[00:17:37] 6Engineering-Community, 10MediaWiki-extensions-Newsletter, 3Google-Summer-of-Code-2015: Goal: Newsletter extension for MediaWiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76199#1566045 (10Romaine) Thanks ResMar! What ResMar is describing is indeed a part of the issue I see. I am concerned about both the process o... [03:01:11] 6Engineering-Community, 10Pywikibot-OAuth, 3ECT-August-2015, 3ECT-September-2015, and 2 others: Wrap-up report for "Implement support for OAuth in Pywikibot" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109289#1566192 (10jayvdb) It would be good to mention * all integration builds of pywikibot changes now test oau... [03:02:28] 6Engineering-Community, 10Pywikibot-OAuth, 3ECT-August-2015, 3ECT-September-2015, and 3 others: End-term evaluation for "Pywikibot - implement support for OAuth" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109303#1566194 (10jayvdb) @VcamX , this project needs to be summarised on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Goo... [03:05:43] 6Engineering-Community, 10Pywikibot-Flow, 3ECT-August-2015, 3ECT-September-2015, and 2 others: End-term evaluation for "Implement Flow support in Pywikibot" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109300#1566195 (10jayvdb) [03:06:09] 6Engineering-Community, 3ECT-August-2015, 3ECT-September-2015, 3Google-Summer-of-Code-2015, and 2 others: [tracking] End term evaluations for GSoC 2015 and Outreachy 10 projects - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109204#1566197 (10jayvdb) [03:06:11] 6Engineering-Community, 10Pywikibot-Flow, 3ECT-August-2015, 3ECT-September-2015, and 2 others: End-term evaluation for "Implement Flow support in Pywikibot" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109300#1566196 (10jayvdb) 5Open>3Resolved [03:11:59] 6Engineering-Community, 10Pywikibot-OAuth, 3ECT-August-2015, 3ECT-September-2015, and 3 others: End-term evaluation for "Pywikibot - implement support for OAuth" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109303#1566203 (10jayvdb) [03:38:14] 6Engineering-Community, 3ECT-August-2015, 3ECT-September-2015, 3Google-Summer-of-Code-2015, and 2 others: End-term evaluation for "Wikidata Pagebanner extension" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109299#1566243 (10NiharikaKohli) Hi, @jdlrobson! You need to complete the project evaluation - on this task... [04:38:51] 6Engineering-Community, 10Pywikibot-OAuth, 3ECT-August-2015, 3ECT-September-2015, and 3 others: End-term evaluation for "Pywikibot - implement support for OAuth" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109303#1566269 (10VcamX) @jayvdb done. [04:53:32] 6Engineering-Community, 10Pywikibot-OAuth, 3ECT-August-2015, 3ECT-September-2015, and 2 others: Wrap-up report for "Implement support for OAuth in Pywikibot" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109289#1566276 (10VcamX) [05:06:13] 6Phabricator, 10WMF-Product-Strategy: Decide whether project reporting should be moved to Phabricator as well - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T24#1566280 (10Tbayer) Epilogue: Half a year later, I think we should record the fact that this approach has failed. To recap, until December 2014, the following re... [05:18:20] 6Engineering-Community, 10MediaWiki-extensions-Newsletter, 3Google-Summer-of-Code-2015: Goal: Newsletter extension for MediaWiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76199#1566284 (10Yaron_Koren) Can someone briefly explain the goal of this project? From the title and description, it sounds like a project to... [05:29:41] 6Engineering-Community, 10Pywikibot-OAuth, 3ECT-August-2015, 3ECT-September-2015, and 3 others: End-term evaluation for "Pywikibot - implement support for OAuth" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109303#1566296 (10jayvdb) [05:29:51] 6Engineering-Community, 3ECT-August-2015, 3ECT-September-2015, 3Google-Summer-of-Code-2015, and 2 others: [tracking] End term evaluations for GSoC 2015 and Outreachy 10 projects - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109204#1566298 (10jayvdb) [05:29:54] 6Engineering-Community, 10Pywikibot-OAuth, 3ECT-August-2015, 3ECT-September-2015, and 3 others: End-term evaluation for "Pywikibot - implement support for OAuth" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109303#1566297 (10jayvdb) 5Open>3Resolved [05:43:00] 6Engineering-Community, 10MediaWiki-extensions-Newsletter, 3Google-Summer-of-Code-2015: Goal: Newsletter extension for MediaWiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76199#1566304 (1001tonythomas) >>! In T76199#1566284, @Yaron_Koren wrote: > Can someone briefly explain the goal of this project? From the titl... [05:57:14] 6Engineering-Community, 10MediaWiki-extensions-Newsletter, 3Google-Summer-of-Code-2015: Goal: Newsletter extension for MediaWiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76199#1566306 (10Bawolff) >>! In T76199#1566016, @ResMar wrote: > I think that Romaine is implicitly criticizing a problem that's plagued the m... [07:28:23] 6Engineering-Community, 10MediaWiki-extensions-Newsletter, 3Google-Summer-of-Code-2015: Goal: Newsletter extension for MediaWiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76199#1566352 (10Qgil) @Romaine, @ResMar, here goes some background and a request to be respectful with the open and documented work that other... [07:44:02] 6Engineering-Community, 10MediaWiki-extensions-Newsletter, 3Google-Summer-of-Code-2015: Goal: Newsletter extension for MediaWiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76199#1566366 (10Qgil) >>! In T76199#1564774, @Romaine wrote: > >> Usernames and emails of subscribes should be kept private. The number of us... [07:45:02] 6Engineering-Community, 3ECT-August-2015, 3ECT-September-2015, 3Google-Summer-of-Code-2015, 3Outreachy-Round-10: Wrap-up report for "Reinvent translation search" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109293#1566367 (10Phoenix303) [07:45:31] 6Phabricator, 10WMF-Product-Strategy: Decide whether project reporting should be moved to Phabricator as well - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T24#1566368 (10Nemo_bis) Thanks Tilman for the writeup. [08:00:59] 6Phabricator, 10WMF-Product-Strategy: Decide whether project reporting should be moved to Phabricator as well - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T24#1566422 (10Qgil) We have got a bunch of process changes in the last six month, and my memory might not serve me well, but... I thought that the lack of monthly /... [08:15:24] 6Engineering-Community, 10MediaWiki-extensions-Newsletter, 3Google-Summer-of-Code-2015: Goal: Newsletter extension for MediaWiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76199#1566464 (1001tonythomas) [08:19:23] 6Engineering-Community, 10VisualEditor-LanguageTool, 3ECT-August-2015, 3ECT-September-2015, and 3 others: End-term evaluation for "Unified Language proofing tools integration framework" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109306#1566467 (10NiharikaKohli) @amire80 and @ankita-ks evaluations on Melange are... [08:21:36] 6Engineering-Community, 3ECT-August-2015, 3ECT-September-2015, 3Google-Summer-of-Code-2015, and 2 others: End-term evaluation for "An enhanced cross-wiki watchlist" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109297#1566480 (10NiharikaKohli) Hi @sitic, your end-term student evaluation is pending on Melange. Make... [08:22:49] 6Engineering-Community, 10Pywikibot-Flow, 3ECT-August-2015, 3ECT-September-2015, and 2 others: End-term evaluation for "Implement Flow support in Pywikibot" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109300#1566484 (10NiharikaKohli) Hi @happy5214, your end-term student evaluation is pending on Melange. Make sure... [08:23:31] 6Engineering-Community, 10VisualEditor-LanguageTool, 3ECT-August-2015, 3ECT-September-2015, and 3 others: End-term evaluation for "Unified Language proofing tools integration framework" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109306#1566485 (10Amire80) [08:24:25] 6Engineering-Community, 10VisualEditor-LanguageTool, 3ECT-August-2015, 3ECT-September-2015, and 3 others: End-term evaluation for "Unified Language proofing tools integration framework" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109306#1545370 (10Amire80) The checklist is now complete! \o/ @NiharikaKohli, can y... [08:25:47] 6Phabricator, 10WMF-Product-Strategy: Decide whether project reporting should be moved to Phabricator as well - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T24#1566491 (10Nemo_bis) The quarterly reports, as they get assembled in a WMF-wide quarterly report, provide scorecards with some details on what/how/why thing X we... [08:30:49] 6Engineering-Community, 3ECT-August-2015: Move material/guidelines for general "Introduction to Wikimedia Tech" talk on a wikipage - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T106753#1566501 (10Qgil) What about improving https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Starter_kit ? Then we could link the kit from the main sentence at... [08:38:45] 6Engineering-Community, 10VisualEditor-LanguageTool, 3ECT-August-2015, 3ECT-September-2015, and 3 others: End-term evaluation for "Unified Language proofing tools integration framework" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109306#1566526 (10NiharikaKohli) [08:39:09] 6Engineering-Community, 3ECT-August-2015, 3ECT-September-2015, 3Google-Summer-of-Code-2015, and 2 others: [tracking] End term evaluations for GSoC 2015 and Outreachy 10 projects - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109204#1566531 (10NiharikaKohli) [08:39:14] 6Engineering-Community, 10VisualEditor-LanguageTool, 3ECT-August-2015, 3ECT-September-2015, and 3 others: End-term evaluation for "Unified Language proofing tools integration framework" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109306#1566529 (10NiharikaKohli) 5Open>3Resolved @amire80, yep, it looks good to... [09:38:17] 6Engineering-Community, 10MediaWiki-extensions-Newsletter, 3Google-Summer-of-Code-2015: Goal: Newsletter extension for MediaWiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76199#1566711 (10Romaine) > User expectations, user privacy. Those are choices. Here it is chosen to give users privacy. I think it is thought... [09:54:11] 6Engineering-Community, 10MediaWiki-extensions-Newsletter, 3Google-Summer-of-Code-2015: Goal: Newsletter extension for MediaWiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76199#1566754 (10Romaine) > I'm sorry you received such notifications in your busiest time, but I hope you understand that we cannot wait for t... [10:34:30] 10Gitblit-Deprecate, 10Gerrit-Migration, 6Release-Engineering: Wikimedia code repository browser in Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T752#1566863 (10hashar) [10:34:33] 10Gitblit-Deprecate, 10Gerrit-Migration, 6Release-Engineering: Update {{git file}} to link to diffusion - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101358#1566861 (10hashar) 5Resolved>3Open Reopening. A manually maintained list of call signs / project name at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Module:Callsigns is... [10:53:17] 10Gitblit-Deprecate, 10Gerrit-Migration, 6Release-Engineering: Update {{git file}} to link to diffusion - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101358#1566902 (10Nemo_bis) What do you propose instead? Your suggested syntax `{{phab file |callsign=EFLW |file=composer.json }}` is unwanted. [11:26:12] 6Engineering-Community, 10MediaWiki-extensions-Newsletter, 3Google-Summer-of-Code-2015: Goal: Newsletter extension for MediaWiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76199#1566929 (10Qgil) In the Internet most newsletters have a private list of subscribers. If you want to discuss this topic further, please c... [11:37:59] 6Engineering-Community: Refresh the mediawiki.org homepage - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T653#1566949 (10Qgil) [11:37:59] 6Engineering-Community: Guided Tour at mediawiki.org? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85599#950622 (10Qgil) [11:39:41] 6Engineering-Community: Guided Tour at mediawiki.org? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85599#1566953 (10Qgil) 5Open>3stalled I just stalled this task on purpose, making it blocked by {T653}. Once we have a refreshed homepage in mediawiki.org we can discuss whether a guided tour makes sense. [11:41:14] 6Engineering-Community: Self-help guide to organize Wikimedia tech events - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85598#1566957 (10Qgil) Isn't this solved by https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Hackathons/Hackathon_tips_for_organizers ? [11:42:08] 6Engineering-Community, 6Labs, 10Tool-Labs, 6WMF-Legal: Set up process / criteria for taking over abandoned tools - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87730#1566960 (10Qgil) p:5Normal>3Low [11:49:12] 6Engineering-Community, 10Web-APIs-Hub: Use list of Wikimedia software projects (krinkle.github.io/#wikimedia ) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90381#1566992 (10Qgil) p:5Low>3Lowest At this point I think it is better to close this task as Declined. I don't see how can we maintain this effectively and... [12:26:16] 6Engineering-Community: Refresh the mediawiki.org homepage - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T653#1567077 (10Qgil) [12:26:18] 6Engineering-Community: Improve mediawiki.org's events calendar - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1035#18036 (10Qgil) [12:55:10] 6Engineering-Community, 10Analytics-Tech-community-metrics, 3ECT-August-2015: Automated generation of repositories for Korma - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T104845#1567148 (10Aklapper) [12:57:38] 10Gitblit-Deprecate, 6Release-Engineering: IPSet repository is not set up in Diffusion or Maniphest - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108903#1567158 (10hashar) @demon @20after4 would you mind looking at it? [12:57:59] 10Gitblit-Deprecate, 6Release-Engineering, 10at-ease: at-ease repository is not set up in Diffusion - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108902#1567160 (10hashar) @demon @20after4 would you mind looking at it? [13:03:56] 10Gitblit-Deprecate, 6Release-Engineering: Update mediawiki.org templates to link to Diffusion, not gitblit - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108864#1567169 (10hashar) For what it is worth, I reopened T101358 on the basis that https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Module:Callsigns is manually maintained and is goi... [13:06:45] 10Gitblit-Deprecate, 10Gerrit-Migration, 6Release-Engineering: Update {{git file}} to link to diffusion - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101358#1567170 (10hashar) I have added the point to the #releng weekly meeting agenda for August 25th. [13:40:03] 6Phabricator, 10Phabricator-Sprint-Extension, 10Phragile, 6TCB-Team, 5Phragile-1.1-release: Set 'enable-phragile' to true - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109042#1567261 (10Bene) [13:42:52] 6Phabricator, 10Phabricator-Sprint-Extension, 10Phragile, 6TCB-Team, 5Phragile-1.1-release: Set 'enable-phragile' to true - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109042#1567274 (10Bene) All blockers have been resolved, I think this can be done now. @Aklapper [14:03:28] 6Phabricator, 10Phabricator-Sprint-Extension, 10Phragile, 6TCB-Team, 5Phragile-1.1-release: Set 'sprint.enable-phragile' to true - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109042#1567346 (10Aklapper) [14:31:10] 10Gitblit-Deprecate, 6Release-Engineering, 10at-ease: at-ease repository is not set up in Diffusion - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108902#1567500 (10demon) Any repo created after I mass-created them awhile back is likely to be missing. Individual tasks to import missing ones are...less than useful...as... [14:34:37] 10Gitblit-Deprecate, 6Release-Engineering: IPSet repository is not set up in Diffusion or Maniphest - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108903#1567510 (10demon) Any repo created after I mass-created them awhile back is likely to be missing. Individual tasks to import missing ones are...less than useful...as I... [14:37:40] 6Phabricator, 10WMF-Product-Strategy: Decide whether project reporting should be moved to Phabricator as well - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T24#1567530 (10Tbayer) >>! In T24#1566422, @Qgil wrote: > We have got a bunch of process changes in the last six month, and my memory might not serve me well, but..... [15:19:34] man, I wish Phab bugmails had an X-Phab-Status: header so I could know if the task was resolved/declined/whatever [15:53:27] 6Phabricator, 10Phabricator-Sprint-Extension, 10Phragile, 6TCB-Team, 5Phragile-1.1-release: Set 'sprint.enable-phragile' to true - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109042#1567883 (10Christopher) Is https://phragile.wmflabs.org still the "production" instance? If so, it seems to be offline. [17:15:52] 6Engineering-Community, 10MediaWiki-extensions-Newsletter, 3Google-Summer-of-Code-2015: Goal: Newsletter extension for MediaWiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76199#1568209 (10Yaron_Koren) @01tonythomas - when you say "built from scratch", does that mean that the old extension code was simply wiped ou... [17:16:55] 6Project-Creators, 15User-Bd808-Test: Create Security-Team project - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95486#1568212 (10csteipp) > Yes, per https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Project_management#Types_of_Projects it should be given the policy icon and a red background. Only administrators and @csteipp... [17:20:50] 6Engineering-Community, 10MediaWiki-extensions-Newsletter, 3Google-Summer-of-Code-2015: Goal: Newsletter extension for MediaWiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76199#1568219 (1001tonythomas) >>! In T76199#1568209, @Yaron_Koren wrote: > @01tonythomas - when you say "built from scratch", does that mean t... [17:35:33] 6Engineering-Community, 6Security-Team: Security training Logistics - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108893#1568304 (10Rfarrand) 5Open>3Resolved [17:52:24] 6Engineering-Community, 10MediaWiki-extensions-Newsletter, 3Google-Summer-of-Code-2015: Goal: Newsletter extension for MediaWiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76199#1568385 (10Yaron_Koren) @01tonythomas - okay, thanks, that's helpful. I don't know if giving someone credit for code he didn't write is "... [18:29:56] 6Phabricator: Tasks in #compact-personal-bar-(beta) should probably all be declined? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110089#1568581 (10matmarex) 3NEW [18:38:41] 6Engineering-Community: Self-help guide to organize Wikimedia tech events - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85598#1568617 (10Rfarrand) Yes, not quite finished with all of the documentation yet. Will close this soon, but don't want to close it until I finish a few last things. [18:40:00] 6Phabricator: Tasks in #compact-personal-bar-(beta) should probably all be declined? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110089#1568633 (10greg) Not sure if the Phabricator project is the right place for this, as the admins of Phab aren't the sole deciders of (effectively) policy decisions like this. In the pas... [18:50:33] 6Engineering-Community, 10MediaWiki-extensions-Newsletter, 3Google-Summer-of-Code-2015: Goal: Newsletter extension for MediaWiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76199#1568695 (10Qgil) For what is worth, {T108205} is still open, to be closed this week. [19:02:15] 6Engineering-Community, 10MediaWiki-extensions-Newsletter, 3Google-Summer-of-Code-2015: Goal: Newsletter extension for MediaWiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76199#1568835 (10koustuvcse) Ohh [19:04:04] 10Gitblit-Deprecate, 6Release-Engineering: Update mediawiki.org templates to link to Diffusion, not gitblit - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108864#1568848 (10Nemo_bis) The module is certainly ugly; the solution is T106130. The actual overhead I can't measure, but it's mostly about running P726 every now a... [19:18:26] 6Phabricator: Tasks in #compact-personal-bar-(beta) should probably all be declined? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110089#1568920 (10matmarex) > Is the existence of the tasks causing problems in other ways? Not really. They come up as "Open" in searches, which isn't really true. I just thought it was wei... [19:21:00] 6Phabricator: Tasks in #compact-personal-bar-(beta) should probably all be declined? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110089#1568923 (10Legoktm) IMO the tasks should remain open as long as the code is still in the git repo. If/once the extension is archived by emptying the git repo, then all the tasks should... [20:40:07] 6Engineering-Community, 3ECT-August-2015: Self-help guide to organize Wikimedia tech events - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85598#1569080 (10Qgil) [20:47:44] 6Engineering-Community, 10Web-APIs-Hub, 7Documentation, 3ECT-August-2015: Goal: Create landing pages for the free open knowledge sources on the Web APIs Hub - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T104282#1569105 (10Spage) - Wikimedia Commons now links to https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Reusing_cont...