[02:06:30] 6Phabricator, 10Ops-Access-Requests, 6operations: Add @Krenair to #WMF-NDA - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93318#1134328 (10Dzahn) [02:06:58] 6Phabricator, 10Ops-Access-Requests, 6WMF-NDA-Requests, 6operations: Add @Krenair to #WMF-NDA - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93318#1134305 (10Dzahn) [06:51:32] 6Engineering-Community, 10dev.wikimedia.org: Use list of Wikimedia software projects (krinkle.github.io/#wikimedia ) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90381#1134624 (10Spage) [07:13:54] 6Phabricator, 6Release-Engineering, 10Wikimedia-Git-or-Gerrit: Gerritbot shouldn't post "Change merged by jenkins-bot:" messages any more - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91766#1134653 (10jayvdb) I've seen Phab add '[user] mentioned this in ' , but it isnt clear that it is merged. Is that... [09:56:22] 6Engineering-Community, 3ECT-March-2015: Rooming buddies/rooming list for Lyon Hackathon - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93265#1134853 (10Qgil) I haven't thought about combining buddies with roommates, as obvious as it sounds now. Good idea! As long as this is more a suggestion than an enforcement, but kn... [10:05:02] 6Project-Creators, 6Community-Liaison, 10WMF-Product-Strategy, 3ECT-March-2015: Create Phabricator project to track noteworthy changes - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88468#1134864 (10Aklapper) I'm not aware of any standardization on sentence case. [10:12:07] 6Project-Creators: Create project "Anagrimes" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93182#1134887 (10Aklapper) 5Open>3Resolved a:3Aklapper Requested project has been created: #Tool-Labs-tools-anagrimes . Please encourage interested people to visit the project and to join the project as {icon users} members... [10:38:52] 6Project-Creators: New Phabricator project for wikimedia-shop-design - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90653#1134933 (10Aklapper) What is that solution (as I'm interested in best practices)? [11:12:29] 6Project-Creators, 6Community-Liaison, 10WMF-Product-Strategy, 3ECT-March-2015: Create Phabricator project to track noteworthy changes - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88468#1135047 (10Qgil) https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Creating_and_renaming_projects#Name says > Title case by default. [11:47:34] 6Engineering-Community, 6Community-Liaison, 3ECT-March-2015: Expand Friendly Space Policy to all Wikimedia online spaces - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87773#1135061 (10Qgil) [12:06:05] 6Engineering-Community, 6Community-Liaison, 6Human-Resources, 10MediaWiki-extensions-Extensions-requests, 10Wikimania-Hackathon-2015: System for reporting and flagging inappropriate user behavior - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90312#1135082 (10Qgil) I was thinking of starting with a simple solution... [12:08:08] 6Engineering-Community, 6Community-Liaison, 6Human-Resources, 10MediaWiki-extensions-Extensions-requests, 10Wikimania-Hackathon-2015: System for reporting and flagging inappropriate user behavior - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90312#1135084 (10Qgil) [12:09:04] 6Engineering-Community, 6Human-Resources, 6Team-Practices, 10Wikimania-Hackathon-2015: Code of conduct/Phabricator etiquette/Friendly Spaces/etc breach consequences and escalation paths - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90908#1070884 (10Qgil) [12:33:29] 6Project-Creators, 6Community-Liaison, 10WMF-Product-Strategy, 3ECT-March-2015: Create Phabricator project to track noteworthy changes - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88468#1135106 (10MZMcBride) Some context: and... [12:37:00] 6Phabricator: Enabling Herald - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T630#1135113 (10Aklapper) T493 blocks this task. I don't consider #WMF-NDA sufficient, even less "individually approved guests" as we're talking about leaking security related information. Setting Herald's "Can Use Applications" policy from "Admin... [14:57:19] 10Code-Review, 6Engineering-Community, 3ECT-March-2015: How to prioritize code review of patches submitted by volunteers - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78768#1135421 (10Physikerwelt) @Aklapper. I was indeed referring to Priority. Your link clarifies the situation, and I think it's a good concept that s... [14:58:02] 6Phabricator, 6WMF-NDA-Requests: Add @Krenair to #WMF-NDA - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93318#1135423 (10Aklapper) [15:02:25] 6Phabricator: Decline T4007 in favor of the #tracking project - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93366#1135451 (10Aklapper) 3NEW [16:14:15] 6Phabricator, 10Ops-Access-Requests, 6Release-Engineering, 6operations, 