[00:02:59] <chrismcmahon>	 kaldari: I have no idea.  I'll ask hashar when I see him next though.
[00:03:22] <kaldari>	 You replied 2 seconds after I sent you an email :)
[00:03:55] <kaldari>	 Guess I'll email hashar
[00:04:16] <kaldari>	 what's his email?
[00:05:42] <chrismcmahon>	 kaldari: what I don't know about beta labs right now fills a large room, that is changing slowly
[00:06:03] <kaldari>	 heh, you and me both
[15:31:40] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Qgil; "Fix typo in 'uploader_account_id'." [analytics/gerrit-stats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28367
[15:59:39] * MaxSem  looks around

[16:13:31] <Reedy>	 http://etherpad.wmflabs.org/pad/p/WikiaAPI
[16:14:00] <marktraceur>	 Reedy: You use the new instance! :D
[16:14:09] <Reedy>	 Sumanas idea!
[16:20:13] <marktraceur>	 That sumana, always coming up with cool ideas.
[17:17:15] <shepazu>	 I asked about this in #mediawiki yesterday… but… for WebPlatform.org, we really want to display SVGs (not rasterized) in the browser in articles, in an iframe. Any ideas on how we could make an extension to do this? Ideally, we'd use the same wiki syntax as with raster images like PNGs… [[File:myfile.svg]]
[17:20:02] <^demon>	 You'd have to register your own media handler for svg files. I'm not sure if we support overriding a core media handler with an extension though.
[17:20:05] <^demon>	 AaronSchulz: Thoughts?
[17:21:07] <^demon>	 Or brion, perhaps.
[17:21:27] <shepazu>	 ^demon: I'm not going to get too caught up in an ideal solution if it's complicated… if you can tell me out to register our own media handler, that will be good enough for now
[17:21:30] <Reedy>	 Do  we not have a way to do that?
[17:21:33] <brion>	 ^demon: pretty sure an extension can override
[17:21:43] <AaronSchulz>	 one can use $wgMediaHandlers
[17:21:43] <Reedy>	 I'm sure I've seen it somewhere...
[17:21:48] <brion>	 like… PagedTiffHandler overrides default bitmap one i think
[17:21:59] <^demon>	 *nod* Wasn't sure.
[17:22:05] <Reedy>	 $wgMediaHandlers['image/tiff'] = 'PagedTiffHandler';
[17:23:20] <brion>	 basically you'd override the rendering methods and return a custom thumbnail type that does the <img> or <iframe> or <object> or whatever
[17:23:39] <shepazu>	 that sounds doable
[17:23:45] <shepazu>	 I'll look at PagedTiffHandler
[17:23:54] <shepazu>	 thanks!
[17:23:59] <^demon>	 Subclassing SvgHandler would probably be a good idea, so you don't have to reinvent the whole Svg wheel.
[17:24:00] <brion>	 good luck!
[17:24:03] <^demon>	 Just the parts you want to change.
[17:24:08] <brion>	 *nod*
[17:24:09] <shepazu>	 I'll keep you posted
[17:24:15] <brion>	 awesome
[17:24:37] <shepazu>	 another part of this will be stripping out SVGs that have <script> elements
[17:24:42] <shepazu>	 when they are uploaded
[17:24:52] <shepazu>	 any tips there?
[17:26:22] <^demon>	 We already do sanity checking on Svg's on upload for stuff like <script>, right?
[17:26:31] <shepazu>	 I misstated.. stripping out script elements from uploaded SVG, is what I mean
[17:26:37] <shepazu>	 oh, that would be great
[17:30:25] <Reedy>	 csteipp_afk did some work on that recently...
[17:40:09] <shepazu>	 ah, Hallo Welt! did PagedTiffHandler… great! They helped us with WebPlatform.org
[17:40:51] <Reedy>	 They're responsible for quite a few bits and pieces here and tehre
[17:40:57] <shepazu>	 great guys
[17:41:53] <kaldari>	 hey chrismcmahon...
[17:42:16] <chrismcmahon>	 hi kaldari
[17:42:34] <kaldari>	 since I can neither make anonymous edits nor create a new account on beta, can you do something for me on http://en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org?
[17:43:12] <chrismcmahon>	 kaldari: looking
[17:43:35] <kaldari>	 I just turned on Echo and need to see if it's working. Can you leave a message for me on http://en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/User_talk:Kaldari ?
[17:44:02] <kaldari>	 so I can see if it creates a notification
[17:46:45] <chrismcmahon>	 kaldari:  msg. left
[17:46:53] <kaldari>	 Thanks!
[17:46:59] <chrismcmahon>	 kaldari: I have a pristine account I can give you if you want
[17:47:14] <kaldari>	 cool
[17:47:27] <kaldari>	 that would be useful
[17:55:49] <chrismcmahon>	 kaldari: you should have acct info in a PM, and I made https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41121  (because I don't know how to fix it).  let me know if anything else comes up.
