[00:35:56] <anomie>	 Here's an interesting one: maintenance/postgres/archives/patch-rename-iwl_prefix.sql creates an index with the fields in the wrong order, and maintenance/sqlite/archives/patch-rename-iwl_prefix.sql tries to create the wrong index entirely.
[00:38:11] <Reedy>	 awesome
[00:41:16] <Reedy>	 errr
[00:49:04] <binasher>	 speaking of sql awesomeness, article_feedback does illegal things with unsigned ints that result in actual errors beyond mysql 5.1
[00:49:28] <binasher>	 does anyone kinda sorta work on that extension? wondering who i can cc: on the bugzilla ticket
[00:49:43] <chrismcmahon>	 binasher: Matthias Mullie for aftv5
[00:49:47] <AaronSchulz>	 binasher: I'm just curious, what does it do?
[00:50:27] <chrismcmahon>	 mlitn: ^^
[00:50:31] <binasher>	 AaronSchulz: set 0 = 0 + -1
[00:50:40] <binasher>	 chrismcmahon: not aftv5
[00:50:42] <binasher>	 aft
[00:51:04] <chrismcmahon>	 oh, dunno then, before my time.
[00:54:07] <binasher>	 AaronSchulz: there is a new sql_mode called NO_UNSIGNED_SUBTRACTION where "set unsigned 0 = 0 - 1" is allowed, but even then for some reason "set unsigned 0 = 0 + -1" is still a violation
[00:58:36] <binasher>	 AaronSchulz: and then there's the fact that cast(0 - 1 as UNSIGNED) = 18446744073709551615
[01:25:07] <Reedy>	 ooh, Chrome 24
[01:52:04] <preilly>	 AaronSchulz: I can't remember if I asked you this yet…. but, have you ever used http://gearman.org/ ?
[01:52:57] <AaronSchulz>	 you did, no
[01:53:16] <AaronSchulz>	 is this about wikidata?
[01:53:18] <preilly>	 AaronSchulz: can you take a look at it
[01:53:24] <preilly>	 AaronSchulz: yes wikidata
[01:54:19] <Ryan_Lane>	 hm. I wonder if we could use that for toollabs
[01:54:25] <Ryan_Lane>	 rather than sun grid engine
[01:54:59] <Ryan_Lane>	 meh, people would need to write code for it
[01:55:33] <preilly>	 Ryan_Lane: super simple code
[01:55:54] <Ryan_Lane>	 hm. maybe we could write the wrapper code for them...
[01:56:29] <preilly>	 Ryan_Lane: There is a PHP extension already for it
[01:56:54] <Reedy>	 MW used to have some files in the maintenance folder for gearman stuff
[01:57:04] <preilly>	 Ryan_Lane: and PHP could call out to Python workers
[01:57:26] * preilly  isn't a big fan of Oracle Grid Engine

[01:57:33] <Ryan_Lane>	 no. I hate grid engine
[01:57:41] <Ryan_Lane>	 it's incredible overkill for what's needed
[01:58:15] <preilly>	 Reedy: do you know when the gearman stuff was deleted from the maintenance folder?
[01:59:39] <Reedy>	 Googling finds it in numerous github clones
[01:59:39] <Reedy>	 https://github.com/flbf/mediawiki-trunk-phase3/tree/master/maintenance/gearman
[02:00:46] <preilly>	 Reedy: ha ha ha ha —> class NonScaryGearmanWorker extends Net_Gearman_Worker
[02:01:24] <Reedy>	 Most of it hadn't been touched in years
[02:04:32] <mwalker>	 \msg gwicke: still thinking about climbing today?
