[00:05:34] 3Wikibugs, Tool-Labs, Phabricator: wikibugs test bug - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1152#1042643 (10Krinkle) 5stalled>3Invalid a:3Krinkle Bazinga! [00:05:35] 3Wikibugs: wikibugs should notify on dependency changes - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77006#1042646 (10Krinkle) [03:04:29] 3Phabricator: Phabricator should only notify changes to the "Security" field if it is indeed changed - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87135#1042769 (10Quiddity) >>! In T87135#986352, @mmodell wrote: > I'm not really sure what could be the cause of this but it's likely an upstream issue. :-/ The last change... [05:44:07] 3Phabricator: Missing info on T78424 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89690#1042892 (10Krenair) [06:11:43] 3Phabricator: Phabricator project display names use awkward capitalization and hyphenation - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T911#1042926 (10Jaredzimmerman-WMF) obviously I would prefer projects have normal sentence style structure, without hyphens underscores, etc. [06:23:20] 3Phabricator.org: image viewer close button moves with view scroll - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78077#1042928 (10Jaredzimmerman-WMF) 5stalled>3Resolved a:3Jaredzimmerman-WMF Seems resolved. [08:58:05] 3Phabricator.org, Phabricator: Phabricator should only notify changes to the "Security" field if it is indeed changed - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87135#1043048 (10Qgil) The Security field is a "custom field" in Phabricator language, and the report should request something like "Custom fields not changin... [09:13:43] 3Phabricator: Phabricator project display names use awkward capitalization and hyphenation - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T911#1043059 (10Aklapper) >>! In T911#1042449, @Qgil wrote: > What do you think? Basically nothing has changed since the last evaluation, hence no reasons to change something. [09:23:18] 3Phabricator: Missing info on T78424 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89690#1043066 (10Aklapper) 5Open>3stalled It has. It shows > Quiddity created this task.Via Web · Dec 12 2014, 8:21 PM here. If it does not show that for you, please provide a screenshot of the area at the end of the initial comment /... [09:31:18] 3Phabricator: Missing info on T78424 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89690#1043079 (10Qgil) I don't see it either. {F42387} [09:32:11] 3Phabricator, Phabricator.org: Missing info on T78424 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89690#1043081 (10Qgil) [09:52:40] 3Phabricator, Phabricator.org: Missing info on T78424 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89690#1043111 (10Aklapper) 5stalled>3Open [09:52:58] 3Phabricator, Phabricator.org: Missing task creation info on T78424 (for non-admins?) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89690#1043112 (10Aklapper) p:5Triage>3Low [09:57:15] 3Phabricator, Phabricator.org: Missing task creation info on T78424 (for non-admins?) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89690#1043118 (10Aklapper) p:5Low>3Normal Uhm, "Quiddity added a project: §Collaboration-Team." and everything done before that action (except for task description) is missing indeed whe... [10:06:43] 3Phabricator: Remove the two-factor authentication code for Negative24 account - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89605#1043133 (10Aklapper) In general we do not advertise using this functionality. Please paste your committed identity (SHA) on your user page. Afterwards, please follow the steps in T87495#1028... [10:06:44] 3Phabricator: Remove the two-factor authentication code for Negative24 account - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89605#1043137 (10Aklapper) [10:06:46] 3Phabricator: Remove the two-factor authentication code for Negative24 account - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89605#1040191 (10Aklapper) [10:06:57] 3Phabricator: Remove the two-factor authentication code for Negative24 account - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89605#1040191 (10Aklapper) [made this task public as there is nothing secret] [10:07:07] 3Phabricator: Remove the two-factor authentication code for Negative24 account - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89605#1043141 (10Aklapper) p:5Normal>3Low [11:07:18] 3Phabricator: Decide on "Needs Volunteer" Priority field value in Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78617#1043240 (10Aklapper) Thanks everybody for the comments and input. It sounds like renaming "Needs Volunteer" to "Lowest" is the least controversial. Also at least two teams have expressed that... [11:07:23] 3Phabricator: Decide on "Needs Volunteer" Priority field value in Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78617#1043242 (10Aklapper) >>! In T78617#1039914, @jayvdb wrote: > I'd love a "Needs staff" priority That's not a //priority// value and there are already [[https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/projec... [11:35:00] 3Phabricator, operations: The options of the Security dropdown in Phabricator need to be clear and documented - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76564#1043296 (10Krinkle) [11:42:22] 3Phabricator: Determine policy for Phabricator multi-factor authentication reset requests - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85706#1043305 (10Aklapper) a:3Aklapper In T87495#1028549 the affected user had a "user committed identity" template at the bottom of her/his user page. After checking that it was added... [11:43:32] 3Phabricator: Determine policy for Phabricator multi-factor authentication reset requests - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85706#1043309 (10Aklapper) Note to myself: I should sort this out and document as this problem might get more common (T89605). [11:44:50] 3Security-Reviews, Phabricator, MediaWiki-Core-Team: Aphlict security review - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1286#1043325 (10Aklapper) >>! In T1286#964692, @csteipp wrote: > I would still like to take a look at it. I'll start back in on it after CX. @csteipp: What is CX, and more important: When is that? :) [11:49:49] 3Legalpad, Phabricator.org, WMF-Legal: Allow people to see all signatures on a Legalpad document but not allow them to edit - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T374#1043331 (10Aklapper) @Jalexander: Any thoughts on the last comment by Quim? [11:52:30] 3Phabricator.org: Change default phabricator time format to something standard (don't use AM and PM) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86464#1043340 (10Aklapper) Might theoretically be merged by broadening the scope of T110 (upstream: https://secure.phabricator.com/T5296#62802 ) though that is about date, not... [12:01:00] 3Legalpad, Phabricator.org, WMF-Legal: Allow people to see all signatures on a Legalpad document but not allow them to edit - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T374#1043361 (10Jalexander) >>! In T374#1043331, @Aklapper wrote: > @Jalexander: Any thoughts on the last comment by Quim? Sorry, yes I generally ended... [12:01:42] 3Phabricator.org: Change default phabricator time format to something standard (don't use AM and PM) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86464#1043363 (10valhallasw) We can set a different default date format using the translate infrastructure: https://github.com/phacility/phabricator/blob/a7a3c90f145b9ad36050... [12:03:35] 3Phabricator.org: Improve default search to prefer tasks over changesets - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76273#1043370 (10Aklapper) a:5chasemp>3None [12:49:16] 3Project-Creators, Phabricator, Engineering-Community: Analytics-Volunteering and Wikidata's Need-Volunteer tags; "New contributors" vs "volunteers" terms - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88266#1043399 (10Qgil) Between the two... maybe "Ready-For-Volunteers" is more precise in its meaning? [12:51:27] 3Phabricator: Decide on "Needs Volunteer" Priority field value in Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78617#1043413 (10Qgil) >>! In T78617#1042191, @Deskana wrote: > I'd be okay with having a separate tag for needs volunteers This is being discussed at T88266. [13:36:31] 3Release-Engineering, § Phabricator-Sprint-Extension, Phabricator: Integrate Jenkins with Phabricator with Harbormaster - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89714#1043458 (10Christopher) 3NEW [13:58:16] 3Phabricator: Remove the two-factor authentication code for Negative24 account - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89605#1043478 (10Negative24) >>! In T89605#1043133, @Aklapper wrote: > In general we do not advertise using this functionality. > > Please paste your committed identity (SHA) on your user page. Af... [14:04:17] 3Release-Engineering, § Phabricator-Sprint-Extension, Phabricator: Integrate Jenkins with Phabricator with Harbormaster - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89714#1043493 (10Qgil) [14:04:34] 3Continuous-Integration, Code-Review: Connect Differential code review with continuous integration - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T31#477 (10Qgil) [14:05:12] 3Legalpad, Phabricator.org, WMF-Legal: Allow people to see all signatures on a Legalpad document but not allow them to edit - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T374#1043500 (10Jalexander) It's also not as important (and so less priority) as the issue of verifying who each account actually is since the list of si... [14:05:46] 3Phabricator: Determine policy for Phabricator multi-factor authentication reset requests - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85706#1043501 (10valhallasw) >>! In T89605#1043133, @Aklapper wrote: > In general we do not advertise using this functionality. > > Please paste your committed identity (SHA) on your us... [15:20:32] 3Phabricator: Determine policy for Phabricator multi-factor authentication reset requests - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85706#1043623 (10Parent5446) Can we possibly set up a different method other than this? I understand the community really loves this "committed identity" approach, but it is really defic... [15:44:28] 3Phabricator: Determine policy for Phabricator multi-factor authentication reset requests - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85706#1043656 (10valhallasw) Both the committed identity and 2FA prove one thing: that someone (who either provides the SHA hash, or sets up 2FA) is in control of that account at that ti... [16:16:36] 3Release-Engineering, § Phabricator-Sprint-Extension, Phabricator: Integrate Jenkins with Phabricator with Harbormaster - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89714#1043694 (10chasemp) There is a big leap here in that Harbormaster is a prototype application for which upstream will not take feature or //bug// repor... [16:23:06] 3Phabricator.org, Phabricator: Missing task creation info on T78424 (for non-admins?) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89690#1043722 (10chasemp) My guess is we need to loop in @christopher as adding the sprint project had weird effects? [16:29:01] 3Phabricator: Add a call to action to the empty assignee field? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89723#1043728 (10MC8) 3NEW [16:40:12] 3Continuous-Integration, § Phabricator-Sprint-Extension, Phabricator: Integrate Jenkins with Phabricator with Harbormaster - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89714#1043783 (10greg) [16:57:35] 3Phabricator: Please remove the two-factor authentication from my Phabricator account - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87495#1043846 (10chasemp) 5Open>3Resolved done [16:58:15] 3Phabricator: Add a call to action to the empty assignee field? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89723#1043850 (10MC8) This doesn't look like it's easy to do without hacking the source, which I'm guessing we're resistant to; Phabricator opts for the sentence-as-key version of i18n, and the phrase "None" is r... [16:58:31] 3§ Phabricator-Sprint-Extension, Phabricator.org, Phabricator: Missing task creation info on T78424 (for non-admins?) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89690#1043851 (10Christopher) [17:09:01] 3Phabricator, operations: The options of the Security dropdown in Phabricator need to be clear and documented - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76564#1043900 (10chasemp) 5Open>3Resolved a:3chasemp Marking this closed then as the description matches what I know to be reality. [17:15:07] 3Phabricator: Fix provided search results in Wikimedia Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75854#1043926 (10chasemp) [17:15:10] 3Phabricator: Searchable "Reference" custom field - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T991#1043923 (10chasemp) 5Open>3declined a:3chasemp >>! In T991#1031396, @chasemp wrote: >>>! In T991#1031384, @chasemp wrote: >> This has been sitting for awhile now. Is anyone going to take this on? > > Better questio... [17:15:11] 3: Imported bugs from bugzilla should be assigned the same number as their bugzilla ID (i.e. Bug 1 -> Task 1; Bug 2007 -> Task 2007) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T857#1043927 (10chasemp) [17:15:15] 3Phabricator: Add a call to action to the empty assignee field? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89723#1043928 (10Aklapper) p:5Low>3Volunteer? So this basically is a request to reimplement {T59648}. We can "translate" (=rename) user-visible strings in Phabricator rather easily, but strings do not have co... [17:15:28] 3Phabricator.org: Add a call to action to the empty assignee field? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89723#1043933 (10Aklapper) [17:22:17] 3Phabricator, operations: The options of the Security dropdown in Phabricator need to be clear and documented - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76564#1043976 (10faidon) Was the idea of calling it a "software security bug" rather than MediaWiki rejected? It's not clear to me. [17:24:12] 3Phabricator, operations: The options of the Security dropdown in Phabricator need to be clear and documented - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76564#1043981 (10chasemp) >>! In T76564#1043976, @faidon wrote: > Was the idea of calling it a "software security bug" rather than MediaWiki rejected? It's not clear... [17:26:15] 3operations, Phabricator: Mysql search issues flagged by Phabricator setup - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89274#1043996 (10chasemp) @springle I think the puppet looks good. When is good for you to knock this out? I'll try to sync up with you on irc also. Thanks again [17:37:33] 3Continuous-Integration, § Phabricator-Sprint-Extension, Phabricator: Integrate Jenkins with Phabricator with Harbormaster - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89714#1044027 (10hashar) I am not sure what Harbormaster provide and it probably does not match Zuul behavior ( I commented about it on T31#6408). Imho... [17:40:36] 3Project-Creators, operations, Phabricator: Create projects for Ops goals - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87262#1044033 (10chasemp) 5Open>3Resolved a:3chasemp Here is my take away: - Everyone, especially me, needs to be explicit and forward with project creation - I talked to the "owner" of the #inte... [17:45:58] 3Continuous-Integration, § Phabricator-Sprint-Extension, Phabricator: Integrate Jenkins with Phabricator with Harbormaster - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89714#1044045 (10chasemp) >>! In T89714#1044027, @hashar wrote: > I am not sure what Harbormaster provide and it probably does not match Zuul behavior (... [17:53:29] 3Project-Creators, operations, Phabricator: Create projects for Ops goals - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87262#1044051 (10Krenair) Thank you @chasemp. [17:55:19] 3Continuous-Integration, § Phabricator-Sprint-Extension, Phabricator: Integrate Jenkins with Phabricator with Harbormaster - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89714#1044053 (10mmodell) I have suggested several times that we could keep gerrit as an upstream to differential: do primary code review in differential... [18:16:37] 