[00:18:52] 6Project-Creators: Create User-Josve05a project - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124122#1946393 (10Josve05a) 3NEW [00:19:00] 6Project-Creators: Create User-Josve05a project - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124122#1946403 (10Josve05a) [00:19:02] 6Project-Creators, 10Phabricator-Upstream: Per-user projects for personal work in progress tracking - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T555#8980 (10Josve05a) [00:44:09] whoa, holy flat design batman: https://secure.phabricator.com/p/nwaf1990/ [00:44:17] (not the actual content, just the design) [01:23:56] 6Project-Creators: Create User-Josve05a project - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124122#1946660 (10Krenair) 5Open>3Resolved a:3Krenair Done - #User-Josve05a [01:26:29] 6Project-Creators: Create User-reedy project - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117910#1786633 (10Krenair) Done - #User-Reedy [01:26:51] 6Project-Creators: Create User-reedy project - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117910#1946676 (10Krenair) 5Open>3Resolved a:3Krenair [01:29:27] 6Project-Creators, 7Tracking: [Tracking] Project creation log task - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103700#1946699 (10Krenair) Created #User-Reedy ({T117910}) and #User-Josve05a ({T124122}) [04:00:34] !! [04:00:38] https://secure.phabricator.com/T10180 [04:00:45] Previously, you had to be a member of a project to watch the project. Now, anyone can watch a project. This doesn't let you see anything you can't otherwise see. [05:21:40] dangit Krenair, you beat me, I was just about to update that ticket :) [12:40:09] 6Project-Creators, 6operations: Operations-related subprojects/tags reorganization - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119944#1947582 (10faidon) @Aklapper et al., any comments? Shall we proceed? [12:42:40] 6Phabricator: Update our Phabricator project membership / notification documentation - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124160#1947601 (10Aklapper) 3NEW a:3Aklapper [12:42:46] 6Phabricator: Update our Phabricator project membership / notification documentation - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124160#1947611 (10Aklapper) [12:42:48] 6Phabricator, 5Release, 7WorkType-Maintenance: Next Phabricator Upgrade - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120013#1842651 (10Aklapper) [12:46:23] 6Phabricator: Change user handle - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124059#1947618 (10Aklapper) Quoting the "Change Username" Phab dialog here: > Be careful when renaming users! > The old username will no longer be tied to the user, so anything which uses it (like old commit messages) will no longer associate... [12:47:00] 6Phabricator: Change Phabricator username of Niharika - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124059#1947621 (10Aklapper) p:5Triage>3Low [12:50:40] 6Phabricator, 10Phabricator-Sprint-Extension, 6Release-Engineering-Team: Let's all stay in the loop on the Projects V3 update - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120276#1947628 (10Aklapper) Is there anything actionable in this task which is not already covered by T120772? Or is this blocked on T120772? I w... [12:53:33] 6Phabricator: Git hashes for SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi not recognised in Phabricator (due to Pygments fork repo import) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119588#1947644 (10Aklapper) p:5Triage>3Low [12:53:50] 6Phabricator: Git hashes for SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi not recognised in Phabricator (due to Pygments fork repo import) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119588#1947649 (10Aklapper) >>! In T119588#1835165, @Krinkle wrote: > Let's nuke that repo? +1 if that has no other side effects. [12:58:30] 6Phabricator, 10Phragile, 6TCB-Team: Upgrade to "Projects V3" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120772#1947656 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) [12:58:58] 6Phabricator, 10Phragile, 6TCB-Team: Upgrade to "Projects V3" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120772#1947661 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) Added Phragile here, because it could also affect Phragile's functionality. [12:59:35] 6Phabricator, 10Phragile: Upgrade to "Projects V3" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120772#1860774 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) [13:06:04] 6Phabricator: Bulk remove @wikibugs-l-list from tasks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119829#1947675 (10Luke081515) a:3Luke081515 Remove it from ALL tasks? [13:07:10] 6Phabricator: Maniphest burnup report incorrectly counts "All Time" opened and closed tasks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119376#1947678 (10Aklapper) p:5Triage>3Lowest [13:07:58] 6Phabricator: Maniphest burnup report incorrectly counts "All Time" opened and closed tasks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119376#1947680 (10Aklapper) 5Open>3stalled [13:08:59] 6Phabricator: [Phabricator Labs] Ops Access Request don't work due to Puppet overwriting config - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117664#1947681 (10Aklapper) [13:19:48] 6Phabricator, 10Diffusion: Delete two test repositories in Diffusion - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117654#1947711 (10Aklapper) [13:19:53] 6Phabricator, 10Diffusion: Delete two test repositories in Diffusion - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117654#1780735 (10Aklapper) Removing repos: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Phabricator#Remove_a_repo Note that https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/diffusion/TESTREVSCORING/ does not trigger the usual 4... [13:26:26] 6Phabricator: High level overview of Phabricator projects - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T833#1947722 (10Aklapper) 5Open>3declined a:3Aklapper 1. Regarding Bugzilla's product-component tree structure vs. Phab's flat namespace, soon the way to go in Phabricator will be using subprojects (see T123078) i... [13:33:21] 6Phabricator: Phabricator unsubscribed me from a task? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119013#1947743 (10Aklapper) @awight: I assume (hope?) you actually accessed the link and FF just tricks you, so I propose to change the task status to "declined" and reopen if this ever happens again? Would that be fine w... [13:33:30] 6Phabricator: Phabricator unsubscribed me from a task? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119013#1947745 (10Aklapper) p:5High>3Low [13:37:56] 6Project-Creators: New codfw-rollout Q3 project and renaming old codfw-related ones - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124057#1947762 (10faidon) 5Resolved>3Open Thank you so much for the super-quick response. We just thought of an additional request (apologies for not thinking it originally): the codfw ro... [16:17:30] 6Phabricator, 10Phabricator-Sprint-Extension, 6Release-Engineering-Team: Let's all stay in the loop on the Projects V3 update - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120276#1948225 (10greg) This task is mostly superseded by Z308. I encouraged @DStrine to create tasks for tracking upcoming issues in Phab deploys... [18:05:18] 6Project-Creators: New codfw-rollout Q3 project and renaming old codfw-related ones - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124057#1948677 (10Aklapper) @faidon: Two questions below. Done so far: [X] (Remove the old compatibility name from #codfw-rollout-Jul-Sep-2015) [X] Create a new #codfw-rollout tag that is NO... [18:07:28] 6Phabricator, 10Phabricator-Sprint-Extension, 6Release-Engineering-Team: Let's all stay in the loop on the Projects V3 update - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120276#1948681 (10Aklapper) /me agrees with @greg [18:11:12] 6Project-Creators: New codfw-rollout Q3 project and renaming old codfw-related ones - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124057#1948689 (10faidon) >>! In T124057#1948677, @Aklapper wrote: > Why only #codfw-rollout-Jul-Sep-2015 and not also #codfw-rollout-Jan-Mar-2016 and #codfw-rollout-Apr-Jun-2015 )? Note that... [18:12:02] 6Phabricator, 10Phabricator-Upstream: Assign due date to task and have tasks with due dates displayed on a calendar - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76094#1948692 (10FloorKoudijs) I'd really love to see due data capability as well. Right now, the Education team uses Asana for some of the project management... [18:13:08] 6Phabricator, 10Phabricator-Sprint-Extension, 6Release-Engineering-Team: Let's all stay in the loop on the Projects V3 update - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120276#1948694 (10DStrine) Z308 is really helpful. I think we can resolve this task. [18:15:56] 6Phabricator, 10Phabricator-Sprint-Extension, 6Release-Engineering-Team: Let's all stay in the loop on the Projects V3 update - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120276#1948736 (10Aklapper) 5Open>3Resolved a:3Aklapper [18:17:42] 10Wikibugs, 5Patch-For-Review: wikibugs - throttle output, don't get kicked for flooding - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112032#1948768 (10Samtar) I //think// it's working - wikibugs is going mad on -dev at the moment but the rate looks good and it's not being flooded off :D [18:19:36] ^ coool [18:20:50] Blame me for it going mad. :) [18:21:03] keep going.. test it :) [18:25:19] 6Phabricator, 10Phabricator-Sprint-Extension, 6Release-Engineering-Team: Let's all stay in the loop on the Projects V3 update - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120276#1948816 (10greg) {icon thumbs-o-up} [18:27:57] andre__: did you do a bulk job? [18:28:07] that's when I kill it, when I do a 20+ task bulk edit [18:29:45] greg-g: Yes I did. And I am do it again! [18:29:52] * andre__ evil grin [18:30:22] 6Project-Creators: New codfw-rollout Q3 project and renaming old codfw-related ones - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124057#1948874 (10Aklapper) 5Open>3Resolved [X] Adjusted colors/icons of projects [X] Batch-added #codfw-rollout to 42 existing tasks in any of those three projects. [X] Set up Herald rule... [18:32:50] andre__: :) :) [18:35:26] Why the heck can I access https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/L2 but not https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/legalpad/view/2/ ? [18:35:40] * andre__ confused [18:39:44] andre__: what if you click the "manage" button on the first one? [18:40:37] that tells me that "You do not have permission to edit this object." Which is cool and expected. But my second URL is /view/ not /edit/ [18:40:54] oh wait. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/legalpad/view/2/ also talks about "edit". How misleading. [18:40:56] I see [18:41:06] "manage" takes me to a "view" link too [18:41:14] * andre__ should stop actually reading URLs and just blindly click $stuff [18:41:21] :p yea [18:48:36] 6Project-Creators, 6operations: Operations-related subprojects/tags reorganization - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119944#1948970 (10Aklapper) [18:51:57] andre__: :) any questions for ops? [18:58:08] 6Project-Creators, 6operations: Operations-related subprojects/tags reorganization - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119944#1949020 (10Aklapper) > #media-storage (convert the old yellow #Swift tag) Could you clarify the relationship with #Wikimedia-Media-Storage please? [18:58:39] 6Project-Creators, 6operations: Operations-related subprojects/tags reorganization - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119944#1949023 (10Aklapper) Further current tags that might be Ops-related (I assume they stay-as-is as non-changing stuff has not been explicitly mentioned in the task desc): #Diamond, #Gra... [18:59:33] mutante, all questions I ever had are filled as task comments :) [18:59:55] andre__: 'k !) [19:09:51] 6Project-Creators, 6operations: Operations-related subprojects/tags reorganization - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119944#1949053 (10faidon) >>! In T119944#1949020, @Aklapper wrote: >> #media-storage (convert the old yellow #Swift tag) > > Could you clarify the relationship with #Wikimedia-Media-Storage... [19:15:44] 6Project-Creators, 6operations: Operations-related subprojects/tags reorganization - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119944#1949081 (10faidon) >>! In T119944#1949023, @Aklapper wrote: > Further current tags that might be Ops-related (I assume they stay-as-is as non-changing stuff has not been explicitly men... [19:32:14] 6Project-Creators, 6operations: Operations-related subprojects/tags reorganization - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119944#1949155 (10Krenair) >>! In T119944#1949053, @faidon wrote: >>>! In T119944#1949020, @Aklapper wrote: >>> #media-storage (convert the old yellow #Swift tag) >> >> Could you clarify the... [20:43:07] 6Project-Creators, 6operations: Operations-related subprojects/tags