[00:01:56] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Tim Starling: Introduce includes/utils directory [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93022 
[00:06:02] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Tim Starling: "* PS2: rebase" [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93022 (owner: 10Tim Starling)
[02:22:32] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Restored) 10Parent5446: Changed FOR UPDATE handling in Postgresql [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/69767 (owner: 10Parent5446)
[02:22:48] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Parent5446: "This is definitely not the way to fix it. Code should not have to worry about the internals of the Database class." [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/68143 (owner: 10MrFredH)
[02:26:37] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Parent5446: "(1 comment)" [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/79041 (owner: 10Zsaigol)
[02:28:47] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Parent5446: "(3 comments)" [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93323 (owner: 10Mayankmadan)
[02:34:04] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Gnosygnu: v0.11.0.0 [xowa] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93416 
[02:34:51] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Gnosygnu: [C: 032 V: 032] "approving own commit" [xowa] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93416 (owner: 10Gnosygnu)
[03:02:08] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Hoo man: "Well, I haven't tested this with CentralAuth... It will probably show the new selector, but the new fields will be dysfunctional." [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/79041 (owner: 10Zsaigol)
[05:16:05] <YuviPanda>	 ori-l: hmm, grrrit-wm might be dead again
[05:16:06] * YuviPanda  looks

[05:16:20] <ori-l>	 it hadn't actually died
[05:16:27] <ori-l>	 it was the gerrit -> redis stream in the end
[05:16:48] <YuviPanda>	 ah, right
[05:18:40] <YuviPanda>	 yeah, it's dead again
[05:22:42] <YuviPanda>	 okay, back
[05:57:04] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Parent5446: "(1 comment)" [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93323 (owner: 10Mayankmadan)
[06:07:57] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Tim Starling: Introduce WebRequest::getProtocol() [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93425 
[06:09:16] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Introduce WebRequest::getProtocol() [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93425 (owner: 10Tim Starling)
[06:17:06] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Do not run tests for Wikibase Query and QueryEngine [integration/zuul-config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93428 
[07:03:22] <bitgeeky>	 hello i am a newbie here and would like to start contributing to wikimedia , i have good coding skills in Python , from where can i get started ?
[07:08:53] <gicode>	 bitgeeky: Might be useful to read these https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_hub https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_become_a_MediaWiki_hacker
[07:09:36] <gicode>	 bitgeeky: You could also peruse bugzilla for things to fix.
[07:09:54] <gicode>	 bitgeeky: People with more useful suggestions will be on in several hours
[07:10:28] <gicode>	 bitgeeky: "more useful" in the sense that my suggestions probably aren't that useful
[07:10:51] <gicode>	 bitgeeky: they are a place to start at least if you really aren't sure though
[07:12:07] <bitgeeky>	 ok thanks gicode , i will go through the links , but does wikimedia has works related to Python , since on most of the webpages php is said to be the language used 
[08:08:45] <YuviPanda>	 ori-l: send me the etherpadlink when you have a break in talking
[08:21:58] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Reedy: Revert "Revert "Revert "Add new recentchanges field rc_source to replace rc_type""" [core] (wmf/1.23wmf2) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93117 (owner: 10Aude)
[08:24:32] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Reedy: [C: 032 V: 032] Revert "Add new recentchanges field rc_source to replace rc_type" [core] (wmf/1.23wmf2) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93117 (owner: 10Aude)
[08:32:48] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS6) 10Mayankmadan: Add ability to show the time taken by update.php [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93323 
[08:33:06] <mayankmadan>	 the bot is working now!! great
[08:36:05] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Reedy: "Ok, so this one shouldn't be needed now (schema changes should really be all done now), but I merged and deployed it into 1.23wmf2 as a sa" [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93110 (owner: 10Aude)
[08:48:47] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Hashar: "Which Github project are you depending on? if those extensions are landing on Wikimedia production we need to identify them and most proba" [integration/zuul-config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93428 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[08:52:22] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Hashar: Add jenkins tests for Thanks extension [integration/jenkins-job-builder-config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93162 (owner: 10Addshore)
[08:52:27] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Hashar: [C: 032] Thanks tests now depends on Echo extension [integration/jenkins-job-builder-config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93162 (owner: 10Addshore)
[08:52:39] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Hashar: "deployed" [integration/jenkins-job-builder-config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93162 (owner: 10Addshore)
[08:53:02] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Thanks tests now depends on Echo extension [integration/jenkins-job-builder-config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93162 (owner: 10Addshore)
[08:54:07] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Hashar: unit tests for Thanks extension [integration/zuul-config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93435 
[08:54:22] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Hashar: "Tests triggered by Zuul with https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93435" [integration/jenkins-job-builder-config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93162 (owner: 10Addshore)
[08:54:42] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Hashar: [C: 032] unit tests for Thanks extension [integration/zuul-config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93435 (owner: 10Hashar)
[08:54:48] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: unit tests for Thanks extension [integration/zuul-config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93435 (owner: 10Hashar)
[08:56:09] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Restored) 10Hashar: Jenkins job validation (DO NOT SUBMIT) `. Change-Id: I76a3d83200e4333303b8dc40b130e2237bbcd627 [extensions/Thanks] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/55136 (owner: 10Hashar)
[08:56:15] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Hashar: Jenkins job validation (DO NOT SUBMIT) `. Change-Id: I76a3d83200e4333303b8dc40b130e2237bbcd627 [extensions/Thanks] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/55136 
[08:56:18] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS4) 10Hashar: Jenkins job validation (DO NOT SUBMIT) [extensions/Thanks] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/55136 
[08:56:56] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Abandoned) 10Hashar: Jenkins job validation (DO NOT SUBMIT) [extensions/Thanks] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/55136 (owner: 10Hashar)
[09:07:57] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Siebrand: [C: 032] Fix pluralization (is/are) [extensions/BetaFeatures] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93414 (owner: 10Shirayuki)
[09:08:03] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Fix pluralization (is/are) [extensions/BetaFeatures] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93414 (owner: 10Shirayuki)
[09:14:42] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Zfilipin: WIP moving code to the gem [selenium] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93437 
[09:17:27] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Zfilipin: Bump patch version [selenium] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93438 
[09:25:16] <addshore>	 thanks hashar =]
[09:27:06] <hashar>	 addshore: :]
[09:28:24] <hashar>	 addshore: had to add the trigger in Zuul as well
[09:28:42] <addshore>	 yep realized I forgot that when I saw the above [=
[09:30:09] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Siebrand: Update formatting [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93440 
[10:03:29] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Siebrand: Address PHP CodeSniffer errors and warnings [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93442 
[10:24:22] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Zfilipin: Introduce new variable that points to the variable that holds the password [selenium] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93443 
[10:24:23] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Zfilipin: Bump patch version [selenium] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93444 
[10:35:04] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Zfilipin: Introduce new variable that points to the variable that holds the password [selenium] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93443 
[10:44:49] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Siebrand: Address PHP CodeSniffer errors and warnings [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93442 
[10:45:08] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Pastakhov: add T_PRINT operator and PHP constants [extensions/Foxway] (develop) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93446 
[10:45:57] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Siebrand: "Updated in Autoloader.php because some PHPCS issues surfaced (broke 2 lines and make a var for which visibility had not been declared publ" [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93442 (owner: 10Siebrand)
[10:50:55] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Pastakhov: add T_PRINT operator and PHP constants [extensions/Foxway] (develop) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93446 
[10:51:15] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Pastakhov: [C: 032] add T_PRINT operator and PHP constants [extensions/Foxway] (develop) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93446 (owner: 10Pastakhov)
[10:51:23] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: add T_PRINT operator and PHP constants [extensions/Foxway] (develop) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93446 (owner: 10Pastakhov)
[10:54:58] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Siebrand: Disable rule Squiz.WhiteSpace.OperatorSpacing [tools/codesniffer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93450 
[11:01:22] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Abandoned) 10Aude: Revert "Revert "Revert "Add new recentchanges field rc_source to replace rc_type""" [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93110 (owner: 10Aude)
[11:05:42] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Matthias Mullie: (bug 56130) Icons need tooltips [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93451 
[11:19:34] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Hashar: wmf: soften requirements [integration/zuul] (labs) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93452 
[11:20:03] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Hashar: [C: 032 V: 032] wmf: soften requirements [integration/zuul] (labs) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93452 (owner: 10Hashar)
[11:22:25] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Matthias Mullie: (bug 56335) Timestamp jumps to the left on hover [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93453 
[11:39:21] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Parent5446: [C: 04-1] "(1 comment)" [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93323 (owner: 10Mayankmadan)
[11:42:18] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Zfilipin: WIP moving code to the gem [qa/browsertests] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93456 
[13:01:31] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Mayankmadan: "(1 comment)" [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93323 (owner: 10Mayankmadan)
[13:04:40] <mayankmadan>	 Hi MatmaRex
[13:08:43] <MatmaRex>	 hi mayankmadan
[13:08:56] <MatmaRex>	 (i'm only here for a short while)
[13:17:42] <AzaToth>	 Is it a known issue https://foo.com/bar{{#if:{{{foo|bar}}}|#foo}} doesn't work?
