[00:00:04] 6Phabricator, 6Labs: Phab-02 sending old stylesheet copies - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94413#1184370 (10Negative24) 5Open>3stalled [00:00:50] chasemp: regarding the phab version change [00:00:55] before: sprint_tag => 'release/2015-01-08/1', [00:01:04] after: sprint_tag => 'release/2015-02-18', [00:01:09] does it need to end in /1 ? [00:01:24] is that like a patch set? [00:21:42] 6Phabricator, 10Wikimedia-Bugzilla, 6operations: Bugzilla HTML static version and database dump - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1198#1184431 (10JohnLewis) [00:57:54] 6Phabricator, 6operations, 5Patch-For-Review: reclaim radon as spare re-use server 'radon' as phab failover - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88818#1184482 (10Dzahn) revoked salt key and puppet cert, it was already powered down removed from DNS still needs (maybe): racktables, switchport, disk wipe? [00:59:02] 6Phabricator, 6operations, 5Patch-For-Review: reclaim radon as spare re-use server 'radon' as phab failover - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88818#1184483 (10Dzahn) 5Open>3Resolved nevermind, disks are also wiped already. i think this is done with all the "reclaim as spare" steps. [07:26:33] 6Project-Creators, 6MediaWiki-Core-Team, 15User-Bd808-Test: Create Availability-Team project - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94490#1184821 (10Gilles) 5Open>3Resolved a:3Gilles #availability [07:58:07] 6Phabricator, 10Wikimedia-Bugzilla, 6operations: Prove that old-bugzilla is 100 % superseded - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95265#1184877 (10Nemo_bis) 3NEW [08:01:05] 6Phabricator, 10Wikimedia-Bugzilla, 6operations, 7Tracking: Complete migration of all Bugzilla users and their data - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95266#1184887 (10Nemo_bis) 3NEW [08:01:20] 6Phabricator, 10Wikimedia-Bugzilla, 6operations: Complete migration of all Bugzilla users and their data - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95266#1184887 (10Nemo_bis) [08:09:49] 6Phabricator, 10Wikimedia-Bugzilla, 6operations: Provide alternate search interface for bugzilla database - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95267#1184908 (10Nemo_bis) 3NEW [08:14:59] 6Phabricator, 10Wikimedia-Bugzilla, 6operations, 7Tracking: Tracking: Remove Bugzilla from production - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95184#1184924 (10Nemo_bis) [08:17:44] 6Phabricator, 10Wikimedia-Bugzilla, 6operations: Sanitise a Bugzilla database dump - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85141#1184927 (10Nemo_bis) Does the script keep emails in place? Withot user IDs, the dump is not worth much. [09:31:37] 6Phabricator, 10Wikimedia-Bugzilla, 6operations: Provide alternate search interface for bugzilla database - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95267#1185045 (10Aklapper) p:5Normal>3Triage Could you document some of the concrete searches here that you exclusively use old-bugzilla for? [09:36:25] 6Phabricator, 10Wikimedia-Bugzilla, 6operations: Prove that old-bugzilla is 100 % superseded - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95265#1185054 (10Aklapper) p:5Normal>3Triage This does not sound reasonable to me so I propose declining this. In general, new systems have improvements / advantages and regre... [09:40:34] 6Phabricator, 10Wikimedia-Bugzilla, 6operations: Complete migration of all Bugzilla users and their data - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95266#1185061 (10Aklapper) p:5Normal>3Triage > old-bugzilla can't be removed until 100 % users have been actually created on Phabricator Realistically speaking, t... [11:00:09] 6Phabricator, 10Wikimedia-Bugzilla, 6operations: Provide alternate search interface for bugzilla database - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95267#1185185 (10Nemo_bis) I use everything at https://old-bugzilla.wikimedia.org/query.cgi?format=advanced : mostly search by summary, product, components, comment,... [11:21:53] 6Project-Creators: Create Phabricator "openZIM-zimwriterfs" project - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95218#1185201 (10Kelson) Name: zimwriterfs (if you can remove the "openZIM-" prefix for other openzim components, this would be welcome. Otherwise "openZIM-zimwriterfs") Description zimwriterfs is a command... [11:32:05] 6Phabricator, 10Wikimedia-Bugzilla, 6operations: Provide alternate search interface for bugzilla database - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95267#1185208 (10Aklapper) Bugzilla's search is more powerful than Phabricator's. The question is how often this power is actually needed and by how many users. :) I... [11:49:20] 6Phabricator, 10Wikimedia-Bugzilla, 6operations: Sanitise a Bugzilla database dump - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85141#1185242 (10Aklapper) [11:51:15] 