[00:33:16] BTW it seems returning nothing in getDescription, getParamDescription, & getExamples hides an API pretty well, enough to discourage use. [00:38:03] what's the difference between $wgAPIModules and $wgAPIMetaModules et al? How does MW know the top-level module with which an API or Prop module is associated? What is "generator" mode? [00:38:23] I never MetaModule I didn't like [00:43:34] spagewmf: APIModules is for action=foo modules, MetaModules is action=query&meta=, similar for prop and list [00:43:48] The top-level module for meta/list/prop is also action=query [00:44:01] Generator mode is kind of like UNIX piping where the output of one module is the input of another [00:44:31] See https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&generator=allpages&gaplimit=5&prop=images&imlimit=10 [00:54:00] Roan thanks, action seems all I need. I added a bad explanation of generator to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Extensions , but it's still thin and the individual $wgXxxModule pages are identical. [00:54:48] BTW that sample URL you gave me output . Coincidence ? ;-) [00:55:12] I know, someone's actually filed a bug about that [00:55:24] Most example URLs for allpages turn up that page [00:55:59] Of course we closed it as WONTFIX, the code looks like, if you object to "!!!Fuck_You!!!" being in the first 10 pages sorted alphabetically, complain to the enwiki people :) [01:28:12] Roan, added explanation to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Extensions , though maybe generator is already explained better elsewhere [03:17:20] Hello!! Does anybody know how to write html (and javascript) code to a wikipage forma a parser function? I can only write wikitext... [14:12:12] New patchset: Stefan.petrea; "filter works ok for *.planet.wikimedia.org , blog.wikimedia.org and wikimediafoundation.org Forked filter2.c from filter.c(only for first review and easy comparison between filter.c and filter2.c)" [analytics/webstatscollector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24544 [14:19:23] New patchset: Stefan.petrea; "filter works ok for *.planet.wikimedia.org , blog.wikimedia.org and wikimediafoundation.org" [analytics/webstatscollector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24487 [14:27:32] Change abandoned: Stefan.petrea; "trying to figure this out" [analytics/webstatscollector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24487 [14:28:11] Change restored: Stefan.petrea; "restored" [analytics/webstatscollector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24487 [14:28:24] Change abandoned: Stefan.petrea; "trying to figure this out" [analytics/webstatscollector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24544 [14:29:03] New patchset: Stefan.petrea; "filter works ok for *.planet.wikimedia.org , blog.wikimedia.org and wikimediafoundation.org" [analytics/webstatscollector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24487 [14:37:39] New patchset: Stefan.petrea; "filter works ok for *.planet.wikimedia.org , blog.wikimedia.org and wikimediafoundation.org" [analytics/webstatscollector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24487 [14:40:06] ^demon: around for a mediawiki-config.git review please ? ;-) [14:40:18] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/24525/ [14:40:20] or anyone around [14:40:25] with some knowledge about bits [14:43:46] <^demon> It looks ok, but I don't know enough about bits really [14:45:19] New patchset: Stefan.petrea; "filter works ok for *.planet.wikimedia.org , blog.wikimedia.org and wikimediafoundation.org" [analytics/webstatscollector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24487 [14:47:39] I need Reedy :-) [14:47:51] ^demon: thanks for the attempt at least :-] [14:48:22] <^demon> yw :) [14:52:06] New patchset: Stefan.petrea; "filter works ok for *.planet.wikimedia.org , blog.wikimedia.org and wikimediafoundation.org" [analytics/webstatscollector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24487 [14:57:03] Change abandoned: Stefan.petrea; "(no reason)" [analytics/webstatscollector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24487 [15:20:04] New patchset: Stefan.petrea; "fixed new domains *.planet.wikimedia.org , wikimediafoundation.org , blog.wikimedia.org" [analytics/webstatscollector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24551 [16:38:32] see you later folks [17:51:25] tewwy: Could I prod you to perhaps request me an RT account? :) [17:52:00] tewwy: marktraceur mentioned he needed an RT account, and I am happy to create one for him, but I would be more comfortable with a manager request for access =] [17:52:18] So either you or him can ping me with the RT# when you ahve it made and I will get him setup for ya [17:56:15] RobH: Give me a sec [17:56:45] no worries (or hurry, i just dont like telling folks to file an RT ticket without letting them know i'll actually do something ;) [17:57:15] Woot, activity [17:58:39] RobH: It does make my life easier to know who to cc: when I make the request ;-) [18:00:52] RobH: https://rt.wikimedia.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=3581 [18:01:03] see you on the flip side (heading in to the office) [18:52:51] thedj: thanks for talking with the maps-related folks on en.wp about the HTML5 changes [19:00:22] sumanah: perhaps it's something to bring up with the ambassedors.... [19:00:34] since these templates are deployed on almost all wikis... [19:00:54] thedj: are you on the wikitech-ambassadors list? [19:02:02] no. not yet. [19:04:56] thedj: it is pretty low-traffic. If I were to spread the word on Ambassadors what ought I say? [19:05:22] we mentioned it: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-ambassadors/2012-September/000059.html [19:08:05] lemme prep something real quic [19:14:29] sumanah: http://pastebin.ca/2206443 [19:14:44] have to fly now. good nite ! [19:14:46] night! [19:16:39] thedj: sent. [19:33:58] I wonder what the effect on editor engagement is when new users go to edit their talk page and "Welcome to Meta" has inserted
[19:41:25] New patchset: Hashar; "basic README for the new comers" [integration/jenkins-job-builder] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24580 [19:41:33] spagewmf: sadly, many editors are really attached to the idea that templates have to be substituted for performance reasons [19:41:34] bahh [19:41:54] Change abandoned: Hashar; "wrong repo :-)" [integration/jenkins-job-builder] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24580 [19:42:13] Nemo_bis: is there a "myth: FACT:" debunking of that, to link to? [19:42:51] sumanah: [[w:en:WP:PERF]]? [19:43:02] but nothing can affect the subst religion [19:43:35] perhaps a bunch of paedophilia scandals involving subst advocates, dunno [19:49:30] Nemo_bis is there an explanation for what that comment is doing? Also there's one too many closing divs in the welcome. I guess if LiquidThreads were on all talk pages and/or we had VE this übergeek templated HTML wouldn't matter, but right now it surely tells new editors that wiki syntax is a confusing mess. [19:53:38] spagewmf: that's quite a simple template actually [19:54:04] LOL ! [19:54:12] cf. what Commons used to have (I think) [19:54:35] also, I think Meta's welcome template used to subst itslef in a few dozens languages [19:59:06] spagewmf: https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Nemo_bis/Archive/2007-2010&action=edit§ion=1 [20:00:18] Speaking of templates, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Template:Git_file makes links to gerrit/gitweb. I added a |line=42 parameter, and the thing blew up on me. [[Category:help wanted]] :-) [20:01:09] 42! [20:02:11] MediaWiki has no "how to debug templates" [20:02:52] spagewmf: there are Meta help pages [20:03:07] with all the most obscure edge cases you would never hear of [20:03:15] *never want to [20:03:16] Nemo_bis OK. And Google found http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Advanced_template_coding [20:03:22] naaah [20:03:32] believe me, Meta help pages are on another level [20:03:43] so thoroughly obscure [20:06:55] the template community is one I'd like to understand better [20:11:40] Gaah, https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help_talk:Template#Why_does_this_manual_exist_here_and_not_at_MediaWiki.org.3F [20:24:38] sumanah, perhaps fixing {{git file}} could be an episode of CSI:Templates , where "Curly" Brace and his multi-racial sidekick Semicolon together with nerdy Pipe at the lab solve the senseless violence of {{#if:{{{line|}}}|#l{{{line}}}}} [20:28:45] Maybe I should switch to Scribuntu & Lua. Coming soon, CSI:Lua , where an interchangeable set of actors solve the same problems in a Hawaiian setting. [20:51:23] spagewmf++ :-) [22:13:40] Nemo_bis , I figured it out, "MediaWiki wiki-formats the clauses inside #if" from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Advanced_template_coding . So # and ; in URLs would sometimes start numbered list and
, even though they're not at the start of a line. Crazy!