[13:18:06] <AzaToth>	 #foo here renders as 1. foo on a new line under the link
[13:18:24] <AzaToth>	 have no idea what to search for in the bugzilla
[13:20:26] <mayankmadan>	 MatmaRex: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93323
[13:20:38] <mayankmadan>	 Will you have a look at this
[13:21:00] <MatmaRex>	 AzaToth: yes, i think
[13:21:03] <MatmaRex>	 mayankmadan: later
[13:21:14] <mayankmadan>	 OK
[13:21:15] <MatmaRex>	 AzaToth: you can wrap it in <nowiki> or something
[13:21:17] <MatmaRex>	 (the #)
[13:21:56] <AzaToth>	 MatmaRex: can't find any bug reports
[13:22:27] <AzaToth>	 it seems to think the #foo is on a new line
[13:22:31] <MatmaRex>	 AzaToth: they're probably wontfixed
[13:22:38] <MatmaRex>	 AzaToth: i know i encountered this behavior in the past
[13:22:46] <MatmaRex>	 AzaToth: file one, worst case it'll get duped :P
[13:22:55] <AzaToth>	 https://foo.com/bar{{#if:{{{foo|bar}}}|<nowiki>#</nowiki>foo}} doesn't work
[13:23:10] <AzaToth>	 it renders #foo outside the link
[13:23:13] <MatmaRex>	 mayankmadan: you really should make sure your code adheres to out code conventions :( such as having spaces within parentheses and around operators
[13:23:25] <AzaToth>	 and last foo here are meant to be {{{foo|}}}
[13:23:31] <MatmaRex>	 AzaToth: file a bug
[13:23:37] <MatmaRex>	 sorry guys, i'm off
[13:23:38] <MatmaRex>	 see ya
[14:02:06] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Matthias Mullie: Fold history config into FlowActions [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92842 
[14:02:08] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Matthias Mullie: Update RecentChanges to use history i18n [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92903 
[14:06:20] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Addshore: [C: 031] "(1 comment)" [extensions/Thanks] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93161 (owner: 10Addshore)
[14:06:26] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Addshore: Add really basic API tests [extensions/Thanks] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93161 (owner: 10Addshore)
[14:07:16] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Addshore: "Per the API tests in the previous patchset, if they get merged and the tests pass with this patch everything should still be working :)" [extensions/Thanks] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93316 (owner: 10Addshore)
[14:15:35] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Abandoned) 10Matthias Mullie: WIP - Add PostBlock (similar to TopicBlock) [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/90902 (owner: 10Matthias Mullie)
[14:15:57] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Cmcmahon: Bump patch version [selenium] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93444 (owner: 10Zfilipin)
[14:17:01] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Cmcmahon: [C: 032] "maintenance" [selenium] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93444 (owner: 10Zfilipin)
[14:17:47] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Cmcmahon: [C: 032] "maintenance" [selenium] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93443 (owner: 10Zfilipin)
[14:18:34] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Cmcmahon: [C: 032] "maintenance" [selenium] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93438 (owner: 10Zfilipin)
[14:18:36] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Bump patch version [selenium] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93444 (owner: 10Zfilipin)
[14:18:37] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Introduce new variable that points to the variable that holds the password [selenium] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93443 (owner: 10Zfilipin)
[14:18:38] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Bump patch version [selenium] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93438 (owner: 10Zfilipin)
[14:28:23] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Zfilipin: Updated Ruby gems [qa/browsertests] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93469 
[14:30:31] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Zfilipin: Updated Ruby gems [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93470 
[14:31:24] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Parent5446: "(1 comment)" [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93323 (owner: 10Mayankmadan)
[14:32:20] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Cmcmahon: [C: 032] "maintenance" [qa/browsertests] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93469 (owner: 10Zfilipin)
[14:32:47] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Cmcmahon: [V: 032] "maintenance" [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93470 (owner: 10Zfilipin)
[14:35:44] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS4) 10Matthias Mullie: Refactor information collection for i18n to dedicated class [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/91306 (owner: 10EBernhardson)
[14:36:08] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Matthias Mullie: "(2 comments)" [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/91306 (owner: 10EBernhardson)
[14:36:26] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Matthias Mullie: [C: 032] Refactor information collection for i18n to dedicated class [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/91306 (owner: 10EBernhardson)
[14:37:04] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Refactor information collection for i18n to dedicated class [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/91306 (owner: 10EBernhardson)
[14:39:37] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Cmcmahon: Updated Ruby gems [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93470 (owner: 10Zfilipin)
[14:39:49] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Cmcmahon: [C: 032] "maintenance" [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93470 (owner: 10Zfilipin)
[14:45:01] <AzaToth>	 hashar: that makes no sense...
[14:45:18] <hashar>	 AzaToth: yup :(
[14:45:28] <hashar>	 AzaToth: another build I triggered a minute ago https://integration.wikimedia.org/ci/job/operations-debs-jenkins-debian-glue-debian-glue/4/
[14:45:34] <hashar>	 https://integration.wikimedia.org/ci/job/operations-debs-jenkins-debian-glue-debian-glue/4/artifact/piuparts.txt
[14:46:02] <hashar>	 that must be upstream wrapper being confused at some point
[14:46:09] <hashar>	 it does not pass the .deb to dpkg --info :/
[14:46:56] <AzaToth>	 well, piuparts_wrapper seems to execute piuparts correctly
[14:46:57] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Parent5446: [C: 04-1] "(1 comment)" [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93323 (owner: 10Mayankmadan)
[14:47:56] <AzaToth>	 can try set --log-level=dump
[14:48:00] <AzaToth>	 hashar: ↑
[14:48:43] <hashar>	 hmm
[14:48:48] <hashar>	 that works from the command line grmbmblbl
[14:49:10] <AzaToth>	 might be some hidden character?
[14:49:23] <AzaToth>	 what works?
[14:49:26] <hashar>	 or sudo
[14:49:52] <AzaToth>	 does piuparts_wrapper work?
[14:49:59] <AzaToth>	 or the generated cmd?
[14:50:08] <AzaToth>	 or --loglevel=dump?
[14:50:24] <AzaToth>	 or something else?'
[14:50:56] <AzaToth>	 hashar: ?
[14:51:30] <hashar>	 yeah trying out
[14:51:32] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Mayankmadan: "(1 comment)" [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93323 (owner: 10Mayankmadan)
[14:51:40] <hashar>	 I am looking at the job conf
[14:52:20] <AzaToth>	 hashar: still trying to figure out what "that works" pointed to
[14:52:34] <hashar>	 I copy pasted the command https://integration.wikimedia.org/ci/job/operations-debs-jenkins-debian-glue-debian-glue/4/artifact/piuparts.txt
[14:52:35] <hashar>	 as root
[14:52:37] <hashar>	 and it works :D
[14:52:39] <AzaToth>	 ok
[14:52:43] <hashar>	 well, it start piuparts
[14:52:45] <AzaToth>	 the generated cmd
[14:53:19] <hashar>	 sudo piuparts_wrapper $PWD/*.deb
[14:53:25] <hashar>	 that is what the job launch
[14:53:32] <AzaToth>	 and it works from cmdline?