3Triagers, Project-Creators, Phabricator, operations: Broaden the group of users that can create projects in Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T706#1044083 (10JAnstee_WMF) I need to be given permission to create new projects. Please add me to project creators group. [18:59:13] 3Phabricator.org: Phabricator avatars are depressingly low resolution - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89675#1044277 (10brion) MZ, do you find the *on-screen physical size* depressing, or is it that they look bad on a hi-DPI display because they're half the screen density one would want? Is the size too sma... [19:19:36] 3Services, Phabricator: Create a 'service-runner' project - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89747#1044368 (10GWicke) 3NEW a:3GWicke [19:25:43] 3§ Phabricator-Sprint-Extension, Phabricator, Phabricator.org: Missing task creation info on T78424 (for non-admins?) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89690#1044413 (10Christopher) This is a hard coded result set limit derived from PhabricatorCursorPagedPolicyAwareQuery. The "show older" only appears if the... [19:41:00] 3§ Phabricator-Sprint-Extension, Phabricator, Phabricator.org: Missing task creation info on T78424 (for non-admins?) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89690#1044490 (10mmodell) @christopher: PhabricatorCursorPagedPolicyAwareQuery doesn't define $rawResultLimit though, so shouldn't it default to unlimited? [20:46:17] 3Triagers, Project-Creators, Phabricator, operations: Broaden the group of users that can create projects in Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T706#1044723 (10Qgil) @JAnstee_WMF done! Please remember to follow https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Creating_and_renaming_projects [21:00:30] 3§ Phabricator-Sprint-Extension, Phabricator, Phabricator.org: Missing task creation info on T78424 (for non-admins?) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89690#1044753 (10Christopher) @mmodell I think that the limit is defined in AphrontCursorPagerView with the property ```private $pageSize = 100; ``` Since... [21:18:14] 3Continuous-Integration, § Phabricator-Sprint-Extension, Phabricator: Integrate Jenkins with Phabricator with Harbormaster - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89714#1044801 (10hashar) I like the idea of keeping the Gerrit as a middle war to smooth the transition. That is less disruption for the CI workflow and... [21:25:01] 3Continuous-Integration, § Phabricator-Sprint-Extension, Phabricator: Integrate Jenkins with Phabricator with Harbormaster - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89714#1044829 (10Qgil) >>! In T89714#1044801, @hashar wrote: > If we could get a proof of concept by Lyon hackathon in May that would give us a great mat... [21:45:37] 3Phabricator, operations: The options of the Security dropdown in Phabricator need to be clear and documented - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76564#1044865 (10Qgil) I also think that "Software security bug" is clearer than "MediaWiki security bug". (Sorry for not replying before; I updated the description... [21:48:28] 3Phabricator, operations: The options of the Security dropdown in Phabricator need to be clear and documented - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76564#1044875 (10Qgil) [22:16:12] 3Phabricator, operations: The options of the Security dropdown in Phabricator need to be clear and documented - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76564#1044931 (10chasemp) [22:19:49] 3Phabricator, operations: The options of the Security dropdown in Phabricator need to be clear and documented - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76564#1044934 (10chasemp) >>! In T76564#1044865, @Qgil wrote: > I also think that "Software security bug" is clearer than "MediaWiki security bug". > {F687} [23:00:06] 3Phabricator: Next Phabricator upgrade on 2015-02-18 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86772#1045048 (10chasemp) One of the things we have noticed is that the phab/sprint url no longer works, it is now phab/project/sprint. I'm not a big fan of the asymmetry there with every other application in phabricator a... [23:18:55] 3Phabricator, WMF-Product-Strategy: Decide whether project reporting should be moved to Phabricator as well - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T24#1045088 (10gpaumier) [23:37:45] 3Phabricator: Next Phabricator upgrade on 2015-02-18 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86772#1045132 (10Awjrichards) @Christopher @chasemp what is the expected impact of these changes - eg how many teams/projects are going to be impacted? I'd really like to see the new sprint extension deployed ASAP but if it... [23:45:29] 3Phabricator: Next Phabricator upgrade on 2015-02-18 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86772#1045161 (10chasemp) >>! In T86772#1045132, @Awjrichards wrote: > @Christopher @chasemp what is the expected impact of these changes - eg how many teams/projects are going to be impacted? I'd really like to see the new... [23:50:38] 3operations, Phabricator, Wikimedia-Bugzilla: Create a static HTML version of Bugzilla - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85140#1045169 (10JohnLewis) >>! In T85140#1038257, @jayvdb wrote: > * attachments yet to be done, and "Show Obsolete" JavaScript still broken (reported earlier: T85140#987797) After lookin...