[15:16:57] <mdholloway|afk>	 sorry to bail on meetings, someone showed up to do some work, back shortly...
[15:17:31] <dbrant>	 nw
[15:25:23] <Volker_E>	 jdlrobson: shouldn't mobile minimum support Grade A orient on RL minimum, which would mean Android 4.1+ instead of 4?
[15:25:27] <Volker_E>	 jdlrobson: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Compatibility#Browser_support_matrix
[15:42:59] <mdholloway>	 working from home 👍
[16:16:27] <jdlrobson>	 hey Volker_E probably
[16:16:51] <jdlrobson>	 mobile table was generated in march  and from different source to desktop but we should probably be consistent
[16:20:40] <jdlrobson>	 hmmm.. it says android 2 is grade b, which the change to desktop made that grade c which breaks out definition of what's grade b/c :).
[16:30:10] <mdholloway>	 dbrant|brb: for T167460, do you think it's acceptable for the top and bottom gradients to remain when the error view is showing, or should they be removed?
[16:30:10] <stashbot>	 T167460: Gallery offline message is full screen - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T167460
[16:30:18] <mdholloway>	 https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/qqH4WYLc/Screenshot_20170616-121806.png
[16:41:43] <bearND>	 mdholloway: my take on this is that the gradients don't belong there when the error message is shown. Just my $0.02.
[16:41:59] <mdholloway>	 bearND: thanks :)  i agree it looks a bit odd
[16:54:52] <mdholloway>	 bearND: the back arrow is a bit tough to see without it, though...
[16:55:00] <mdholloway>	 https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/mRUDvIfI/Screenshot_20170616-125407.png
[16:55:05] <bearND>	 oops
[16:57:25] <bearND>	 mdholloway: i guess if it's too much trouble then it's not the end of the world
[16:57:56] <mdholloway>	 bearND: yeah.  i'm not really sure which is better.  maybe the gradients should just be lightened, or the error view darkened, or something.
[16:58:05] <mdholloway>	 the gradients do look out of place
[17:02:13] <mdholloway>	 bearND: that's better: 
[17:02:19] <mdholloway>	 https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/j2TG33UX/Screenshot_20170616-130137.png
[17:02:32] <bearND>	 👍
[17:02:38] <bearND>	 gotta go
[17:02:52] <mdholloway>	 :)
[17:03:11] <mdholloway>	 bearND|afk: o/ thanks for the design feedback!
[17:07:12] <dbrant>	 mdholloway: whichever is easier ;)  I think they both look acceptable.
[17:30:30] <reets_afk>	 hi mdholloway – just posted on the ticket that we should use the dark background since this is the gallery view
[17:30:44] <mdholloway>	 reets_afk: saw.  sounds good, will update!
[17:31:24] <reets_afk>	 kewl kewl, thanks and enjoy the wkend-o! going afk for real...
[18:08:51] <mdholloway>	 maxbinder: it's not so bad once you get used to it! ;)
[18:09:57] <mdholloway>	 i'm not sure exactly what they consider "external", actually... looking for a statement of that somewhere
[18:23:37] <maxbinder>	 mdholloway: looks like "external" does not refer to @wikimedia or not, as I am asking to approve emails from teammates. It does offer a whitelisting option, however.
[19:23:22] <jdlrobson>	 nzr: haha why not :)