[00:08:16] rdwrer: Check your email about proposed image load metrics. I proposed an overall metric to focus on, as well as recommended priorities to focus on. I also updated all the related tickets, including card149, card364 , card292 and card198 . Lastly, we have a new Metrics Wall, a handy team favorite where we can find all these metrics tickets: [00:08:17] https://wikimedia.mingle.thoughtworks.com/projects/multimedia/cards?favorite_id=11060&view=Metrics+Wall [00:09:41] What's the correct incantation to invoke a Mingle ticket on IRC? !card149 ? card#149 ? card=149 ? [00:09:50] !c 149 [00:09:51] https://mingle.corp.wikimedia.org/projects/multimedia/cards/149 [00:09:58] It has to be the first thing on the line [00:10:13] But just saying the words "card 149" is fine [00:10:40] We are just as capable as wm-bot3 of replacing the last three characters in any card URL with the one you mention [00:21:13] rdwrer: Thanks! I had forgotten the secret code :) !c 149 works for me ... [00:21:30] !c 149 [00:21:31] https://mingle.corp.wikimedia.org/projects/multimedia/cards/149 [00:21:44] Oh, I see, it needs to be at the beginning of a line ... [00:21:50] card 149 [00:22:30] I guess that's the one where humans need to add that to the URL manually ... [00:22:57] 2014-03-17 - 17:09:58 <+rdwrer> It has to be the first thing on the line [00:23:00] Yes [00:24:07] Got it. I know you guys can easily figure it out, but this could come in handy for future IRC chats. As a rule of thumb, I try to make things easy to click on the links, for people who are not in the know ... [00:25:22] Not sure I understand what you mean [00:29:19] rdwrer: You were saying I can just type card 149, because you guys can figure it out. But I am glad to know how to type !c 149, because it lets me give a link to folks who don't know where to find these cards. [00:30:25] Is there a cheat sheet that shows simple IRC tricks I could learn? Like, how do you let people know you're 'thinking' as opposed to 'speaking'? [00:34:15] fabriceflorin: What do you mean, thinking as opposed to speaking? [00:35:21] Sometimes, people use a special character in front of their words, to indicate they are thinking. Bawolff does that often. But I forget which character: a bullet? [00:35:27] Oh. [00:35:34] fabriceflorin: You mean actions like this: [00:35:38] * rdwrer does something [00:35:47] Yeah, that's it. [00:35:50] I used "/me does something" to accomplish that. [00:36:01] * fabriceflorin thinks out loud [00:36:09] Got it, thanks. [00:36:11] Yup [00:36:24] Also, how do you change your name to be Fabrice_away? [00:50:02] fabriceflorin: A) I don't believe that's a good solution for being away B) /nick fabrice_away [00:50:16] fabriceflorin: The protocol would more happily support /away [00:50:21] e.g. /away commute [00:50:25] Or /away sleep [00:50:27] Or whatever [00:51:26] Thanks for the tip. I wasn't sure what to do to indicate that I'm away, so up to now I haven't done anything. But I will start using the tip you just gave me. It does sound better to me than changing your name, which seems weird to me. [00:51:55] But how do I undo that flag? [00:54:05] rdwrer: Is there a way to not be 'away' anymore? [00:54:29] fabriceflorin: Either /away or /back [00:54:33] Depends on your client [00:55:18] Cool. /away did the trick for me. Thanks so much for these tips! I won't bug you anymore, have learned enough for the day :) [15:57:53] tgr: Do you mean reposting just the link to the wiki page, or also my replies to Fabrice and Pau? [16:01:27] gi11es: your replies too, if you have no problem with it [16:01:59] so, is the best thing to reply and add the list at this stage? Or to recompile a message manually? [16:02:24] i think they contain a lot of good insight, and it would be a shame to limit them to the five people on the thread [16:03:59] right, I'm just wondering what's the most effective way to include the list after the fact [16:35:14] what it looks like on our end: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ugpxur62vz6cied/Screenshot%202014-03-18%2017.34.56.png [18:33:06] gi11es: "I only just noticed" faaaaantastic [18:33:30] Shouldn't do any harm [18:33:35] Just gotta get the config change out soon [18:34:32] greg-g: So apparently https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/117376 needs to go out before Thursday [18:34:46] Else Thursday will see Media Viewer turned on by default on mw.org [18:35:30] I can deploy today during the LD I guess [18:35:33] heh [18:35:56] Oh, no more LD? [18:36:09] SWAT! [18:36:16] More different I guess [18:36:29] how's this being done now? [18:36:43] Right now it's just always in beta if BF is around, else it's always on [18:37:10] The patch checks for wgMediaViewerInBeta and wgMediaviewerEnabledForLoggedInUsers and if both are false it assumes everyone wants to see the viewer [18:37:50] I guess I can stick in the patch for the SWAt [18:37:58] But it ruins the fun of deploying for me [18:38:11] Maybe I should just be in the SWAT [18:39:20] But...LDs. [18:39:52] LD is dead. The SWAT team shot it in the head. [18:40:04] might be easier to just add a line to force wgMediaViewerInBeta to be always true for now [18:40:07] God damn cowboys [18:40:20] tgr: Well that's what the config change does basically [18:40:41] in MMV i mean [18:40:54] gi11es: Did you see my email begging to offload GSOC candidates for commons file format projects? [18:40:58] *shrug* not sure it's easier, it just means less work [18:41:02] We'd have to revert it later [18:41:06] So..."less" [18:41:13] In reality "more distributed" [18:41:52] Instead I will add this patch to the SWAT deploy window today and add appropriate amounts of humour to the SWAT page to make up for the lost LD humour. [18:50:18] greg-g: Hopefully https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=SWAT_deploys&diff=105228&oldid=104429 suffices [21:16:56] lol [21:17:05] Merged it into wmf17 for no good reason [21:17:18] (03PS1) 10MarkTraceur: Add feature flags for Media Viewer [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/119396 [21:17:37] (03CR) 10MarkTraceur: "I mistook the deployment branch for master. My bad!" [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/119396 (owner: 10MarkTraceur) [21:18:00] (03PS2) 10MarkTraceur: Add feature flags for Media Viewer [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/119396 [21:18:29] (03PS1) 10MarkTraceur: Revert "Add feature flags for Media Viewer" in wmf17 [extensions/MultimediaViewer] (wmf/1.23wmf17) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/119397 [21:18:31] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Revert "Add feature flags for Media Viewer" in wmf17 [extensions/MultimediaViewer] (wmf/1.23wmf17) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/119397 (owner: 10MarkTraceur) [22:13:47] (03PS34) 10Gergő Tisza: Add share and embed panel, replace reuse [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/117473 [22:15:02] (03CR) 10Gergő Tisza: "Fix embed panel layout, make textarea full width, enlarge panel a bit so there is no scrollbar on dropdown. (Which results in a lot of emp" [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/117473 (owner: 10Gergő Tisza) [23:03:04] (03PS5) 10MarkTraceur: Add client-side flag for disabling viewer [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/118774 [23:03:10] Right, that's "done" [23:34:19] FYI all, our config change is going out [23:34:25] It should be basically nil effect for now [23:34:28] Since the code isn't going out [23:58:50] (03CR) 10Gergő Tisza: Add client-side flag for disabling viewer (032 comments) [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/118774 (owner: 10MarkTraceur)