[00:17:31] <wikibugs2>	 3Project-Management: Migration of Growth team Trello boards to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1247 (10Mattflaschen) 3NEW p:3Normal
[00:19:35] <wikibugs2>	 3Project-Management: Migration of Growth team Trello boards to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1247#21553 (10Mattflaschen)
[00:40:15] <wikibugs2>	 3Bugzilla-Migration: Default upload visibility should be Public (No Login Required) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1248 (10Mattflaschen) 3NEW p:3High
[00:40:50] <wikibugs2>	 3Bugzilla-Migration: Default upload visibility should be "Public (No Login Required)" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1248#21555 (10Mattflaschen)
[00:52:09] <wikibugs2>	 3Phabricator.org: pholio/new/ requires drag and drop - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T634#21564 (10Mattflaschen)
[00:52:14] <wikibugs2>	 3Bugzilla-Migration: Switch off Bingle/Bugello service when replacing Bugzilla by Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211#21565 (10Aklapper)
[00:53:12] <wikibugs2>	 3Phabricator.org: pholio/new/ requires drag and drop - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T634#10366 (10Mattflaschen)
[00:53:49] <wikibugs2>	 3Phabricator.org: pholio/new/ requires drag and drop - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T634#10366 (10Mattflaschen)
[01:18:53] <wikibugs2>	 3Phabricator.org: Batch field modification is not obvious for maniphest tasks on desktop, and not possible on mobile - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1171#21569 (10Aklapper)
[01:22:14] <wikibugs2>	 3Bugzilla-Migration: Send two email notifications to active Bugzilla users asking them to join Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T618#21571 (10Aklapper) p:5Normal>3High >>! In T618#20042, @Qgil wrote: > What about sending the second email during Thursday 13 Nov (or Friday 14 00:30 UTC if you wi...
[01:26:25] <wikibugs2>	 3Bugzilla-Migration: Default upload visibility should be "Public (No Login Required)" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1248#21573 (10Aklapper) /me wondering why this is set to high priority?  > (or changing visibility of an existing file to non-public)  For the records, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabric...
[08:20:11] <wikibugs2>	 3Bugzilla-Migration: Default upload visibility should be "Public (No Login Required)" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1248#21579 (10Qgil) Test uploading F783 right here.  {F783}
[08:33:28] <wikibugs2>	 3Bugzilla-Migration: Default upload visibility should be "Public (No Login Required)" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1248#21580 (10Qgil) p:5High>3Normal First I wanted to check whether the files created via drag&drop are public, and they are. Then I checked the files at bugzillapreview, and they are al...
[08:33:48] <wikibugs2>	 3Phabricator.org: Default upload visibility should be "Public (No Login Required)" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1248#21582 (10Qgil)
[09:21:21] <wikibugs2>	 3Project-Management: Goal: The majority of WMF developer teams and sprints have moved to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T825#21590 (10Qgil)
[09:21:32] <wikibugs2>	 3Project-Management: Migrate Trello data to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T36#21591 (10Qgil)
[12:04:10] <qgil>	 andre__, don't hate me for the last calendar invitation I've sent you (IRC office hour at midnight)
[12:04:20] <qgil>	 then again, you're always active here on midnight
[12:09:48] <andre__>	 No problem. I can always go out after 1AM. ;)
[12:22:07] <qgil>	 :D
[13:20:02] <wikibugs2>	 3Bugzilla-Migration: Set up redirects from old bugzilla.wikimedia.org URLs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T40#21604 (10Aklapper)
[13:20:38] <wikibugs2>	 3Bugzilla-Migration: Set up redirects from old bugzilla.wikimedia.org URLs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T40#601 (10Aklapper) (I replaced redirects to Fact by Report in the description as Fact is a 404 on our instance.)
[13:28:46] <wikibugs2>	 3Bugzilla-Migration: Set up redirects from old bugzilla.wikimedia.org URLs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T40#21606 (10Aklapper)
[13:32:03] <qgil>	 andre__, I see that you are working on https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T40 -- wouldn't it be better to define everything in that wiki section that I proposed yesterday, just like we did with the migration script details?
