[06:05:33] an app to change your android locale (language / country / variant) quickly. http://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdid=com.sweetiepiggy.everylocale [10:57:51] yuvipanda: greetings! [14:13:16] notnarayan: welcome! [14:13:48] yuvipanda: yes sir. what are you working on? [14:15:14] notnarayan: library work for commons upload app :) [17:32:12] wifi win [17:32:59] hi, there is no random article function in the android app? [17:33:13] phil: correct [17:33:28] we have the code but the menu was maxed out [17:35:02] tfinc, ok, thanks. "maxed out"? [17:35:36] in what sense? [17:37:11] when we update to ICS-style we can make the menu as big as we like :) [17:39:13] phil: if we added any more items in the menu it would become supper cluttered. yuvipanda pointed this out [17:39:48] brion, is there any timetable for this? :) [17:40:05] tfinc, i see, thanks. [17:40:38] not yet, i think we're planning a ui overhaul of the app soon though (tfinc would know schedules better) [17:41:47] pill: it'll be part of the new nav [17:42:11] pill: check out out here http://bit.ly/wmoptin [17:42:28] it* [17:44:52] ah, one more question (i don't use the app myself) -- people could still navigate to special:Randompage via the search field, yes? [17:46:29] jaw drops http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Catedral_de_Huejutla_2012-09-09_12-19-35.jpg [17:46:56] pill: not in the app. yes in the browser [17:47:42] ok, perfect. [18:17:50] awjr: i'm activatiing 1.2.3 [18:18:13] tfinc do you have the list of changes? i think i just sent it to phil [18:18:48] awjr: the current copy starts with "* Adds "Upload more photos of this monument" link to the photo's page on Commons, which simplifies uploading camera photos" [18:19:20] awjr: is that the right list of new changes ? [18:19:49] tfinc: yeah, looks correct [18:20:39] done: 1.2.3 is the active build now [18:20:51] i *love* that you can easily reactivate any old verion in the android market [18:20:54] groovy; i wonder if phil just forgot to activate it [18:21:18] tfinc i talked to him this morning on the phone and he didn't mention anything about it, so i presume it was just an oversight [18:22:56] awjr: MaxSem: brion jdlrobson_ : for the 15:30 - Department-level meetings (decided ahead of time) ive started drafting an agenda @ http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/MobileTechDays [18:23:58] add topics that you want us to talk about [18:28:30] tfinc: relevant to our interests: http://uxdesign.smashingmagazine.com/2012/09/11/sticky-menus-are-quicker-to-navigate/ [18:29:23] * tfinc puts it on the read it later queue [18:30:13] tfinc: i'm registering for that blackberry dev jam, that ok? since it's comp'd that's nice [18:30:37] brion: when is it? [18:30:41] if 3 days is too much i can just hit the highlights first day [18:30:54] sep 25-27 [18:32:18] awjr: hows brion conf attendance affect our upcoming sprint ? [18:33:11] it'd suck out a day or two of my time [18:33:22] o_O [18:33:25] if you think it's a bad time, i can skip it and wait for documentation [18:33:57] it sounds like it'll be easy to do a bb10 port of the phonegap stuff, based on how straightforward it was for playbook [18:34:24] brion we are tentatively planning on kicking off our next development iteration on 9/25 [18:34:28] i'd love to get more details on their stack if the time's there though [18:34:51] this is the kind of thing that i'd want our research time to fit into [18:35:00] so that it doesn't slow down our velocity [18:35:08] brion i generally think it would be fine, particularly if you could still participate in kick-off activities [18:35:29] since were not focuson on blackberry its recommend trimming it to one day [18:35:36] *nod* [18:35:37] brion: by when do you need to make a decision? i can work on firming up scheduling [18:36:11] awjr: i can finish registering in a couple days… or i can just reg and then show up whichever day is least inconvenient :) [18:36:42] brion okidoke; i was hoping to get the scheduling firmed up by the end of this week anyway [18:36:48] ok [18:39:09] brion: just register for everything and we'll pick out the day later [18:39:14] spiffy [18:39:16] brion: that way you have your pass [18:39:31] looks like the breakout sessions on 25th are all afternoon (might be a keynote in the morning though) [18:40:14] man this wifi is… struggling [18:42:03] brion: try the staff ssid - it seems a lot better so far [18:44:43] The password doesn't seem to want to work for me on the staff one [18:44:46] Bye Arthur! ;) [18:45:19] there's also a possibility we might get a dev device, ooh [18:45:30] Reedy, brion: it is the same as the guest password, but s/guest/staff [18:45:48] i just tethered to my phone for the moment :) [18:45:52] i'll try the other one in a bit [19:04:47] there are too many people saying 'no frustrations' [19:04:51] i don't believe them [19:05:16] +1 [19:09:46] perhaps it is that people have become so used to frustration that it has reached a point of normalcy? [19:27:12] awjr: is there a Google hangout or anything for the tech days? [19:28:05] preilly: no, everyone is here in person [19:28:41] awjr: that's not true [19:28:43] awjr: I'm not [19:29:20] s/everyone/everyone