[02:04:40] <mwalker>	 well that works too
[02:04:43] <preilly>	 heh heh
[02:04:54] <Reedy>	 commit 8155afdcc906b22afde1857fa2cb9e0210649110
[02:04:54] <Reedy>	 Author: Sam Reed <reedy@users.mediawiki.org>
[02:04:54] <Reedy>	 Date:   Wed Feb 8 20:20:13 2012 +0000
[02:04:54] <Reedy>	     Gearman stuff hasn't been touched in 3 years
[02:05:10] <Reedy>	 svn
[02:05:13] <gwicke>	 mwalker: yes, just ran into a bug I would like to fix
[02:05:23] <preilly>	 Reedy: Okay cool thanks for the information
[02:05:27] <gwicke>	 well that works too = you are not sure whether to go?
[02:05:31] <Reedy>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?path=%2Ftrunk%2Fphase3%2Fmaintenance%2Fgearman&title=Special%3ACode%2FMediaWiki
[02:05:34] <Reedy>	 Yay for CodeReview
[02:05:35] <Reedy>	 :D
[02:05:45] <mwalker>	 gwicke: nah; I was going to pm you; but I screwed up the slash :p
[02:05:55] <mwalker>	 gwicke: just let me know whenever and we can bike over
[02:06:06] <gwicke>	 ok, hopefully 10 min at most
[02:09:21] <gwicke>	 mwalker: am packing up now, will come up to the 6th
[02:12:14] <preilly>	 Reedy: Are you running Chrome Version 24.0.1312.52?
[02:25:22] <preilly>	 TimStarling: ping
[02:25:32] <preilly>	 TimStarling: What's going on with srv222
[02:25:39] <preilly>	 TimStarling: and ulimit
[02:25:59] * preilly  — argh wrong channel please reply in sec

[07:58:14] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Stefan.petrea; "Adding new pageview reports mobile (in progress)" [analytics/wikistats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41979
[11:37:10] <siebrand>	 MaxSem: Have you got any monitoring for Solr in place?
[12:44:29] <MaxSem>	 siebrand, that was quite an adventure
[12:45:10] <MaxSem>	 Peter spent a colossal amount of time on debugging it - remind me to ask if he finally got it to detect failures as failures:)
[12:46:13] <MaxSem>	 siebrand, http://nagios.wikimedia.org/nagios/cgi-bin/status.cgi?navbarsearch=1&host=vanadium
[13:41:36] <Reedy>	 I just tired to run svn pull
[13:43:05] <^demon>	 lol.
[13:44:08] <apergos>	 sucka
[13:45:35] <sumanah>	 old habits die hard?
[13:45:45] <apergos>	 stabba stabba :-D
[13:46:34] <^demon>	 svn config alias.pull up
[13:46:46] <^demon>	 Ohwait, can't do that ;-)
[14:26:00] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Hashar; ".gitreview file" [integration/docroot] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43438
[14:26:12] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Hashar; [integration/docroot] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43438
[14:26:55] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Hashar; "import basic files from puppet" [integration/docroot] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43439
[14:27:04] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Hashar; [integration/docroot] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43439
[14:37:32] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Aude; "We can trust Matma Rex here" [integration/zuul-config] (master) C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42574
[15:22:12] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Hashar; "phplint building macro" [integration/jenkins-job-builder-config] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43443
[15:22:46] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Hashar; [integration/jenkins-job-builder-config] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43443
[15:28:15] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Hashar; "(bug 43735) phplint generic template" [integration/jenkins-job-builder-config] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43444
[15:28:44] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Hashar; [integration/jenkins-job-builder-config] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43444
[15:32:44] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Hashar; "(bug 43736) PHP lint on mw/tools/code-utils" [integration/jenkins-job-builder-config] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43446
[15:33:01] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Hashar; [integration/jenkins-job-builder-config] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43446
[15:34:03] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Hashar; "(bug 43736) PHP lint on mw/tools/code-utils" [integration/zuul-config] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43447
[15:34:43] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Hashar; [integration/zuul-config] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43447
[16:03:10] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Hashar; "grunt jshint target now a builder macro" [integration/jenkins-job-builder-config] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43453
[16:04:20] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Hashar; [integration/jenkins-job-builder-config] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43453