reorganization - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119944#1949543 (10Tgr) >>! In T119944#1949053, @faidon wrote: > I wasn't even aware of [Wikimedia-Media-storage]… From the description it does sound like the same thing, but looking at the ta... [20:49:24] 6Project-Creators, 6operations: Operations-related subprojects/tags reorganization - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119944#1949563 (10BBlack) >>! In T119944#1949081, @faidon wrote: > I doubt that #Varnish is of any usefulness and that the project tag #Traffic is enough. Maybe @BBlack has a differing opinio... [21:11:25] 10Wikibugs, 5Patch-For-Review: wikibugs - throttle output, don't get kicked for flooding - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112032#1949700 (10Dzahn) @Samtar looks like you fixed it indeed. I saw mass edits that would have always kicked the bot in the past.. but it stayed online. very cool :) [21:12:37] 10Wikibugs: wikibugs - throttle output, don't get kicked for flooding - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112032#1949702 (10Dzahn) [21:15:39] 10Wikibugs: wikibugs - throttle output, don't get kicked for flooding - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112032#1949712 (10Luke081515) So we can close this now? [21:17:19] 10Wikibugs: wikibugs - throttle output, don't get kicked for flooding - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112032#1949714 (10Dzahn) 5Open>3Resolved a:3Dzahn i'll say yes.. we can always reopen it if needed meme, src="tech-barnstar", above="tech barnstar", below="for samtar" [21:17:39] 10Wikibugs: wikibugs - throttle output, don't get kicked for flooding - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112032#1949717 (10Dzahn) a:5Dzahn>3Samtar [22:56:12] 6Project-Creators, 6operations: Operations-related subprojects/tags reorganization - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119944#1950162 (10matmarex) >>! In T119944#1949053, @faidon wrote: >>>! In T119944#1949020, @Aklapper wrote: >>> #media-storage (convert the old yellow #Swift tag) >> >> Could you clarify th... [23:02:02] can anyone think of a reason that git pull from phabricator (over ssh) would take a really long time for someone in europe? same user can get to gerrit just fine and also can access phabricator's web interface without any problems. If they use a VPN to connect from a different network, it also works fine [23:02:13] ping time to git-ssh.wikimedia.org also looks ok [23:05:29] https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/mstiI0Wu/ping%20git-ssh-wo-vpn [23:14:54] twentyafterfour: When I cloned scap earlier today, it seemed to hang around for a while before doing anything [23:15:23] hmm [23:16:17] "Cloning into 'scap'..." [23:16:18] waiting [23:16:22] Reedy: thanks, good to know that it may not be just one user. but it seems to be network related in some way because connecting via a vpn (which actually makes latency worse) improves time to pull [23:16:35] for me it's absolutely fast [23:16:35] I'm just doing it on a vm I have with a goot connection [23:16:41] hmm [23:16:44] still no further output [23:16:54] where's the vm, geographically? [23:16:55] still nothing [23:17:01] Manchester, in the UK [23:17:17] still nothing... [23:17:23] (a vm at home did similar) [23:17:33] does git clone have a -vvv? [23:17:38] ok, yeah so it's fine in the US but maybe shitty for europe, but I don't know why it would be so bad ... [23:17:47] still nothing.. [23:17:50] there is a way to pass ssh args from git, I think [23:18:11] I'm running it with time [23:18:27] hmm, took ages, then The authenticity of host 'git-ssh.wikimedia.org (208.80.154.250)' can't be established [23:18:35] real 2m16.938s [23:18:42] let me do it again now [23:19:13] --progress --verbose [23:20:05] GIT_SSH_COMMAND="ssh -v" [23:20:59] 2m11.187s [23:21:00] for me in Missouri, US: real 0m2.442s [23:21:01] second time [23:22:07] doesn't seem to be honoring the GIT_SSH_COMMAND [23:22:20] WFM [23:22:26] oh I don't have git 2.3 [23:22:30] it's printing ssh commands [23:22:34] debug1: Connecting to git-ssh.wikimedia.org [2620:0:861:ed1a::3:16] port 22. [23:22:42] Looks to be hanging on ipv6 connection [23:23:35] ah ha! I suspected ipv6 might be involved [23:23:49] I've been having similar issues doing WMF ssh-ing [23:24:09] I wish everyone would just realize that ipv6 is a lost