6Phabricator, 10Wikimedia-Bugzilla: Prove that old-bugzilla is 100 % superseded - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95265#1185243 (10mark) [11:51:23] 6Phabricator, 10Wikimedia-Bugzilla, 6operations: Sanitise a Bugzilla database dump - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85141#1185246 (10Aklapper) >>! In T85141#1184927, @Nemo_bis wrote: > Does the script keep emails in place? Without user IDs, the dump is not worth much. Depends how strong your use case i... [12:07:14] 6Phabricator, 10Wikimedia-Bugzilla, 6operations: Provide alternate search interface for bugzilla database - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95267#1185277 (10Qgil) As time goes, the technical superiority of Bugzilla's search will be hampered by the fact that a bigger percentage of reports will be found onl... [12:17:51] 6Phabricator, 10Wikimedia-Bugzilla, 6operations: Complete migration of all Bugzilla users and their data - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95266#1185310 (10Qgil) I think we discuss somewhere already that complete migration of Bugzilla users was not a goal. Many of those "users" consist in a single and dep... [12:19:52] 6Phabricator, 10Phabricator-Sprint-Extension: Add ability to associate "Sprints" tags with main projects - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95186#1185315 (10Aklapper) I'm afraid this might be blocked by upstream sub-project support in https://secure.phabricator.com/T3670 [12:21:14] 6Phabricator, 10Wikimedia-Bugzilla, 6operations, 5Patch-For-Review, 7notice: Create a static HTML version of Bugzilla - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85140#1185325 (10Qgil) [12:54:13] 6Engineering-Community, 6Community-Liaison: Expand Friendly Space Policy to all Wikimedia online spaces - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87773#1185409 (10Qgil) >>! In T87773#1182214, @Nemo_bis wrote: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Terms_of_use#4._Refraining_from_Certain_Activities WORKSFORME. It is tru... [12:59:12] 6Phabricator, 10Wikimedia-Bugzilla, 6operations: Sanitise a Bugzilla database dump - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85141#1185416 (10JohnLewis) >>! In T85141#1184927, @Nemo_bis wrote: > Does the script keep emails in place? Currently the plan is to include the user ids in the original dump but whether t... [13:09:56] 6Phabricator, 10MediaWiki-extensions-OAuth: OAuth grant for Phabricator can be confusing to users - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95133#1185447 (10Qgil) >>! In T95133#1182747, @Qgil wrote: > Mmm... I believe this is a duplicate of an existing task, although I cannot find it. :/ {T598}, which was marked... [13:20:42] 6Engineering-Community, 10MediaWiki-extensions-Newsletter, 10Possible-Tech-Projects, 3Google-Summer-of-Code-2015, 3Outreachy-Round-10: GSoC'15 Proposal for Newsletter Extension Project - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93583#1185477 (10Qgil) [13:21:04] 6Engineering-Community, 10MediaWiki-extensions-Newsletter, 10Possible-Tech-Projects, 3Google-Summer-of-Code-2015, 3Outreachy-Round-10: Proposal for Google Summer of Code 2015 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93582#1185478 (10Qgil) [13:32:47] 6Engineering-Community, 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2015, 3ECT-April-2015: Brainstorming: ideas to help and support newbies and developers that are new to mediawiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94288#1185510 (10Qgil) The discussion is (rightly) focusing in the Wikimedia Hackathon 2015, and it would be usef... [13:57:04] 6Phabricator, 10Wikimedia-Bugzilla: Provide alternate search interface for bugzilla database - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95267#1185564 (10Aklapper) p:5Triage>3Lowest [13:57:11] 6Phabricator, 10Wikimedia-Bugzilla: Complete migration of all Bugzilla users and their data - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95266#1185567 (10Aklapper) p:5Triage>3Lowest [13:58:34] 6Phabricator, 10Wikimedia-Bugzilla: Provide alternate search interface for bugzilla database - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95267#1185581 (10JohnLewis) An alternative search interface could be provided using the database dump however it will not be a priority at all for the ops team to provide an interfa... [14:02:18] 6Phabricator, 10Wikimedia-Bugzilla, 6operations, 7Tracking: Tracking: Remove Bugzilla from production - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95184#1185616 (10JohnLewis) [14:02:21] 6Phabricator, 10Wikimedia-Bugzilla: Prove that old-bugzilla is 100 % superseded - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95265#1185613 (10JohnLewis) 5Open>3declined a:3JohnLewis I feel Andre covers my view of this perfectly really. Also a general bug which can be categorised as basically "everything is stop... [14:09:49] 