[16:38:05] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Hashar; "triggers for mw/ext/GettingStarted" [integration/zuul-config] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43458
[16:38:05] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Hashar; "triggers for mw/ext/PHPExcel" [integration/zuul-config] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43459
[16:38:16] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Hashar; [integration/zuul-config] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43458
[16:38:23] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Hashar; [integration/zuul-config] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43459
[16:41:57] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Hashar; "fix GettingStarted triggers" [integration/zuul-config] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43463
[16:42:07] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Hashar; [integration/zuul-config] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43463
[16:44:28] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Hashar; "makes mwext-PHPExcel-jslint voting" [integration/zuul-config] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43464
[16:44:38] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Hashar; [integration/zuul-config] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43464
[16:47:24] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Hashar; "jobs for mw/ext/GettingStarted" [integration/jenkins-job-builder-config] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43466
[16:47:24] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Hashar; "jobs for mw/ext/PHPExcel" [integration/jenkins-job-builder-config] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43467
[16:47:34] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Hashar; [integration/jenkins-job-builder-config] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43466
[16:47:42] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Hashar; [integration/jenkins-job-builder-config] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43467
[16:50:44] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Hashar; "jobs for mw/ext/Semantic*" [integration/jenkins-job-builder-config] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43468
[16:51:14] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Hashar; [integration/jenkins-job-builder-config] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43468
[16:58:37] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Hashar; "triggers for mw/ext/Semantic*" [integration/zuul-config] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43470
[16:58:53] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Hashar; [integration/zuul-config] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43470
[17:27:02] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Hashar; "Revert "triggers for mw/ext/Semantic*"" [integration/zuul-config] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43474
[17:27:34] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Hashar; [integration/zuul-config] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43474
[18:02:38] <preilly>	 What is Daniel Kinzler's nick on IRC?
[18:04:36] <preilly>	 AaronSchulz: Do you know ^^
[18:04:47] <^demon>	 DanielK_WMDE usually.
[18:04:55] <preilly>	 ^demon: Okay thanks
[18:05:02] <^demon>	 yw
[18:05:23] <preilly>	 ^demon: Do you also happen to know what channels he frequents?
[18:05:37] <^demon>	 #mediawiki, here.
[18:05:44] <^demon>	 aude: Is Daniel around today?
[18:06:33] * preilly  realizes that it's 7:06 PM Friday, January 11, 2013 (CET) Time in Berlin, Germany

[18:06:42] <^demon>	 Yeah, it is 7pm on a friday :p
[18:06:53] <preilly>	 ^demon: heh heh
[18:35:15] <qgil>	 chrismcmahon, we can talk about A pages and Echo testing event whenever you wish
[18:47:32] <Krinkle>	 Why are the REL points for extensions created as tags instead of branches?
[18:47:39] <Krinkle>	 Can't backport a fix this way.
[18:47:47] <Krinkle>	 conflict: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=mediawiki/extensions/Gadgets.git;a=summary
[18:48:48] <Krinkle>	 ^demon:
[18:49:30] <^demon>	 Krinkle: For most people, a tag is sufficient. If you'd rather use a branch, just delete the tag and create it as a REL1_nn branch.
[18:49:46] <^demon>	 Or create a branch and update the tag to point to it.
[18:49:50] <Krinkle>	 Doesn't that require additional permission?
[18:50:00] <Krinkle>	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=mediawiki/extensions/Vector.git
[18:50:01] <^demon>	 No, owners for repos have all the permissions they'd need for it.
[18:50:20] <Krinkle>	 There's a bunch now that a tag with the same name as the branch, where the branch is the "right" one
[18:50:40] <Krinkle>	 (e.g. the point that got bundled in the release and/or the point created by the maintainers of the extension)
[18:51:07] <^demon>	 We had done a branching at REL1_20 like we used to.
[18:51:11] <^demon>	 But I was swapping them to tags.
[18:51:16] <^demon>	 Thought I cleaned up the branches.