cause and give up ;) [23:24:13] debug1: Connecting to git-ssh.wikimedia.org [2620:0:861:ed1a::3:16] port 22. [23:24:13] debug1: connect to address 2620:0:861:ed1a::3:16 port 22: Connection timed out [23:24:13] debug1: Connecting to git-ssh.wikimedia.org [208.80.154.250] port 22. [23:24:34] twentyafterfour: So, I guess, it's resolving, but not listening on it's ipv6 address? [23:24:40] real 2m10.300s [23:25:20] let me try with -4 [23:25:45] real 0m3.508s [23:25:47] Yup [23:25:53] twentyafterfour: Fix IPv6 support [23:25:53] last I knew it didn't have an ipv6 address, I'm not sure when it got a dns entry for ipv6 [23:26:09] Probably when someone complained it didn't have one on phab :P [23:26:11] Reedy: not my department ;) [23:26:12] ipv6 won't work spoiler [23:26:25] chasemp: We should remove the ipv6 address then? [23:26:38] ^ what reedy said [23:26:41] it's on the books to do just not actually fw'd [23:26:50] so it's in a crap quasi state I"ll give you that [23:27:03] it's a whole thing [23:27:39] it's causing trouble for differential adoption: it gives a bad impression just when we want to be winning over the hearts and minds of developers ;) [23:28:01] kind of surprised we don't have more reports. any user who has IPv6 should see the same as Reedy then, since it will always be tried first [23:28:08] chasemp: how long to get it fixed? [23:28:11] chasemp: is it not possible to remove the dns entry? I understand that the firewall config is complicated and not really high prio [23:28:29] twentyafterfour: We can do that easily enough. //comment it out for now [23:28:34] mutante: because hardly anyone uses phabricator's git-ssh up until now [23:28:46] and because hardly anyone has support for ipv6 :-P [23:28:49] I'm not against it at all for now but I don't have time to deal with it atm either [23:29:23] chasemp: ok, hmm I don't know where to look or patch but thanks, I'll look into it [23:29:24] phabricator 1H IN DYNA geoip!misc-addrs [23:29:25] Ugh [23:29:30] twentyafterfour: look at the diff in the last year https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html [23:29:35] I think that means it's more complex [23:30:06] mutante: yeah, my ISP recently started supporting ipv6 but I haven't got my home network configured for it [23:30:36] Reedy: yeah, the whole thing is complex because phab has to be behind misc-web...not the ideal situation imo [23:30:38] Is there a task for this? [23:30:39] Reedy: i think that is unrelated [23:30:42] it makes everything waaaay more complicated [23:30:44] 238 git-ssh.eqiad 1H IN A 208.80.154.250 [23:30:44] 239 1H IN AAAA 2620:0:861:ed1a::3:16 [23:30:44] 240 git-ssh 1H IN A 208.80.154.250 [23:30:44] 241 1H IN AAAA 2620:0:861:ed1a::3:16 [23:31:04] oh, duh [23:31:20] mutante: Mind commenting out the ipv6 ones for now? [23:31:24] ok [23:31:28] With a comment that firewalls need fixing [23:31:34] Cause I presume you don't want to fix the firewalls? [23:31:44] Is there a task for getting the firewall config fixed? [23:32:35] yes [23:32:39] Reedy: if we are talking about ACLs, i can't [23:32:48] i dont have access to routers/switches [23:33:04] mutante: T100519 if you want a ticket :) [23:33:32] ok, thanks [23:33:37] (to reference, not fix :P) [23:33:43] yes [23:35:04] 6Phabricator, 6Release-Engineering-Team, 10Traffic, 6operations, 5Patch-For-Review: Phabricator needs to expose ssh - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T100519#1950387 (10mmodell) git-ssh.wikimedia.org has an ipv6 address in DNS, however, it's not yet active due to lack of time to work on this. We need t... [23:35:26] summarized the problem on that task [23:35:46] thanks :) [23:43:04] mutante: danke [23:43:48] 6Phabricator, 6Release-Engineering-Team, 10Traffic, 6operations, 5Patch-For-Review: Phabricator needs to expose ssh - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T100519#1950423 (10Dzahn) >>! In T100519#1950387, @mmodell wrote: > git-ssh.wikimedia.org has an ipv6 address in DNS, however, it's not yet active due to... [23:45:16] Reedy: de rien [23:53:24] 6Project-Creators, 7Tracking: [Tracking] Project creation log task - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103700#1950509 (10RobLa-WMF) I plan to rename #mediawiki-rfcs to #archcom-rfc, barring any objection. The whole creation of the new #rfc tag slipped by me in September, but we need to fix that, because ther...