[00:36:04] <DarTar>	 kaldari: can you wave at Fabrice and ask him to switch on Skype or IRC? I'm on 3 and need to ask him something
[00:36:46] <kaldari>	 I let him know
[00:36:59] <DarTar>	 thx
[00:59:21] <kaldari>	 if Title::setFragment() is deprecated, what's the correct method for adding a URL fragment to an existing Title object?
[09:53:55] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Hashar; "check-voter pipeline, lint with verify+1" [integration/zuul-config] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37198
[09:53:55] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Hashar; "check-voter for ops/puppet (v+1 on lint success)" [integration/zuul-config] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37199
[09:54:38] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Hashar; [integration/zuul-config] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37199
[09:54:38] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Hashar; [integration/zuul-config] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37198
[10:06:44] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Hashar; "enable reporting on mediawiki/core.git" [integration/zuul-config] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37200
[10:07:03] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Hashar; [integration/zuul-config] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37200
[10:57:48] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Hashar; "Get rid of the old InjectExtensions.php" [integration/jenkins] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37204
[10:58:11] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Hashar; [integration/jenkins] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37204
[11:08:44] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Hashar; "jobs for mw/ext/Wikibase" [integration/jenkins-job-builder-config] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37205
[11:08:58] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Hashar; [integration/jenkins-job-builder-config] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37205
[11:11:33] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Hashar; "add Wikibase mw extension" [integration/zuul-config] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37207
[11:11:48] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Hashar; [integration/zuul-config] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37207
[17:49:48] <hashar>	 AaronSchulz: hello :)
[17:50:02] <hashar>	 AaronSchulz: ends up my patch to the TranslateNotificationJob is not going to work :(((
[17:51:35] <Platonides>	 hello hashar
[17:53:06] <Platonides>	 I guess SanitizerTests are passing in jenkins...
[17:53:28] <hashar>	 Platonides: they should
[17:53:42] <Platonides>	 well, some of them fail locally
[17:54:33] <Platonides>	 merged 19 Nov: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17793
[17:55:05] <hashar>	 might be due to some setting in your local install
[17:55:14] <hashar>	 or some global not being properly applied in the test
[17:57:10] <Platonides>	 Sanitizer.php seems to properly check for the three globals
[18:02:14] <dub_>	 hi, i'm working on mediawiki+openldap configuration, i download LdapAuthentication but this plugin have a bug with postgresql, and i make a patch to fix, how to i submit the patch to resolv the problem? (sorry for my english)
[18:04:49] <Platonides>	 no problem, dub_
[18:05:03] <Platonides>	 you can provide it on http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/
[18:05:24] <Platonides>	 alternatively, you could get an account on our git server (gerrit) and submit it there
[18:06:14] <Platonides>	 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_access
[18:06:46] <dub_>	 Platonides, excelent, when i have a any little free time i submit the patch, thanks!
[18:07:15] <Platonides>	 you are welcome!
[18:32:10] <Platonides>	 hashar, where is code-utils now?
[18:32:55] <hashar>	 Platonides: mediawiki/tools/code-utils ?
[18:33:20] <Platonides>	 I don't have that folder
[18:33:36] <Platonides>	 I may need to check which repos I miss
[18:33:59] <Platonides>	 I can use the clone-all.php script which lives in code-util :)
[18:34:05] <hashar>	 Platonides: indeed  https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/project:mediawiki/tools/code-utils,n,z
[18:34:25] <hashar>	 there is no jenkins job on this repo yet though
[19:24:00] <blobaugh>	 Is this the room for questions from the live streamed meeting?
[19:43:11] <DanielK_WMDE>	 blobaugh: i think that would be #wikimedia-office
[19:44:41] <blobaugh>	 DanielK_WMDE: got it. thanks
[19:45:17] * hexmode  waves at blobaugh 

[19:45:18] <hexmode>	 :)
[19:47:21] <blobaugh>	 hey hexmode!
