[00:45:31] Change merged: Ori.livneh; [analytics/E3Analysis] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/19958 [01:02:48] why do piped links in edit summaries work on en.wiki, but not on my local wiki? [01:02:53] is there some config var for that? [01:05:11] Reedy: ^ [01:07:35] WFM locally.. [01:07:47] weird [01:08:09] I couldn't find anything in the config docs [01:10:47] I think it's because I don't have the right namespaces set up [01:17:25] yep, that fixed it [07:07:55] TimStarling: did you see my query about how supply rules the rules to JS? [16:54:09] Platonides: ping [16:54:41] wb sumanah [16:54:59] Thanks Nemo_bis! And thank you for keeping up on the requests page for extension review, and for adding to it [16:55:15] sumanah: I did so little... I hope you're not disappointed [16:55:38] sadly there wasn't much response to your previous pings on bugs and I didn't know what to do [16:56:37] https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Review_queue&action=history does not seem like very little :-) I am not disappointed in you, I am grateful [16:58:02] ok [16:58:34] sumanah: Welcome back! (?) [16:59:05] Thank you marktraceur! Yes, I feel welcomed and I am back :D [16:59:51] Nemo_bis: yeah, sometimes one simply waits and pings bugs again a month later, and then again, and then pings people individually on email, and then onlist..... [16:59:53] :/ [17:00:24] sumanah: I think the bug for interwiki could be closed [17:00:39] per siebrand, it's not going to happen [17:01:30] huh? [17:01:56] * siebrand goes back to sleep again. [17:02:28] siebrand: I mean https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15607#c98 [17:02:43] yeah, sorry for pinging [17:03:04] Nemo_bis: np. Your assessment is correct in my view. [17:03:53] siebrand: if you're asleep, then go back to sleep. Nemo_bis - go ahead & copy and paste this conversation into a comment on the bug, close as wontfix, and remove the item from the extensions review queue wiki page :) [17:04:12] sumanah: Nah, Im not alsleep. Just trying to start the weakend. [17:04:54] OK [17:04:58] hello sumanah [17:05:03] Hi guillom [17:05:06] sumanah: a propos, wb. [17:05:15] Thank you siebrand [17:05:42] sumanah: I'm about to sign off, but since you just came back and it'll be difficult to reach me next week, I can spare a few minutes now if you want. [17:06:23] guillom: I don't have anything useful to say right now so I don't want to waste your time. I hope next week goes ok for you. Thanks for that email about deployment communications et al. [17:06:42] ok [17:30:37] * marktraceur draws a long breath [17:30:44] Love the smell of flame war in the morning [17:31:28] ROTFLOL [17:31:52] however, I doubt napalm is enough for a wiki flame to be extinguished [17:31:55] I prefer Napalm [18:30:37] bsitu: jdlrobson_ gwicke - have a moment to talk about 20% time? [18:31:33] sumanah: hello [18:33:12] bsitu: do you already have your Friday filled up, or would you like suggestions? [18:34:07] sumanaha: yeah, code review on aft5, pagetriage and probably uploadwizard [18:35:04] bsitu: got it - yeah, the code review backlog seems like a big thing to hit. I know the analytics folks are working on stats to help us see exactly how large a prob it is.... [18:42:56] bsitu: If you code review uploadwizard I will be soooo happy [18:46:03] marktraceur: I am not familiar with uploadwizard, I may bug you if I have questions, :) [18:47:51] bsitu: That would be awesome! :) [18:51:43] sumanah: pong [18:51:59] hey there gwicke - how is North America treating you? :) [18:52:13] it has been great so far ;) [18:52:37] a lot of work again, but that is no surprise [18:52:37] sumanah: we try to keep him disoriented [18:52:42] HA [18:52:46] i periodically go and spin him in his chair [18:52:51] wb, btw :) [18:52:52] * sumanah chuckles [18:53:13] gwicke: do you already have your 20% day filled with TODOs, or perhaps you would like suggestions? [18:53:16] thanks ori-l :) [18:54:09] sumanah: since we are on a really tight schedule intil December we likely won't be doing much 20% time in the next months [18:54:37] gwicke: ah, I hadn't known that, I thought the deadline madness had passed at that demo several weeks back [18:54:54] For the VE team, yes [18:54:58] Now it's Parsoid's turn :) [18:55:05] we are supposed to go live on arbitrary articles in December [18:55:12] I should explain in a bit more detail [18:55:26] at least that would be great [18:55:40] sumanah, could you try to give https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38606 to someone ? [18:55:42] It doesn't seem hard, but I strongly want that fixed before end of the month :P [18:55:56] For the June milestone, the major oh-crap-this-is-actually-really-hard-and-complex parts were on the editor side, so we on the VE team were working our butts off [18:56:09] sumanah: that mostly depends on Parsoid [18:56:32] the VE team can always go "oh, we just don't offer editing for this or that".. [18:56:42] For the December milestone, it's reversed. It's not like VE doesn't have work to do, but support for certain things in Parsoid is the #1 thing that's gonna make or break the whole thing [18:56:49] while we have to rt everything by then [18:57:53] So of course we've been begging to get more resources on Parsoid, but we don't have a hire for it I don't believe, so we're stealing bits of a couple of random people's time, but most of the time it's just two people and they have a mountain of work to do [18:58:18] porting Parsoid to C++ for example.. [18:58:36] RoanKattouw: Three, counting me! [18:58:37] That's about all I know, others (Terry, Gabriel, Trevor) would be able to clarify specifics [18:58:44] marktraceur: Are you on this full-time now? [18:58:53] RoanKattouw: I'm in sort of a sliding transition [18:58:57] Ah OK [18:59:03] Yeah I noticed you were still doing EtherEditor stuff [18:59:11] *nod* that needs to get done [18:59:13] Rigth [18:59:14] * marktraceur gets back to it [18:59:17] But after that it's all Parsoid? [18:59:23] * gwicke hopes to have him full-time next month [18:59:51] RoanKattouw: In theory! [18:59:56] Awesome! [18:59:58] * RoanKattouw does happy dance [18:59:59] RoanKattouw: could I ask you to turn that into prose & email it to wikitext-l? [19:00:10] I've said it before, 20% time is when you actually do your proper job [19:00:50] RoanKattouw: or, maybe I should email Trevor/Gabriel/Terry [19:00:53] for the deets [19:00:58] sumanah: While I think that is a good idea, I don't think I'd be the right person to do it. Depending on which parts you were referring to, Gabriel or Trevor should write it cause I'm just parroting them [19:01:07] Thanks for reading my mind :) [19:01:48] sumanah: I'll try to write a status update mail soonish [19:02:04] RoanKattouw: it's always my pleasure [19:02:59] gwicke: sure, or https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Parsoid#Monthly_high-level_status_summary is another good place to put it, and then link on wikitext-l [19:04:11] sumanah: in theory writing up that stuff is James' job, but he is on vacation afaik [19:04:15] oh [19:04:32] I'll write a technical update though [19:04:56] Thanks! [19:05:49] gwicke: He's back on Monday [19:06:19] RoanKattouw: ok, will bug him about it [19:06:24] He's in Europe for pretty much just the weekend, as you do [19:06:30] thanks all [19:30:45] Reedy: who would be good to try to get to fix https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38606 ? Platonides has requested a fix [19:31:49] Also Reedy & gwicke & Platonides please feel free to comment on the open requests for Gerrit project ownership: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Gerrit_project_ownership [21:43:11] Ah christ, what's wrong with the list arrchives now [21:44:25] everyone's wondering [21:45:00] just in their moment of glory, the usually neglected archives have all their hair and everything messed up [21:46:45] And anyway, it looks like the private information which started the issue might not have been deleted? [22:08:09] marktraceur: O_o [22:08:23] It's most likely not deleted elsewhere [22:11:00] Nemo_bis: *shrug* I don't know what's happening with the archives anymore [22:11:13] marktraceur: they're being rebuilt now [22:11:20] And history shall remember this day as Archivepocalypse [22:11:53] worth creating an entry on Meta-Wiki [22:12:32] Oh absolutely [22:13:30] let's wait for it to be over, to avoid recentism