[18:51:35] <Krinkle>	 I'd rather keep the branches where they existed, they were created for a reason.
[18:51:47] <Krinkle>	 Also, github caches tags differently.
[18:51:52] <Krinkle>	 And for good reasons.
[18:51:58] <^demon>	 They were created en-mass.
[18:52:19] <Krinkle>	 as tags
[18:52:57] <^demon>	 Yeah, I did the tags yesterday.
[18:53:24] <^demon>	 Should we use branches instead, you think?
[18:53:56] <Krinkle>	 I think so, yes. They aren't bound to be fixed points, they're maintained with backports (tags would be for a release, which they aren't)
[18:54:04] <Krinkle>	 just like in core.
[18:54:19] <Krinkle>	 I don't want to convert extension tags to branch any time I get across a backport
[18:54:34] <^demon>	 Hmm, you've convinced me. I'll delete all the tags I created en-mass, and then create new branches instead (for ones that don't have it)
[18:54:35] <Krinkle>	 I just stumbled on it now by accident, noticed a name conflict in Gadgets
[18:55:39] <Krinkle>	 Hm.. looks like tags can't be added/deleted from the gerrit interface. I'll wait for you to do it, not in any rush
[18:57:26] <^demon>	 Yeah, it's easiest to do from the cli anyway.
[18:57:30] <^demon>	 Too many to waste time clicking.
[19:01:20] <aude>	 preilly: doubt daniel would be around in the evening
[19:02:05] <^demon>	 Krinkle: Grab a coffee or do a crossword puzzle. This is gonna take awhile.
[19:42:32] <preilly>	 lwelling: Are you not in #mediawiki_security
[19:44:09] <lwelling>	 preilly I am not
[19:44:29] <preilly>	 lwelling: you should join it
[19:44:47] <preilly>	 lwelling: it's our private channel for talking about important stuff
[19:45:04] <preilly>	 lwelling: can I PM?
[19:45:06] <lwelling>	 sure
[19:52:36] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Hashar; "triggers for mw/ext/Semantic*" [integration/zuul-config] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43490
[19:52:48] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Hashar; "resubmitted with https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43490" [integration/zuul-config] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43474
[20:13:35] <DanielK_WMDE>	 preilly: *poke*
[20:14:26] <DanielK_WMDE>	 preilly: want to come over to #wikimedia-wikidata?
[20:15:55] <Reedy>	 He's out for lunch
[20:18:23] <^demon>	 Krinkle: REL1_19, REL1_20 tags deleted. Creating REL1_19 branches now.
[20:19:31] <DanielK_WMDE>	 Reedy: re replied to my mail about 1 minute before i poked him here...
[20:19:40] <DanielK_WMDE>	 well, i guess he has mail on his phone, but not irc :P
[20:20:11] <DanielK_WMDE>	 well, i'll be on IRC a *bit* longer, but probably will drift off soon.
[20:31:42] <^demon>	 Krinkle: REL1_19 done, doing REL1_20 now.
[20:39:39] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Hashar; [integration/zuul-config] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43490
[20:54:38] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Hashar; "jobs for mw/ext/Vector" [integration/jenkins-job-builder-config] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43575
[20:55:52] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Hashar; [integration/jenkins-job-builder-config] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43575
[20:57:13] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Hashar; "triggers for mw/ext/Vector" [integration/zuul-config] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43576
[21:08:13] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Hashar; "jobs for mw/ext/CentralAuth" [integration/jenkins-job-builder-config] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43578
[21:08:13] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Hashar; "jobs for mw/ext/EducationProgram" [integration/jenkins-job-builder-config] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43579
[21:08:50] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Hashar; [integration/zuul-config] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43576
[21:12:01] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Hashar; [integration/jenkins-job-builder-config] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43578
[21:14:09] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Hashar; "triggers for mw/ext/CentralAuth" [integration/zuul-config] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43581
[21:14:23] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Hashar; [integration/zuul-config] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43581