[14:53:41] <hashar>	 trying
[14:53:53] <hashar>	 nop :-]
[14:54:19] <AzaToth>	 well
[14:54:24] <hashar>	 http://paste.debian.net/63927/
[14:54:26] <AzaToth>	 piuparts_wrapper is from jenkins-debian-glue-buildenv-piuparts
[14:54:55] <AzaToth>	 so it seems an update to jenkins-debian-glue fnucked it up
[14:55:20] <hashar>	 well beforehand it was complaining about /etc/piuparts/scripts not existing
[14:55:22] <hashar>	 which is fixed now
[14:55:31] <AzaToth>	 heh
[14:56:24] <hashar>	 bah $PWD is wrong
[14:56:25] <hashar>	 sudo piuparts_wrapper /mnt/jenkins-workspace/workspace/operations-debs-jenkins-debian-glue-debian-glue/*.deb :D
[14:56:42] <hashar>	 yields http://paste.debian.net/63929/
[14:59:42] <AzaToth>	 hashar: would like to try it out
[14:59:45] <AzaToth>	 from a shell
[15:00:18] <hashar>	 that is from the shell
[15:00:54] <hashar>	 using `set -x ` in the piuparts wrapper script
[15:00:59] <hashar>	 it uses the command piuparts -d precise --warn-on-leftovers-after-purge --skip-logrotatefiles-test --log-file=piuparts.txt '' --basetgz=/var/cache/pbuilder/base-precise-amd64.tgz /mnt/jenkins-workspace/workspace/operations-debs-jenkins-debian-glue-debian-glue/jenkins-debian-glue_0.7.1+0~20131104144214.4~1.gbp150fc7_all.deb
[15:01:07] <hashar>	 notice the empty string ''  after --log-file
[15:01:10] <hashar>	 that is causing the issue
[15:01:17] <hashar>	 it tries to  dpkg --info ''
[15:01:25] <AzaToth>	 yea
[15:01:51] <hashar>	 which is caused by my patch :-(((
[15:02:53] <AzaToth>	 you enclosed scriptdir in ""
[15:03:12] <hashar>	 yup
[15:03:24] <AzaToth>	 which I think is bad
[15:03:40] <hashar>	 and I can't remember why I did it
[15:04:47] <hashar>	 my pull request is https://github.com/hashar/jenkins-debian-glue/commit/08b9a5d969bd696c5711df97dd2b85a32653f0b0
[15:05:13] <hashar>	 and the quoting is made by https://github.com/hashar/jenkins-debian-glue/commit/841b4b2afa1a109cd9dcbee3411966f1f99892ed
[15:05:48] <AzaToth>	 ah
[15:06:41] <hashar>	 ahh
[15:08:54] <AzaToth>	 prolly want to do a if [ x$foo != x ]; then l=$l $foo; fo
[15:08:56] <AzaToth>	 fi
[15:09:08] <AzaToth>	 ""
[15:10:24] <AzaToth>	 or just skip it
[15:11:11] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Chad: Remove pointless pass-by-reference [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93479 
[15:17:02] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Matthias Mullie: Post topic without comment [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92454 (owner: 10EBernhardson)
[15:17:20] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Matthias Mullie: [C: 032] Post topic without comment [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92454 (owner: 10EBernhardson)
[15:17:36] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Post topic without comment [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92454 (owner: 10EBernhardson)
[15:27:06] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Matthias Mullie: Recursive function should also perform callback on initial element (usually topic title) [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93481 
[15:28:10] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Matthias Mullie: "This change is prompted by "Post topic without comment"; participants would be inaccurate as it would originally not pick up the person wh" [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93481 (owner: 10Matthias Mullie)
[15:45:30] <AzaToth>	 hashar: did it work?
[15:45:44] <hashar>	 AzaToth: I can't find how to fix it inicely :(
[15:45:49] <reza1615>	 can anyone do an enhancement bug?
[15:45:58] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Matthias Mullie: Fix editing of posts [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93485 
[15:46:25] <hashar>	 AzaToth: if you look at the bottom of https://github.com/mika/jenkins-debian-glue/blob/master/scripts/piuparts_wrapper
[15:46:28] <AzaToth>	 inicely?
[15:46:46] <hashar>	 AzaToth: scriptsdir is protected with double quotes because the space might contain a space
[15:47:01] <AzaToth>	 well, is it actually needed?
[15:47:10] <hashar>	 AzaToth: but scriptsdir might be empty and we don't want to pass an empty string. So those quotes need to be gone
[15:47:49] <hashar>	 but, line 27, whenever SCRIPTSDIR contains a space that screw up
[15:47:56] <hashar>	 ie:  SCRIPTDIR="/tmp/foo bar"
[15:48:19] <hashar>	 piuparts will be given two arguments:  '--script=/tmp/foo'  and 'bar'
[15:48:27] <hashar>	 and I can't find out how to somehow glue both arguments
[15:48:49] <hashar>	 maybe using an array
[15:49:00] <hashar>	 na
[15:53:05] <reza1615>	 I mean https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51321
[15:54:54] <hashar>	 AzaToth: got a fix :-]
[15:56:46] <AzaToth>	 ok
[15:57:02] <AzaToth>	 sing
[16:01:02] <AzaToth>	 hmm
[16:01:37] <hashar>	 AzaToth: https://github.com/mika/jenkins-debian-glue/pull/77
[16:01:49] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Matthias Mullie: Only link to history if there are changes [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93487 
[16:03:10] <AzaToth>	 looks fine
[16:06:13] <hashar>	 AzaToth: merged by upstream ( #jenkins-debian-glue )
[16:06:36] <hashar>	 and I hacked it live on the jenkins server
[16:08:34] <AzaToth>	 hashar: you know mika?
[16:08:40] <hashar>	 not personally
[16:08:47] <hashar>	 but I started hanging out in that channel
[16:08:55] <AzaToth>	 I meant you poked him/her/it :-P
[16:08:58] <hashar>	 and we did chat a bit about Zuul / Jenkins etc
[16:08:59] <AzaToth>	 10 min is quick
[16:09:17] <hashar>	 so I guess I have some kind of good karma with him
[16:09:53] <AzaToth>	 hehe
[16:11:34] <ori-l>	 Krinkle: are you aware of a weird issue causing fonts to be briefly times new roman after page visibility alters?
[16:11:45] <AzaToth>	 hashar: piuparts installation routine is really brute force ヾ
[16:12:12] <Krinkle>	 ori-l: You mean a specific portion of the page? And in Google Chrome? Yes, that's a fairly old blink/webkit bug.
[16:12:26] <AzaToth>	 tries to "dpkg -i" the packages, assumes it will fail, and then do an "apt-get -yf install"...
[16:12:40] <Krinkle>	 ori-l: been getting worse lately (both in <a> in tabs, personal tabs, and <textarea>)
[16:12:48] <ori-l>	 Krinkle: the whole page; http://i.imgur.com/ypVIfsG.png
[16:13:07] <ori-l>	 it went to normal half a second later
[16:13:12] <Krinkle>	 ori-l: Yeah
[16:13:33] <ori-l>	 does it happen on other sites, though? i've only ever seen it on wmf wikis
[16:13:43] <Krinkle>	 ori-l: I haven't been able to reliably reproduce it, but I have seen it on other sites as well (github.com, nav menu every now and then).
[16:14:33] <Krinkle>	 I think it is a browser bug, I once managed to keep it stick like that for a few minutes. I inspected it in the dev tools and there was nothing setting that. IN fact, getCSS ssaid it was the font it should be.
[16:15:05] <AzaToth>	 hashar: I assume it's soon time to add builds for all debs into jenkins-job-builder
[16:15:14] <Krinkle>	 ori-l: It also seems limited to text rendering, it didn't affect the box model (e.g. in case where the font is a different size, and the element has text underline and border, the text was completely out of bound with the text underline and border)
[16:15:28] <hashar>	 AzaToth: I tried on some, but that not always works properly.
[16:15:34] <AzaToth>	 hashar: 16:15:13 Build step 'Publish TAP Results' changed build result to UNSTABLE
[16:15:52] <hashar>	 AzaToth: as an example, debian glue always expect the remote branch 'upstream' to exist, which is not always what we are using
[16:15:54] <Krinkle>	 ori-l: I think I filed a bug at some point, but might have forgotten it. It's been a while either way.
[16:15:59] <AzaToth>	 hashar: two failed tests!
[16:16:03] <hashar>	 AzaToth: \O/
[16:16:10] <Krinkle>	 James_F also reported it a few times
[16:16:15] <AzaToth>	 whoops
[16:16:23] <AzaToth>	 https://integration.wikimedia.org/ci/job/operations-debs-jenkins-debian-glue-debian-glue/5/testReport/piuparts.tap-29/
[16:16:25] <AzaToth>	 404
[16:16:28] <hashar>	 https://integration.wikimedia.org/ci/job/operations-debs-jenkins-debian-glue-debian-glue/5/tapResults/?
[16:16:31] <ori-l>	 Krinkle: on our bugzilla or WebKit's?
[16:17:14] <AzaToth>	 hashar: I assuem 30 depends on 29
[16:17:59] <AzaToth>	 hashar: seems to be a bug in tapreport
[16:18:16] <AzaToth>	 "failed" links to https://integration.wikimedia.org/ci/job/operations-debs-jenkins-debian-glue-debian-glue/5/testReport/piuparts.tap-29/ 
[16:18:27] <AzaToth>	 and normal links to https://integration.wikimedia.org/ci/job/operations-debs-jenkins-debian-glue-debian-glue/5/tapTestReport/piuparts.tap-29/
[16:18:34] <AzaToth>	 a "tap" is missing
[16:19:04] <hashar>	 there are so many tap reports
[16:19:07] <hashar>	 I am lost :]
[16:19:13] <AzaToth>	 heh
[16:19:20] <chrismcmahon>	 ori-l: speaking of mysterious bugs in Chrome, when you have a moment I'd like to reason with you about some strange behavior calling ResourceLoader I am finding in VisualEditor and also in UploadWizard.  I have documentation and examples in place. 