[13:32:13] <andre__>	 qgil, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/versus_Bugzilla#Bugzilla_URLs_and_their_redirects
[13:32:36] <andre__>	 if I can clarify the task description, I do that. One does not exclude the other :)
[13:33:21] <qgil>	 andre__, funny, I checked that page 3 minutes ago :)
[13:33:51] <andre__>	 it's a "wiki". I've been told it means "fast" in some language. ;)
[13:40:39] <wikibugs2>	 3RT-Migration: Decide which task statuses we want to have in Maniphest - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T212#21607 (10Aklapper)
[13:41:41] <qgil>	 andre__, is the plan that users will be able to login to old-bugzilla?
[13:41:49] <qgil>	 with their old credentials
[13:47:18] <wikibugs2>	 3Bugzilla-Migration: Testing Phabricator after the Bugzilla migration, before reopening - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1244#21610 (10Qgil)
[13:48:38] <qgil>	 My reason to ask is whether users will be able to get their votes and saved searches after the migration; maybe they don't even need to log in to retrieve that
[13:51:28] <andre__>	 I'm very very sure that you can still log in. Let me check locally after changing my httpd.conf again to be able to reach my Bugzilla instead of Phab :)
[13:51:39] <andre__>	 afterwards I'll clarify https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1234 and the wikipage
[13:52:32] <andre__>	 also I realize that we do not migrate the PATCH_TO_REVIEW status of ~870 tickets in the migration script by adding that project to a ticket in Phab. Hmm hmm. Miseed that, sigh :(
[13:54:35] <qgil>	 hm...
[13:54:46] <qgil>	 I didn't think about that either
[13:54:59] <andre__>	 well, better to realize now then afterwards ;-/
[13:55:10] <andre__>	 should be still fixable
[13:59:44] <wikibugs2>	 3Bugzilla-Migration: Set up redirects from old bugzilla.wikimedia.org URLs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T40#21611 (10Qgil) > Proposing WONTFIX for this part (though I'd be really happy to be proven wrong). This also applies to Bugzilla's "saved searches" functionality as it also ends up on buglist.cgi  I...
[14:24:27] <wikibugs2>	 3Bugzilla-Migration: Restrict Bugzilla access to read-only - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1234#21629 (10Aklapper)
[14:24:36] <andre__>	 alright, all tested and ticket updated
[14:24:40] <andre__>	 now to update the docs on wiki
[14:38:02] <wikibugs2>	 3Bugzilla-Migration: Set up redirects from old bugzilla.wikimedia.org URLs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T40#21633 (10Aklapper)
[14:55:09] <qgil>	 Thank you andre__ that list is useful.
[15:02:53] <wikibugs2>	 3Bugzilla-Migration: Set up redirects from old bugzilla.wikimedia.org URLs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T40#21644 (10Aklapper) >>! In T40#21611, @Qgil wrote: > Also users should be able to log in to old-bugzilla while it exists, right?  Yes. Clarified that in T1234 and on the wiki.
[15:40:57] <wikibugs2>	 3Bugzilla-Migration: Document all the steps that need to be done during the Bugzilla migration - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T535#21646 (10chasemp) >>! In T535#21424, @Qgil wrote: > Moving this question here: >  >>>! In T473#21273, @Qgil wrote: >> @chasemp, must Phabricator be down at 00:30 UTC when we sta...
[15:41:56] <chasemp>	 andre__bbl: no? https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/diffusion/PHTOOLS/browse/master/bugzilla_create.py;0fc190dc9980e5f5c883cae358804e97eb280506$132-133
[15:49:39] <wikibugs2>	 3Bugzilla-Migration: Document all the steps that need to be done during the Bugzilla migration - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T535#21647 (10Qgil) Makes total sense, thank you.
[15:57:40] <greg-g>	 qgil: when is the go/no-go meeting? I dont see it on my calendar
[16:04:57] <chasemp>	 hour and a half I think?
[16:06:28] <wikibugs2>	 3Bugzilla-Migration: Pull Phabricator during the Bugzilla migration - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1235#21655 (10chasemp)
[16:10:44] <andre__>	 chasemp: ah, cool! So this didn't work with T20750~bz50750 because at some point we renamed that to "Patch-For-Review" in Phab
[16:10:58] <andre__>	 chasemp: want me to put a one-liner in Gerrit or will you change that?
