[07:20:31] 3Phabricator: Change default phabricator time format to something standard (don't use AM and PM) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86464#969741 (10Qgil) As far as I can see, there is no configuration option in Phabricator to do this. It might make sense to propose this upstream, since 24h time format is quite... [07:21:02] 3Phabricator.org: Change default phabricator time format to something standard (don't use AM and PM) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86464#969743 (10Qgil) [07:25:12] 3Phabricator.org: "Create new task" form content is not preserved after "back" button - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86463#969752 (10Qgil) For me it works in Chrome, not in Firefox. [07:36:33] 3Phabricator, MediaWiki-extensions-MetadataEdit: Archive #MediaWiki-extensions-MetadataEdit and its 4 open tasks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86456#969798 (10Qgil) 5Open>3Resolved a:3Qgil Alright, what I have done instead is to remove @IAlex as assigned and set priority to Needs Volunteer. This ref... [07:40:52] 3Phabricator: Local translations - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86293#969806 (10Qgil) To the original point, we are already using Local translations to modify UI strings, so I'm not sure why we need to keep this generic task open. [07:41:47] 3WMF-Product-Strategy, Phabricator: Require a Phabricator task to WMF Engineering quarterly goals - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86157#969807 (10Qgil) p:5Triage>3Low [07:45:13] 3Phabricator: No way to search or add CCs in Phabricator with URL parameters - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86458#969809 (10Qgil) About URLs CCing individuals, it is probably better to CC projects instead. The individuals actually CCed when doing this will be those subscribed to the project. I haven't test... [07:46:13] 3Phabricator: No way to search or add CCs in Phabricator with URL parameters - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86458#969811 (10Qgil) p:5Triage>3Low [07:47:13] 3Phabricator: OAuth login refers to mediawiki.org:/ - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T623#969813 (10Qgil) @mmodell, what is your opinion on this one? [07:55:38] 3Phabricator: Replace default avatar icon - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T256#969838 (10Qgil) 5Open>3declined a:3Qgil It has been almost two months of regular use of Phabricator and the default avatar seems not to be an issue for the vast majority of users. We have a policy for [[ https://www.mediawi... [08:32:57] 3Legalpad, Phabricator.org: Fail gracefully / better error message if cookies disabled? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T267#969890 (10Qgil) @aklapper, https://legalpad.wikimedia.org/ is deprecated, but do we have the same problem in https://wikimedia.phabricator.org nowadays? If so, is this a #phabricator.o... [08:35:03] 3Code-Review: GitHub->Phabricator import system - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T715#969892 (10Qgil) Even if this task is not strictly related with Gitblit, it is about importing existing repositories to Wikimedia-Phabricator, which is the purpose of #Gitblit-Deprecate. Associating accordingly. [08:55:16] 3Phabricator.org: show avatar of assigned to field on cards displayed in workboard - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85455#969910 (10Qgil) Thank you! Not bad at all for sprints, where there are less tasks and all of them are supposed to be assigned to someone. I can also see its usefulness in non-sprint proje... [08:55:38] 3Phabricator.org, ยง Phabricator-Sprint-Extension: show avatar of assigned to field on cards displayed in workboard - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85455#969912 (10Qgil) [10:21:21] 3Phabricator: Revise Phabricator downtime procedures to not redirect without user approval - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86114#970074 (10Qgil) @chasemp, any opinion or indication for a potential volunteer taking this task? imho we are not updating that often, so unless this is a trivial fix, I would not... [10:23:53] 3Phabricator.org: Exact matches should always win when suggesting/auto-completing - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76732#970080 (10Qgil) [10:24:17] 3Phabricator.org: Batch edit all tasks in a particular workboard column - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1284#970081 (10Qgil) [10:24:51] 3Phabricator.org: Show project description(s) on "Create New Task" page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1277#970082 (10Qgil) [10:26:12] 3Phabricator.org: SVG attachments are not displayed - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1016#970086 (10Qgil) [10:29:22] 3Phabricator: Mingle migration script - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T822#970100 (10Qgil) A month later... @Arrbee, any progress? [11:42:34] 3Wikibugs, Release-Engineering: Unify RelEng related IRC channels to #wikimedia-releng - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86053#970189 (10hashar) [11:42:53] 3Wikibugs, Release-Engineering: Unify RelEng related IRC channels to #wikimedia-releng - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86053#960529 (10hashar) We also need to migrate qa-morebots which reacts to `!log` commands. [11:45:24] 3Phabricator: No way to search or add CCs in Phabricator with URL parameters - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86458#970191 (10Technical13) >>! In T86458#969809, @Qgil wrote: > > About URLs for specific searches, why using URL parameters when you can create a more precise Maniphest advanced saved search and... [11:53:53] 3Phabricator.org: project icons missing on some tasklists - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86523#970340 (10Se4598) 3NEW [11:59:11] 3Phabricator.org: project icons missing on some tasklists - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86523#970432 (10Qgil) I can reproduce this problem in Firefox on our homepage. In Chrome it looks good. Weird. [12:00:27] 3Phabricator.org: project icons missing on some tasklists - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86523#970483 (10Qgil) p:5Triage>3Normal [12:09:22] 3Wikibugs, Wikidata, DataValues, MediaWiki-General-or-Unknown: Philosophical question: should bugs where *any* projects match be removed from -dev, or projects where *all* projects match? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86525#970538 (10valhallasw) 3NEW [12:10:18] 3Wikibugs: Philosophical question: should bugs where *any* projects match be removed from -dev, or projects where *all* projects match? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86525#970538 (10valhallasw) [12:34:05] 3Phabricator.org: Project icons missing in Firefox 34 on some tasklists in "Activity" dashboard - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86523#970601 (10Aklapper) [12:34:36] 3Phabricator.org: Project icons missing in Firefox 34 on some tasklists in "Activity" dashboard - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86523#970340 (10Aklapper) Puzzling. Confirming only for Firefox 34 for "Activity > New Tasks" "New Tasks" on https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/ frontpage. No such problem with Goog... [13:07:36] 3Phabricator: Local translations - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86293#970671 (10Aklapper) Every tracking task (this should be marked as tracking btw if it is one) takes someone's time to keep it updated, otherwise its value erodes. So... if someone files a request to change a string in Phab (without searc... [13:12:08] 3Phabricator: When you close an unassigned task as "Resolved" from the Comment action, Phabricator thinks you want to claim the task - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T84833#970676 (10valhallasw) [13:12:09] 3Phabricator.org: Task creation by email is unclear - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T865#970677 (10valhallasw) [13:12:11] 3Phabricator: Local translations - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86293#970674 (10valhallasw) 5Open>3Invalid a:3valhallasw [13:12:12] 3Phabricator: Change "Real Name" string for "Also Known As" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T798#970678 (10valhallasw) [13:12:14] 3Phabricator, Phabricator.org: Get rid of "Export to Excel" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T257#970679 (10valhallasw) [14:07:40] 3MediaWiki-extensions-UniversalLanguageSelector, Phabricator: create a Phabricator project for ULS compact links - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86536#970759 (10Amire80) 3NEW a:3Arrbee [14:14:33] 3Phabricator.org: Phabricator shows avatars consistently against user names, which some users may dislike - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T65#970779 (10Aklapper) 5Open>3declined a:3Aklapper I'm declining this as it does not seem to be an issue for the vast majority of users. Those users who would like... [15:05:00] Is it feasible to run a script to change instances of "bug X comment Y" to their phab equivalents? [15:05:21] maybe [15:05:38] X becomes X + 2000 [15:09:16] the comment number probably requires more work [15:09:38] but that should be possible, yes [15:17:50] Possibly something similar... Because phabricator was actually locked down, right? [15:20:55] there are tickets for that MC8 already [15:21:05] for all sources I think [15:21:20] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T687 [15:28:25] 3Phabricator.org: Project icons missing in Firefox 34 on some tasklists in "Activity" dashboard - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86523#970897 (10Se4598) >>! In T86523#970601, @Aklapper wrote: > (Redrawing by disabling certain elements in Firefox' CSS editor sometimes makes those items appear. Right-clicking... [15:58:05] 3Phabricator.org: Project icons missing in Firefox 34 on some tasklists in "Activity" dashboard - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86523#970943 (10Se4598) [16:18:46] 3Phabricator.org: Project icons missing