[00:11:38] 3CirrusSearch, Project-Management: Archive projects in Phab which were Bugzilla products and components closed for new bug entry - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T345#820135 (10Aklapper) 5Open>3Resolved Thank you! I've archived the project https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/wikimedia-lucene-search-2 an... [00:15:46] <^d> andre__: On that note, MWSearch could be archived too :) [00:16:50] ^d: uh, what's the status of that one? I never entirely understood all our search projects... if I downloaded an MW 1.19 tarball, would I get MWSearch? [00:17:00] <^d> No. [00:17:07] ah true, external extension not shipped [00:17:13] true, and lucene was default [00:17:17] <^d> No, it wasn't. [00:17:17] I remember sth [00:17:21] <^d> MWSearch + lucene-search-2 was what provided WMF searches. [00:17:25] AH! [00:17:29] <^d> CirrusSearch + Elasticsearch provide it now. [00:17:42] alright, archiving [00:17:43] <^d> Cirrus : MWSearch :: Elastic : lsearchd :) [00:17:46] thanks for the heads up [00:18:05] yeah. I like looking at architecture but I'm not into understanding it :P [00:23:45] 3Phabricator, Code-Review: "Fixes-Task" keyword in Git commit message that will cause a bug report to automatically be marked Resolved in Maniphest - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T55387#820171 (10Tgr) This would be more useful if it would close the bug only after the code has been deployed everywhere. Close... [00:28:51] 3Phabricator.org: Search dropdown results should open in new tab on middle-click - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76812 (10Tgr) 3NEW p:3Triage [00:30:07] 3Phabricator.org: Search dropdown results should open in new tab on middle-click - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76812#820185 (10Aklapper) p:5Triage>3Volunteer? [00:31:45] 3Phabricator.org: Make workboard column editable from task page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76813#820186 (10Tgr) [00:55:05] 3Phabricator.org: Phabricator need structured way of relating non-blocking tasks to each other similar to bugzilla - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76101#820249 (10Quiddity) I frequently consulted bugzilla's lists of "See also". I now find myself having to scroll through the comments of every phabricator ta... [00:55:10] Is there a task to make 'project' a required field? [00:59:50] I don't think so and I don't see much sense in that [00:59:55] there's triage for that. [01:05:18] IMO, making clueless people randomly enter some value in some "required" field, hoping that the damn "OK" button won't be greyed out anymore, isn't the most awesome UI :P [01:25:37] 3Phabricator.org: Phabricator need structured way of relating non-blocking tasks to each other similar to bugzilla - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76101#820302 (10Aklapper) [01:28:54] 3Code-Review: Align Wikimedia and Phabricator code review processes - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T167#820313 (10jayvdb) [01:32:22] 3Phabricator: Phabricator far too spammy and off-topic to continue posting to wikibugs-l - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T763#820329 (10jayvdb) [01:38:09] 3Phabricator: Bug list by emails - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76825 (10jayvdb) 3NEW p:3Triage [01:40:35] 3Phabricator, Phabricator.org: Users CCed in private tasks should be able to access them - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T518#820358 (10csteipp) >>! In T518#820032, @chasemp wrote: > @krenair pointed out that non-security-members could not fully public a task. That is true since we have no way to grant them... [02:37:14] 3Phabricator.org: Add related tasks ("see also") - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76828 (10Tgr) 3NEW p:3Triage [06:29:24] 3Phabricator: Sending email to create tasks doesn't work for me - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1077#820646 (10MarkAHershberger) It would help if you would post logs from your side that show what happens when my server hands off. You should be able to grep for "1XpUaM-000AUs-Ni". If you need real-time pro... [07:17:28] 3Phabricator, Phabricator.org: We need a Wikimedia process for filing tasks and patches upstream in the name of Wikimedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1298#820690 (10Qgil) p:5Normal>3Low Currently we are applying this process and it's working. I just don't have the time to wrap up and document this p... [07:31:48] 3Phabricator: Schedule RT migration for Dec 12th 2014 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76773#820697 (10Qgil) [07:39:49] 3Phabricator.org: Add related tasks ("see also") - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76828#820712 (10Qgil) p:5Triage>3Low This was discussed during the Bugzilla migration planning phase, and we decided not to migrate