[16:11:10] <chasemp>	 feel free
[16:12:48] <wikibugs2>	 3Bugzilla-Migration, RT-Migration: Set up permissions for Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T39#21656 (10chasemp) This task has changed somewhat in scope as time as gone on, which probably makes it hard to follow.  For RT we have simplified our use-case and have gone the route of #wmf-nda .  Any on...
[16:19:41] <andre__>	 done: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/172757
[16:24:53] <andre__>	 hmm. verified doesn't behave as expected in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/diffusion/PHTOOLS/browse/master/bugzilla_create.py;0fc190dc9980e5f5c883cae358804e97eb280506$135-136
[16:25:01] <andre__>	 e.g. https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50150 and https://bugzillapreview.wmflabs.org/T20150
[16:25:15] <andre__>	 ("BZ keywords ->Phab projects" works though)
[16:25:50] <andre__>	 oh. maybe it's missing a .lower()  call?
[16:27:01] <chasemp>	 yes "status": "VERIFIED"
[16:27:36] <chasemp>	 I'll add it, no big deal
[16:27:55] <andre__>	 in case I'm right: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/172760
[16:28:03] <andre__>	 heh :)
[16:29:23] <chasemp>	 done
[16:33:53] <greg-g>	 chasemp: so 10am Pacific?
[16:34:18] <chasemp>	 I want to say yes :)
[16:34:30] <greg-g>	 :/ I can't attend, I have an interview at that time
[16:35:04] <chasemp>	 I will pretend to have a better beard for your sake at the time of
[16:35:10] <greg-g>	 ah, I wasn't invited, so, oh well :) enjoy!
[16:35:16] <greg-g>	 sweet, thanks!
[16:35:50] <chasemp>	 unrelated, andre__ just asked this "at HEAD I think legalpad no longer shows "prototype" but still shows beta here http://phabricator.org/applications/"
[16:35:53] <chasemp>	 interesting eh?
[16:36:29] <greg-g>	 :)
[16:38:13] <chasemp>	 andre__: could you maybe respond to https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T39#21656
[16:38:15] <chasemp>	 when you get a momenbt
[16:38:18] <chasemp>	 moment even
[16:39:14] <andre__>	 haha
[16:39:26] <andre__>	 uh yeah
[17:01:13] <wikibugs2>	 3Bugzilla-Migration: Upstream Bugzilla XML-RPC API issue creates invalid XML & our workaround hack damages attachments - hence apply our hack only on text comment output - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T815#21659 (10chasemp) >>! In T815#21264, @Dzahn wrote: >>>! In T815#20734, @Qgil wrote: >> This task needs...
[17:02:58] <wikibugs2>	 3Bugzilla-Migration: Default Assigned To lists in Bugzilla must be set up in Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T496#21661 (10chasemp) >>! In T496#21306, @Qgil wrote: > Is this task resolved, then? I mean, does this mean that the script will not assign these tasks to anybody in Phabricator?  yes and...
[17:03:16] <wikibugs2>	 3Bugzilla-Migration: Default Assigned To lists in Bugzilla must be set up in Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T496#21662 (10chasemp) a:5chasemp>3Aklapper
[17:04:45] <wikibugs2>	 3Bugzilla-Migration: Switch off Bingle/Bugello service when replacing Bugzilla by Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211#21663 (10Awjrichards) @Qgil @Aklapper all sounds good, thanks!
[17:05:12] <wikibugs2>	 3Bugzilla-Migration: Redirect phabricator.wikimedia.org to maintenance page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1235#21664 (10chasemp)
[17:05:46] <wikibugs2>	 3RT-Migration, Bugzilla-Migration: Check that there is no "bzimport changed the edit policy of this Task..." during the Bugzilla and RT migrations - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1243#21666 (10chasemp) p:5Normal>3High a:3chasemp
[17:34:41] <wikibugs2>	 3Bugzilla-Migration, RT-Migration: Set up permissions for Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T39#21673 (10Aklapper) This would simplify things indeed. For the records, everybody in Bugzilla's Security group has an NDA (and two members are not staff). Happy to go that route if @csteipp is fine with t...
[17:41:59] <qgil>	 greg-g, just sent invitation, didn't know you wanted join, sorry
[17:43:43] <wikibugs2>	 3Bugzilla-Migration: Default Assigned To lists in Bugzilla must be set up in Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T496#21674 (10Aklapper) I stll need to check if all Herald rules are in place to send update mail to the lists defined in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/mailinglists/ for the projects d...