in Firefox 34 on some tasklists in "Activity" dashboard - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86523#971006 (10Aklapper) >>! In T86523#970897, @Se4598 wrote: > If I disable > ``` > body { > font: 13px/1.231 "Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; > } > ``` > then i... [16:26:29] 3Wikibugs, Release-Engineering: Unify RelEng related IRC channels to #wikimedia-releng - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86053#971039 (10greg) [17:02:11] 3Phabricator: Herald rule to add "Multimedia" project to every task in Multimedia components - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86318#971115 (10Aklapper) 5Open>3Resolved Created H13. [17:29:12] valhallasw`cloud: can you sanity check this for [17:29:20] I noticed that phab WILL let you do like [17:29:23] T123#3 [17:29:29] to get to comment 3 with a relative reference [17:29:46] that //does not// get fooled by other activity I think? [17:29:56] so that means the translation of bugzilla comment refs would be mostly straight forward? [17:30:34] andre__: or ^d what changed that caused an unresolved setup issue? [17:30:56] I also really wondered this morning. [17:31:04] and I wondered even more how I could find out. [17:31:06] it wasn't me or you :) [17:31:08] yeah same [17:31:12] I don't like that it's a mystery [17:31:12] <^d> "daemons and web are out of sync" [17:31:15] <^d> someone changed config. [17:31:21] yeah, but who? hmm. [17:31:22] but someone with perms? [17:31:31] * ^d hasn't touched anything, saw same banner this AM [17:31:54] Hmm. From the list of admins, only twentyafterfour is left. [17:31:56] maybe it was mukunda [17:31:58] :) [17:32:01] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/people/query/RZoVXT3xqvph/#R [17:32:03] yeah [17:32:09] we should make an ongonig log [17:32:11] when we do that [17:32:12] or just [17:32:15] !log it always [17:32:20] it's probably bad it's been so looose [17:32:24] (on my part too) [17:32:30] are you guys open to that? [17:35:20] <^d> I'm fine with !logging [17:57:39] chasemp: yo yo, so, just checking in with you explicitly, did you see my email from last month re merging -devtools and -releng? [18:04:30] 3Wikibugs, Release-Engineering: Unify RelEng related IRC channels to #wikimedia-releng - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86053#971186 (10greg) >>! In T86053#970189, @hashar wrote: > We also need to migrate qa-morebots which reacts to `!log` commands. @jeremyb: can you help with that part (moving morebots fr... [18:24:42] chasemp: errr [18:24:46] chasemp: I'm not sure [18:25:25] I'm not even sure what that matches to, actually. [18:25:57] chasemp: might be javascript magic? [18:26:34] chasemp: and actually doesn't seem to work for me :/ [18:27:43] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T123#3 just puts me on the top of the page [18:28:56] (but we could add some extraspecial wikimedia javascript sauce that maps https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T123#comment3 to $('.transaction-comment')[i-1]) [18:29:12] T123#4 # Link to comment #4 of T123 [18:29:14] T123#4 # Link to comment #4 of T123 [18:29:16] oops [18:29:19] https://secure.phabricator.com/book/phabricator/article/remarkup/#embedding-objects [18:29:23] I thought that meant it would work [18:29:28] ...to me that means it should work [18:30:20] huh [18:30:22] wth [18:30:36] greg-g: I did see the email, I didn't get involved essentialy :) [18:30:46] I don't understand the overlap which means I don't really agree [18:30:52] but if everyone wants it then whatevs it can work [18:32:10] chasemp: gotcha. well, really it was very simplistic: Phab engineering will be maintained by releng, so put it in -releng. (Obviously that minimizes your/ops support, which is wrong, but then, everyone has that in some way :) ) [18:32:23] oh no not an ego thing [18:32:24] more like [18:32:36] devtoosl is meant for git questions, arc questions, developing in labs [18:32:37] etc [18:32:45] whereas releng is ...well releases and CI to me [18:32:56] so they are like, kind of aligned but like 10% overlap to me [18:33:08] (we had this split at dA so I'm possibly just looking at it very differently) [18:34:46] chasemp: well, releng is a team, and we'll be the 'owners' of git arc questions [18:34:50] * greg-g nods [18:34:52] gotcha [18:43:48] in essence if it's simple for everyone but me then I can adapt :) [18:44:28] I wouldn't expect a releng team to handle all git questions or general dev workflow questions ya know [18:44:31] so if that's your thing then ok [18:44:47] I think those questions will probably be in more specific channels typically [18:45:00] mw-dev for mediawiki, pywikibot for pywikibot, -labs for labs stuff, etc [18:45:02] that's why we wrapped them all up in devtools :) [18:45:06] as they usual interact [18:45:18] and it's a general but specific enough umbrella to triage to other places [18:45:38] could split the hairs 10 different ways I imagine [18:45:45] to be honest, I've only seen phab migration stuff here, no gerrit questions, for