[20:31:15] <zeljkof>	 there is no brown bag meeting today?
[20:32:44] <kaldari>	 metrics meeting is still going on
[20:33:20] <zeljkof>	 kaldari: thanks, so it is canceled? or just delayed?
[20:33:26] <kaldari>	 not sure
[20:42:19] <sumanah>	 I believe the weekly tech chat is NOT happening today. Next week instead
[20:42:48] * DanielK_WMDE  waves at sumanah

[20:43:02] <sumanah>	 hi there DanielK_WMDE
[20:43:23] <sumanah>	 DanielK_WMDE: http://ur1.ca/argdk for the notes just now from the monthly metrics meeting at WMF
[20:43:28] <sumanah>	 how are you and your family doing DanielK_WMDE?
[20:46:54] <DanielK_WMDE>	 sumanah: the christmad madness is taking a grip :) other than that, pretty good, actually.
[20:47:31] <DanielK_WMDE>	 sumanah: wikidata is quite exciting. chad is currently setting up or first client wiki (just test2 for the moment, but still: the cross wiki change propagation code is going live)
[20:48:40] <sumanah>	 aw yeah
[21:06:44] <kaldari>	 chrismcmahonbrb: ping me when you're back
[21:06:54] <chrismcmahonbrb>	 hi kaldari
[21:07:23] <chrismcmahon>	 I've been back, forgot to change my nick
[21:09:14] <kaldari>	 as you've probably heard, the h3 bug was reported on several wikis since yesterday and is still persisting for a few people. I've deployed the new UW code, but I'm reluctant to turn it on until I know what's causing the 42452 problem.
[21:10:37] <chrismcmahon>	 understood
[21:10:43] <chrismcmahon>	 saw your comment on the bug
[21:10:46] <kaldari>	 a least until the new JS has had a few days to sit
[21:11:06] <chrismcmahon>	 thanks for the heads up
[21:13:40] <kaldari>	 chrismcmahon: I pinged Ops, but haven't heard anything from them. The next step would be to work on actually identifying a server that is serving outdated CSS/JS, but I don't have the bandwidth to work on this.
[21:14:10] <lwelling1>	 Hi Kaldari, got a minute for an Echo question?
[21:14:15] <kaldari>	 sure
[21:15:23] <lwelling1>	 What is the easiest way to trigger my dev install to send me an email notification?
[21:16:17] <multichill>	 kaldari: How do you detect an outdated server?
[21:16:24] <kaldari>	 well, there isn't really a super easy way, but one way is to leave a message on your talk page with another account
[21:16:40] <lwelling1>	 I have a plain install, and I get verify your email mails so I know email works, but I'm either not findng a preference for enabling notifications or I;m not runngn the job queue or something
[21:16:48] <multichill>	 Just wondering if you could make a nagios check for that ;-)
[21:17:35] <lwelling1>	 I have been trying by logging out and editing my own talk page
[21:17:45] <multichill>	 If the Nagios check is getting new messages it's looking at an old server
[21:18:45] <kaldari>	 multichill: I don't know any automated way to do it. I was thinking, deploy some dummy CSS/JS, check what is getting served from various servers (you can see which servers are sending the content from the HTTP headers) and hope to find one that is misbehaving.
[21:19:35] <kaldari>	 lwelling1: yes, you have to run your local job queue to get the emails...
[21:20:09] <multichill>	 kaldari: Something else, do we have a manual somewhere about the job queue?
[21:20:09] <lwelling1>	 manually triggering runJobs.php is not good enough?
[21:20:33] <kaldari>	 no, that should work
[21:20:53] <kaldari>	 multichill: not sure, if we do, please let me know so I can read it :)
[21:21:41] <multichill>	 Hmm, found it, for some reason I missed it earlier this week
[21:21:48] <multichill>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Job_queue
[21:22:19] <kaldari>	 thanks
[21:23:06] <kaldari>	 lwelling1: You can also try disabling Echo and see if you get emails from talk page messages normally.