[16:19:23] <AzaToth>	 not ok 29 After purging files have disappeared:  /usr/share/python/pyversions.pyc	 not owned
[16:20:40] <AzaToth>	 hashar: I do wonder why this package would touch /usr/share/python/pyversions.pyc
[16:21:00] <ori-l>	 chrismcmahon: don't have a ton of time, but sure, what's up?
[16:21:27] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Matthias Mullie: [C: 032] (bug 56132) Hide hover-over for posts that are being edited [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92492 (owner: 10Werdna)
[16:21:29] <hashar>	 AzaToth: I have no clue, that is well beyond my debian knowledge
[16:21:39] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: (bug 56132) Hide hover-over for posts that are being edited [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92492 (owner: 10Werdna)
[16:21:48] <chrismcmahon>	 ori-l: doesn't have to be immediately. https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56483 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56567 if you want to read about it. 
[16:23:04] <chrismcmahon>	 ori-l: I can't reproduce those reliably except when running tests on the Sauce Labs environment, but I suspect that something like that is the source of the "UploadWizard is unreliable" sentiment we keep hearing. 
[16:23:06] <AzaToth>	 at least you got the glue
[16:23:09] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Matthias Mullie: Fix editing of posts [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93485 
[16:23:34] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Anomie: Remove unused variable [extensions/TemplateSandbox] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93492 
[16:24:03] <chrismcmahon>	 ori-l: basic issue is dozens of calls to ResourceLoader for javascript that is entirely unnecessary in the current  context. 
[16:25:14] <hashar>	 AzaToth: I created a view with all such jobs https://integration.wikimedia.org/ci/view/Ops-DebGlue/
[16:25:58] <hashar>	 AzaToth: each of them failing for a different reason. I only added the debs that had some activities over the last month or so
[16:26:06] <ori-l>	 chrismcmahon: uploadwizard module defs are referencing files that don't exist
[16:26:14] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Matthias Mullie: Improve JS initialisation function handling. [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92490 (owner: 10Werdna)
[16:26:21] <AzaToth>	 looking
[16:26:31] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Anomie: Handle redirecting the template in EditPage form [extensions/TemplateSandbox] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93494 
[16:26:39] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Matthias Mullie: Improve JS initialisation function handling. [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92490 (owner: 10Werdna)
[16:26:41] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Improve JS initialisation function handling. [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92490 (owner: 10Werdna)
[16:26:55] <ori-l>	 chrismcmahon: there are two module definitions,  'ext.uploadWizard.campaigns' and  'ext.uploadWizard.campaign' (singular), both of which reference the same nonexistent script ('resources/ext.upwiz.campaigns.js')
[16:27:14] <hashar>	 AzaToth: we are listed at http://jenkins-debian-glue.org/contribute/ :D
[16:28:40] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS4) 10Matthias Mullie: (bug 56134) Improve JS initialisation function handling. [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92490 (owner: 10Werdna)
[16:28:42] <chrismcmahon>	 ori-l:  the other interesting aspect of this is that these dozens of load.php calls seem more or less random, they are different, or in a different order, each time I invoke VE or UW.  the consistent aspect is that there are many, many useless GETs
[16:28:53] <AzaToth>	 hashar: we?
[16:29:17] <AzaToth>	 ah
[16:29:25] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Matthias Mullie: [C: 032] (bug 56134) Improve JS initialisation function handling. [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92490 (owner: 10Werdna)
[16:29:27] <AzaToth>	 under regged installations
[16:29:37] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: (bug 56134) Improve JS initialisation function handling. [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92490 (owner: 10Werdna)
[16:29:51] <ori-l>	 chrismcmahon: btw, it's the phantom campaign (singular) module that depends on jquery.ui.button
[16:29:55] <ori-l>	 further implicating it
[16:30:02] <ori-l>	 but um, are you using debug mode?
[16:30:13] <ori-l>	 on which wiki are you seeing this?
[16:30:49] <hashar>	 AzaToth: and I added a "thank you" entry for the Wikimedia engineering  monthly report ( https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Continuous_integration/status&diff=813414&oldid=813413 )
[16:30:50] <ori-l>	 VE is pretty much exemplary with respect to module loading
[16:31:00] <AzaToth>	 hashar: the three current failed builds are when git-buildpackage fails to create upstream tar from tag/branch
[16:31:56] <AzaToth>	 either the tag hasn't been pushed, the changelog points to wrong tag, or debian/gbp.conf is wrong
[16:32:07] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS5) 10Matthias Mullie: Replying to reply sends notification to the wrong target [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92678 (owner: 10Bsitu)
[16:32:31] <AzaToth>	 hashar: kafka for example tries to build the tar from "trunk" branch
[16:32:44] <chrismcmahon>	 ori-l: both beta and test2.  note that all the URLs show debug=false.  and, I think the jquery.ui.button is just one example, the next time I run it might be something else.  I liked that example because it was easy to see the problem, but I think the problem extends beyond just a single jquery thing. 
[16:32:45] <AzaToth>	 which is probably a local branch by the maintainer
[16:32:48] <hashar>	 AzaToth: yeah that is the name of the upstream branch in the git repository
[16:32:57] <hashar>	 AzaToth: and debian/gbp.conf is configured to use it
[16:33:27] <hashar>	 AzaToth: but, the debian glue package creates an upstream branch.  It is unable to parse gbp configuration nor  gbp is creating the branch locally for us
[16:33:36] <AzaToth>	 I don't think that upstream branch exists in the repo
[16:33:42] <chrismcmahon>	 ori-l: as for VE, in Firefox it's great, in Chrome something funny is happening.  Even in regular operation VE is loading up gadget code that it should not. 
[16:34:23] <hashar>	 AzaToth: na the branch is named "trunk", and the gbp.conf file has: upstream-tree=branch  and upstream-branch=trunk . So gbp works.
[16:34:29] <AzaToth>	 hashar: operations-debs-gerrit-debian-glue I discontinued I remember
[16:34:40] <hashar>	 AzaToth: maybe there is way to ask gbp to create the local branches in the workspace before starting up
[16:34:52] <AzaToth>	 does "trunk" exists?
[16:34:57] <hashar>	 AzaToth: yes
[16:35:03] <AzaToth>	 19:51:59 fatal: Not a valid object name trunk
[16:35:11] <AzaToth>	 it doesn't see trunk
[16:35:22] <hashar>	 AzaToth: I think "git build-package import" or something uses "trunk" by default. At least with our old version of gbp
[16:35:28] <hashar>	 ah
[16:35:41] <AzaToth>	 trunk is only used in svn
[16:35:43] <hashar>	 yeah that fatal is because there is no "trunk" branch in the local working directory
[16:35:52] <AzaToth>	 :-P
[16:35:56] <hashar>	 nothing fetched it locally from origin/trunk
[16:35:58] <AzaToth>	 yea
[16:36:10] <marktraceur>	 ori-l: You can probably blame YuviPanda|away
[16:36:12] <marktraceur>	 We all do
[16:36:38] <AzaToth>	 hashar: tags and/or branches specified in gbp.conf needs to be pushed 
[16:36:50] <ori-l>	 marktraceur: i like that one module definition has two messages defined, and the other module has a dependency defined, but neither is shared by the otehr
[16:37:00] <hashar>	 AzaToth: they are in the git repository.
[16:37:14] <hashar>	 AzaToth: but debian glue does not fetch them.  It only fetches master, upstream and debian.
[16:37:15] <AzaToth>	 hmm
[16:37:21] <hashar>	 AzaToth: that is hardcoded in one of the scripts
[16:37:38] <hashar>	 ex: scripts/generate-git-snapshot:create_local_branch upstream
[16:38:02] <hashar>	 that scripts does: create_local_branch upstream  create_local_branch debian  create_local_branch pristine-tar
[16:38:20] <hashar>	 to make sure there is a local branch pointing to the remote repositories equivalents
[16:38:25] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS5) 10Legoktm: Add really basic API tests [extensions/Thanks] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93161 (owner: 10Addshore)
[16:38:30] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Matthias Mullie: Fix reply form width [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93498 
[16:38:42] <hashar>	 which is fine when you are using the gbp convention but screw up whenever one use something else
[16:38:54] <AzaToth>	 I see
[16:38:58] <ori-l>	 chrismcmahon: as a special precaution against caching bug javascript, module storage doesn't store modules that fail to load
[16:39:07] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Matthias Mullie: [C: 032] Replying to reply sends notification to the wrong target [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92678 (owner: 10Bsitu)
[16:39:14] <AzaToth>	 well, I've tried to tell people to follow the conventions :-P
[16:39:14] <hashar>	 AzaToth: ideally, gbp should prepare the local working copy and checkout the branch if they are not there.