else [19:29:43] awjr: now that's better [19:30:09] awjr: I've gone through heck to try to get back in time and no luck [19:30:17] :( [19:30:47] I'm in the hotel lobby in Zurich Switzerland [19:31:47] that… is a long ways away [19:35:14] yeah tell me about it [19:35:43] now if I only had a telepresence robot [19:39:35] awjr: are you guys at lunch? [19:40:38] not yet. [19:45:37] jorm: thanks for the information [19:46:19] preilly we're heading in to lunch now [20:33:34] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23444 [21:38:39] jdlrobson: notes link [21:38:47] please [21:39:03] tfinc: http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/TechDays-Mobile [22:28:18] awjr: this is still my favourite mobile contribution http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Itimad-ud-Daula%E2%80%99s_Tomb_2012-09-07_01-07-06.jpg [22:28:42] jdlrobson: yah, that is sweet [22:28:52] this guy uploaded via picasa [22:28:59] so not technically a mobile upload.. but still :) [22:29:35] ooh actually [22:29:37] i lie it is a mobile [22:29:38] jdlrobson: there seem to be quite a few that went through that flow [22:29:40] Sony Xperia U ST25i [22:29:43] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Xperia_U [22:29:49] unfortunately, uploading picasa photos from my mobile device does not work :( [22:30:07] jdlrobson: it was probably added to picasa, but uploaded via the app [22:30:20] jdlrobson: wow that "Front view of The Taj Mahal" photo is amazing [22:30:23] mm does the meta data not come from the photo: [22:31:25] jdlrobson: usually exif data will get added by the device, but i think picasa appends/modifies some of it [22:33:01] awjr: Picasa does the following: [22:33:02] 1._ It completely removes all info under [Maker Note (Vendor)] [22:33:03] 2._ Removes [Orientation] [22:33:04] 3._ Changes [Software] to "Picasa 3.0" [22:33:05] 4._ Changes [FileSource] to "DSC - Digital still camera" [22:33:06] 5._ Changes [SceneType] to "A directly photographed image" [22:54:51] this cracks me up http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Paoay_Church_2012-09-09_15-34-05.jpg [22:55:14] this user uploaded a 2007 image from a nikon d70 using our app [22:55:39] not the deskopt but our app. the desktop experience was so bad that he didn't even bother [22:55:42] instead he went straight to mobile [22:55:46] i'm going to email him to confirm [22:56:44] tfinc: I bet that the camera just didn't have the time set [22:57:35] hmm [22:57:36] File change date and time 01:33, 3 April 2010 [22:57:46] Date and time of digitizing 15:15, 4 April 2007 [22:57:59] User comments (c)2,006 Joseph Acapuyan [23:01:48] funny that he used a mobile device to upload a photo from his camera [23:02:07] jdlrobson: do we record the user agent used for the upload at all? [23:02:09] preilly: thats what i want to better understand. i just emailed him [23:02:14] we should do preilly [23:02:16] preilly: it was a Galaxy S3 [23:02:32] are you still talking about http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Itimad-ud-Daula%E2%80%99s_Tomb_2012-09-07_01-07-06.jpg ? [23:02:35] |user-agent=Android 4.0.4; en-ph; GT-I9300 Build/IMM76 [23:03:17] the exif data should show data from the camera right - not the phone [23:03:21] if i've done my dectective work right then this shows how poorly upload wizard works for some people [23:03:27] jdlrobson: no http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Paoay_Church_2012-09-09_15-34-05.jpg [23:03:45] tfinc: yeah that seems to be the case for sure [23:03:46] jamesf and i did some research on the uploader to [23:03:52] everything looks legit [23:03:58] so tfinc when are we doing the generic commons upload [23:04:02] tfinc: yeah his flickr photo stream is rad [23:04:08] where we swap monuments for wikipedia articles [23:04:25] and regions/countries for categories [23:04:34] (or just throw away the campaign stuff) [23:04:36] tfinc: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jacapuyan/ [23:04:57] I really like http://www.flickr.com/photos/jacapuyan/4132543823/in/photostream [23:05:09] as well as http://www.flickr.com/photos/jacapuyan/4148649255/in/photostream [23:05:11] if he responds with that our app made him contribute while the upload wizard dissuaded him. its a huge win for us. [23:05:18] yes. their stunning [23:05:42] and commons is lucky to get two of them [23:06:19] preilly: were eating into dept meeting time now [23:06:30] i'm not convinced that the 20% time talk will end anytime soon [23:06:51] heh [23:06:57] tfinc: okay [23:07:02] tfinc: I sort of want to go to bed soon [23:07:08] tfinc: but I can hang in there [23:07:35] preilly: go to bed [23:07:58] tfinc: thanks [23:19:50] brion: is there an easy way to see given a category what images are used in *any* wikimedia project ? [23:20:23] tfinc: click on each link and read the list (or scrape them in a batch ;) [23:21:08] brion: i figured [23:21:09] scrape!? [23:21:11] Bad brion! [23:21:35] another great success http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pablofcn .. previous mobile commons contributor using the app exclusively now [23:21:47] i really just need two solid hours to dig through all these uses cases [23:21:51] fascinating stories here [23:28:25] \o/