas why the metadata panel would no longer work on Commons, as reported above? [23:07:00] (03PS1) 10Aarcos: Fix issues with size menus after oojs-ui update [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/124772 [23:07:08] [20:39] marktraceur: btw, known issue at commons? "ncaught TypeError: Object # has no method 'intializeSelection' on mmv.ui.reuse.download.js:191" [23:07:16] [20:39] bawolff: I'm guessing they deployed their breaking change and we haven't dealt with it yet [23:07:31] [20:40] Agh. [23:07:32] [20:41] OK, bawolff, I'll sort that out next I guess [23:07:53] bawolff: thanks for passing this on ... [23:08:28] It looks like visual editor broke itself too https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=63554 [23:08:50] silly ol' visual editor! :-) [23:09:14] bawolff: We discussed adding an ‘x’ button to the ‘share’ box, but Pau thought it should be enough to click outside the box to close it, and his usability tests seem to support his case: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Multimedia/Media_Viewer/Usability_testing [23:10:18] My immediate thought to close it was to look for an x, but it was pretty obvious how to close it in other ways too [23:11:32] bawolff: Good point about linking the license label to https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Gori_military_base.jpg#Licensing instead of just the file page — we’ve been holding off on that because we’ve been hoping to go straight to Creative Commons as proposed here: https://wikimedia.mingle.thoughtworks.com/projects/multimedia/cards/221 [23:12:11] Hmm, that would be good to [23:13:03] bawolff: Thanks for explaining what you mean by ‘trim’ — getting rid of newlines makes sense to me. Will file a bug. [23:13:43] Tgr, marktraceur: one thought re: #mediaviewer plain links. it might be nice to have #mediaviewer link to the first image on the page, regardless of what it page its on. [23:13:59] Hm. [23:14:05] that would avoid the need for doing something special on File: pages [23:14:22] Guess so [23:14:36] robla: wouldn’t that approach make it impossible to share a link to a specific file in Media Viewer? [23:14:50] fabriceflorin: No, in addition to specific file links [23:14:57] yup [23:15:03] what mark said [23:15:09] #mediaviewer -> first file; #mediaviewer/ -> whatever file is [23:15:09] Oh, OK, that sounds like a nice touch, then. [23:15:25] Want me to add a card for that suggestion? [23:15:27] #mediaviewer// -> agh too complicated [23:15:33] fabriceflorin: Sure [23:15:54] OK, will do. Bawolff gave me a bunch of nice suggestions as well. [23:16:00] reading back... [23:16:17] The question now, is how many of these we can do in this release, but at least we can have them on file ... [23:16:22] (for the record, not a blocker) :-) [23:16:39] bawolff: the file usage looks nice but is kind of useless imo, it just shows the first three uses, and there is no space to use much more [23:17:11] robla: I hear you :) [23:17:22] re learn more on commons link, it will be more prominent [23:17:46] part of that can be seen on beta already if you are logged in, part of it is still under review [23:18:14] I just saw it on beta, looks nice! [23:18:26] tgr: I kind of like how it avoids the, And here is the list for en.wikipedia.org - one item on list, and here is the list for the next wiki - one item, and so on [23:18:35] you can see the mockup here: https://dumpling-attachments-storage.s3.amazonaws.com/wikimedia/attachments/4843b2b43514ee5ca6e5847e97b77612/10925/Design_for_more_details_access_to_Commons.png?AWSAccessKeyId=ASIAIJVSW4SUHGX2RGWQ&Expires=1397000895&Signature=l%2F0wk0hl9v82UVGpHmUmXrjfRzM%3D&response-content-type=image%2Fpng&x-amz-security-token=AQoDYXdzEK7%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2FwEa0APXTYWp3ql95eQ3JqO9tGUAifYpcDgwsZslMar%2BYypriQL39lHElqLhYhi2rbM [23:18:42] woa [23:18:49] mingle image urls are scary [23:19:04] yeah, that url doesn't work for me [23:19:11] Hahaha [23:19:21] The provided token is malformed or otherwise invalid. [23:19:28] [[Category:Reasons to switch to Phabricator]] [23:19:31] https://wikimedia.mingle.thoughtworks.com/projects/multimedia/cards/270 [23:21:19] yeah, a border would emphasize it [23:23:00] There's a plan at some point in the (near) future to enable media viewer by default, right? [23:23:20] bawolff: On Thursday for mw.org, then a week later on some pilot sites [23:24:45] ok, I was goigng to mention that in my response on https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump#Changes_to_file_description_pages_for_commons_files_on_local_wikis since media viewer shows categories [23:24:52] robla: re breakage on Commons, i think a new branch was today in the process of dealing with the scap issues, and that caught everyone by surprise [23:25:42] there was a change in OOJS-UI, but it was not included in the wmf21 branch last thursday unless i really misread something [23:26:09] (03PS1) 10Mwalker: Fix some OOJS-UI issues [extensions/MultimediaViewer] (wmf/1.23wmf21) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/124776 [23:26:12] The wmf21 branch didn't exist before last Thursday [23:26:19] (03CR) 10Mwalker: [C: 032] Fix some OOJS-UI issues [extensions/MultimediaViewer] (wmf/1.23wmf21) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/124776 (owner: 10Mwalker) [23:26:41] But I see the point that you didn't get your normal Thurs-Tue testing on wm.o [23:26:50] mw.o [23:26:56] #wikipmediawiki [23:27:03] wtfomg.gov [23:27:18] bd808: there is an oojs-ui change that was merged to core yesterday, i think, and now it is live on Commons [23:27:20] wtfomgbbq.sexy [23:27:41] Hmmm… the backports that Roan did last night? [23:27:46] maybe there was a swat or something, i don't know [23:28:24] Yup. swat last night: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/124483/ [23:28:46] https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Deployment#Week_of_April_7th [23:29:43] lol, when did people decide to call it the "SWAT" team [23:30:08] https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=SWAT_deploys#Humour [23:30:43] We're all about invoking paramilitary symbolism here [23:30:56] See also NERF fights [23:31:44] bd808: Using a strong authoritarian type face ;) [23:32:50] bawolff: We're looking into switching the header font to the one they used for Stalin's posters [23:33:03] * bd808 doesn't want to hear about font weights/foundries/licenses/kerning/hinting [23:33:59] Fights over fonts are what made mode commercial sites from '97 to '01 use images for text content [23:34:45] HP required that all titles on their web properties be rendered in their official corporate font face [23:35:11] I have to make soooo many stupid gifs of "HP LaserJet N" [23:35:23] *had [23:36:08] bawolff: if there is a URL in the license template, it should be used in the embed template [23:36:16] Of course I ended up writing a perl script to do it and still changed them a ton for each change order [23:36:24] So net win I guess [23:36:35] omg that sounds horrible [23:37:13] When print designers first found the web it was chaos [23:38:32] Folks who have invested their careers in hand kerning, pantone colors and full bleed layout didn't that the *content* was actually what was important [23:40:23] bawolff: do you have a link for captions that need trimming? [23:40:35] in theory we should be doing that already [23:41:15] tgr: It was on enwikipedia, so could be just fixed in a newer version ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupation_of_Gori#mediaviewer/File:Gori military base.jpg ) [23:41:43] tgr: screenie at http://imgbin.org/images/17049.png [23:44:33] bawolff: yeah, that should be fixed on thursday [23:52:21] (03CR) 10Gergő Tisza: "We are probably using the menu widgets wrong, this seems way too complex for a simple dropdown menu..." (031 comment) [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/124772 (owner: 10Aarcos) [23:56:11] fabriceflorin: Just fyi, I mentioned media viewer going to be turned on by default on small wikis sometime soonish in my post at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump#Changes_to_file_description_pages_for_commons_files_on_local_wikis [23:58:05] bawolff: Thanks for the heads up! I plan to have a more comrehensive post about Media Viewer on Commons tomorrow morning, followed by a similar post on Enwiki and Frwiki later that day. [23:58:54] Ok. Is it going to be enabled on enwiki too? (My post was going off an older email on multimedia list that said "small" wikis)