it. @aklapper, do you recall where? Searching for "See also" today is not easy... Editing... [07:48:24] 3Phabricator: Bug list by emails - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76825#820729 (10Qgil) [07:48:43] 3Phabricator.org: Bug list by emails - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76825#820731 (10Qgil) p:5Triage>3Volunteer? [07:50:37] 3Phabricator.org: Make workboard column editable from task page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76813#820736 (10Qgil) [07:52:24] 3Phabricator.org: Exact matches should always win when suggesting/auto-completing - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76732#820741 (10Qgil) [07:54:36] 3Phabricator.org: Exact matches should always win when suggesting/auto-completing - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76732#820744 (10Qgil) [08:15:48] 3Phabricator: Top bar of Phabricator should signify to users they are interacting with a Wikimedia project space - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T69#820779 (10Qgil) [08:47:56] 3Phabricator, Phabricator.org: Users CCed in private tasks should be able to access them - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T518#820862 (10Qgil) [[ https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Phabricator%2FSecurity&diff=1304124&oldid=1304123 | Phabricator/Security page updated ]], hopefully with a correct inter... [08:51:37] 3Phabricator.org: Add related tasks ("see also") - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76828#820864 (10Qgil) [08:51:38] 3Phabricator.org: Phabricator need structured way of relating non-blocking tasks to each other similar to bugzilla - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76101#820865 (10Qgil) [08:51:56] 3Phabricator.org: Phabricator need structured way of relating non-blocking tasks to each other similar to Bugzilla's "See also" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76101#820867 (10Qgil) [09:00:33] 3Phabricator.org: Add Acceptance Criteria/Checklist feature to Phabricator tasks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1141#820903 (10Qgil) Considering that you can reproduce the UI (even with more manual work, and considering that the "percentage complete" is just an illusion, can we consider this task Resolved... [09:06:48] 3Phabricator.org: Project suggestion dropdown should show more items than 5 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75737#820908 (10Qgil) [09:09:32] 3Phabricator.org: Search dropdown results should open in new tab on middle-click - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76812#820918 (10Qgil) Interesting. I'm happy to report this upstream, and I think the proposal will be better received if we provide a link to our code providing that functionality. Can someone p... [09:19:24] 3Phabricator.org: Logging when a task has been marked as a blocker - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76556#820923 (10Qgil) [09:21:42] 3Phabricator.org: Logging when a task has been marked as a blocker - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76556#820926 (10Qgil) Tested with https://phab-01.wmflabs.org/T331 and https://phab-01.wmflabs.org/T332 Everything seems to work fine in the task being blocked (we still need to test the notifications, but I... [09:25:56] 3Phabricator.org: Logging when a task has been marked as a blocker - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76556#820927 (10Qgil) My https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/notification/ seems to notify when a blocking task has been closed, but in my history right now I don't have any notification for the event of a task... [09:26:06] 3Phabricator.org: Logging when a task has been marked as a blocker - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76556#820928 (10Qgil) [09:42:59] 3Phabricator: Schedule RT migration for Dec 12th 2014 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76773#820941 (10mark) Ouch, I wasn't aware that this downtime would affect Phabricator as well as RT. I think RT (with its relatively limited, internal user base) can be down for 24 hours with little notice, but for Phabri... [10:15:41] 3Phabricator, Wikimedia-Site-requests, SUL-Finalization: Set $wgCentralAuthPreventUnattached = true; on mediawiki.org - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76146#820959 (10Nemo_bis) [10:48:33] 3Phabricator.org: Project suggestion dropdown should show more items than 5 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75737#821000 (10JanZerebecki) [11:02:28] 3Phabricator.org: Project suggestion dropdown should show more items than 5 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75737#821012 (10valhallasw) As a workaround, execute ``` JX.TypeaheadSource.prototype.setMaximumResultCount(100) ``` in the javascript console (or a userscript). [11:39:26] 3Phabricator.org: Project suggestion dropdown should show more items than 5 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75737#821053 (10Qgil) >>! In T75737#821000, @JanZerebecki wrote: > Nothing changed. Doh, sorry. This is what happens when you land here after digging into two search-related tasks. [11:59:44] 3Phabricator.org: Search dropdown results should open in new tab on middle-click - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76812#821076 (10Tgr) For MediaWiki that was T19808 / https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/23674/ ; in general, you need to make sure, that the search dropdown items are wrapped in tags pointing... [12:26:14] 3Phabricator: evaluate Phabricator's slowvote as a Loomio replacement for WMF - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76667#821113 (10Dzahn) I thought nowadays every employee automatically gets one of those "WMF" wiki accounts on office wiki created for them by OIT anyways, and the wiki accounts can be used to logi... [12:27:16] 3Phabricator: evaluate Phabricator's slowvote as a Loomio replacement for WMF - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76667#821114 (10Dzahn) [12:40:21] 3Engineering-Community, Analytics-Tech-community-metrics, Phabricator: Monthly report of total / active Phabricator users - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1003#821136 (10Aklapper) Let's have a separate ticket for some stats app in Phab. To avoid confusion: This ticket was originally about the cronjob that on... [13:07:44] 3Phabricator.org: Search dropdown results should open in new tab on middle-click - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76812#821199 (10Qgil) [13:08:00] 3Phabricator.org: Search dropdown results should open in new tab on middle-click - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76812#820178 (10Qgil) [13:10:29] 3Phabricator.org: Configure applications with public permissions (and user profiles) to not require users to login - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T57#821201 (10Qgil) Proposing to close this task as Resolved, knowing that the user profiles remain visible to All Users, and knowing as well that if we find anot... [13:13:13] 3Phabricator.org: Let users configure date format in account settings - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110#821205 (10Qgil) [13:17:40] 3Phabricator.org: RSS/Atom feeds - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T67#821208 (10Qgil) [13:25:13] 3Phabricator.org, Legalpad: Use translatewiki.net to localize Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T225#821220 (10Qgil) Upstream doesn't look that excited about using translatewiki and, in fact, our urgency for having Phabricator localized is very low now, even if when we discussed this it lkooked lik... [13:29:42] 3Phabricator, Phabricator.org: We need a Wikimedia process for filing tasks and patches upstream in the name of Wikimedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1298#821221 (10Qgil) For what is worth, I have been sorting out our requests upstream: https://secure.phabricator.com/project/board/404/ [13:50:24] 3Phabricator.org: Add related tasks ("see also") - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76828#821245 (10Aklapper) > "See also" today is not easy... The intention was to simplify the UI a bit as Bugzilla had a horrible number of fields... I really still like to know how often and in which situations people search... [13:50:26] 3Engineering-Community, Analytics-Tech-community-metrics, Phabricator: Monthly report of total / active Phabricator users - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1003#821248 (10chasemp) There is a "Fact" app that is pretty young, but it may make more sense to put our time into that https://secure.phabricator.com/fact/ [13:56:07] 3Phabricator.org: Add related tasks ("see also") - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76828#821253 (10chasemp) [15:07:51] 3Phabricator: Schedule RT migration for Dec 12th 2014 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76773#821406 (10chasemp) [15:19:33] 3Phabricator.org: Search dropdown results should open in new tab on middle-click - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76812#821442 (10Chad) [15:36:05] 3Phabricator, Phabricator.org: Users CCed in private tasks should be able to access them - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T518#821465 (10chasemp) [15:51:13] 1021 users, 76250 tasks, 914 projects [16:26:34] 3Phabricator, Phabricator.org: Users CCed in private tasks should be able to access them - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T518#821545 (10mmodell) [16:55:01] 3Phabricator.org, Project-Management: Restricting modification of tasks when they enter sprints - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T819#821566 (10Awjrichards) [16:56:28] 3Phabricator.org: Let users configure date format in account settings - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110#821567 (10Krenair) You mean it's not Wikimedia-specific enough? Sounds fine [16:59:12] 3Engineering-Community, Analytics-Tech-community-metrics, Phabricator: Monthly report of total / active Phabricator users - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1003#821570 (10Dzahn) https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/177792/ [16:59:25] 3Phabricator: Enabling Herald - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T630#821571 (10Qgil) [17:34:04] 3Phabricator.org: Let users configure date format in account settings - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110#821611 (10Qgil) The idea of T1298 is to use [[ https://secure.phabricator.com/project/board/404/ | the Wikimedia label upstream ]] only in tasks that are really relevant for us. The more tasks we add, t... [17:56:13] 3Engineering-Community, Analytics-Tech-community-metrics, Phabricator: Monthly report of total / active Phabricator users - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1003#821700 (10Qgil) >>! In T1003#821248, @chasemp wrote: > There is a "Fact" app that is pretty young, but it may make more sense to put our time into th... [18:09:01] 3Phabricator: evaluate Phabricator's slowvote as a Loomio replacement for WMF - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76667#821710 (10JKrauska) Daniel: Excellent refocusing! I think it would be a great improvement to add wikimediafoundation.org and office.wikimedia.org BOTH in to the SUL sphere. (how do we get t... [18:20:49] 3Phabricator: evaluate Phabricator's slowvote as a Loomio replacement for WMF - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76667#821729 (10Krenair) I think first we'd have to make them public and allow anyone to sign up for accounts there. [18:57:02] 3Phabricator: Schedule RT migration for Dec 12th 2014 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76773#821782 (10Qgil) p:5Unbreak!>3High After some more discussions: * Not on Friday 12, probablky the following week. * Chase is working on a more precise time estimation of the migration, especially how long Phabric... [18:58:56] 3Phabricator, Project-Management: Deploy Phabricator Sprint Extension in Production - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1322#821784 (10KLans_WMF) [19:08:39] 3Phabricator, Project-Management: Deploy Phabricator Sprint Extension in Production - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1322#821818 (10MZMcBride) [19:12:15] 3WMF-Design, Project-Management: Migration of the Design team to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T832#13970 (10Jaredzimmerman-WMF) [19:15:11] 3Phabricator: Top bar of Phabricator should signify to users they are interacting with a Wikimedia project space - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T69#821849 (10Jaredzimmerman-WMF) Thanks for collecting examples of what not to do ;) [19:16:57] <^d> chasemp: So, do you think we should go ahead and import things with that setting disabled for now? [19:17:20] maybe do a few and see what happens, should be ok tho [19:17:33] <^d> What's the plan for turning that back on though. The double-notification thing will be annoying. [19:18:21] 3Engineering-Community, Code-Review: Plan to migrate code review from Gerrit to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T18#821875 (10MZMcBride) [19:18:48] I have no plan :) [19:18:54] other than it will have to stay off for now [19:18:56] 3Code-Review: Preserve code review history - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T617#821879 (10MZMcBride) [19:18:59] no help for it [19:19:06] <^d> Is there a user preference for Audit/Diffusion prefs? [19:19:18] <^d> I thought I heard yes on #phabricator yesterday but don't see them [19:20:01] not that I know of for this [19:20:16] <^d> I'm going to turn audit on for admins-only for a minute to check [19:20:26] feed / notification / herald seem like they are ok to be disabled for now [19:20:31] I mean, feed ok it would confuse ppl [19:20:37] notification it's not the primary source of anything [19:20:44] herald it's not available now anyway [19:21:56] <^d> Hmm. [19:22:13] 3Code-Review: Proof of concept of code review in Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T560#821894 (10MZMcBride) [19:22:19] 3Engineering-Community, Code-Review: Define main tasks (epics) for code review in Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T584#821895 (10MZMcBride) [19:22:42] 3Code-Review: Inherited settings and access control for code repositories - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T184#821897 (10MZMcBride) [19:22:47] 3Code-Review: Define a process to import and create repositories - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1009#821899 (10MZMcBride) [19:22:51] 3Code-Review: Identify Arcanist showstoppers for wikimedians - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T597#821900 (10MZMcBride) [19:23:16] 3Code-Review: Align Wikimedia and Phabricator code review processes - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T167#821904 (10MZMcBride) [19:23:34] <^d> I'm going to try 2 repos. I have a theory. [19:23:58] 3Code-Review: Revise phabricator.wikimedia.org service level - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76446#821905 (10MZMcBride) [19:24:05] 3Continuous-Integration, Code-Review: Connect Differential code review with continuous integration - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T31#821908 (10MZMcBride) [19:24:06] if you think you can fly, always jump from the ground first :) [19:29:11] <^d> whoops, not how you test. [19:32:22] <^d> I didn't get an e-mail when I committed something to gerrit. [19:35:55] <^d> chasemp: Well *that* was annoying. [19:36:03] <^d> Created repo with notify disabled. [19:36:06] <^d> Enabled notify. [19:36:11] <^d> Pushed a commit through gerrit [19:36:16] <^d> Got e-mails for every commit. [19:36:26] <^d> /Every historical commit/ [19:39:50] lol [19:42:48] <^d> chasemp: We have an MTA worker that's failing a lot. [19:45:28] <^d> I wonder if we could just set the "A commit is created." preference to "don't notify" for every user. [19:53:33] ^d: that's....a bug I would think [19:53:42] and maybe? [20:03:24] <^d> I'm importing all MW extensions now. [20:03:26] 3Engineering-Community, Analytics-Tech-community-metrics, Phabricator: Monthly report of total / active Phabricator users - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1003#822392 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [20:03:31] <^d> With notifications turned off for now [20:04:38] <^d> James_F: ^ [20:04:53] ^d: Awesome. Thank you! [20:14:41] <^d> {{done}}. It'll take awhile to finish up around the edges (200k+ commits to parse), but the work's done for that. [20:18:58] <^d> chasemp: Is this a problem? https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/daemon/task/2707616/ [20:23:32] "Hi GerardM, ...please verify your email" [20:23:35] my understanding is [20:23:38] that email is bogus [20:23:52] assuming it stops at max failures [20:23:57] I think is no big deal [20:24:01] but...that's a lot of max failures [20:26:08] <^d> Is it bogus as in like "no such recipient" or "that's not even a properly-formatted email?" [20:40:44] <^d> chasemp: We just discovered that any user can cancel an individual queued phab daemon task. [20:41:00] <^d> That seems not good? Should we report that? [20:42:37] 3Phabricator.org: user preview cards do not work consistantly - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76906 (10Jaredzimmerman-WMF) 3NEW p:3Triage [20:45:11] 3Phabricator: evaluate Phabricator's slowvote as a Loomio replacement for WMF - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76667#822538 (10JKrauska) [20:47:08] Yeah, I think so, can you? Have to step away for a few. That is a hmmm to me [20:48:13] Bogus as in they put in a wrong email and we removed the account I believe [20:48:37] So they could reregister [20:55:37] <^d> I poked #phabricator but response. [20:55:41] <^d> I'll log a task if not. [21:16:11] facebook.com [21:55:05] 3Phabricator: Sticky filters - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76913#822675 (10Jdlrobson) [22:09:10] FB is resorting to spamming IRC channels? [22:09:25] 3Phabricator: Sticky filters - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76913#822688 (10valhallasw) Yes (more or less). Via Filter->Advanced Filter, you can filter on 'Not in Projects: Patch-for-review', and the URL will change to https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/board/67/query/dXNoGwi5wbg1/ , which you can t... [22:33:16] 3Phabricator: Convert Bugzilla's "Bug NNNNN" links to "TNNNNN" links in Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T687#822730 (10Gryllida) [23:18:11] 3Phabricator: Convert Bugzilla's "Bug NNNNN" links to "TNNNNN" links in Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T687#822815 (10Tgr) [23:22:00] 3Phabricator: evaluate Phabricator's slowvote as a Loomio replacement for WMF - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76667#822823 (10MZMcBride) [23:24:43] 3Phabricator: evaluate Phabricator's slowvote as a Loomio replacement for WMF - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76667#822829 (10MZMcBride) >>! In T76667#822538, @JKrauska wrote: > SUL doesn't work with limited scope/rights? Private (office.wikimedia.org) and fishbowl (wikimediafoundation.org) wikis were inte... [23:25:47] 3Phabricator: Sticky filters - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76913#822830 (10MZMcBride) [23:34:55] 3Phabricator.org: Phabricator need structured way of relating non-blocking tasks to each other similar to Bugzilla's "See also" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76101#822839 (10MZMcBride)