[17:56:14] <kaldari>	 thanks!
[18:00:27] <shepazu>	 error in downloading PagedTiffHandler   http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:ExtensionDistributor?extdist_extension=PagedTiffHandler&extdist_version=branches%2FREL1_19&extdist_submit=Continue
[18:29:05] <sumanah>	 awjr: hey, sorry to bug you
[18:29:09] <awjr>	 hello
[18:29:12] <awjr>	 what's up?
[18:29:19] <sumanah>	 awjr: Bug 41091 - Images loading in dynamic sections even when images disabled - is that happening against git master?
[18:29:32] <sumanah>	 awjr: I ask because I am checking for deployment blockers and I'm not sure whether that is
[18:30:08] <awjr>	 it is and it should not be a blocker; it's in the beta version of the mobile site which is expected to have small issues like that
[18:30:32] <sumanah>	 okay, thanks. would you mind updating the metadata? I may get it wrong
[18:30:49] <awjr>	 metadata? where?
[18:32:07] <sumanah>	 I thought the Version field would have an appropriate value, guess I am wrong
[18:32:21] <awjr>	 oh i see
[18:32:34] <awjr>	 sumanah: i did put 'mobilefrontend (beta)' as the component
[18:32:41] <awjr>	 and am answering your q in the bug
[18:32:43] <sumanah>	 I misunderstood that, awjr
[18:32:55] <sumanah>	 sorry for the bother
[18:33:02] <awjr>	 it's ok, the MobileFrontend (beta) is not a widely-known thing :)
[18:33:06] <awjr>	 nope, no bother
[18:33:22] <sumanah>	 yeah.... I must admit it was new to me to have "beta" in the component name rather than the Version
[19:03:41] <spagewmf>	 Krinkle, I'm using JS mw.msg with a PLURAL code and in 1.21wmf1  I just see the raw msg text "Passwords must be at least {{PLURAL:1|1 character|1 characters}}."  This was working at one point, did anything change?
[19:06:12] <spagewmf>	 Krinkle, I'm loading JS early, I'll try depending explicitly on mw.language module
[19:06:26] <Krinkle>	 mw.msg = mw.message( .. ).plain()
[19:06:40] <Krinkle>	 you'll want to load mediawiki.jqueryMsg and use .parse()
[19:06:42] <Krinkle>	 spagewmf:
[19:06:54] <Krinkle>	 mw.language dependency is not needed
[19:07:08] <Krinkle>	 depend on mediawiki.jqueryMsg instead as that does the plural parsing
[19:07:16] <Krinkle>	 by default the plain mw.msg in mediawiki/core only does $1 replacement, no other parsing takes place
[19:07:30] <Krinkle>	 the actual (optional) parser is provided by mediawiki.jqueryMsg
[19:07:45] <Krinkle>	 mediawiki.jqueryMsg overloads mw.message with a .parse() method
[19:19:55] <spagewmf>	 Krinkle++.  I will update http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/I18n#Message_documentation .
[19:21:06] <spagewmf>	 Is there a way to test msg parsing?   mw.msg( 'I love {{PLURAL:1|dog|dogs}}', 1 ) doesn't work.  I guess I could add my test message to some Messages Map, but I bet there's an easier way.
[19:22:48] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Hashar; "update Wikibase configuration" [integration/jenkins] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28397
[19:28:53] <Ryan_Lane>	 sumanah: http://upstream-university.org/
[19:29:04] <csteipp>	 shepazu: Yep, we strip out <script> tags, on-event handlers, and a lot of css...
[19:29:28] <Ryan_Lane>	 sumanah: I'm in a talk at the openstack conference, which is discussing that
[19:29:37] <Ryan_Lane>	 we were used as an example of a contributor having a hard time :D
[19:29:58] <Ryan_Lane>	 to be fair, he also used openstack as an example of a contributor having a hard time, too
[19:31:36] <Ryan_Lane>	 holy shit this is expensive
[19:31:44] <multichill>	 Any Nicira talks there Ryan_Lane? ;-)
[19:31:50] <Ryan_Lane>	 multichill: yeah
[19:33:50] <multichill>	 Went to a talk of one of their founders last week and I had a meeting with their former CEO today. It's all VMware now :P
[19:35:40] <multichill>	 Ryan_Lane: They did some pretty cool stuff
[19:35:59] <Ryan_Lane>	 heh
[19:35:59] <Ryan_Lane>	 yeah
[19:36:26] <Ryan_Lane>	 they have openflow and openvswitch
[19:38:57] <multichill>	 Yes, I would love to have more time to play around with those ;-)
[19:43:34] <Krinkle>	 spagewmf: no, that isn't related to that
[19:43:41] <Krinkle>	 mw.msg( 'I love {{PLURAL:1|dog|dogs}}', 1 )  doesn't work
[19:43:46] <Krinkle>	 and it isn't supposed to
[19:44:05] <Krinkle>	 it basically like expecting alert( 'I love {{PLURAL:1|dog|dogs}}') to parse it
[19:44:07] <Krinkle>	 it doens't.