6Project-Creators, 6Community-Liaison: Experiment with a Volunteer team tag - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87808#1185664 (10Aklapper) Project creation is cheap but it does come with some long-term costs (triage to associate the project, acceptance to use the project, longer list of projects for anybody).... [14:15:00] 6Project-Creators: Create project for software licensing issues - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95171#1185682 (10Aklapper) What's the usecase - who would use that project how? :) [14:17:39] 6Project-Creators: Create project for software licensing issues - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95171#1185700 (10Aklapper) Also see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Creating_and_renaming_projects [14:28:58] andre__, qgil: hi [14:29:15] please see https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95248#1184995 [14:29:23] context? [14:29:35] I seriously don't know :) [14:30:00] ah well that comment [14:30:03] yeah saw it. so? [14:30:13] if there's another weird one I contact the user [14:30:15] see the user's feed [14:30:41] They did do other weird stuff [14:30:56] where? [14:31:06] ah. auditing? [14:31:46] in that case I can just block the account I guess [14:31:48] true. thanks! [15:04:22] 6Phabricator, 6Team-Practices, 6WMF-Design, 6WMF-Design-Research: Migration of the Design team to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T832#1186031 (10Qgil) Thanks, according to your description, I think it is fair to consider that you are at least "fifty fifty" by now. Also note that currently... [15:32:50] andre__, do you as admin have any way to remove those pointless comments? [15:33:21] qgil, yes I can as admin hide them [15:33:40] ok [15:33:48] though I'm not a big fan of that when there's no really bad content [15:34:10] andre__, well, the one linked above is just robotic noise. Trash. [15:34:25] "Ah, WMF wants to hide something here?" [15:34:33] well, it's a trade-off. Hence I'm reluctant. [15:34:48] the account is disabled now. [15:34:51] ok [15:36:51] andre__: the community are too busy focusing on other departments hiding stuff than to focus on phab hiding stuff :) [15:37:11] haha [15:37:40] Maybe it's just because I had a long discussion yesterday how conspiracy theories seem to generally become more popular on this planet, and that "journalism has become bad" which influences me today [15:37:58] (private discussion, not in Wikimedia terms) [15:48:22] 6Project-Creators: "Graphoid" project - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94984#1186178 (10Aklapper) https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Graph mentions "Graphoid" zero times. Should it (which probably translates to "Is the codebase which seems to be at http://git.wikimedia.org/summary/?r=mediawiki/services... [15:48:37] 6Project-Creators: "Graphoid" project - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94984#1186179 (10Aklapper) p:5Triage>3Normal [15:58:16] 6Project-Creators, 6Labs, 10Labs-Vagrant, 10MediaWiki-extensions-OpenStackManager, and 9 others: Labs' Phabricator tags overhaul - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89270#1186219 (10Aklapper) [16:00:29] 6Phabricator, 10Phabricator-Sprint-Extension, 6Release-Engineering, 5Patch-For-Review: Create a continuous integration plan for Wikimedia Phabricator patches - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85123#1186233 (10Aklapper) [16:00:32] 6Phabricator: Goal: Consolidate Phabricator as project management tool - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94265#1186232 (10Aklapper) [16:01:35] 6Phabricator, 3ECT-April-2015: Goal: Consolidate Phabricator as project management tool - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94265#1158365 (10Aklapper) [16:03:07] 6Phabricator, 3ECT-April-2015: Goal: Consolidate Phabricator as project management tool - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94265#1186239 (10Aklapper) [16:13:36] 6Phabricator, 10Gerrit-Patch-Uploader: Create a phabricator api method to remove 'patch-for-review' tag from a task - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95307#1186257 (10mmodell) 3NEW a:3mmodell [16:15:48] 6Engineering-Community, 3ECT-April-2015: Engineering Community quarterly goals for April-June 2015 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93770#1186299 (10Aklapper) [16:18:34] 6Phabricator: make gerritbot remove the "patch-for-review" tag once a patch is merged (or abandoned) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95309#1186316 (10mmodell) [16:19:02] 6Phabricator: make gerritbot remove the "patch-for-review" tag once a patch is merged (or abandoned) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95309#1186292 (10mmodell) Is there even a project in phabricator for the gerritbot? [16:19:53] 6Phabricator: make gerritbot remove the "patch-for-review" tag