example [18:46:06] sure the code review q's will come with code reveiw in phab [18:46:51] Yeah, it'd be good to have a 'central desk' for the first wave of questions, I guess [18:46:54] it was useful during the migration, which is a reason to keep it for another... oh... year? :P [18:47:47] no idea how long the fold in of things will go on for, probably at least that long [18:48:10] I'm not like set against or going to argue against releng absorbing devtools, thus no response [18:48:15] but that doesn't meant it makes sense to me [18:48:20] or that I agree it's a logical move [18:48:30] I can survive it and we'll see how it goes if you guys are all for it [18:48:58] tbh I have never been in -releng [18:49:11] so for me it's not an extra channel or anything [18:49:21] anymore than I would think mw_security is a extra channel for non-opsy folks [18:52:33] valhallasw`cloud: evan said the docs are out of date on comment refs [18:53:15] chasemp: right, so either we use a bot to match them up, or we do it client-side with JS? [18:53:32] man suck either way [18:53:45] anchors make pages jump around anyway, so I think the JS option might not be so bad [18:53:46] I don't get why they made that change at all [18:54:00] I don't want to maintain that at all "forever" for legacy comments [18:54:10] also true [18:54:12] I would rather do a one time lookup and replace the text with the correct absolute ancor [18:54:14] if that's sane [18:54:17] and I'm not sure [18:55:00] chasemp: but then you'd have to actually go and change the text [18:55:00] not sure where that ancor is stored [18:55:07] yes but that is the plan either way [18:55:15] ah okay [18:55:19] (I can do that more or less sanely) [18:55:31] it's risky as you can imagine but I have the old text stored [18:55:35] so it's only so risky [18:56:05] *nod*. Plus, not really risky, because you just do XXX -> [[ url | XXX ]] so you don;t actually lose any info [18:56:13] yeah I think that's the leading thought [18:56:52] chasemp: shoul dbe pretty doable with https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/conduit/method/maniphest.gettasktransactions/ [18:57:44] I *think* that's ordered (not 100% sure) and you can just filter on 'comment' is not null [18:58:53] chasemp: what might be smarter is actually changing them to something like https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/.../1234/comment-0 [18:59:20] ! you could actually just ask phab when someone actually requests the url [19:03:08] (meeting) [19:04:08] chasemp: I hear ya, I'll wait on the redirect for this pending more thought on the "central place for gerrit->phab migration chat" [19:09:31] btw, I'm getting diffusion emails, am I still supposed to? [19:10:02] greg-g: fix hasn't been deployed yet, I think [19:10:56] kk [19:11:50] there isn't a fix for that yet, we need a reliable reproduce [19:12:01] depending on the issue here [19:12:49] not sure what the known one is, but I'm getting emails like: "[Diffusion] rOPUPb7ab98e6dd28: Move notices to -releng from -qa" [19:13:03] * twentyafterfour didn't change any settings ... [19:13:56] greg-g: is it historical or new activity? [19:14:27] new [19:14:41] new [19:14:41] I get them too [19:14:46] ie: today :) [19:14:53] can you ping ^d in theory [19:14:56] notices should be turned off [19:15:01] and that's not the 'known issue' [19:15:02] I think [19:15:02] 3Phabricator: Cannot drag a card to a column outside the current viewport - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86560#971440 (10kaldari) 3NEW [19:15:10] known issue is historical commits sending notices on import [19:15:35] Ah, I was confused by the broken permissions issue. My apologies. [19:15:51] it's https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78154 [19:16:57] yeah should break out into two tickets I think [19:18:22] <^d> Worst case, you can disable those notifs entirely in your prefs. [19:18:33] <^d> I got one the other day too, which makes me think the pref doesn't even work. [19:18:36] <^d> Who the heck knows. [19:18:54] <^d> I wish there was a "Don't freaking send e-mail when I say so" button [19:20:31] ^d: 'Mark as spam' ;-) [19:20:46] but that would probably be bad for phabricator emails as a whole :/ [19:20:48] <^d> Yeah [19:21:43] can we disable audit altogether maybe? [19:21:53] as it's audit sending emails if I understand correctly [19:24:18] <^d> Well when I had audit disabled we still got the e-mails. [19:24:24] <^d> So I turned it on so people could turn them off. [19:24:39] ah. [19:34:18] 3Phabricator.org, Phabricator: Do not send emails when importing changes to Diffusion - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78154#971536 (10valhallasw) I think the relevant code is at https://github.com/phacility/phabricator/blob/master/src/applications/audit/editor/PhabricatorAuditEditor.php#L907 and https://g... [20:23:41] would like to use "quote" on the original content of a ticket, like i can on comments [20:51:28] 3Phabricator.org: Cannot drag a card to a column outside the current viewport of the