[21:23:47] <lwelling1>	 OK, thanks I'll try that and see if I can trace it back
[21:25:04] <kaldari>	 lwelling1: In that case you'll need to make sure that 'E-mail me when my user talk page is changed' is on in your prefs, but I believe that is the default.
[21:25:45] <kaldari>	 and I assume you've actually verified your email address
[21:26:11] <lwelling1>	 yes the verify email is the only one I've gotten so far
[21:36:54] <lwelling1>	 Thanks kaldari, I don't know waht was broken, but doign it all again slowly with a fresh user makes it work
[21:37:11] <kaldari>	 yay
[23:01:01] <awjr>	 ori-l: are you guys still deploying?
[23:01:46] <awjr>	 spagewmf: ^
[23:02:17] <spagewmf>	 oh yes
[23:02:34] <spagewmf>	 Are you Adrian?
[23:02:51] <awjr>	 spagewmf: ok - can you let me know when you guys are done? i have a MobileFrontend bugfix i need to push out
[23:02:54] <awjr>	 spagewmf: nope, arthur :)
[23:05:13] <ori-l>	 awjr: you can go ahead
[23:05:20] <awjr>	 ori-l: thanks :)
[23:05:23] <ori-l>	 we're not done but we need a little bit before we're ready for the next sync
[23:05:45] <ori-l>	 ^ awjr
[23:06:02] <awjr>	 ori-l ok sounds good, this should be relatively quick
[23:06:11] <spagewmf>	 our deployment window is 1pm-3.... am, right? :-)
[23:08:10] <ori-l>	 1pm PST to 3pm UTC (+1)
[23:18:40] <Reedy>	 57 PHP Warning:  Division by zero in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.21wmf5/extensions/ParserFunctions/Expr.php on line 429
[23:18:42] <Reedy>	 That one is annoying me
[23:32:48] <ori-l>	 Reedy: that's bizarre
[23:33:31] <Reedy>	 yup
[23:33:33] <ori-l>	 Reedy: array()
[23:33:47] <Reedy>	 ori-l: null
[23:34:01] <ori-l>	 Reedy: null == 0
[23:34:11] <ori-l>	 array() != 0
[23:34:14] <ori-l>	 so it can slip past the guard
[23:34:41] <Reedy>	 i'm not sure if those values can actually make it there
[23:35:15] <Reedy>	 exprtTests.txt should allow it to be tested
[23:36:48] <Reedy>	 We don't track the sources of warnings in our logs
[23:36:53] <Reedy>	 which makes attempting to debug a PitA
[23:40:03] <Reedy>	 using either array() or null gives the warning
[23:41:47] <Reedy>	 So just sticking || is_array( $right )...
[23:42:12] <ori-l>	 i'd go with if ( (integer) $right === 0 )
[23:46:52] <Reedy>	 I think we get it on / too, so adding it there for luls
[23:46:58] <marktraceur>	 spagewmf: Having Gerrit trouble? :)
[23:47:17] <spagewmf>	 y u spy on me :)
[23:47:42] <Reedy>	 ori-l: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/37341/ thankyouplease
[23:48:11] <marktraceur>	 spagewmf: "spy" !== "paying attention in #mediawiki"
[23:48:17] <spagewmf>	 marktraceur, it seems if the patch author has comments on someone else's review, the only way to publish them is to click [Review].
[23:48:31] <ori-l>	 Reedy: === 0 on 415 would be cleaner, tho the net result is the same
[23:48:38] <marktraceur>	 spagewmf: I've often thought that it would be useful to have one-click "publish comments" button
[23:48:44] <Reedy>	 Bah
[23:48:47] <Reedy>	 Thought I'd added it
[23:48:53] <ori-l>	 in one place, but not the other
[23:49:00] <Reedy>	 yup
[23:50:47] <ori-l>	 +2'd
[23:51:36] <Reedy>	 thanks