[16:39:20] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Replying to reply sends notification to the wrong target [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92678 (owner: 10Bsitu)
[16:39:40] <ori-l>	 chrismcmahon: as a result, if you have a list of module dependencies and one of them contains a syntax error, all but the one containing the error will be cached in storage
[16:39:44] <AzaToth>	 then it would have to remake the "snapshot"
[16:39:54] <ori-l>	 chrismcmahon: so you may see it appear suspiciously by itself in subsequent requests
[16:39:58] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Legoktm: [C: 032] Add really basic API tests [extensions/Thanks] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93161 (owner: 10Addshore)
[16:40:09] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Add really basic API tests [extensions/Thanks] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93161 (owner: 10Addshore)
[16:40:24] <AzaToth>	 remember jenkins-debian-glue isn't git only, it's should also work for svn...
[16:41:05] <AzaToth>	 better to make upsteam and debian parameters
[16:41:10] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Legoktm: Split Api Module into lovely small functions [extensions/Thanks] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93316 (owner: 10Addshore)
[16:41:25] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Parent5446: "(1 comment)" [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93323 (owner: 10Mayankmadan)
[16:41:49] <chrismcmahon>	 ori-l:  I think this issue pre-dates your localStorage changes.  maybe that adds an extra layer of challenge to figuring the root cause of all these load.php calls though.  In the case of the Sauce tests though we have a fresh browser on a fresh VM and a highly targeted set of actions, so we shouldn't be seeing irrelevant stuff cached locally. 
[16:43:11] <hashar>	 AzaToth: in the case of kafka, gbp should create the local branch if they do not exist. Maybe it does so in a later version.
[16:45:08] <AzaToth>	 hashar: thats up to akosiaris 
[16:45:16] <AzaToth>	 well, I'm off to fix food
[16:45:31] <hashar>	 AzaToth: I found out gbp-pull :-)
[16:45:35] <hashar>	 seems to handle it
[16:46:45] <AzaToth>	 yea
[17:00:48] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Mayankmadan: "(1 comment)" [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93323 (owner: 10Mayankmadan)
[17:09:21] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aaron Schulz: [C: 032] Remove pointless pass-by-reference [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93479 (owner: 10Chad)
[17:12:15] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Remove pointless pass-by-reference [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93479 (owner: 10Chad)
[17:13:40] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS7) 10Mayankmadan: Add ability to show the time taken by update.php [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93323 
[17:20:04] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Anomie: API: Fix setnotificationtimestamp with no pages given [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/62229 
[17:21:51] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Anomie: API: Have action=parse indicate hidden categories [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/87187 
[17:26:35] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Njw: Switch to Linux Libertine and Linux Biolinum for body and header fonts [skins/erudite] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93501 
[17:30:15] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Njw: [C: 032 V: 032] Switch to Linux Libertine and Linux Biolinum for body and header fonts [skins/erudite] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93501 (owner: 10Njw)
[17:37:54] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10MarkTraceur: "Need to manually merge (alternatively get Jenkins running here)" [extensions/VectorBeta] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/88719 (owner: 10Raimond Spekking)
[17:38:11] <marktraceur>	 jdlrobson: ^^
[17:38:13] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aaron Schulz: [C: 032] ResourcesTest: Assert no @media is used inside 'media'-specified resources [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92762 (owner: 10Krinkle)
[17:40:34] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Aaron Schulz: Catch all stash errors in cleanup script [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93505 
[17:40:45] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS5) 10Jdlrobson: Consistency tweaks in preparation for adding extension to translatewiki.net [extensions/VectorBeta] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/88719 (owner: 10Raimond Spekking)
[17:41:25] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: ResourcesTest: Assert no @media is used inside 'media'-specified resources [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92762 (owner: 10Krinkle)
[17:42:21] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS6) 10Jdlrobson: Consistency tweaks in preparation for adding extension to translatewiki.net [extensions/VectorBeta] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/88719 (owner: 10Raimond Spekking)
[17:42:32] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jdlrobson: [C: 032 V: 032] "rebased" [extensions/VectorBeta] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/88719 (owner: 10Raimond Spekking)
[17:42:42] <jdlrobson>	 marktraceur: done
[17:43:25] <marktraceur>	 Grazie
[17:43:56] <marktraceur>	 jdlrobson: I think we'll wind up pushing it on Thursday, then to Commons on next Monday, then we'll hold there on all BetaFeatures stuff
[17:46:16] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Chad: [C: 032] Update phpunit @group annotations [extensions/Scribunto] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93072 (owner: 10Anomie)
[17:48:08] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Update phpunit @group annotations [extensions/Scribunto] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93072 (owner: 10Anomie)
[17:48:13] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Chad: [C: 032] Catch all stash errors in cleanup script [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93505 (owner: 10Aaron Schulz)
[17:51:16] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Catch all stash errors in cleanup script [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93505 (owner: 10Aaron Schulz)
[17:51:19] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Aaron Schulz: Catch all stash errors in cleanup script [core] (wmf/1.23wmf2) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93506 
[17:58:50] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Gerrit Patch Uploader: Remove namespace restriction for mention notifications [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93508 
[17:58:57] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Gerrit Patch Uploader: "This commit was uploaded using the Gerrit Patch Uploader [1]." [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93508 (owner: 10Gerrit Patch Uploader)
[17:59:47] <ebernhardson>	 what is 'Gerrit Patch Uploader' and why is it an owner instead of some user?
[17:59:55] <ebernhardson>	 s/some user/some specific user/
[18:00:39] <ugh>	 ebernhardson: http://tools.wmflabs.org/gerrit-patch-uploader/
[18:01:21] <ebernhardson>	 ugh: thanks
[18:01:45] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Anomie: "(2 comments)" [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/70749 (owner: 10Anomie)
[18:01:51] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS8) 10Anomie: Add API action=revisiondelete [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/70749 
[18:03:46] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS9) 10Anomie: Add API action=revisiondelete [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/70749 
[18:04:20] <Krenair>	 ebernhardson, it was written in the comment on the change
[18:06:04] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Anomie: [C: 04-1] "(3 comments)" [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92168 (owner: 10Legoktm)
[18:06:37] <sakysharma>	 hello all i have a small query relating to kiwix
[18:07:10] <sakysharma>	 how do 
[18:12:00] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aaron Schulz: [C: 032] Catch all stash errors in cleanup script [core] (wmf/1.23wmf2) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93506 (owner: 10Aaron Schulz)
[18:15:03] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Catch all stash errors in cleanup script [core] (wmf/1.23wmf2) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93506 (owner: 10Aaron Schulz)
[18:18:03] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Anomie: "(1 comment)" [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92928 (owner: 10Umherirrender)
[18:28:22] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aaron Schulz: [C: 032] Rename wfIsHipHop() to wfIsHHVM() [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92590 (owner: 10Chad)
[18:28:41] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aaron Schulz: [C: 032] Rename wfIsHipHop() to wfIsHHVM() [extensions/GWToolset] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92589 (owner: 10Chad)
[18:29:53] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Rename wfIsHipHop() to wfIsHHVM() [extensions/GWToolset] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92589 (owner: 10Chad)
[18:30:08] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aaron Schulz: [C: 032] Added DatabaseBase::startAtomic and endAtomic [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/90856 (owner: 10Parent5446)
[18:30:55] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS26) 10Parent5446: Added throttling framework. [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34677 
[18:31:46] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Aaron Schulz: Make autoblocks update with the parent block [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66366 (owner: 10Parent5446)
[18:32:41] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Rename wfIsHipHop() to wfIsHHVM() [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92590 (owner: 10Chad)
[18:33:50] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Matthias Mullie: (bug 56270) Fix reply form width [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93498 