5Patch-For-Review: Mukunda needs sudo on iridium (phab host) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93151#1135629 (10Dzahn) a:5mmodell>3Gage assigning to Gage because he is on Clinic Duty from Monday [17:21:44] 6Engineering-Community, 6Community-Liaison, 6Human-Resources, 10MediaWiki-extensions-Extensions-requests, 10Wikimania-Hackathon-2015: System for reporting and flagging inappropriate user behavior - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90312#1135787 (10Jaredzimmerman-WMF) @Qgil we have to be careful about s... [18:38:06] 6Phabricator, 10Phabricator-Sprint-Extension, 10Quality-Assurance, 6Release-Engineering, and 2 others: Create Browser Tests for Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87359#1136192 (10greg) Was this supposed to be just for the sprint extension? If so, that seems done. Otherwise, we need some mor... [18:38:46] 6Project-Creators, 6Community-Liaison, 10WMF-Product-Strategy, 3ECT-March-2015: Create Phabricator project to track noteworthy changes - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88468#1136193 (10gpaumier) I really have no preference either way as long as the existing tags continue to work :) [19:34:27] 6Project-Creators: Create project: fr-campaigns - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93408#1136414 (10atgo) 3NEW [19:34:49] 6Project-Creators: Create project: fr-campaigns - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93408#1136414 (10atgo) [19:37:17] 6Project-Creators: Create project: fr-campaigns - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93408#1136438 (10Aklapper) 5Open>3Resolved a:3Aklapper Thanks for retroactively creating this ticket about #FR-Campaigns ! All fine and please keep it, it's just about transparency and keeping an overview what's going on.... [19:50:40] 6Project-Creators, 6WMF-Design-Research: Create Need-user-testing tag - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75933#1136512 (10aripstra) criteria for using needs-user-research tag: when there are known usability issues for a functionality or product and usability testing is needed. when there are questions / co... [19:53:45] 6Project-Creators: Create project: fr-campaigns - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93408#1136527 (10atgo) thanks @aklapper! [20:12:36] 6Project-Creators, 6WMF-Design-Research: Create Need-user-testing tag - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75933#1136606 (10Aklapper) > when there are known usability issues for a functionality or product and usability testing is needed. Playing a pessimistic bad cop, I could imagine that a number of users mi... [22:02:05] 6Phabricator, 6operations, 7Monitoring: Phabricator reported down on status.wm.o - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93443#1137054 (10JohnLewis) 3NEW a:3Dzahn [22:02:58] 6Phabricator, 6operations, 7Monitoring: Phabricator reported down on status.wm.o - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93443#1137062 (10jeremyb) [22:03:52] 6Phabricator, 6operations, 7Monitoring: Phabricator reported down on status.wm.o - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93443#1137054 (10jeremyb) [22:06:13] 6Phabricator, 6operations, 7Monitoring: Phabricator reported down on status.wm.o - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93443#1137073 (10Aklapper) That goes together with the Watchmouse notification on ops@ ("ALERT! Phabricator: Not matched"; Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2015 00:06UTC) which did not see a "[Ops] OKAY Pha... [22:06:59] 6Phabricator, 6operations, 7Monitoring: Phabricator reported down on status.wm.o - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93443#1137077 (10Dzahn) This is Watchmouse. It checks https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T2001 and looks for the string "Reference to bz1". It was a random test string that i expected was good... [22:09:57] 6Phabricator, 6operations, 7Monitoring: Phabricator reported down on status.wm.o - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93443#1137084 (10Aklapper) I still see "Reference bz1" in that task. Got more info how that's exactly queried by Watchmouse? [22:10:30] 6Phabricator, 6operations, 7Monitoring: Phabricator reported down on status.wm.o - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93443#1137085 (10Dzahn) I changed the test string to "docs are teh suck". This should fix it :) [22:12:41] 6Phabricator, 6operations, 7Monitoring: Phabricator reported down on status.wm.o - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93443#1137086 (10Dzahn) Andre, subtle difference between "Reference to bz1" and "Reference bz1" since a recent version upgrade? [22:13:13] 6Phabricator, 6operations, 7Monitoring: Phabricator reported down on status.wm.o - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93443#1137088 (10jeremyb) >>! In T93443#1137084, @Aklapper wrote: > I still see "Reference bz1" in that task. me too. and it doesn't matter if logged in. $ curl -vsSL 2>&1 'https://phabri... [22:16:07] 6Phabricator, 6operations, 7Monitoring: Phabricator reported down on status.wm.o - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93443#1137110 (10JohnLewis) >>! In T93443#1137088, @jeremyb wrote: >>>! In T93443#1137084, @Aklapper wrote: >> I still see "Reference bz1" in that task. > > me too. and it doesn't matter if... [22:16:25] 6Phabricator, 6operations, 7Monitoring: Phabricator reported down on status.wm.o - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93443#1137111 (10Dzahn) {F102172} [22:20:19] 6Phabricator, 6operations, 7Monitoring: Phabricator reported down on status.wm.o - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93443#1137144 (10jeremyb) >>! Re T93443#1137110 (@JohnLewis): ugh ?! :-( :P [22:23:00] 6Phabricator, 6operations, 7Monitoring: Phabricator reported down on status.wm.o - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93443#1137147 (10Dzahn) {F102178} ^ recovering , takes a bit because there are checks from many locations [22:23:06] 6Phabricator, 6operations, 7Monitoring: Phabricator reported down on status.wm.o - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93443#1137148 (10jeremyb) @chasemp or @mmodell should decide on the string. (or another method. e.g. checking a path for a specific HTTP status) [22:26:37] 6Phabricator, 6operations, 7Monitoring: Phabricator reported down on status.wm.o - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93443#1137155 (10Dzahn) checking actual content of an actual page is better than just checking for HTTP 200 imho. it can also be 200 and broken in surprising ways. [22:29:02] 6Phabricator, 6operations, 7Monitoring: Phabricator reported down on status.wm.o - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93443#1137165 (10jeremyb) well there could be a path that does a health check instead of just loading one page. anyway, I don't know phab, I want to defer to the experts as I said. :) [22:30:54] 6Phabricator, 6operations, 7Monitoring: Phabricator reported down on status.wm.o - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93443#1137167 (10JohnLewis) I just accidentally found https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/status/ - not sure how that works but... [22:48:10] 10Code-Review, 6Engineering-Community, 3ECT-March-2015: Organize a Gerrit Cleanup Day - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88531#1137191 (10Aklapper) [[ https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/Documentation/user-search.html | Gerrit search parameter documentation ]] and to some extent [[ https://www.mediawiki.org/wik... [22:53:04] 6Project-Creators, 6WMF-Design-Research: Create Need-user-testing tag - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75933#1137200 (10aripstra) @Aklapper Thanks for your thoughts here. I agree with your concerns, and when the tag is created, and there is a place for a description, I will add links to wikipages defining... [22:56:40] 10Code-Review, 6Engineering-Community, 3ECT-March-2015: Organize a Gerrit Cleanup Day - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88531#1137206 (10Tgr) >>! In T88531#1137191, @Aklapper wrote: > No idea how to get the "submitted by volunteers" part into this. `-ownerin:ldap/wmf -ownerin:ldap/wmde` The second rule... [22:59:23] 10Code-Review, 6Engineering-Community, 3ECT-March-2015: Organize a Gerrit Cleanup Day - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88531#1137208 (10Krenair) Those groups are not useful for this. They miss some people and they contain a lot of people who are also volunteers. [23:28:15] 6Phabricator, 6operations, 7Monitoring: Phabricator reported down on status.wm.o - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93443#1137334 (10Dzahn) It's reported as UP again on http://status.wikimedia.org/ Can we close it or do you want to discuss how to further improve it? @chase [23:29:25] 6Phabricator, 6operations, 7Monitoring: Phabricator reported down on status.wm.o - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93443#1137353 (10Dzahn) p:5Normal>3Low Lowering priority because it's unbroken for now. [23:44:45] hmm, there's not a log of changes to workboards, as in, creation and deletion and renaming of columns? [23:44:48] * greg-g can't find it [23:48:06] nope. and it's a bit scary. [23:50:22] greg-g, ssssh [23:50:43] <^d> Also, you can't delete workboards! [23:50:51] <^d> s/workboards/columns/ [23:51:18] well, the "can't delete workboards" one feels a bit like a broken record. Heard it too often already. :P [23:51:37] sorry, "archive" columns :) [23:51:51] I hate that you can't [23:51:59] delete them, that is :)