[17:44:58] <wikibugs2>	 3Bugzilla-Migration: Default Assigned To lists in Bugzilla must be set up for CC as Herald rules in Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T496#21675 (10Aklapper)
[17:46:15] <qgil>	 greg-g, ah, nevermind
[17:51:07] <greg-g>	 no worries :) I thought I was for some reason, but since not, no worries :)
[17:53:15] <qgil>	 twentyafterfour, around?
[17:56:45] <wikibugs2>	 3Bugzilla-Migration: Disable incoming email in phabricator.wikimedia.org right before the migration - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1255 (10Qgil) 3NEW p:3Normal a:3chasemp
[18:02:14] <twentyafterfour>	 qgil: I'm here now...
[18:02:44] <qgil>	 ok, meeting  :)
[19:31:01] <wikibugs2>	 3Code-Review: Make @catrope an administrator in Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T836#21716 (10Chad) We should just make a group called "Repository Admins" or somesuch that gets admin powers to these applications. Easily done.
[19:35:13] <wikibugs2>	 3Bugzilla-Migration, RT-Migration: Set up permissions for Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T39#21717 (10csteipp) >>! In T39#21656, @chasemp wrote: > It seems like the most straight forward approach would be to make this same group able to view Security tickets from BZ if @aklapper and @csteipp thi...
[20:36:02] <greg-g>	 so... are we doing it? :)
[20:45:43] <wikibugs2>	 3Bugzilla-Migration, RT-Migration: Set up permissions for Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T39#21719 (10chasemp) Nope, no technical limits that I know of.  For awhile the conversation of whether to merge the group of people who have signed NDA's for access to operations tickets and the group of pe...
[20:47:15] <wikibugs2>	 3Code-Review: Make @catrope an administrator in Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T836#21721 (10chasemp)
[20:48:00] <chasemp>	 greg-g: it's a go as I understand it w/ a pending Damon wants to talk to a few people on their specific opposition points, but no hard blockers yet and he will sync w/ quim
[20:48:03] <chasemp>	 as I understand it
[20:52:28] * greg-g nods
[20:57:17] <chasemp>	 soon your dupe issue reign of terror will be over
[21:27:29] <greg-g>	 chasemp: :P
[21:27:43] <greg-g>	 it's not mine! it's all MW Core's fault!
[21:27:51] <greg-g>	 (and really, legoktm, since he wrote the script)
[21:28:01] <wikibugs2>	 3Phabricator.org: Batch field modification is not obvious for maniphest tasks on desktop, and not possible on mobile - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1171#21727 (10Jaredzimmerman-WMF) @aklapper, doesn't matter if the controls are visible, if there is no way to multi-select on a touch device… currently it req...
[22:08:15] <wikibugs2>	 3Project-Management, Phabricator.org: Scrum of scrums dependency matrix mapping equivalent in phabricator? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T842#21737 (10Qgil)
[22:08:34] <wikibugs2>	 3Project-Management, Phabricator.org: Scrum of scrums dependency matrix mapping equivalent in phabricator? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T842#21740 (10Qgil)
[22:17:00] <wikibugs2>	 3Phabricator.org: Batch field modification is not obvious for maniphest tasks on desktop, and not possible on mobile - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1171#21748 (10Aklapper) I see, you refer to the "Shift-Click to Select Tasks". So the problem is rather that batch editing is not possible on touch devices. I'...
[22:17:26] <wikibugs2>	 3Phabricator.org: Batch Task Editing not possible on touch devices (cannot select several tasks) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1171#21751 (10Aklapper)
[22:30:58] <wikibugs2>	 3Phabricator.org: Batch Task Editing not possible on touch devices (cannot select several tasks) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1171#21756 (10Jaredzimmerman-WMF) @aklapper, also the interface isn't even shown on most mobile devices, so really its both issues.
[23:31:40] <wikibugs2>	 3Phabricator.org: Batch Task Editing not possible on touch devices (cannot select several tasks) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1171#21768 (10Qgil) I'd assume that they will show the Batch Edit button in mobile when you can actually batch edit on mobile. The fact that the button is not shown now is not a b...