[18:34:31] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Added DatabaseBase::startAtomic and endAtomic [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/90856 (owner: 10Parent5446)
[18:34:47] <marktraceur>	 ori-l: Have I told you lately that you're amazing? (re: wikitech-l announce)
[18:36:31] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aaron Schulz: [C: 04-1] "(1 comment)" [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66366 (owner: 10Parent5446)
[18:36:54] <jdlrobson>	 Krinkle|detached: spagewmf RoanKattouw_away R31
[18:42:51] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Gerrit Patch Uploader: Fatal error: Cannot use object of type EchoEvent as array at EventLogging.php [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93516 
[18:42:56] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Gerrit Patch Uploader: "This commit was uploaded using the Gerrit Patch Uploader [1]." [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93516 (owner: 10Gerrit Patch Uploader)
[18:43:15] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: [C: 032] Remove unused variable [extensions/TemplateSandbox] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93492 (owner: 10Anomie)
[18:43:17] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Remove unused variable [extensions/TemplateSandbox] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93492 (owner: 10Anomie)
[18:44:02] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Legoktm: "Needs backport to wmf2." [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93516 (owner: 10Gerrit Patch Uploader)
[18:56:16] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10CSteipp: Improve user-facing error messages [extensions/OAuth] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93121 
[18:56:23] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Improve user-facing error messages [extensions/OAuth] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93121 (owner: 10CSteipp)
[18:56:39] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10CSteipp: "(5 comments)" [extensions/OAuth] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93121 (owner: 10CSteipp)
[18:58:26] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Parent5446: [C: 031] API: Have action=parse indicate hidden categories [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/87187 (owner: 10Anomie)
[19:04:32] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Parent5446: [C: 04-1] "(1 comment)" [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93323 (owner: 10Mayankmadan)
[19:08:22] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Aaron Schulz: Wiki language cleanup [extensions/OAuth] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93520 
[19:08:49] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Wiki language cleanup [extensions/OAuth] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93520 (owner: 10Aaron Schulz)
[19:10:48] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10CSteipp: Remove redaction handling [extensions/OAuth] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93521 
[19:11:54] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10CSteipp: "Jenkins tests will fail until https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/93521/ is merged, since that is the result of https://gerrit.wikimedia.or" [extensions/OAuth] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93121 (owner: 10CSteipp)
[19:14:51] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aaron Schulz: [C: 032] "Good riddance!" [extensions/OAuth] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93521 (owner: 10CSteipp)
[19:14:58] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Remove redaction handling [extensions/OAuth] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93521 (owner: 10CSteipp)
[19:15:14] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Aaron Schulz: Wiki language cleanup [extensions/OAuth] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93520 
[19:15:23] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Aaron Schulz: Improve user-facing error messages [extensions/OAuth] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93121 (owner: 10CSteipp)
[19:19:37] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: "Thanks for the quick fix :D" [extensions/TemplateSandbox] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93494 (owner: 10Anomie)
[19:20:53] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10CSteipp: "The ability to force a password reset is fairly standard functionality (and good practice, e.g., https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Password_" [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92037 (owner: 10CSteipp)
[19:36:55] <reza_>	 Hi, can anyone help me for solving an enhansment bug?
[19:37:56] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Spage: Remove old out-of-date static templates [extensions/Agora] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93524 
[19:37:57] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Spage: Demonstrate use of oo-ui [extensions/Agora] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93525 
[19:39:07] <MatmaRex>	 !ask | reza_
[19:39:07] <wm-bot>	 reza_: Please feel free to ask your question: if anybody who knows the answer is around, they will surely reply. Don't ask for help or for attention before actually asking your question, that's just a waste of time – both yours and everybody else's. :)
[19:39:15] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS4) 10Umherirrender: API: Return set values for action=options [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92928 
[19:39:27] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Umherirrender: "(1 comment)" [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92928 (owner: 10Umherirrender)
[19:39:48] <reza_>	 ok please do pose
[19:39:57] <reza_>	 please do https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51321
[19:40:17] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Ori.livneh: Log User-Agent strings on successful authentication requests [extensions/WikimediaEvents] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93526 
[19:40:22] <ori-l>	 ^ gwicke
[19:42:04] <gwicke>	 ori-l: cool
[19:42:47] <gwicke>	 ori-l: do you know whether we have any non-JS browser stats?
[19:43:18] <ori-l>	 you mean, stats about what % of users don't have javascript? no, we don't. it's a perennial request, though.
[19:43:28] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Anomie: "(1 comment)" [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92928 (owner: 10Umherirrender)
[19:43:31] <Nikerabbit>	 good morning ori-l 
[19:43:39] <ori-l>	 hi Nikerabbit
[19:43:56] <Nikerabbit>	 ori-l: I've enabled your local storage on twn, as well as spdy support
[19:44:21] <ori-l>	 weeeee, that's awesome.
[19:44:24] <ori-l>	 how is SPDY working out?
[19:45:02] <ori-l>	 gwicke: we could log the same event client-side via JS and compare numbers
[19:46:36] <gwicke>	 ori-l: yes, that would be interesting for many architectural questions
[19:48:07] <MatmaRex>	 reza_: sorry, i got distracted. you will need soembody with deploy rights to do that
[19:48:15] <ori-l>	 gwicke: UserLoginComplete fires on API logins too, do you need that indicated via a boolean flag on the event? (we've used 'isAPI' before)
[19:48:21] <reza_>	 :(
[19:48:39] <MatmaRex>	 reza_: you might want to ask AFT's product manager, Fabrice Florin
[19:48:44] <MatmaRex>	 fflorin@wikimedia.org
[19:48:54] <MatmaRex>	 i cc-d him on the bug, but i'm not sure if he reads bugmail
[19:48:58] <Nikerabbit>	 ori-l: no complaints so far
[19:49:09] <reza_>	 thanks
[19:49:31] <Nikerabbit>	 ori-l: didn't benchmark either, but feels better
[19:49:36] <reza_>	 so should I send him an email?
[19:49:39] <gwicke>	 ori-l: we are interested in actual browsers only
[19:49:47] <MatmaRex>	 reza_: yeah, please do
[19:49:56] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Aaron Schulz: Wiki language cleanup [extensions/OAuth] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93520 
[19:49:57] <reza_>	 thanks Now I will :)
[19:50:15] <MatmaRex>	 reza_: he was actually looking for some wikis to betatest aftv5 a few weeks ago
[19:50:39] <gwicke>	 ori-l: do we have better browser detection in js btw?
[19:50:42] <reza_>	 in RTL wiki we done it
[19:50:49] <gwicke>	 user agent is not the most reliable detection method
[19:51:01] <MatmaRex>	 heh
[19:51:11] <MatmaRex>	 gwicke: are you suggesting we use feature tests to detect browsers? :P
[19:51:26] <MatmaRex>	 gwicke: that would be an interesting reversal
[19:51:29] <gwicke>	 MatmaRex: yup
[19:51:32] <MatmaRex>	 lol
[19:51:53] <gwicke>	 IE6 for example is easy to identify by its many security holes ;)
[19:52:23] <ori-l>	 MatmaRex: relying on feature tests to power the interface is different from running a feature test to assess impact of technical decisions, I think
[19:53:22] <ori-l>	 gwicke: I don't have the time to implement the actual capability checks, but if you submit a patch that constructs an object with the data-points you need I can amend it to actually log somewhere
[19:53:37] <mutante>	 gwicke: hahaa http://www.saveie6.com/
[19:53:37] <ori-l>	 I can amend the patch to make it actually log, I mean.
[19:53:52] <mutante>	 "Get IE6 ported to more platforms"
[19:54:09] <gwicke>	 ori-l: I'm not familiar with our client-side js codebase, but seem to remember some feature detection stuff in there
[19:54:58] <gwicke>	 Krinkle|detached, RoanKattouw: do you know more about this?
[19:55:02] <RoanKattouw>	 About what now?
[19:55:16] <gwicke>	 js feature / browser detection
[19:55:31] <gwicke>	 that is ideally more reliable than looking at the UA string only
[19:55:58] <ori-l>	 there's http://api.jquery.com/jQuery.support/ ; modernizr is a very commonly used solution
[19:56:06] <ori-l>	 but we try to avoid relying on either
[19:56:07] <gwicke>	 RoanKattouw: for https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56575
[19:56:18] <ori-l>	 what capability do you want to test for?
[19:57:01] <gwicke>	 ori-l: in general we just want to reliably identify a browser
[19:57:16] <gwicke>	 even if some plugin, search bar or whatever tweaks the UA
[19:58:33] <ori-l>	 gwicke: there's a bug for that, I think. there's a privacy requirement, too
[19:59:09] <gwicke>	 yeah, now that IE6 is so rare it might be possible to identify individual users that way ;)
[19:59:15] <ori-l>	 some platforms (Microsoft Media Center, I think?) log the exact version of several components, usually enough to fingerprint an individual machine.