[19:44:15] <Krinkle>	 mw.msg is for message.plain()
[19:44:28] <Krinkle>	 if you need to parse it use a Message object instead and call .parse
[19:44:42] <Krinkle>	 and yes, it does have to be in the registry because mw.msg takes a message key, not a string.
[19:44:56] <Krinkle>	 mw.messages.set( 'key', 'message value')
[19:45:02] <Krinkle>	 mw.msg will return the message value
[19:45:12] <Krinkle>	 (with $N replaces)
[19:45:24] <Krinkle>	 like mw.msg('key')
[19:45:32] <Krinkle>	 mw.message('key', ..).parse() will parse it with PLURAL etc.
[20:22:43] <marktraceur>	 ^demon: You scoundrel, is Gerrit down?
[20:23:05] <^demon>	 Was just restarting.
[20:23:11] <^demon>	 Was about to !log it in the SAL
[20:29:02] <shepazu>	 csteipp: is that done by default?
[20:29:45] <csteipp>	 shepazu: If you enable svg uploads (which is not on by default) then the blacklist is run against all uploads
[20:30:13] <shepazu>	 csteipp: ok, great to hear
[20:30:35] <shepazu>	 csteipp: and in case I want to modify that, possibly to allow SVG-script uploads, is it possible to change that via an extension?
[20:31:09] <shepazu>	 (we've already enabled .svg as an upload type)
[20:31:25] <csteipp>	 shepazu: Iirc, there was an option to skip some the script checking in svgs...
[20:31:39] <csteipp>	 but that may have just been antivirus filtering...
[20:31:56] <shepazu>	 csteipp: sorry to bug you, but is the script actually stripped out, or is the SVG just blocked from being uploaded
[20:32:01] <shepazu>	 ?
[20:32:35] <csteipp>	 Oh, the file is blocked actually
[20:32:49] <csteipp>	 And $wgDisableUploadScriptChecks can be set to disable the checks
[20:33:31] <csteipp>	 I was working on a version that actually just took out the scripts, but we had to be careful about how we mucked with copyrighted images
[20:34:48] <csteipp>	 Actually, if you're interested, I can convert it to an extension and you can install it, if that's what you're after.
[21:14:05] <shepazu>	 csteipp: sorry, I was afk...
[21:14:18] <shepazu>	 yeah, if you are willing to put that in an extension, that would be great!
[21:14:37] <shepazu>	 I will probably extend the extension to allow SVG to be used inline in articles
[21:14:47] <csteipp>	 shepazu: I might do that... It won't be this week, but maybe this weekend
[21:16:32] <shepazu>	 csteipp: that would be awesome!
[21:46:54] <DarTar>	 tewwy: thanks, you should add WMF as the organization for the board under Options > Settings
[23:06:57] <marktraceur>	 andre__: Can we welcome you to San Francisco? :)
[23:07:10] <andre__>	 marktraceur, yes
[23:07:18] <marktraceur>	 Yay! Welcome to San Francisco!
[23:07:24] <andre__>	 hehe
[23:07:26] <andre__>	 I'm in the office
[23:07:57] <marktraceur>	 Sadly, huge tracts of the 3rd floor engineers are at Wikia. But we send our love!
[23:08:21] <andre__>	 that explains the emptyness
[23:08:55] <marktraceur>	 *nod*
[23:09:59] <Nemo_bis>	 andre__: are you cc'ed on any bugzilla change now?
[23:10:13] <Nemo_bis>	 do you receive more emails than wikibugs or less? :)
[23:32:29] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Siebrand; "Add job for PageTriage extension" [integration/jenkins] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26963
[23:32:45] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Siebrand; "Add job for unit testing Echo extension" [integration/jenkins] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26960
[23:32:48] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Siebrand; "Add job for testing DataValues extension" [integration/jenkins] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26959
[23:32:58] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Siebrand; "Add job for PagedTiffHandler extension" [integration/jenkins] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26961
[23:33:05] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Siebrand; "Add job for EducationProgram extension" [integration/jenkins] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26962
[23:38:42] <andre__>	 Nemo_bis: I should receive all bug report changes as I'm subscribed to wikibugs :)
[23:38:56] <andre__>	 just need to check my mail as I've been offline for the last 24 hours...
[23:45:13] <marktraceur>	 drecodeam: Howdy!
[23:45:22] <marktraceur>	 kaldari: Look, a drecodeam!
[23:45:40] <drecodeam>	 heylo marktraceur !
[23:54:52] <kaldari>	 howdy!
[23:56:24] <drecodeam>	 Hey kaldari, How is it going ?
[23:56:44] <kaldari>	 good, slow going on the web proxy issue :(
[23:57:23] <drecodeam>	 kaldari: that's fine, I have been also away for a long time.
[23:58:15] <drecodeam>	 a lot of work has been just lying to get completed, so I am starting to work on that