workboard - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86560#971847 (10Aklapper) p:5Triage>3Volunteer? [20:51:56] 3Phabricator.org: Cannot drag a card to a column outside the current viewport of the workboard - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86560#971440 (10Aklapper) Workaround: Zoom out in your browser first. Issue could probably be reported upstream. [21:11:59] 3Release-Engineering, Wikibugs: Unify RelEng related IRC channels to #wikimedia-releng - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86053#971928 (10greg) [21:18:05] 3Release-Engineering, Wikibugs: Unify RelEng related IRC channels to #wikimedia-releng - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86053#971942 (10hashar) [21:18:29] 3Phabricator, Phabricator.org: enotifs are sent from no-reply@phabricator.wikimedia.org - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85127#971944 (10chasemp) 5Open>3declined a:3chasemp >>! In T85127#940037, @chasemp wrote: > Email allows a 'reply to' header which means when you respond to these emails it doesn't g... [21:18:42] 3Release-Engineering, Wikibugs: Unify RelEng related IRC channels to #wikimedia-releng - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86053#960529 (10hashar) [21:19:12] 3Release-Engineering, Wikibugs: Unify RelEng related IRC channels to #wikimedia-releng - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86053#960529 (10hashar) qa-morebots got moved thanks to @valhallasw Gotta switch wm-bot now :-D [21:33:18] 3Release-Engineering, Wikibugs: Unify RelEng related IRC channels to #wikimedia-releng - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86053#971986 (10hashar) [21:33:50] 3Release-Engineering, Wikibugs: Unify RelEng related IRC channels to #wikimedia-releng - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86053#960529 (10hashar) I have killed wm-bot in -qa and legoktm have it join the -releng channels. We are missing some authorization, but that is not a blocker. [21:38:08] 3Code-Review, Engineering-Community: How to prioritize code review of patches submitted by volunteers - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78768#972007 (10Awjrichards) [21:41:26] 3Release-Engineering, Wikibugs: Unify RelEng related IRC channels to #wikimedia-releng - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86053#972018 (10hashar) Nothing left to do apparently. Thank you to everyone involved, I am letting greg-g to confirm and close :] [21:41:27] 3Phabricator.org: Cannot drag a card to a column outside the current viewport of the workboard - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86560#972014 (10Qgil) Isn't this task basically the same as {T78190}? [21:54:34] Hi, does anyone know wy I get an "Access Denied" screen for code commits on Phabricator, for example, https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/rANWMce5d1bae5e4e [21:54:55] AndyRussG: it's a known bug that is fixed but not integrated yet I believe [21:55:42] chasemp: ah tbanks... is there a workaround I should use? (And in passing, why would such a page be restricted? Or is that the bug?) [21:56:05] I got like a million e-mails about commits from Phab [21:56:22] ^d is the person to ask I think I'm not sure what's going on with diffusion [21:56:22] but [21:56:36] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78154 [21:56:42] https://secure.phabricator.com/T6790 [21:57:56] chasemp: ah OK, thanks a ton! :) [21:58:07] for a second i saw "secure.wikimedia.org" , bad memories :) [21:58:07] when is our next update going to be? [21:58:52] maybe we can fix the permission thing first? [21:59:08] ah. i'm late [21:59:15] I was just curious to see what was there.. [21:59:19] well next update I'm trying to figure out now [21:59:27] AndyRussG: you could probably go to it straight through diffusion? [21:59:37] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/diffusion/ [22:00:05] problem is we have 3 or 4 things that have to update together [22:05:17] chasemp: ah got it, I can indeed see commits there... Cool! Thanks much [22:12:12] <^d> "Access denied" is fixed upstream. [22:12:15] <^d> Waiting on code pull. [22:13:04] :) [22:18:42] 3Wikibugs, Release-Engineering: Unify RelEng related IRC channels to #wikimedia-releng - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86053#972161 (10greg) 5Open>3Resolved {{DONE}}! Thanks for all the help from those who merged all the patches/etc. [22:40:34] 3Phabricator, Wikibugs: Set up dumping Phabricator's project taxonomy to a wiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85096#972242 (10valhallasw) 5Open>3Resolved This is now at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Projects . Please feel free to update header/footer to your liking! [23:50:39] 3Phabricator: Phabricator 504 timeout when loading big sprint board - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86606#972475 (10Addshore) 3NEW [23:51:39] 3Phabricator: Phabricator 504 timeout when loading big sprint board - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86606#972482 (10hoo)