[19:59:23] <gwicke>	 not sure if that is what you meant though
[19:59:36] <ori-l>	 https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2010/05/every-browser-unique-results-fom-panopticlick
[20:00:07] <gwicke>	 just detecting something as IE6 would avoid that issue
[20:00:28] <gwicke>	 rather than logging the UA string
[20:00:49] <ori-l>	 right, so there's a bug in bugzilla to implement something that canonicalizes UAs
[20:01:00] <ori-l>	 transforming, e.g., Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.0; Trident/4.0; SLCC1; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; Media Center PC 5.0; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR 3.0.30618)
[20:01:18] <ori-l>	 to: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.0)
[20:01:21] <ori-l>	 on the client, before logging
[20:02:12] <gwicke>	 ori-l: or even just ie8.0
[20:03:50] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Umherirrender: "(1 comment)" [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92928 (owner: 10Umherirrender)
[20:08:35] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Bsitu: Post link in notification should take users to specific post [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93583 
[20:09:32] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Bsitu: Post link in notification should take users to specific post [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93583 
[20:09:33] <jgonera>	 superm401, so you're working on porting mw.ui to LESS now?
[20:09:55] <superm401>	 jgonera, yes.  I've made some progress today.
[20:10:06] <superm401>	 I'm not working on it now-now, since I have to prep for an interview.
[20:10:20] <superm401>	 (which is today)
[20:10:22] <superm401>	 But Ill come back to it in a bit.
[20:11:17] <jgonera>	 superm401, is the latest WIP patch in gerrit? I could work on it too
[20:11:47] <superm401>	 jgonera, I'll put it up if you want, I'm not sure how dividable it is.
[20:12:18] <jgonera>	 superm401, if you can push it, I'll have a look if you don't mind
[20:13:08] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Mattflaschen: WIP - Port mediawiki.ui SASS to LESS [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93584 
[20:13:38] <ori-l>	 superm401: did you get my PM/
[20:14:44] <MatmaRex>	 gwicke: halp
[20:14:55] <MatmaRex>	 gwicke: VE is breaking encoding on all edits on fr.wp
[20:15:03] <MatmaRex>	 gwicke: https://fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tulle&curid=51555&diff=98030422&oldid=98028576 https://fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Android_KitKat&curid=6713956&diff=98030415&oldid=97990212
[20:15:20] <MatmaRex>	 gwicke: are you able to unbreak it or disable it like, now?
[20:15:30] <MatmaRex>	 (these were the latest two from RC)
[20:16:05] <gwicke>	 MatmaRex: hmmm
[20:16:30] <gwicke>	 MatmaRex: when did this start?
[20:17:00] <MatmaRex>	 (filed as https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56583 )
[20:17:08] <MatmaRex>	 gwicke: it was just reported on #-visualeditor
[20:17:22] <MatmaRex>	 by Frakir
[20:22:07] <superm401>	 jgonera, https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/93584/
[20:23:08] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Mattflaschen: WIP - Port mediawiki.ui SASS to LESS [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93584 
[20:28:30] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] WIP - Port mediawiki.ui SASS to LESS [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93584 (owner: 10Mattflaschen)
[20:30:23] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] WIP - Port mediawiki.ui SASS to LESS [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93584 (owner: 10Mattflaschen)
[20:31:35] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Legoktm: Remove namespace restriction for mention notifications [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93508 (owner: 10Gerrit Patch Uploader)
[20:31:46] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Remove namespace restriction for mention notifications [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93508 (owner: 10Gerrit Patch Uploader)
[20:32:30] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Ori.livneh: mw.inspect: add report for mw.loader.store [core] (wmf/1.23wmf2) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93587 
[20:32:55] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10MarkAHershberger: "note that libxml is usable without the XML package. So XML parsing is available, but DOMDocument is not." [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/76663 (owner: 10MarkAHershberger)
[20:36:35] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Reedy: Fatal error: Cannot use object of type EchoEvent as array at EventLogging.php [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93516 (owner: 10Gerrit Patch Uploader)
[20:36:44] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Reedy: [C: 032] Fatal error: Cannot use object of type EchoEvent as array at EventLogging.php [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93516 (owner: 10Gerrit Patch Uploader)
[20:36:53] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Fatal error: Cannot use object of type EchoEvent as array at EventLogging.php [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93516 (owner: 10Gerrit Patch Uploader)
[20:38:35] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Mattflaschen: "This is still early (I haven't actually converted any individual files to LESS). However, I've begun restructuring it by using ResourceLo" [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93584 (owner: 10Mattflaschen)
[20:46:10] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Reedy: Update Echo to master [core] (wmf/1.23wmf2) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93588 
[20:46:40] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Reedy: [C: 032 V: 032] Update Echo to master [core] (wmf/1.23wmf2) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93588 (owner: 10Reedy)
[20:53:40] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Hashar: update layout for next Zuul version [integration/zuul-config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93590 
[20:53:48] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Ori.livneh: [C: 032] mw.inspect: add report for mw.loader.store [core] (wmf/1.23wmf2) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93587 (owner: 10Ori.livneh)
[20:53:51] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Hashar: [C: 04-2] update layout for next Zuul version [integration/zuul-config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93590 (owner: 10Hashar)
[20:53:53] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] update layout for next Zuul version [integration/zuul-config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93590 (owner: 10Hashar)
[20:54:44] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Hashar: "Gooood bot caught the issue \O/" [integration/zuul-config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93590 (owner: 10Hashar)
[20:54:58] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Ori.livneh: [C: 032] mediawiki.user: Return a promise from getRights/getGroups [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/91617 (owner: 10Krinkle)
[20:56:46] <Reedy>	 MediaWiki is making promises now?
[20:56:49] <Reedy>	 Prepare to be let down
[20:57:03] <lazowik>	 :p
[20:57:20] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: mw.inspect: add report for mw.loader.store [core] (wmf/1.23wmf2) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93587 (owner: 10Ori.livneh)
[20:58:55] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: mediawiki.user: Return a promise from getRights/getGroups [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/91617 (owner: 10Krinkle)
[21:03:39] <hashar>	 so hmm
[21:03:40] <hashar>	 what time is it in SF ? :)D
[21:04:31] <MatmaRex>	 1 PM
[21:05:01] <MatmaRex>	 (i have a multi-timezone clock in my tray solely so that i know what time is it in SF.)
[21:06:19] <lazowik>	 MatmaRex: and I've got ALL the time in the world :p http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxPhHRDJ4TM
[21:21:32] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10JGonera: WIP - Port mediawiki.ui SASS to LESS [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93584 (owner: 10Mattflaschen)
[21:22:59] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] WIP - Port mediawiki.ui SASS to LESS [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93584 (owner: 10Mattflaschen)
[21:23:54] <hashar>	 MatmaRex: ahh
[21:24:00] <hashar>	 MatmaRex: I have IRC with a fallback to Wikipedia
[21:24:11] <hashar>	 that is like 90% of my smartness
[21:24:21] <hashar>	 the remainingg comes from my wife
[21:24:32] <MatmaRex>	 heh
[21:26:30] <hashar>	 she is fixing my DSL router nowadays :/
[21:29:45] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS4) 10JGonera: WIP - Port mediawiki.ui SASS to LESS [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93584 (owner: 10Mattflaschen)
[21:31:05] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] WIP - Port mediawiki.ui SASS to LESS [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93584 (owner: 10Mattflaschen)
[21:41:25] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10MarkTraceur: Support for all manner of images [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93599 
[21:41:33] <marktraceur>	 tgr, look! I made it for you.
[21:43:20] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Aaron Schulz: Include server in redis lua errors [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93603 
[21:56:00] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Gergő Tisza: [C: 032] "Tested, works." [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93599 (owner: 10MarkTraceur)
[21:56:05] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Support for all manner of images [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93599 (owner: 10MarkTraceur)
[21:56:37] <marktraceur>	 \o/ all manner
[21:57:55] <MatmaRex>	 hey marktraceur
[21:58:20] <MatmaRex>	 marktraceur: any chance of getting that a11y fix from, uh, yesterday? included in the wider deployment?
[21:58:26] <MatmaRex>	 (or is it deployed already?)
[21:58:52] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Anomie: "See discussion related to this change at http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2013-October/072669.html; details at https://www." [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/79948 (owner: 10Jdlrobson)
[21:59:19] <marktraceur>	 I think it's deployed to mw.org now
[21:59:37] <marktraceur>	 MatmaRex: We can push it out on Thursday maybe, as we go to Commons and Meta
[21:59:39] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Spage: Demonstrate use of oo-ui [extensions/Agora] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93525 
[21:59:45] <marktraceur>	 That was a BF one, right?