once a patch is merged (or abandoned) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95309#1186331 (10mmodell) [16:19:57] 6Phabricator, 10Gerrit-Patch-Uploader: Create a phabricator api method to remove 'patch-for-review' tag from a task - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95307#1186330 (10mmodell) [16:20:09] 6Phabricator: make gerritbot remove the "patch-for-review" tag once a patch is merged (or abandoned) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95309#1186292 (10mmodell) [16:20:13] 6Phabricator, 10Gerrit-Patch-Uploader: Create a phabricator api method to remove 'patch-for-review' tag from a task - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95307#1186257 (10mmodell) [16:20:44] 6Engineering-Community, 3ECT-April-2015: Engineering Community quarterly goals for April-June 2015 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93770#1186335 (10Aklapper) [16:21:35] 6Phabricator: Create a phabricator api method to remove 'patch-for-review' tag from a task - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95307#1186257 (10mmodell) [16:23:22] 6Engineering-Community, 3ECT-April-2015: Engineering Community quarterly goals for April-June 2015 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93770#1186349 (10Aklapper) [16:25:47] 6Project-Creators: Create Phabricator "openZIM-zimwriterfs" project - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95218#1186367 (10Aklapper) 5Open>3Resolved a:3Aklapper As long as we don't have subprojects I'd prefer to keep those prefixes... Requested project has been created: #openZIM-zimwriterfs Please encoura... [16:31:32] 6Project-Creators, 6MediaWiki-Core-Team, 15User-Bd808-Test: Create Search-Team project - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94493#1186414 (10Aklapper) 5Open>3Resolved a:3Aklapper Requested project has been created: #Search-Team Currently nobody is a member or subscribed to this team, so please **encou... [16:40:53] 6Project-Creators, 6MediaWiki-Core-Team, 15User-Bd808-Test: Create Search-Team project - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94493#1186452 (10bd808) >>! In T94493#1186414, @Aklapper wrote: > Requested project has been created: #Search-Team > > Currently nobody is a member or subscribed to this team, so pleas... [16:47:45] 6Project-Creators: New Phabricator project for wikimedia-shop-design - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90653#1186480 (10Aklapper) 5Open>3declined a:3Aklapper Hmm. Closing as declined for the time being, though still not sure why. :-/ Would like to understand which practice was chosen in the end so we ca... [16:47:56] 6Project-Creators, 6Community-Liaison: Community Liaison private project - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94108#1186485 (10Aklapper) p:5Triage>3Normal [16:52:22] 6Project-Creators, 15User-Bd808-Test: Scrum of scrums blocker tags for new Platform teams - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94482#1186503 (10Aklapper) [16:55:28] 6Project-Creators, 6MediaWiki-Core-Team, 15User-Bd808-Test: Create Availability-Team project - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94490#1186526 (10Aklapper) [16:55:30] 6Project-Creators, 15User-Bd808-Test: Create Performance-Team project - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94489#1186528 (10Aklapper) [16:55:34] 6Project-Creators, 6MediaWiki-Core-Team, 15User-Bd808-Test: Create Search-Team project - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94493#1186527 (10Aklapper) [16:55:36] 6Project-Creators, 15User-Bd808-Test: Scrum of scrums blocker tags for new Platform teams - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94482#1186525 (10Aklapper) [17:08:15] 6Project-Creators: Create project for MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseView - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87428#1186599 (10Aklapper) 5Open>3stalled Last ping: Is this actually still wanted? @adrianheine ? @Lydia_Pintscher ? [17:20:14] 6Project-Creators: Create project for MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseView - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87428#1186620 (10Aklapper) p:5Normal>3Lowest [17:48:21] 6Phabricator, 10Wikimedia-Bugzilla: Provide alternate search interface for bugzilla database - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95267#1186840 (10Nemo_bis) > As time goes, the technical superiority of Bugzilla's search will be hampered by the fact that a bigger percentage of reports will be found only in Phab... [18:12:13] 6Engineering-Community, 3ECT-April-2015: Engineering Community quarterly goals for April-June 2015 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93770#1186964 (10Aklapper) a:5Aklapper>3Spage >>! In T93770#1156739, @Qgil wrote: > Passing the ball to @aklapper. You can pass it to someone else when you are done I thi... [19:34:53] 6Project-Creators: Create project for software licensing issues - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95171#1187176 (10Ricordisamoa) >>! In T95171#1185682, @Aklapper wrote: > What's the usecase - who would use that project how? :) My one-man team :) [19:35:48] 6Project-Creators: Create project for software licensing issues - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95171#1187180 (10Dzahn) I'd use that. [19:58:55] 6Phabricator: Obsolete attachments were not migrated from bugzilla - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78747#1187277 (10Dzahn) 5duplicate>3Open that wasn't a duplicate of that task [20:03:03] 6Phabricator: Obsolete attachments were not migrated from bugzilla - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78747#1187297 (10Dzahn) providing the database dump is still a blocker to shut down old-bz even if those missing attachments had been migrated. if the decision was not to migrate them that would be unrelated [20:32:39] 6Phabricator, 10Wikimedia-Bugzilla, 6operations: Sanitise a Bugzilla database dump - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85141#1187424 (10Dzahn) ``` #!/bin/bash # delete security bugs from bugzilla database for T85141 # secbugs.list is P440 # dzahn 20150407 declare -a tables=(bugs bugs_activity bugs_fulltext... [20:34:11] 6Project-Creators: "Graphoid" project - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94984#1187427 (10Yurik) Added graphoid section https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Graph#Graphoid_Service [20:35:17] 6Project-Creators: "Graphoid" project - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94984#1187430 (10Yurik) [20:47:59] 6Phabricator, 6Team-Practices, 6WMF-Design, 6WMF-Design-Research: Migration of the Design team to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T832#1187485 (10Jaredzimmerman-WMF) @qgil, for all intents and purpose the design team is on phabricator now, however some teams they work with are not. If those... [21:08:10] 6Phabricator, 10Wikimedia-Bugzilla, 6operations: Sanitise a Bugzilla database dump - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85141#1187562 (10Dzahn) @Eloquence @csteipp I have attempted to sanitize the Bugzilla database by removing security bugs. The goal would be to be able to put a SQL dump file on dumps.wm.or... [21:09:52] 6Phabricator, 10Wikimedia-Bugzilla, 6operations: Sanitise a Bugzilla database dump - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85141#1187575 (10JohnLewis) http://www.ravenbrook.com/tool/bugzilla-schema/?action=single&version=3.4.2&view=View+schema is also an official schema of a few versions back which I based most... [21:14:49] 6Phabricator, 10Wikimedia-Bugzilla, 6operations, 7Tracking: Tracking: Remove Bugzilla from production - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95184#1187598 (10JohnLewis) [21:17:29] 6Phabricator, 10Wikimedia-Bugzilla: Provide alternate search interface for bugzilla database - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95267#1187607 (10JohnLewis) [21:17:33] 6Phabricator, 10Wikimedia-Bugzilla, 6operations, 7Tracking: Tracking: Remove Bugzilla from production - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95184#1187606 (10JohnLewis) [21:19:11] 6Phabricator, 10Wikimedia-Bugzilla: Provide alternate search interface for bugzilla database - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95267#1184908 (10JohnLewis) [21:42:29] 6Phabricator, 10Wikimedia-Bugzilla, 6operations: Sanitise a Bugzilla database dump - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85141#1187667 (10csteipp) @Dzahn, how did you generate secbugs.list? In general, greping for a few of the security bug titles in the final output would be a good final check. I'm assuming... [21:50:57] andre__afk / qgil ^ could one of you look at the above? Were email addresses/login ids changable in bugzilla by the user? [21:54:29] 6Phabricator, 10Wikimedia-Bugzilla, 6operations: Sanitise a Bugzilla database dump - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85141#1187711 (10Dzahn) >>! In T85141#1187667, @csteipp wrote: > @Dzahn, how did you generate secbugs.list? So we have https://static-bugzilla.wikimedia.org/ and that was created by a scr... [22:02:43] 6Phabricator, 10Wikimedia-Bugzilla, 6operations: Sanitise a Bugzilla database dump - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85141#1187751 (10Dzahn) >>! In T85141#1187667, @csteipp wrote: > I'm assuming you stripped out logincookies and tokens tables too? And stripped out any hidden comments? We did that using t... [23:01:00] 6Engineering-Community, 6Phabricator, 6Project-Creators, 7Analytics-Volunteering, and 2 others: Analytics-Volunteering and Wikidata's Need-Volunteer tags; "New contributors" vs "volunteers" terms - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88266#1187899 (10kevinator) @aklapper I'll have an answer by 8am Wed, Mar...