[21:59:57] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Mwalker: Updating CentralNotice master [core] (wmf/1.23wmf1) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93605 
[21:59:59] <MatmaRex>	 marktraceur: yeah
[22:00:03] <MatmaRex>	 (brb)
[22:00:52] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Mwalker: Updating CentralNotice to master [core] (wmf/1.23wmf2) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93606 
[22:00:53] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Mwalker: [C: 032] Updating CentralNotice master [core] (wmf/1.23wmf1) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93605 (owner: 10Mwalker)
[22:01:06] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Mwalker: [C: 032] Updating CentralNotice to master [core] (wmf/1.23wmf2) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93606 (owner: 10Mwalker)
[22:01:11] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10MaxSem: Add a function to return a single page image [extensions/PageImages] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93607 
[22:03:43] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS5) 10JGonera: WIP - Port mediawiki.ui SASS to LESS [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93584 (owner: 10Mattflaschen)
[22:07:36] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Gergő Tisza: Shorter text for license link [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93608 
[22:08:58] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS6) 10JGonera: WIP - Port mediawiki.ui SASS to LESS [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93584 (owner: 10Mattflaschen)
[22:09:43] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Updating CentralNotice master [core] (wmf/1.23wmf1) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93605 (owner: 10Mwalker)
[22:09:50] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Updating CentralNotice to master [core] (wmf/1.23wmf2) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93606 (owner: 10Mwalker)
[22:09:51] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10JGonera: "Before even testing in the log in form or other places, we have to make sure that it passes php maintenance/checkLess.php first." [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93584 (owner: 10Mattflaschen)
[22:11:02] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10JGonera: "Most of it is ported at this point. There are some mixins from Compass [1] that are used there and that we need to port from Compass itsel" [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93584 (owner: 10Mattflaschen)
[22:22:32] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Awjrichards: "(1 comment)" [extensions/WikimediaMessages] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92993 (owner: 10MaxSem)
[22:23:10] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10MarkTraceur: Add the full resolution of a file to the list of "Other resolutions:" [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/86387 (owner: 10Brian Wolff)
[22:26:05] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: "Related to bug 53017?" [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/86387 (owner: 10Brian Wolff)
[22:29:36] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Mwalker: Vector: Set media screen on styles.less [core] (wmf/1.23wmf1) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93612 
[22:31:12] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Mwalker: Vector: Set media screen on styles.less [core] (wmf/1.23wmf2) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93613 
[22:31:29] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Mwalker: [C: 032] Vector: Set media screen on styles.less [core] (wmf/1.23wmf1) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93612 (owner: 10Mwalker)
[22:31:40] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Mwalker: [C: 032] Vector: Set media screen on styles.less [core] (wmf/1.23wmf2) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93613 (owner: 10Mwalker)
[22:40:32] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Bsitu: Post reply is broken due to a mismatch of a clas name [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93614 
[23:04:32] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Bsitu: Remove Special:Flow specal page [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93615 
[23:04:37] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Reedy: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in FormatMetadata.php on line 1566 [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93616 
[23:08:42] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Restored) 10Ori.livneh: Log JSON-formatted exceptions to 'exception-json' log bucket [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/76304 (owner: 10Ori.livneh)
[23:09:10] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS13) 10Ori.livneh: Log JSON-formatted exceptions to 'exception-json' log bucket [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/76304 
[23:12:16] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Siebrand: Remove Special:Flow specal page [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93615 (owner: 10Bsitu)
[23:14:54] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Ori.livneh: mediawiki.inspect#dumpTable: fix broken FF workaround [core] (wmf/1.23wmf2) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93618 
[23:15:58] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Siebrand: [C: 04-1] "Per Arthur." [extensions/WikimediaMessages] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92993 (owner: 10MaxSem)
[23:16:04] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Ori.livneh: [C: 032] mediawiki.inspect#dumpTable: fix broken FF workaround [core] (wmf/1.23wmf2) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93618 (owner: 10Ori.livneh)
[23:18:30] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Siebrand: [C: 04-1] "(1 comment)" [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93608 (owner: 10Gergő Tisza)
[23:18:31] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10coren: [C: 032] "This seems to be well behaved with the cache. Given that it is no more expensive or complicated than {{PAGESIZE:}} is (and, indeed, facto" [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/76534 (owner: 10Umherirrender)
[23:19:04] <robla>	 qgil: TimStarling: could we lock down the time for the IRC meeting on Wednesday (US)/Thursday (AUS)?
[23:19:27] <robla>	 I just verbally confirmed with ori-l that he can reschedule the HHVM thing
[23:20:04] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: mediawiki.inspect#dumpTable: fix broken FF workaround [core] (wmf/1.23wmf2) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93618 (owner: 10Ori.livneh)
[23:20:06] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Siebrand: "Oh, a side note... I'm guidelines recommend allowing at least 200% of the width of the source string for translations... Please don't only" [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93608 (owner: 10Gergő Tisza)
[23:20:17] <TimStarling>	 quim sent me a calendar invite for it
[23:20:48] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Siebrand: "Grr for autocorrects or Freudian slips. That was supposed to be "i18n guidelines"." [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93608 (owner: 10Gergő Tisza)
[23:21:48] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Add expensive parser functions {{REVISION*:}} [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/76534 (owner: 10Umherirrender)
[23:22:10] <qgil>	 robla, TimStarling ok then you agree on http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2013-November/072819.html ?
[23:22:36] <robla>	 That's fine by me
[23:22:47] <TimStarling>	 yes, fine
[23:23:24] <qgil>	 Good, thank you. It would be good to have the RFCs confirmed as well. 
[23:24:28] <robla>	 qgil: could you start a wiki page and put what you understand the consensus is on there?
[23:24:45] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Awjrichards: "(1 comment)" [extensions/GeoData] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/88903 (owner: 10MaxSem)
[23:25:38] <qgil>	 robla, ok
[23:25:41] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10EBernhardson: "(1 comment)" [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92633 (owner: 10Matthias Mullie)
[23:25:48] <robla>	 thanks!
[23:26:17] <robla>	 from here: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Architecture_meetings
[23:27:51] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10MaxSem: Don't save secondary coordinates equal to primary one [extensions/GeoData] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/88903 
[23:28:00] <Krenair>	 Google is sending lists.wikimedia.org messages to spam again
[23:28:34] <Krenair>	 I found "[Toolserver-l] perl: https-login not possible anymore" in my gmail spam box
[23:30:18] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: (bug 56130) Icons need tooltips [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93451 (owner: 10Matthias Mullie)
[23:30:41] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Bsitu: [C: 032] (bug 56270) Fix reply form width [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93498 (owner: 10Matthias Mullie)
[23:30:51] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: (bug 56270) Fix reply form width [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93498 (owner: 10Matthias Mullie)
[23:33:49] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Werdna: Remove Special:Flow special page [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93615 (owner: 10Bsitu)
[23:35:11] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Werdna: "PS3: A bunch of other unimportant housekeeping." [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93615 (owner: 10Bsitu)
[23:38:16] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10EBernhardson: [C: 032] (bug 56335) Timestamp jumps to the left on hover [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93453 (owner: 10Matthias Mullie)
[23:38:29] <qgil>	 robla, TimStarling https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Architecture_meetings/RFC_review_2013-11-06 - I will complete and announce as soon as I get on Caltrain. Must run now.  :)
[23:38:43] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Bsitu: [C: 032] Fix editing of posts [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93485 (owner: 10Matthias Mullie)
[23:38:44] <robla>	 excellent, thanks Quim
[23:39:18] <mutante>	 how do i link to a gerrit change id correctly again?
[23:39:32] <mutante>	 didn't just  "change 12345" get linkified?
[23:41:36] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Werdna: Post reply is broken due to a mismatch of a clas name [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93614 (owner: 10Bsitu)
[23:42:32] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Werdna: [C: 032] "PS2: Changed .attr( 'data- to the more correct form .data('." [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93614 (owner: 10Bsitu)
[23:44:15] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Mattflaschen: "Yeah, it looks like the Compass license is GPL-compatible: https://github.com/chriseppstein/compass/blob/stable/LICENSE.markdown . We can" [core] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93584 (owner: 10Mattflaschen)
[23:44:45] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Werdna: [C: 032] Fix editing of posts [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93485 (owner: 10Matthias Mullie)
[23:54:45] <^d>	 Reedy: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/93622/ :p
[23:54:57] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] (bug 56335) Timestamp jumps to the left on hover [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93453 (owner: 10Matthias Mullie)
[23:57:36] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Bsitu: [C: 032] ext.echo.overlay: Only build the 'mark all as read' button if it's used [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93112 (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński)